55% of British male university students admit to being incel

[eduardkoopman]

Even Chad would have better outcomes in a social circle environment vs cold approach.

Better quality in social circle. I agree. Deffo mogger way for finding best quality LTR

More AMOUNT, I doubt.
because more factors come into play, which may limit his amount. So social circle may not make him able to slay.
1. some soccial circls have limited new inflow. So there is a limited amount of women basically.
2. one may not want the male slut label of the social circle, where you are the guy that porked alot of the woman in the circle. makes it awakward potentially, and so on..

Soical circles can be a bit to slow. For slay maxxing.

A social circle is constantly vetted. Hence, less competition.

that's a plus point.

The biggest hindrance with social circle is, basically the amount fo women.
If there is like 10 women in a social circle. Even sleeping with 5 of them in the next 3 years, makes it odd probably.

Social circle is great though.
1. for quality, and good macthing
2. for normies, HTN and even Chadlites men, to hit above their leuague a bit.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Fuck. Over for me then.

How good looking are you atm?
Waht is your top potential softmaxxing + gymmaxxing wise??

 

[eduardkoopman]

Social circle is probably the most practical way to meet women, but the advantage of cold approach is that you cannot "poison the well". I know some of my normie friends met their GFs through cold approach. You cannot ask out every girl is a social circle. If the first 2-3 reject you, the rest will reject you out of principle.

This is the legit limitation point of social circle, and wanting slaying.
1. not enough women in there
2. Poison the well, when go for or with to many fo the womens in that group

 

[thereallegend]

Better quality in social circle. I agree. Deffo mogger way for finding best quality LTR

More AMOUNT, I doubt.
because more factors come into play, which may limit his amount. So social circle may not make him able to slay.
1. some soccial circls have limited new inflow. So there is a limited amount of women basically.
2. one may not want the male slut label of the social circle, where you are the guy that porked alot of the woman in the circle. makes it awakward potentially, and so on..

Soical circles can be a bit to slow. For slay maxxing.


that's a plus point.

The biggest hindrance with social circle is, basically the amount fo women.
If there is like 10 women in a social circle. Even sleeping with 5 of them in the next 3 years, makes it odd probably.

Social circle is great though.
1. for quality, and good macthing
2. for normies, HTN and even Chadlites men, to hit above their leuague a bit.

For slaymaxxing, you need to:

1) Be Chad
2) Have online dating

Why online dating over cold approach?

You don't have to be physically present to interact with women. Matches happen as long as your profile is up. Hence, the increased stream of opportunity.

 

[mulattomaxxer]

This is the legit limitation point of social circle, and wanting slaying.
1. not enough women in there
2. Poison the well, when go for or with to many fo the womens in that group

Yeah as I grow older I feel that cold approach is the best way. Although its incredibly daunting just going up at group of strangers in an attempt to slay one of them. I feel that its achievable during "night game" but "day game" cold approach sounds like fucking insanity. Idk its possible if you chad but I have never heard of anyone doing this irl. I have never seen anyone do this irl either.

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

Completely agree. However, I'm surprised your normie friends actually had a successful cold approach. I wonder how much failure and rejection they went through to get that.

I know people that spent a year cold approaching - 100+ night outs. 1 chadlite, 1 Mid-tier normie and 1 low tier normie. The chadlite and mid tier normie pulled about 2 girls each I think (the full distance). No stacies... they were all low tier beckies. The low tier normie didn't pull.

 

[eduardkoopman]

For slaymaxxing, you need to:

1) Be Chad
2) Have online dating

Why online dating over cold approach?

You don't have to be physically present to interact with women. Matches happen as long as your profile is up. Hence, the increased stream of opportunity.

Yeah. Online dating also works for Chad, to get dates and sex
BUT, cold appraoching. Will also work for Chad to get dates and sex. I wasn't saying it's the best or most efficient or whatever way. I just said it's A way for chad also

I added that. BECAUSE, You said: "cold approaching doesn't work". Which is imo incorrect, because it works for Chads. Asin he will get dates and sex with it.

Works, is not teh same as most effocient and convenient way. Just taht it gets some results/outcomes.

Probably. Cold approaching is the BEST aif NOT the only way for High tiern normies and Chadlites to slay. Because they probably not good looking enough to pull slaying on Tinder. And Social circle is to slow, for Slaying.
So they probably best off, adding talking with randos in daily life and at social locations

 

[Deleted member 7725]

I know people that spent a year cold approaching - 100+ night outs. 1 chadlite, 1 Mid-tier normie and 1 low tier normie. The chadlite and mid tier normie pulled about 2 girls each I think (the full distance). No stacies... they were all low tier beckies. The low tier normie didn't pull.

The question is who do girls go home with from clubs? Do they just go home by themselves?

 

[chadison]

Fuck. Over for me then.

PSL system does not include height and body, which greatly affect SMV

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

The question is who do girls go home with from clubs? Do they just go home by themselves?

Nah, they are in groups. The girls within the groups cockblock most attempts, that's the problem. You got to consider logistics with the club. Overall, it's probably not much better than TInder.

 

[thereallegend]

I know people that spent a year cold approaching - 100+ night outs. 1 chadlite, 1 Mid-tier normie and 1 low tier normie. The chadlite and mid tier normie pulled about 2 girls each I think (the full distance). No stacies... they were all low tier beckies. The low tier normie didn't pull

Evidence speaks for itself. Cold approach isn't worth the investment. Thx 4 sharing

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Nah, they are in groups. The girls within the groups cockblock most attempts, that's the problem. You got to consider logistics with the club. Overall, it's probably not much better than TInder.

Only reason I think club is better because height/body halo. On Tinder only thing that matters is face.

 

[thereallegend]

Yeah. Online dating also works for Chad, to get dates and sex
BUT, cold appraoching. Will also work for Chad to get dates and sex. I wasn't saying it's the best or most efficient or whatever way. I just said it's A way for chad also

I added that. BECAUSE, You said: "cold approaching doesn't work". Which is imo incorrect, because it works for Chads. Asin he will get dates and sex with it.

Works, is not teh same as most effocient and convenient way. Just taht it gets some results/outcomes.

Probably. Cold approaching is the BEST aif NOT the only way for High tiern normies and Chadlites to slay. Because they probably not good looking enough to pull slaying on Tinder. And Social circle is to slow, for Slaying.
So they probably best off, adding talking with randos in daily life and at social locations

My hot take is that reliable pussy is the better route for any sub 8 guy. Slaying is an unattainable dream. If a HTN or Chad-Lite tries to slay, they'd probably end up having a dry spell. The most a 6 or 7 (decile) can get is a rotation of 2-3 women MAX.

 

[Crustaciouse_]

Nah, they are in groups. The girls within the groups cockblock most attempts, that's the problem. You got to consider logistics with the club. Overall, it's probably not much better than TInder.

The cockblocking is brutal in clubs and bars.
Besides girls doing it because men are ugly, the main problem is Girls will legit dissuad their girl friend from having sex with a guy because they are jealous, "wtf why is Chad choosing Becky instead of me??? I better ruin this assholes night"

 

[chadison]

My hot take is that reliable pussy is the better route for any sub 8 guy. Slaying is an unattainable dream. If a HTN or Chad-Lite tries to slay, they'd probably end up having a dry spell. The most a 6 or 7 (decile) can get is a rotation of 2-3 women MAX.

100% agree

 

[Deleted member 7725]

My hot take is that reliable pussy is the better route for any sub 8 guy. Slaying is an unattainable dream. If a HTN or Chad-Lite tries to slay, they'd probably end up having a dry spell. The most a 6 or 7 (decile) can get is a rotation of 2-3 women MAX.

Slaying is much more attainable with status than looksmaxxing for vast majority of people. Problem is you can get #MeToo'd with status and people will believe them. No one will believe a girl's accusations if you look like this:

 

[chadison]

The cockblocking is brutal in clubs and bars.
Besides girls doing it because men are ugly, the main problem is Girls will legit dissuad their girl friend from having sex with a guy because they are jealous, "wtf why is Chad choosing Becky instead of me??? I better ruin this assholes night"

Fuck my keyboard glitched and now the joke is ruined. I was gonna say

who are you, oh young greycel, who speaks the wisdom of the gods?

 

[eduardkoopman]

Yeah as I grow older I feel that cold approach is the best way.

personally, I start to feel this more and more also.
BUT, that's BECAUSE of my looks level. If i was Chad, or sub 5; THAN cold approaching is not the best idea. For Chad, because he can easily score on Tinder and insta, so why do this annoying and not fun thing of talking with randoms. And for sub 5's it sucks, because of the giga high rejection rate and plenty disgust he will get.

As a High tier normie or Chadlite. that's probably the limited looks window. that talking with randoms actaully makes sense. if a dude doesn't want dating to be so slow as it is for most men. With dry spells, before the next LTR heppens.

Although its incredibly daunting just going up at group of strangers in an attempt to slay one of them.
I feel that its achievable during "night game" but "day game" cold approach sounds like fucking insanity. Idk its possible if you chad but I have never heard of anyone doing this irl. I have never seen anyone do this irl either.

I have between 500-1000 randoms chatups in muh history, mainly daytime because iam not and never was a night time person. Muh introverted persona, enjoys more quit-ish environement than the stilumus maxxed nightlife environments.
But it's form a long time ago. Pre Tinder times, 10 years ago.

I dunno how it it would be now.
I look better now, than before. Before I was 50 percentile range imo. Now I am looks wise 75-80 percentile range imo. But times have changed also, so it may be different because of that also.
I shoudl give it a try, go. Just to see what changed, in10 years time. for the fun and interest of it.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Slaying is much more attainable with status than looksmaxxing for vast majority of people. Problem is you can get #MeToo'd with status and people will believe them. No one will believe a girl's accusations if you look like this:

View attachment 1217656

Men, Status Maxx, so they can lay/slay more.
than nowadays; one can't use status because it's Abuse of power position to slay/lay becuse of status.

But that's the main reason for men, to aim for status maxxing.
LOL, The paradox.
Luckily only a few Statusmxxed dudes get metooéd from using status to slaymaxx. the rest can jsut use the status to help with gettung more bedroom funs.

LMAO, lol.
At these high status guys going all soyboy, cry baby on TV, when thet use their status to lay some womens.

what a pussies, these dudes

 

[Crustaciouse_]

Fuck my keyboard glitched and now the joke is ruined. I was gonna say

who are you, oh young greycel, who speaks the wisdom of the gods?

Long time OG .co user. The blackpil has replaced my cerebral cortex st this point

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

More people will gain extrospection and realise looks are their biggest bottleneck to finding a foid. Then, the competition is going to get worse and worse. We have already seen all the blackpilled looksmax memes circulating around TikTok. The self-improvement meme is already mainstream but it's going to get way, way worse. The men of the future will be like Fisherian peacocks. Everyone is going to be wearing makeup, everyone is going to be soft-maxxed and surgery will rise exponentially in the hopes of attracting a foid. It's going to be sexual selection on steroids.

Everyone here should be putting on their war helmets because if they think shit's bad now, wait until they see things 5-10yrs down the line.

even then I think most men are just way too autistic to effectively apply all the knowledge

foids brutally mog men when it comes nuance and looks are all about nuance

men wear 4 inch elevator shoes while foids come up with 'no makeup' make up looks, no chance

 

[thecel]

But also most girls i know are virgins too so it seems both sexes in general are not getting any

When the coping is too strong!

 

[SadLivwr]

Not many, being born in the UK is a reciepe for norwooding, obesity and recessed faces.

is there an explanation as to why UK males look uglier on average?

 

[Crustaciouse_]

is there an explanation as to why UK males look uglier on average?

Probably due to the diet they had for hundreds of years.
Britbongs where eating mainly grain in shit like porridge and other stuff, that's why they got giga mogged by Scandinavians who had a better diet with fat that they got from hunting whales.
Similar to how the average Mongolian soldier looked like a giant compared to the average Chinese soldier. The mongols ate cheese, yogurt, and meat. While the Chinese mainly ate rice and grains

 

[ugly-but-optimistic]

hey sorry im late, just got done getting a BJ

so what's the tl;dr summary on this thread ?

 

[ugly-but-optimistic]

Why online dating over cold approach?

You don't have to be physically present to interact with women. Matches happen as long as your profile is up. Hence, the increased stream of opportunity.

said like a true aspie

bro online dating is so fucken done. stick a fork in it

the barriers to entry are so low every horny dickhead in the galaxy is on there

but cold approach, however ....................

 

[Deleted member 9890]

Better quality in social circle. I agree. Deffo mogger way for finding best quality LTR

More AMOUNT, I doubt.
because more factors come into play, which may limit his amount. So social circle may not make him able to slay.
1. some soccial circls have limited new inflow. So there is a limited amount of women basically.
2. one may not want the male slut label of the social circle, where you are the guy that porked alot of the woman in the circle. makes it awakward potentially, and so on..

Soical circles can be a bit to slow. For slay maxxing.


that's a plus point.

The biggest hindrance with social circle is, basically the amount fo women.
If there is like 10 women in a social circle. Even sleeping with 5 of them in the next 3 years, makes it odd probably.

Social circle is great though.
1. for quality, and good macthing
2. for normies, HTN and even Chadlites men, to hit above their leuague a bit.

Socialcirclemaxxing =/= staying in one small social circle only

It means being part of multiple groups who are very socially active.

This way there is constantly new people coming in through various circles

This is absolutely the way to slay in uni

Too bad when i went i did PUA on campus like a retard

 

[Deleted member 9890]

said like a true aspie

bro online dating is so fucken done. stick a fork in it

the barriers to entry are so low every horny dickhead in the galaxy is on there

but cold approach, however ....................

Take good pics and fraud until you get matches

And if youre on tinder, its pay to play.

You nees gold + boosts. Its worth it to pay 20 bucks a month over doing cold approach every week or something. Saves time and money

 

[ugly-but-optimistic]

Take good pics and fraud until you get matches

And if youre on tinder, its pay to play.

You nees gold + boosts. Its worth it to pay 20 bucks a month over doing cold approach every week or something. Saves time and money

photofraud isnt an option. because eventually (hopefully?) you actually meet her in person (unless aspie like 99% of the guys on this forum)

if you look good irl and are motivated, a few hours of approach each week is enough to have a healthy social (sex) life

 

[eduardkoopman]

How can you believe this lie? 100% of women is sexually active

Tbh.
Women have better waiting and abstinence capacity, than most men.
I know when whom are: "top 15% guy only". And when they have periods when they can't get top 15% guy. They will not have sex, and furthest they go in that time is trying to get attention from other dudes whom they blue ball, and maybe at weak moments a make out / kiss session. That's it.

 

[gamma]

Tbh.
Women have better waiting and abstinence capacity, than most men.
I know when whom are: "top 15% guy only". And when they have periods when they can't get top 15% guy. They will not have sex, and furthest they go in that time is trying to get attention from other dudes whom they blue ball, and maybe at weak moments a make out / kiss session. That's it.

Majority of girls, that are at least 4 psl and slim can have ONS with chads and chadlites, so what's the point of abstinence?

 

[eduardkoopman]

Socialcirclemaxxing =/= staying in one small social circle only

It means being part of multiple groups who are very socially active.

This way there is constantly new people coming in through various circles

This is absolutely the way to slay in uni

Too bad when i went i did PUA on campus like a retard

I get your drift.
Some social circles are slow, some are having high turn over.

I recall.
My current MMA social circle sport club, slow turn over.
The meditation social circle, very high turn over, many women also.

 

[Crustaciouse_]

I get your drift.
Some social circles are slow, some are having high turn over.

I recall.
My current MMA social circle sport club, slow turn over.
The meditation social circle, very high turn over, many women also.

Wtf is a meditation social circle?
Is that like a class or something

 

[Deleted member 6128]

yes in my school 8 out of the 70 boys probably have had sex


But also most girls i know are virgins too so it seems both sexes in general are not getting any

Ye men and women are having less sex it’s due to porn and the Jews putting estrogen in our water

 

[BeenLMSsinceMSN]

Holy shit it's completely over.
We all know damn well that alot of men still lie about having sex, so the real statistic is probably 65-70% of UK Male students being oinkwel.
Plus those 11% claiming volcel are coping hard. I bet if a Becky was oppenly offering sex, even the most devout Muslim would coom.
The western man is officially more sexless than a Saudi street urchin

Anyone here want to dispute that the UK is the incel capital of Europe?

We have hypergamy that rivals the Mediterranean.
Got the most obnoxious and entitled foids.
The ugliest women on average
The worst looks disparity. Most of us are a walking Chernobyl experiment and then there is a minority of gigachads like Tyler Maher that take all the women

Someone tell me it's not over. It's only getting worse and worse with each passing year. This island is a terrible place to be... really terrible.

You guys need to GTFO of the UK honestly. I was just abroad for a year with university and I’m back here for one more year but after that I am out . Seriously there’s soo many better places other just learn some other language so you can see what’s out there.

now I’m back I can literally see how subhuman these UK girls are

 

[eduardkoopman]

Wtf is a meditation social circle?
Is that like a class or something

I was in a Buddhist group in the past.
And they also had, open meditation 1x per week, for like 1 or 2 hours. And introduction to meditation for first time people that came. And after the meditation, people that wanted could sit in circle to talk or ask questions or wahetver. Plus before and after tin the meeting cantine people say to have drink together and talk.

it was quit popular. among women to do, I recall. because plenty are stress maxxed, and wanna relax or something.

 

[lasthope]

I was in a Buddhist group in the past.
And they also had, open meditation 1x per week, for like 1 or 2 hours. And introduction to meditation for first time people that came. And after the meditation, people that wanted could sit in circle to talk or ask questions or wahetver. Plus before and after tin the meeting cantine people say to have drink together and talk.

it was quit popular. among women to do, I recall. because plenty are stress maxxed, and wanna relax or something.

is it a good way to slay?

 

[eduardkoopman]

is it a good way to slay?

it's a pretty good type of social circle, for dating type of purpose.
you gotta be able than to, to endure:
* 90+% are lefties
* orange man bad
* alot of spirituality copers/hopers
* moralfags in talkings at least
* in zen meditation alot of introverts I think to recall
* in more hippy like meditation stuff, more if not mostly extraverted people

 

[JamesHowlett]

Not many, being born in the UK is a reciepe for norwooding, obesity and recessed faces.

Eh? I’m born in U.K. and have none of these

 

[ugly-but-optimistic]

I was in a Buddhist group in the past.
And they also had, open meditation 1x per week, for like 1 or 2 hours. And introduction to meditation for first time people that came. And after the meditation, people that wanted could sit in circle to talk or ask questions or wahetver. Plus before and after tin the meeting cantine people say to have drink together and talk.

it was quit popular. among women to do, I recall. because plenty are stress maxxed, and wanna relax or something.

is that representative ?

those chicks are all fat af bro

 

[eduardkoopman]

is that representative ?

depends on location/city

those chicks are all fat af bro

as far as i recall in those groups. it's an average representation of what people looks like in that city..

 

[eduardkoopman]

but "day game" cold approach sounds like fucking insanity. . I have never seen anyone do this irl either.

this below example is kinda the best case scenario with randoms approaching, a man can expect and get. When he is quit good looking. Like solid Chadlite levels. like 2/5 good, and 3/5 are shit or flake number.

More than half will still be: rejections, objections, shit convos and falky numbers.
But the remaining 30% orso can be pretty good convo's and probably some dates.

it's brutals process, MOST of the time.
damn, the same opening line he use all the time. I thnk he might be bailing to soon on the 2 women that he vibed wll with and they had free time (if he has free time also). Than it's cool to join them for a drink.

 

[ugly-but-optimistic]

this below example is kinda the best case scenario with randoms approaching, a man can expect and get. When he is quit good looking. Like solid Chadlite levels. like 2/5 good, and 3/5 are shit or flake number.

More than half will still be: rejections, objections, shit convos and falky numbers.
But the remaining 30% orso can be pretty good convo's and probably some dates.

it's brutals process, MOST of the time.
damn, the same opening line he use all the time. I thnk he might be bailing to soon on the 2 women that he vibed wll with and they had free time (if he has free time also). Than it's cool to join them for a drink.

yeah this PUA shit is retarded. they do the run around circle, then say " i just had to say youre the most beautiful girl ...... "

but at best they make too many dumb jokes and entertain the girl a lot. what does the girls subconcious think ?

probably ' clown ' rather than ' this guy seems normal but like he could get shit done '

it would feel fake and is demoralising because its like a production line

my game is v different and based on reality

- excuse me, thats a great hat, where did you get it ?
- hey your top is nice, i was gonna get one for my sister
- do you know if they have organic fakecheese made of soyabeans here ?
- ive read that book ! it stinks. what do you think of it ?

etcetcetc. just talk like i dunno, she is a human and you are too

any questions, class ?

 

[eduardkoopman]

yeah this PUA shit is retarded. they do the run around circle, then say " i just had to say youre the most beautiful girl ...... "

but at best they make too many dumb jokes and entertain the girl a lot. what does the girls subconcious think ?

probably ' clown ' rather than ' this guy seems normal but like he could get shit done '

it would feel fake and is demoralising because its like a production line

my game is v different and based on reality

- excuse me, thats a great hat, where did you get it ?
- hey your top is nice, i was gonna get one for my sister
- do you know if they have organic fakecheese made of soyabeans here ?
- ive read that book ! it stinks. what do you think of it ?

etcetcetc. just talk like i dunno, she is a human and you are too

any questions, class ?

I agree, it's better to strike up a convo, like you said. As in, it's less akward and less high pressure on every one.
Than after saying something, one can see if a woman is into it (akak YOU) or not.

MOST, important though. More important than convo starting way. Is to look good.

If a woman repsonds well, a dude striking up a random convo, should also steer the convo towards something more. Since the goal ultimately is not, to just be social. The social is just for meeting more women, and than filtering out the ones that have interest in you from get go.

 

[MiroslavBulldosex]

Absolutely brutal.

 

[Deleted member 9890]

photofraud isnt an option. because eventually (hopefully?) you actually meet her in person (unless aspie like 99% of the guys on this forum)

if you look good irl and are motivated, a few hours of approach each week is enough to have a healthy social (sex) life

Not giga frauding, but just looking looking good in your photos, and maybe smoothing your skin and adding a little pop to your eyes in facetune

 

[MiroslavBulldosex]

"University students aren't having sex" jfl, I hate how those journo fags phrase it.
It's not students not having sex, it's MEN having to endure inceldom.

 

[MiroslavBulldosex]

Copefest in the comments

 

[ugly-but-optimistic]

Copefest in the comments
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lolol those comments gotta be trollin

 

[thereallegend]

this below example is kinda the best case scenario with randoms approaching, a man can expect and get. When he is quit good looking. Like solid Chadlite levels. like 2/5 good, and 3/5 are shit or flake number.

More than half will still be: rejections, objections, shit convos and falky numbers.
But the remaining 30% orso can be pretty good convo's and probably some dates.

it's brutals process, MOST of the time.
damn, the same opening line he use all the time. I thnk he might be bailing to soon on the 2 women that he vibed wll with and they had free time (if he has free time also). Than it's cool to join them for a drink.

I'm disappointed that we have longtime users like you peddling PUA nonsense on a supposedly blackpill site. Even for the Chad-Lite, cold approach is still a waste of time.