6’3 18 How can i ascend?

[notagreytrust]

Any advice will be considered and appreciated

 

[i cant lie cant lie]

Nice angularity

I'd say the problem is the lips. They are small

 

[notagreytrust]

bump

 

[notagreytrust]

Nice angularity

I'd say the problem is the lips. They are small

i agree any advice on that?

 

[notagreytrust]

Nice angularity

I'd say the problem is the lips. They are small

specifically upper lip

 

[i cant lie cant lie]

i agree any advice on that?

I'm not sure if they 100% work, but try Vaseline and wear it all the time. Additionally, use volufiline.


If these dont work you may get a lip lift/filler/fat graft

 

[i cant lie cant lie]

specifically upper lip

Both are somewhat narrow

 

[notagreytrust]

I'm not sure if they 100% work, but try Vaseline and wear it all the time. Additionally, use volufiline.


If these dont work you may get a lip lift/filler/fat graft

vaseline won’t do shit volufuline might but idk if it’s permanent

 

[v.3ex]

no reason to ascend you can get bitches bro

 

[notagreytrust]

no reason to ascend you can get bitches bro

how should i go abt that then and also its never enough

 

[i cant lie cant lie]

no reason to ascend you can get bitches bro

No need to ascend is misleading


you can always be better... get more bitches, etc.

 

[v.3ex]

how should i go abt that then and also its never enough

work on game, and yes it’s not enough but it’s sufficient

 

[v.3ex]

No need to ascend is misleading


you can always be better... get more bitches, etc.

already sufficient enough to get bitches, he doesn’t need anymore, what’s even the point

 

[cometohaunted]

No need to ascend is misleading


you can always be better... get more bitches, etc.

I don't rlly agree w this, he already has the capacity to get bitches. If you're not an incel or not an incel but still struggling then yeah you have a necessity to ascend. But this guy clearly looks good enough to get girls pretty easily, also is obviously at his genetic peak.

Only facial augmentations he could do would be surgery

 

[12thdisciple]

You dont have to, get off the forum bro

 

[cometohaunted]

Any advice will be considered and appreciated

You look insanely good already, if you want to improve things you could go into surgery which just isn't worth it when you already look like a slayer

 

[cometohaunted]

You dont have to, get off the forum bro

Literally

 

[notagreytrust]

I don't rlly agree w this, he already has the capacity to get bitches. If you're not an incel or not an incel but still struggling then yeah you have a necessity to ascend. But this guy clearly looks good enough to get girls pretty easily, also is obviously at his genetic peak.

Only facial augmentations he could do would be surgery

i’m definitely not an incel but i do struggle ngl Ive never had a real gf i mean mostly by choice cuz i didn’t want to date down but like i don’t see girls on a weekly basis and do feel kinda lonely no roster or anything but i should

 

[i cant lie cant lie]

I don't rlly agree w this, he already has the capacity to get bitches. If you're not an incel or not an incel but still struggling then yeah you have a necessity to ascend. But this guy clearly looks good enough to get girls pretty easily, also is obviously at his genetic peak.

Only facial augmentations he could do would be surgery

He could get a better mouth. That's appeal on itself and better harmony.


It's not about "Its sufficient for bitches". What if chad comes and mogs you in every aspect? Would you be comfortable? No. You either need to be the chad, or have something like chad.

 

[messsiahh]

i agree any advice on that?

Volufiline might work i haven’t tried it but i heard it creates puffiness

 

[cometohaunted]

i’m definitely not an incel but i do struggle ngl Ive never had a real gf i mean mostly by choice cuz i didn’t want to date down but like i don’t see girls on a weekly basis and do feel kinda lonely no roster or anything but i should

Trust me you're at a looks level that you could get girls easily LTR's are different obviously but if we're talking about being a slayer you'll pull by just existing most of the time. You seem tall too

 

[notagreytrust]

yeah lips my biggest flaw is there any way to improve that or nah?

He could get a better mouth. That's appeal on itself and better harmony.


It's not about "Its sufficient for bitches". What if chad comes and mogs you in every aspect? Would you be comfortable? No. You either need to be the chad, or have something like chad.

 

[v.3ex]

mostly by choice cuz

nigga’s a volcel. just get hinge or some shit

 

[notagreytrust]

Trust me you're at a looks level that you could get girls easily LTR's are different obviously but if we're talking about being a slayer you'll pull by just existing most of the time. You seem tall too

u reckon i dont seem to pull just by existing i mean online i get compliments and interest but never really goes anywhere girls be wasting time for attention idk

 

[i cant lie cant lie]

yeah lips my biggest flaw is there any way to improve that or nah?

Try volufiline

If not then lipofiller

 

[notagreytrust]

nigga’s a volcel. just get hinge or some shit

got banned lmaoo

 

[cometohaunted]

He could get a better mouth. That's appeal on itself and better harmony.


It's not about "Its sufficient for bitches". What if chad comes and mogs you in every aspect? Would you be comfortable? No. You either need to be the chad, or have something like chad.

This is a retarded internet sensation being pushed by incels "You need to be the best bro what if chad comes" literally the most cope retard ideology I've ever seen. if you're being literal, "chads" are way too rare to even consider that but if you just mean someone better looking, also going to be really fucking rare.

Looks are the most important but they aren't going to matter as much when you have 2 guys and one already looks extremely good but the other one is better. Women don't operate on a "only as faithful as their options" basis.

 

[cometohaunted]

u reckon i dont seem to pull just by existing i mean online i get compliments and interest but never really goes anywhere girls be wasting time for attention idk

Yeah, I mean depends on the girl often because in more degenerate or "easy" places it would be like this like miami for example. People on here don't seem to understand that looks are just to gateway to women it's not going to sustain you for long periods of time.

Or if you're timid and not acting on the interest given they won't just start thirsting over to you since women are really fucking egotistical. Especially when it comes to men.

 

[notagreytrust]

Yeah, I mean depends on the girl often because in more degenerate or "easy" places it would be like this like miami for example. People on here don't seem to understand that looks are just to gateway to women it's not going to sustain you for long periods of time.

Or if you're timid and not acting on the interest given they won't just start thirsting over to you since women are really fucking egotistical. Especially when it comes to men.

hmm ur right u kinda have to reciprocate interest also yeah my town only has like 100k population bro i really wanna move to a big city probably australia for a fresh start and improve my dating life 10x

 

[cometohaunted]

hmm ur right u kinda have to reciprocate interest also yeah my town only has like 100k population bro i really wanna move to a big city probably australia for a fresh start and improve my dating life 10x

Yeah, if you want to slay I'd say to geomaxx. But if you're an LTR guy then I'd 110% just stay in the small town and find a good girl that loves you

 

[notagreytrust]

Yeah, if you want to slay I'd say to geomaxx. But if you're an LTR guy then I'd 110% just stay in the small town and find a good girl that loves you

i’m only 18 my friend did just move to australia at 17 for a good paying job haha so might consider moving too maybe when i have a qualification or a bit older but thanks for the advice i appreciate it i’ll defintely start giving more attention to girls showing interest

 

[notagreytrust]

Yeah, if you want to slay I'd say to geomaxx. But if you're an LTR guy then I'd 110% just stay in the small town and find a good girl that loves you

i do also have to probably work on my social skills as well etc as often I don’t talk to people first cuz i don’t rlly see the point lol but im fixing that slowly

 

[cometohaunted]

i do also have to probably work on my social skills as well etc as often I don’t talk to people first cuz i don’t rlly see the point lol but im fixing that slowly

Good luck bhai

 

[i cant lie cant lie]

This is a retarded internet sensation being pushed by incels "You need to be the best bro what if chad comes" literally the most cope retard ideology I've ever seen. if you're being literal, "chads" are way too rare to even consider that but if you just mean someone better looking, also going to be really fucking rare.

Looks are the most important but they aren't going to matter as much when you have 2 guys and one already looks extremely good but the other one is better. Women don't operate on a "only as faithful as their options" basis.

That isn't the point.

Why wouldn't you look better? This is practically on par w/ bluepill. Why? The ROI of these procedures are very good.


What's the point of saying "it's sufficient"?
Nothing.
But the point of undergoing the procedures exists. Since you look better, they're not too expensive, and they are safe.

He isn't getting lefort 3. Smh

his is a retarded internet sensation being pushed by incels "You need to be the best bro what if chad comes" literally the most cope retard ideology I've ever seen.

That isn't the point. It's a scenario. Simply not being better? Why?

 

[JporkFoid]

Any advice will be considered and appreciated

true Woolworths worker

 

[notagreytrust]

true Woolworths worker

LMAO bro

 

[sigmablud42069]

Any advice will be considered and appreciated

geunuine rope fuel, org should have a lmtn max

 

[notagreytrust]

geunuine rope fuel, org should have a lmtn max

bruh don’t be fooled i’m still lonely man

 

[cometohaunted]

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[cometohaunted]

That isn't the point.

Why wouldn't you look better? This is practically on par w/ bluepill. Why? The ROI of these procedures are very good.


What's the point of saying "it's sufficient"?
Nothing.
But the point of undergoing the procedures exists. Since you look better, they're not too expensive, and they are safe.

He isn't getting lefort 3. Smh

That isn't the point. It's a scenario. Simply not being better? Why?

Because it's not needed, you'll always be able to improve in every single aspect regardless of how much procedures you do. Constantly trying to improve yourself when you literally already have enough is low iq.

Why would you look better? There's 0 reason to look better if you are already enough, it's like trying to overfill a cup that's already full it's pointless and unnecessary.

Also the argument I made wasn't just "it's sufficient" because that implies a bare minimum. So don't strawman, he is a great deal over the bare minimum which is why it isn't needed at all and not good ROI he'll be getting a procedure to do what he already does.

Negligible gains.

Of course he isn't getting lefort 3 but these things still cost money, most being well over 3k lmfao you can invest that into making more money in a different industry or put it down for interest for future kids if he ever wishes to have any.

Your live should never be fully devoted to your looks to the point you're sacrificing things for looks that last 10 years max.

This isn't bluepilled, you're just being a hardcore blackpiller. We all acknowledge lookism and genetic determinism with appearance but that doesn't say "Yeah bro all that matters is looks" that's a retarded hardcore bp mentality that isn't even true. Incel cope.

Betterment requires a logical reason for change that you can't gain in your current position.

Bluepill would say looks doesn't matter that much and that you don't NEED to improve your looks if you're ugly, what I'm saying is literally not even close to bluepill I said there's a point where it's already more than enough for your goals so there's no need to improve from THAT point.

 

[i cant lie cant lie]

Because it's not needed, you'll always be able to improve in every single aspect regardless of how much procedures you do. Constantly trying to improve yourself when you literally already have enough is low iq.

Elaborate now why it would be low IQ

Why would you look better? There's 0 reason to look better if you are already enough, it's like trying to overfill a cup that's already full it's pointless and unnecessary.

Your argument is literally the absence of another argument. That's fallacious

But I'll explain why you'd look better. Because... You'd be treated better? Looks matter, it's not about looks being everything. Him looking better will yield better results. Simple. It's not that it's the primary factor of what the results are. It's just that since looks matter, being better in terms of looks is always a positive. Not doing so is pointless, due to the fact that refraining from improving changes nothing, but improving changes things.
Also what kind of analogy is that? A better on would be if you have sufficient water in a cup to prevent dehydration, but you could have more. Overfilling is impossible if you're trying to keep the analogy logical. And it's not like he'll ever look "too good". That's not a looksmax goal. That's almost always straight up genes.

Also the argument I made wasn't just "it's sufficient" because that implies a bare minimum. So don't strawman, he is a great deal over the bare minimum which is why it isn't needed at all and not good ROI he'll be getting a procedure to do what he already does.

I'm not strawmanning. You said he has enough. That means sufficient. Enough and sufficient is literally the same, how is sufficient meaning bare minimum? You're the straw man here.

t all and not good ROI he'll be getting a procedure to do what he already does.

Negligible gains.

Mouth procedures are very benign, cheap and fast. Why would you reject that? Thin lips is a failo that even normies consciously detect. The mouth and nose are literally the most important for facial aesthetics. The mouth is literally in the middle of the face. It plays a huge role in harmony.

Of course he isn't getting lefort 3 but these things still cost money, most being well over 3k lmfao you can invest that into making more money in a different industry or put it down for interest for future kids if he ever wishes to have any.

This point is redundant. Why?
The ROI of the procedures are good. The 3K isn't as expensive as most surgeries, and it is a minimally invasive procedure. As previously stated, the mouth is crucial to facial harmony. Hence, that means that any process affecting it possitively would yield impressive results.

Here's a lip lift procedure. She literally doubled her Chin-to-Philtrum. He has the same mouth.. He can decrease his philtrum length with this: crucial harmony effect.

Your live should never be fully devoted to your looks to the point you're sacrificing things for looks that last 10 years max.

Acting like the money put on these procedures are abysmally high. Dude. 2-3K$. Minimum wage in US is 12$. 8 hours of minimum wage is 100$ a day.


In a month, you can get enough money for a lip lift. Obviously that doesn't count necessities, so, let's be generous. Lets assume 50% go to necessities [which it wouldn't] so now its 2 months. 2 Months of work? This is MINIMUM WAGE btw. There are many better and more efficient methods. If he got a well paying Job he could get this lift in weeks. What 10 years? You're acting like we're getting OBO. Dude this is a lip lift. It's benign, quick, long lasting, and relatively cheap.

This isn't bluepilled, you're just being a hardcore blackpiller. We all acknowledge lookism and genetic determinism with appearance but that doesn't say "Yeah bro all that matters is looks" that's a retarded hardcore bp mentality that isn't even true. Incel cope.

I never uttered this.
Here's a logic that can help you comprehend what's happening:
Looks matter? Yes
Do looks affect your life? Yes
Do they dictate your life? No
That means any effects on your looks affects your life. But it doesn't dictate it.
You're forgetting what you are. You are forgetting what WE are. This is looksmax.org LOOKS MAXX.
A lip lift is barely shallow in terms of the rabbit hole. So, we're not even close to looks maxing.

Betterment requires a logical reason for change that you can't gain in your current position.

Improve looks -> better life? yes.
As stated before [Repeating so you dont say this again] even though looks dont dictate your life, They DO affect your life. So if you can affect your looks? It affects your life. It doesn't dictate it of course. All of this is optional.


But when you're asking for advice? What do you expect? Geniunely what am I meant to say, If you deem looksmaxxing unnecessary in this situation? I gave them what they asked for: benign, cheap, quick, long lasting procedure. How is this bad ROI? Negligible gains?
Impossible.

Bluepill would say looks doesn't matter that much and that you don't NEED to improve your looks if you're ugly, what I'm saying is literally not even close to bluepill I said there's a point where it's already more than enough for your goals so there's no need to improve from THAT point.

Well yea... Obviously you aren't a bluepiller. But you sound like one.
Here's what you said [unambigious and unfiltered BTW, this is your candid statements]:

"Bluepill would say looks doesn't matter that much and that you don't NEED to improve your looks if you're ugly,"

"Because it's not needed, you'll always be able to improve in every single aspect regardless of how much procedures you do."

Sounds similar. Again, I'm not saying you're a bluepiller. Simply, your logic is approaching to the bluepill side. Also, that "always be able to improve" is impossible. There's a limit to how big your implants can be. Limit to how much filler you can use. There are fails you cant fix.
Now don't take that last part seriously, I'm not telling him to use implants. But if we actually went hardcore "never enough", it would be fillers and osteotomies. Not fucking lip lifts.

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