90days cycle before after

[Sachlichkeit]

I am running the gauntlet. Bear witness
Welcome back lads. I have retired the substack and returned because frankly u guys need me & I need u. What is the point of victory without an audience?

If u guys want to see what ive been up 2 read the notes. I will reformat and start posting the stuff today anyways. I will post updates and threads every sunday. https://substack.com/@keicht/notes

original stack: https://looksmax.org/threads/turbo-autism-ectomorph-to-mesomorph-stack.1472948/
actual stack ran (is attached as .txt because its too long.) No I didn't run all of it to the T but I ran most of it.
I wont be posting sources or any future cycles because u guys ask too much of me do it urself

I been hitting abs too much, 3x/wk

I been doing pullups on the swingset outside and incline pushups for upper chest + situps thats about it 3x week to failure and beyond 2-3x times w/a preworkout

heres the plan, we get gym membership and overcompensate for mild pectus with upper chest for huge tits and delts to widen out the 17inch bidelt.

also eventually working up to 2g/gear and 10iu hgh + a few epigenetic modulators to max framewidening and spinal appositional thickening (roughly 18-24) in men.

Think controlled acromegaly.

Crux of cycle will be test base, nandrolone, and tren.

Thats all boys. Best wishes, good luck. <<<3

 

[MulletM1chas]

nice effects

 

[FiendFiend]

I am running the gauntlet. Bear witness
Welcome back lads. I have retired the substack and returned because frankly u guys need me & I need u. What is the point of victory without an audience?

If u guys want to see what ive been up 2 read the notes. I will reformat and start posting the stuff today anyways. I will post updates and threads every sunday. https://substack.com/@keicht/notes

original stack: https://looksmax.org/threads/turbo-autism-ectomorph-to-mesomorph-stack.1472948/
actual stack ran (is attached as .txt because its too long.) No I didn't run all of it to the T but I ran most of it.
I wont be posting sources or any future cycles because u guys ask too much of me do it urself

I been hitting abs too much, 3x/wk

I been doing pullups on the swingset outside and incline pushups for upper chest + situps thats about it 3x week to failure and beyond 2-3x times w/a preworkout

heres the plan, we get gym membership and overcompensate for mild pectus with upper chest for huge tits and delts to widen out the 17inch bidelt.

also eventually working up to 2g/gear and 10iu hgh + a few epigenetic modulators to max framewidening and spinal appositional thickening (roughly 18-24) in men.

Think controlled acromegaly.

Crux of cycle will be test base, nandrolone, and tren.

Thats all boys. Best wishes, good luck. <<<3

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90 days is a lil too long for a cycle but nice results

 

[Sachlichkeit]

90 days is a lil too long for a cycle but nice results

im blasting for 2years minimum

 

[FiendFiend]

im blasting for 2years minimum

Nigga r u retarded? ur gonna die

 

[Sachlichkeit]

Nigga r u retarded? ur gonna die

ur like 14yrs old

 

[FiendFiend]

ur like 14yrs old

nigga fym ur gonna blast for 2 years? is there 0 cruising period? nigga u do realize thats not how AAS or SARMs work

 

[Sachlichkeit]

nigga fym ur gonna blast for 2 years? is there 0 cruising period? nigga u do realize thats not how AAS or SARMs work

trust me ive been blasting for 3 montsh im basically an expert

 

[FiendFiend]

trust me ive been blasting for 3 montsh im basically an expert

ur meant to BLAST and CRUISE to recover ur fucking organs mirin the mental retardation though, lmk when ur in the hospital.

 

[Sachlichkeit]

ur meant to BLAST and CRUISE to recover ur fucking organs mirin the mental retardation though, lmk when ur in the hospital.

22k posts joined 2025 ur all talk gang lets see a before and after

 

[stacyworshipper]

Mirin

 

[Sachlichkeit]

tagging the boys @hamiwts @Zagro @Dex1310 @unon

 

[shalomnigga]

high Iq tryna do the same

 

[Aryan Incel]

I am running the gauntlet. Bear witness
Welcome back lads. I have retired the substack and returned because frankly u guys need me & I need u. What is the point of victory without an audience?

If u guys want to see what ive been up 2 read the notes. I will reformat and start posting the stuff today anyways. I will post updates and threads every sunday. https://substack.com/@keicht/notes

original stack: https://looksmax.org/threads/turbo-autism-ectomorph-to-mesomorph-stack.1472948/
actual stack ran (is attached as .txt because its too long.) No I didn't run all of it to the T but I ran most of it.
I wont be posting sources or any future cycles because u guys ask too much of me do it urself

I been hitting abs too much, 3x/wk

I been doing pullups on the swingset outside and incline pushups for upper chest + situps thats about it 3x week to failure and beyond 2-3x times w/a preworkout

heres the plan, we get gym membership and overcompensate for mild pectus with upper chest for huge tits and delts to widen out the 17inch bidelt.

also eventually working up to 2g/gear and 10iu hgh + a few epigenetic modulators to max framewidening and spinal appositional thickening (roughly 18-24) in men.

Think controlled acromegaly.

Crux of cycle will be test base, nandrolone, and tren.

Thats all boys. Best wishes, good luck. <<<3

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So you’re just gonna casually up your dose from 350 mg to 2g?

 

[Sachlichkeit]

So you’re just gonna casually up your dose from 350 mg to 2g?

it was 500 and some change trust me im a millionaire genius

 

[Sachlichkeit]

I will reformat and start posting the stuff today anyways.

no I wont and I dont have anything else to say currently I will see u guys next sunday

 

[tatin__]

bro are u trying to be a bodybuilder? blasting for 2 years will definitely give diminishing returns on body halo.

 

[King.epstein]

mirin the progress, but you gotta housemax it looks like a grandmas house

 

[Sachlichkeit]

bro are u trying to be a bodybuilder? blasting for 2 years will definitely give diminishing returns on body halo.

couple points

since est. ~1960 avg T of man has decreased a little over 1% every year, that is, american kids typically have HALF the hormonal profile of their fathers and consistently lack the attitude, physique, facial aesthetics and general dimorphism of their fathers. The boys are being femininized

That was my original reason for looking into lifting, hormones and TRT. I was/am late bloomer and most of the zoomers around me are as well. So general population is chronically emasculated for huge pile of reasons mainly from diet and little things + lifestyle choices

Lifting. period. Lifting, especially when developing masculinizes not only the male body but the brain and attitude as well. compared to every other form of physical exercise lifting blows all of them out of the water. Upregulates androgen sensitivity, IGF-1 (growth hormone.) sensitivity, keeps brain and neurological system healthy, something like 70% effective at controlling mental health related things such as depression (only second to dancing,) this is literally more effective than SSRIs mind altering medication I believe.

So lifting weights and secondary masculine features such as face & height esp in puberty and even late developmental period is connected.

If u lift young, you will be more masculine, healthier and both mentally sharp AND healthy than other people.

Intellectuals have looked for ways to keep the brain healthy besides acute physical stress from exercise because people hate working out, they haven't found a solution.

I would go as far to say if u r man you need to lift. The upregulation of growth factors, and things like "the pump" physical high you get from lifting weights isn't really something women can experience, The aesthetic ceiling for men is higher than it is for women.

Now, as for androgens and pharmacology. If the avg T of man has been cut in half, why would I bother to play fair by "softmaxxing," dietary nonsense, run in forest meditate half an hour and eat organ meats to fix my hormones.

Not only is the "aesthetic ceiling" higher for men than it is for women, but so is the pharmacologic. Yea I could put together an HRT stack for girls maybe it give u fatter ass or something, but for men, so many things can be changed. Increase in muscle density, muscle fiber individual count, the changing of skeletal proportions, thickening of brow ridge, lower mandible, redistribution of facial fat, hypertrophy of facial muscles, facial hair, chest hair, thickening of brows, secondary sexual characteristics, vascularity in hands, zygomatic thickening blablablabla all these things can be changed assuming u r still growing, and in women they are not. I view roiding as a risk I have the privilege of taking if that makes sense.

Yes there are also plenty ancillaries to mitigate most if not all of the noticeable longterm effects from AAS.

we "looksmaxx" for aesthetic tradition of western culture, not for girls or social status,

beauty and strength need no explanation

There is no TRT, no medical solution to the problem of decrease in testosterone, TRT ignores the HPG axis, nukes neurosteroid profile, makes you temporarily infertile, by the time I figured out that there was no easy solution I was already cycling mainly for reasons above.

So if ur gonna blast, blast.

 

[Sachlichkeit]

mirin the progress, but you gotta housemax it looks like a grandmas house

gang thats exactly what it is dw we gonna make it out the hood

 

[King.epstein]

gang thats exactly what it is dw we gonna make it out the hood

absolute peak

 

[tatin__]

I agree

couple points

since est. ~1960 avg T of man has decreased a little over 1% every year, that is, american kids typically have HALF the hormonal profile of their fathers and consistently lack the attitude, physique, facial aesthetics and general dimorphism of their fathers. The boys are being femininized

That was my original reason for looking into lifting, hormones and TRT. I was/am late bloomer and most of the zoomers around me are as well. So general population is chronically emasculated for huge pile of reasons mainly from diet and little things + lifestyle choices

Lifting. period. Lifting, especially when developing masculinizes not only the male body but the brain and attitude as well. compared to every other form of physical exercise lifting blows all of them out of the water. Upregulates androgen sensitivity, IGF-1 (growth hormone.) sensitivity, keeps brain and neurological system healthy, something like 70% effective at controlling mental health related things such as depression (only second to dancing,) this is literally more effective than SSRIs mind altering medication I believe.

So lifting weights and secondary masculine features such as face & height esp in puberty and even late developmental period is connected.

If u lift young, you will be more masculine, healthier and both mentally sharp AND healthy than other people.

Intellectuals have looked for ways to keep the brain healthy besides acute physical stress from exercise because people hate working out, they haven't found a solution.

I would go as far to say if u r man you need to lift. The upregulation of growth factors, and things like "the pump" physical high you get from lifting weights isn't really something women can experience, The aesthetic ceiling for men is higher than it is for women.

Now, as for androgens and pharmacology. If the avg T of man has been cut in half, why would I bother to play fair by "softmaxxing," dietary nonsense, run in forest meditate half an hour and eat organ meats to fix my hormones.

Not only is the "aesthetic ceiling" higher for men than it is for women, but so is the pharmacologic. Yea I could put together an HRT stack for girls maybe it give u fatter ass or something, but for men, so many things can be changed. Increase in muscle density, muscle fiber individual count, the changing of skeletal proportions, thickening of brow ridge, lower mandible, redistribution of facial fat, hypertrophy of facial muscles, facial hair, chest hair, thickening of brows, secondary sexual characteristics, vascularity in hands, zygomatic thickening blablablabla all these things can be changed assuming u r still growing, and in women they are not. I view roiding as a risk I have the privilege of taking if that makes sense.

Yes there are also plenty ancillaries to mitigate most if not all of the noticeable longterm effects from AAS.

we "looksmaxx" for aesthetic tradition of western culture, not for girls or social status, View attachment 4380350beauty and strength need no explanation

There is no TRT, no medical solution to the problem of decrease in testosterone, TRT ignores the HPG axis, nukes neurosteroid profile, makes you temporarily infertile, by the time I figured out that there was no easy solution I was already cycling mainly for reasons above.

So if ur gonna blast, blast.

I agree with the general consensus of your post. However you have to still weigh out the pros and cons given your age (the most important part). Have you had your testosterone measured? You are at the highest natural production in your life from post puberty to early 20’s. If you had your testosterone checked and it’s 600+, why not stay natural for a bit longer? Why replace a perfectly functioning system with something exogenous? Also there is soooo much controversy surrounding ancillaries and their reactions to developing individuals that i’m not even sure I have a concrete understanding yet. Nuking DHT, crashing e2 (if ur retarded), fucking with your cholesterol, liver health, and endocrine system as a whole, etc,. Is it worth it at 18-21? I’m curious to hear your reasoning. Personally hair loss is a #1 factor for me in not hopping on anabolics. Sure you can nuke DHt with dutasteride, but what are the long term effects of 0 DHT in a 18-21 year olds body?

 

[Sachlichkeit]

your age (the most important part). Have you had your testosterone measured? You are at the highest natural production in your life from post puberty to early 20’s. If you had your testosterone checked and it’s 600+,

2late

why not stay natural for a bit longer?

for permanent unnatural gains

Why replace a perfectly functioning system with something exogenous?

to overclock it

Nuking DHT, crashing e2 (if ur retarded), fucking with your cholesterol, liver health, and endocrine system as a whole, etc,.

yes those are risks. Though being fat and retarded, drinking, smoking, eating garbage, etcetera do the same things yet there is no social criticism. only when people use drugs for delayed gratification related things do people think its socially acceptable to criticize them

Is it worth it at 18-21?

only one way to find out

Personally hair loss is a #1 factor for me in not hopping on anabolics. Sure you can nuke DHt with dutasteride, but what are the long term effects of 0 DHT in a 18-21 year olds body?

im not on any 5ar orals, just ket shampoo + conditioner and topical fin (soon.) ive used topical anti androgen RU58841 but topical fin should work.

for permanent unnatural gains

thats exactly why, theres asymmetric risk and reward to using PEDS during development as the results are permanent whereas post 24 they are not.

 

[hamiwts]

I am running the gauntlet. Bear witness
Welcome back lads. I have retired the substack and returned because frankly u guys need me & I need u. What is the point of victory without an audience?

If u guys want to see what ive been up 2 read the notes. I will reformat and start posting the stuff today anyways. I will post updates and threads every sunday. https://substack.com/@keicht/notes

original stack: https://looksmax.org/threads/turbo-autism-ectomorph-to-mesomorph-stack.1472948/
actual stack ran (is attached as .txt because its too long.) No I didn't run all of it to the T but I ran most of it.
I wont be posting sources or any future cycles because u guys ask too much of me do it urself

I been hitting abs too much, 3x/wk

I been doing pullups on the swingset outside and incline pushups for upper chest + situps thats about it 3x week to failure and beyond 2-3x times w/a preworkout

heres the plan, we get gym membership and overcompensate for mild pectus with upper chest for huge tits and delts to widen out the 17inch bidelt.

also eventually working up to 2g/gear and 10iu hgh + a few epigenetic modulators to max framewidening and spinal appositional thickening (roughly 18-24) in men.

Think controlled acromegaly.

Crux of cycle will be test base, nandrolone, and tren.

Thats all boys. Best wishes, good luck. <<<3

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good that ur back, mirin the progress, my ascension too will start soon right now only on test and trial and error with letrozole

 

[Zagro]

I am running the gauntlet. Bear witness
Welcome back lads. I have retired the substack and returned because frankly u guys need me & I need u. What is the point of victory without an audience?

If u guys want to see what ive been up 2 read the notes. I will reformat and start posting the stuff today anyways. I will post updates and threads every sunday. https://substack.com/@keicht/notes

original stack: https://looksmax.org/threads/turbo-autism-ectomorph-to-mesomorph-stack.1472948/
actual stack ran (is attached as .txt because its too long.) No I didn't run all of it to the T but I ran most of it.
I wont be posting sources or any future cycles because u guys ask too much of me do it urself

I been hitting abs too much, 3x/wk

I been doing pullups on the swingset outside and incline pushups for upper chest + situps thats about it 3x week to failure and beyond 2-3x times w/a preworkout

heres the plan, we get gym membership and overcompensate for mild pectus with upper chest for huge tits and delts to widen out the 17inch bidelt.

also eventually working up to 2g/gear and 10iu hgh + a few epigenetic modulators to max framewidening and spinal appositional thickening (roughly 18-24) in men.

Think controlled acromegaly.

Crux of cycle will be test base, nandrolone, and tren.

Thats all boys. Best wishes, good luck. <<<3

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High androgenic load rapes the growth plates no?

 

[Dex1310]

I am running the gauntlet. Bear witness
Welcome back lads. I have retired the substack and returned because frankly u guys need me & I need u. What is the point of victory without an audience?

If u guys want to see what ive been up 2 read the notes. I will reformat and start posting the stuff today anyways. I will post updates and threads every sunday. https://substack.com/@keicht/notes

original stack: https://looksmax.org/threads/turbo-autism-ectomorph-to-mesomorph-stack.1472948/
actual stack ran (is attached as .txt because its too long.) No I didn't run all of it to the T but I ran most of it.
I wont be posting sources or any future cycles because u guys ask too much of me do it urself

I been hitting abs too much, 3x/wk

I been doing pullups on the swingset outside and incline pushups for upper chest + situps thats about it 3x week to failure and beyond 2-3x times w/a preworkout

heres the plan, we get gym membership and overcompensate for mild pectus with upper chest for huge tits and delts to widen out the 17inch bidelt.

also eventually working up to 2g/gear and 10iu hgh + a few epigenetic modulators to max framewidening and spinal appositional thickening (roughly 18-24) in men.

Think controlled acromegaly.

Crux of cycle will be test base, nandrolone, and tren.

Thats all boys. Best wishes, good luck. <<<3

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W stack and progress good luck man

 

[Sachlichkeit]

High androgenic load rapes the growth plates no?

Ya

but there is no cap on appositional thickening. Would be more careful if long bone plates are still open as for frame widening can blast more

People with acromegaly typically see 2-3 inches of growth with CLOSED plates through bone thickening realistically growth of cartilage disks in spine as well. The acromegaly "hand widening" also applies to feet bones/joints too I believe. that is, if you blast GH acromegaly tier WITHOUT androgens a 2inch increase in height is expected

gear synergizes obviously, if I could find the anecdotal thread(s) talking about this I would but its a waste of time. Basically people accomplishing post pubertal frame growth through blasting insane amounts of both GH and gear. not even joking, apparently "chris from tinder stack" was 5g gear 10iu hgh for years starting at age 21. will he die at 30? maybe, does he have huge organs? probably., did it work? yes. So be careful and choose wisely boys.

 

[Sachlichkeit]

Im not sure ill be able to get the threads out I want today so ill write up little post here now for u guys

"Keicht, why only post sunday?"

I dont want to time travel on org



Any time I think about not posting im reminded that the gains I have only came from me building and applying other people's work. So it would be wrong for me to not do the same, even though sometimes it seems retarded or sometimes ill post something that turns out completely wrong. Eventually, boys who want similar results will read the threads, come up with their own theories and usecases, apply them, and produce better results. U guys hate on each other on org alot, I refuse to do that. World is harsh enough as it is. If u guys can read threads and gleam some sort of useful information from my rambling that makes ur life better, good, cus thats what I want.

There are 3-4 medically recognized ways to mitigate AAS toxicity. HRT FTM kicks women's ass because Steroids are a CONSTANT stream of androgens from injection to re injection, the fluctuation (and rest) from androgens that come from natural hormones has been removed. This is why TRT users have an "unnatural" mental stability when injecting though they largely ignore the cognitive decline from MENTAL epigenetic remodeling and neurosteroid deficiency through decline of the HPG axis. I believe studies have been conducted that say the brain on a constant stream of androgens develops differently than natural. Obv Pregnenolone and HCG can help as the HPG hypogonadal pituitary axis (the brain and balls are connected,) can be partially supplemented.

Doctors basically give girls sub250mg TRT dose and say "ur are man now," this probably wrecks their fertility organs but also chronically raises their blood pressure and messes with their brain I state in post above, there is. no. "trt". pharma companies saw opportunity to supplement hormones for money and doctors say "ok." I am rambling

Melatonin, NAC, and KYOLIC, (aged garlic extract,) have been medically recognized in studies to combat AAS toxicity. We can use accutane and tretinoin for skin of course, but gear still attacks our bodys on a cellular level, pushing things like apoptosis (cell death,) and bunch of other nonsense. This is medically recognized as shortening the "healthspan" of a man's life. Healthspan is how long you can live healthy, not how long you live.

High dose melatonin (originally popularized by loox,) and medically recognized as a significant antioxidant has been explored as an AAS toxicity combatant. We are externally supplementing our hormones at an extreme level, so the game has become trying to mitigate risk by externally supplementing counterlevers at extreme levels. Anti-oxidants to arrest the ROS reactive oxidative stress from steroids is one of if not the most important. The others being blood pressure, blood thickness (hematocrit,) and cholesterol (I think.)

AAS mitigation barely breaks out of studies as there is no ethical market for pharmaceutical companies providing mitigation for what is recognized as drug abuse in the modern west.

The most effective anti-oxidant is glutathione. It would be worth injecting but it only stays in the body for short period of time. The medically recognized way to raise glutathione is to give patients an IV drip of NAC, a building block of glutathione, as glut cannot get into the cellular walls (or something like that,) and NAC can. IV NAC is used in liver failure I believe. There are other blocks to supplement, Alpha lipoic acid I belive, but nac is the primary lever.

Melatonin should be 50-100mg ED every night at least, and raised depending on steroid dose. No, I am not drowsy upon waking and have no noticeable side effects

NAC has 10% bioavailability, so you would need to take like 10 pills. ESTER, remember esters? for example, testosterone E enanthate is the ester that allows test to circulate for 4-5 days. Nac with an ester, recognized as NACET is 15x more bioavailable, and recognized in europe as a feasible way to raise NAC levels in the body. Easy supp, amazon for 25-30$ for a 1-2/mo supply.

Kyolic, aged garlic extract has also been studied for AAS toxicity, I don't know much about it, its apparently really good for veins.

But the most important out of the 3 is by far high dose melatonin.

NOW, r u thin???

Spiking insulin allows for growth, its the most. anabolic hormone in the body. NOT testosterone. INSULIN, is the most anabolic hormone in the body. if you wanted huge muscles you would just pin insulin postworkout. so why don't we do that? Because we prefer frame growth, not muscle, also diabetes risk, also if you mess up an insulin dose the body shuts down glucose production (I think,) this cuts off sugar in the brain, neurons stop firing, it instantly starts killing neurons, this means literal brain damage at the minimum and possible death in 3-4 hours. I would rather do a gram of tren than mess up an insulin dose.

SUGAR, raw cane sugar. Is easily palatable, easy carbs, perfect for bulking, passes through the body fast, and spikes insulin allowing for growth. if you eat sugar all day it will chronically raise insulin, you will get closer to diabetes. So instead we mix it with protein shakes, meals, etc, 2-3 4-5x/day. the fact that it spikes insulin fast and provides carbs fast, also that its easy to eat, makes it severely underrated for both bulking and growth.

The bodybuilder alternative is dextrose, which is designed to spike insulin the most, which is why bodybuilders have dextrose shakes POSTWORKOUT, but this does not provide the dual carb source we need for growth. Sugar is both easy calories, and an insulin spike.

This is for skinny niggas.

2% or skim milk is an alright alternative as it disproportionately spikes insulin, provides a little sugar via lactose, whey protein, found in milk, and calcium for bones. Note, if you add whey isolate to milk, and let it sit, the whey isolate is absorbed, and is practically tasteless.)

So you can realistically bulk on 200g whey protein chocolate milk every day. thats where most of my protein comes from. 1-2scoops flavored whey, 1-2scoops unflavored whey, 2% milk, both whey isolate. "what about chicken, steak eggs?" blahblahblah, no need. for nutrient profile meat is good, but whey is so high on the diaas protein score that if you just want protein its effective. If you want protein without the insulin spike use powdered egg whites.

Why 2%-0% skim milk instead of raw/whole? Fat is unnecessary aside from hormonal synthesis, I get mine from regular food and 3-4g omega3 fish oil. Makes you feel full longer, more difficult on dietary tract, contributes basically nothing to muscle or bone growth, ( think.)

I wanted to write about skincare as my face looks like tomato, and I am developing bit of nandrolone moon face, but it looks like theres no time. I appear to be allergic to some chemical in basically every skincare moisturizer product but somehow can still run tretinoin easily. Just more progress needed, 2steps forward, maybe 1 step back. We are 20 days into the second cycle.

When I get paid we hit the face, hydroquinone, prostag analogs, eyebrows, lemon bottle, etc etc. Ive thought about bonesmashing ngl but 30mins ED of hammer on face not really worth it. I have TMJ right jaw joint so chewing gum to stimulate remodeling isn't as easy. Just standard mewing though palatal suture is already closed.

NOW. mechanical tension

What is severely understated is the body's ability to adapt to stress and remodel, post puberty. Tren E is the best steroid (as far as I know) to accomplish this as it synergizes with the body's ability to do so. High dose tren is the post puberty frame grower. not because its super androgenic, which it is, but because of satellite cell muscle enhancement, superior nutrient shuttling, and synergizing abnormally well with IGF-1 when compared to its androgenic brothers.

for GYNO, controlling estrogen via aromatase inhibitors, DHT, either a topical self formulation applied to chest or a DHT derivative such as masteron. SERMS, probably raloxifene (to control estrogen expression in the chest,) and controlling progesterone, which is more difficult. Once breast tissue develops and stays for long time u need surgery as its literally new tissue in chest that wont go away.

For organomegaly and LVH hypertrophy, telmisartan, which is blood pressure medication, also partially targets mineralocorticoid receptor meaning it helps with facial bloat from testosterone, and beta blockers to control andrenergic tone. How u get LVH hypertrophy? Blood pressure raises chronically, veins get bigger, u go to gym, steroids provide bigger andrenaline high, blood pressure increases, veins become "hypertrophied" similar to muscle. Beta blockers mute the adrenaline high, telmisartan controls bloodpressure. I wish I could write more on telmisartan as its great drug but I don't know enough.

U titrate telmisartan based on blood pressure (read using blood pressure cuff.) Mine is currently at the very bottom of normal range on 80mg. if ur blasting like 1g gear realistically you might be on 160mg a day.

Metformin (taken at night) also assists in insulin sensitivity from exogenous GH use, and cuts down on background GH signaling which is what contributes to larger organs. it mutes IGF-1 expression by 10-20% in athletes, but that is negligible as it disproportionately targets the part of GH that grows organs. has also been associated with anti aging, good ancillary. Originally developed as prediabetic drug.

The most effective drug for controlling insulin resistance from GH use is 45-1hour of zone 2 cardio every day. By far.

Thats all boys, next sunday. o7

@Zagro @hamiwts @unon @Dex1310

 

[Sachlichkeit]

"I refuse to accept my destiny"
Banger?

 

[hamiwts]

Im not sure ill be able to get the threads out I want today so ill write up little post here now for u guys

"Keicht, why only post sunday?"

I dont want to time travel on org



Any time I think about not posting im reminded that the gains I have only came from me building and applying other people's work. So it would be wrong for me to not do the same, even though sometimes it seems retarded or sometimes ill post something that turns out completely wrong. Eventually, boys who want similar results will read the threads, come up with their own theories and usecases, apply them, and produce better results. U guys hate on each other on org alot, I refuse to do that. World is harsh enough as it is. If u guys can read threads and gleam some sort of useful information from my rambling that makes ur life better, good, cus thats what I want.

There are 3-4 medically recognized ways to mitigate AAS toxicity. HRT FTM kicks women's ass because Steroids are a CONSTANT stream of androgens from injection to re injection, the fluctuation (and rest) from androgens that come from natural hormones has been removed. This is why TRT users have an "unnatural" mental stability when injecting though they largely ignore the cognitive decline from MENTAL epigenetic remodeling and neurosteroid deficiency through decline of the HPG axis. I believe studies have been conducted that say the brain on a constant stream of androgens develops differently than natural. Obv Pregnenolone and HCG can help as the HPG hypogonadal pituitary axis (the brain and balls are connected,) can be partially supplemented.

Doctors basically give girls sub250mg TRT dose and say "ur are man now," this probably wrecks their fertility organs but also chronically raises their blood pressure and messes with their brain I state in post above, there is. no. "trt". pharma companies saw opportunity to supplement hormones for money and doctors say "ok." I am rambling

Melatonin, NAC, and KYOLIC, (aged garlic extract,) have been medically recognized in studies to combat AAS toxicity. We can use accutane and tretinoin for skin of course, but gear still attacks our bodys on a cellular level, pushing things like apoptosis (cell death,) and bunch of other nonsense. This is medically recognized as shortening the "healthspan" of a man's life. Healthspan is how long you can live healthy, not how long you live.

High dose melatonin (originally popularized by loox,) and medically recognized as a significant antioxidant has been explored as an AAS toxicity combatant. We are externally supplementing our hormones at an extreme level, so the game has become trying to mitigate risk by externally supplementing counterlevers at extreme levels. Anti-oxidants to arrest the ROS reactive oxidative stress from steroids is one of if not the most important. The others being blood pressure, blood thickness (hematocrit,) and cholesterol (I think.)

AAS mitigation barely breaks out of studies as there is no ethical market for pharmaceutical companies providing mitigation for what is recognized as drug abuse in the modern west.

The most effective anti-oxidant is glutathione. It would be worth injecting but it only stays in the body for short period of time. The medically recognized way to raise glutathione is to give patients an IV drip of NAC, a building block of glutathione, as glut cannot get into the cellular walls (or something like that,) and NAC can. IV NAC is used in liver failure I believe. There are other blocks to supplement, Alpha lipoic acid I belive, but nac is the primary lever.

Melatonin should be 50-100mg ED every night at least, and raised depending on steroid dose. No, I am not drowsy upon waking and have no noticeable side effects

NAC has 10% bioavailability, so you would need to take like 10 pills. ESTER, remember esters? for example, testosterone E enanthate is the ester that allows test to circulate for 4-5 days. Nac with an ester, recognized as NACET is 15x more bioavailable, and recognized in europe as a feasible way to raise NAC levels in the body. Easy supp, amazon for 25-30$ for a 1-2/mo supply.

Kyolic, aged garlic extract has also been studied for AAS toxicity, I don't know much about it, its apparently really good for veins.

But the most important out of the 3 is by far high dose melatonin.

NOW, r u thin???

Spiking insulin allows for growth, its the most. anabolic hormone in the body. NOT testosterone. INSULIN, is the most anabolic hormone in the body. if you wanted huge muscles you would just pin insulin postworkout. so why don't we do that? Because we prefer frame growth, not muscle, also diabetes risk, also if you mess up an insulin dose the body shuts down glucose production (I think,) this cuts off sugar in the brain, neurons stop firing, it instantly starts killing neurons, this means literal brain damage at the minimum and possible death in 3-4 hours. I would rather do a gram of tren than mess up an insulin dose.

SUGAR, raw cane sugar. Is easily palatable, easy carbs, perfect for bulking, passes through the body fast, and spikes insulin allowing for growth. if you eat sugar all day it will chronically raise insulin, you will get closer to diabetes. So instead we mix it with protein shakes, meals, etc, 2-3 4-5x/day. the fact that it spikes insulin fast and provides carbs fast, also that its easy to eat, makes it severely underrated for both bulking and growth.

The bodybuilder alternative is dextrose, which is designed to spike insulin the most, which is why bodybuilders have dextrose shakes POSTWORKOUT, but this does not provide the dual carb source we need for growth. Sugar is both easy calories, and an insulin spike.

This is for skinny niggas.

2% or skim milk is an alright alternative as it disproportionately spikes insulin, provides a little sugar via lactose, whey protein, found in milk, and calcium for bones. Note, if you add whey isolate to milk, and let it sit, the whey isolate is absorbed, and is practically tasteless.)

So you can realistically bulk on 200g whey protein chocolate milk every day. thats where most of my protein comes from. 1-2scoops flavored whey, 1-2scoops unflavored whey, 2% milk, both whey isolate. "what about chicken, steak eggs?" blahblahblah, no need. for nutrient profile meat is good, but whey is so high on the diaas protein score that if you just want protein its effective. If you want protein without the insulin spike use powdered egg whites.

Why 2%-0% skim milk instead of raw/whole? Fat is unnecessary aside from hormonal synthesis, I get mine from regular food and 3-4g omega3 fish oil. Makes you feel full longer, more difficult on dietary tract, contributes basically nothing to muscle or bone growth, ( think.)

I wanted to write about skincare as my face looks like tomato, and I am developing bit of nandrolone moon face, but it looks like theres no time. I appear to be allergic to some chemical in basically every skincare moisturizer product but somehow can still run tretinoin easily. Just more progress needed, 2steps forward, maybe 1 step back. We are 20 days into the second cycle.

When I get paid we hit the face, hydroquinone, prostag analogs, eyebrows, lemon bottle, etc etc. Ive thought about bonesmashing ngl but 30mins ED of hammer on face not really worth it. I have TMJ right jaw joint so chewing gum to stimulate remodeling isn't as easy. Just standard mewing though palatal suture is already closed.

NOW. mechanical tension

What is severely understated is the body's ability to adapt to stress and remodel, post puberty. Tren E is the best steroid (as far as I know) to accomplish this as it synergizes with the body's ability to do so. High dose tren is the post puberty frame grower. not because its super androgenic, which it is, but because of satellite cell muscle enhancement, superior nutrient shuttling, and synergizing abnormally well with IGF-1 when compared to its androgenic brothers.

for GYNO, controlling estrogen via aromatase inhibitors, DHT, either a topical self formulation applied to chest or a DHT derivative such as masteron. SERMS, probably raloxifene (to control estrogen expression in the chest,) and controlling progesterone, which is more difficult. Once breast tissue develops and stays for long time u need surgery as its literally new tissue in chest that wont go away.

For organomegaly and LVH hypertrophy, telmisartan, which is blood pressure medication, also partially targets mineralocorticoid receptor meaning it helps with facial bloat from testosterone, and beta blockers to control andrenergic tone. How u get LVH hypertrophy? Blood pressure raises chronically, veins get bigger, u go to gym, steroids provide bigger andrenaline high, blood pressure increases, veins become "hypertrophied" similar to muscle. Beta blockers mute the adrenaline high, telmisartan controls bloodpressure. I wish I could write more on telmisartan as its great drug but I don't know enough.

U titrate telmisartan based on blood pressure (read using blood pressure cuff.) Mine is currently at the very bottom of normal range on 80mg. if ur blasting like 1g gear realistically you might be on 160mg a day.

Metformin (taken at night) also assists in insulin sensitivity from exogenous GH use, and cuts down on background GH signaling which is what contributes to larger organs. it mutes IGF-1 expression by 10-20% in athletes, but that is negligible as it disproportionately targets the part of GH that grows organs. has also been associated with anti aging, good ancillary. Originally developed as prediabetic drug.

The most effective drug for controlling insulin resistance from GH use is 45-1hour of zone 2 cardio every day. By far.

Thats all boys, next sunday. o7

@Zagro @hamiwts @unon @Dex1310

just be Chad and use taz 0.1 and no other skincare

 

[LTNUser]

just be Chad and use taz 0.1 and no other skincare

Name of the guy in mugshot ?

 

[Deleted member 303171]

All that text above me just to not gain any visual bone changes and just end up with larger muscle, brutal genetics pill

 

[hamiwts]

Name of the guy in mugshot ?

me lol why

 

[looks4life]

I am running the gauntlet. Bear witness
Welcome back lads. I have retired the substack and returned because frankly u guys need me & I need u. What is the point of victory without an audience?

If u guys want to see what ive been up 2 read the notes. I will reformat and start posting the stuff today anyways. I will post updates and threads every sunday. https://substack.com/@keicht/notes

original stack: https://looksmax.org/threads/turbo-autism-ectomorph-to-mesomorph-stack.1472948/
actual stack ran (is attached as .txt because its too long.) No I didn't run all of it to the T but I ran most of it.
I wont be posting sources or any future cycles because u guys ask too much of me do it urself

I been hitting abs too much, 3x/wk

I been doing pullups on the swingset outside and incline pushups for upper chest + situps thats about it 3x week to failure and beyond 2-3x times w/a preworkout

heres the plan, we get gym membership and overcompensate for mild pectus with upper chest for huge tits and delts to widen out the 17inch bidelt.

also eventually working up to 2g/gear and 10iu hgh + a few epigenetic modulators to max framewidening and spinal appositional thickening (roughly 18-24) in men.

Think controlled acromegaly.

Crux of cycle will be test base, nandrolone, and tren.

Thats all boys. Best wishes, good luck. <<<3

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How long do you plan on using

I am running the gauntlet. Bear witness
Welcome back lads. I have retired the substack and returned because frankly u guys need me & I need u. What is the point of victory without an audience?

If u guys want to see what ive been up 2 read the notes. I will reformat and start posting the stuff today anyways. I will post updates and threads every sunday. https://substack.com/@keicht/notes

original stack: https://looksmax.org/threads/turbo-autism-ectomorph-to-mesomorph-stack.1472948/
actual stack ran (is attached as .txt because its too long.) No I didn't run all of it to the T but I ran most of it.
I wont be posting sources or any future cycles because u guys ask too much of me do it urself

I been hitting abs too much, 3x/wk

I been doing pullups on the swingset outside and incline pushups for upper chest + situps thats about it 3x week to failure and beyond 2-3x times w/a preworkout

heres the plan, we get gym membership and overcompensate for mild pectus with upper chest for huge tits and delts to widen out the 17inch bidelt.

also eventually working up to 2g/gear and 10iu hgh + a few epigenetic modulators to max framewidening and spinal appositional thickening (roughly 18-24) in men.

Think controlled acromegaly.

Crux of cycle will be test base, nandrolone, and tren.

Thats all boys. Best wishes, good luck. <<<3

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How long do you plan on using Infigratinib for total?

 

[MindOfBeni]

I am on more stuff than you and don't get the results as you

 

[Sachlichkeit]

I am on more stuff than you and don't get the results as you

u better dial in lad
500 test 100 nand day 51/90
pushups at grandmas house
workout split is
1 warmup (8reps)
1 working set (8reps,) close to failure via more weight or slower eccentric lowering,
1 to failure, 1 drop set
then ill just spam failure over and over again depending on how I feel. U gotta be careful I blew out my CNS and showed up at work basically half dead I felt physically retarded
pike and incline pushups, situps, pullups and underarm pullups. Just started doing chair dips

Half my physique is in my legs which I haven't been training unfortunately so I gotta start doing that next cycle im gonna pop out in my underwear like tom platz

could be worse man u could be blasting grams like @whitebitchslayer and have zero results