A Response To All "High T Users" And "Roiders"

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This is for the Humanimals who wished to annoy me. You will join my ignore list after this. @Jonas @chadmadebeing @trenace450 @Iraniancel

Part One: You are but a mistake to biology.

You pump synthetic hormones into your body, chasing a mirage. You worship testosterone like a pagan idol, kneeling at its altar of temporary strength, as though sheer chemical excess can rewrite the unchangeable word your DNA whispered at your conception. You are not enough. So you inject, you pump, you lift and you obsess. Yet it is never ever enough is it? Your chemical armor crumbles each night, in silent darkness. Your veins, filled with synthetic strength, do nothing to silence the voice inside you, the one that knows the truth. Nature chose long ago who would lead, who would breed, who would be admired. It is written in the face, the bone, the subtle codes of genetic destiny. Your vial of steroids is not a weapon, it’s anesthesia for the mind.

You convince yourself that your swollen body will bring admiration, respect, love. Yet it only really attracts the other shallow little humanimals, who dream on temporary illusions. The so called other roid users do not want you either. they want your chemical mask. And when that mask falls—and it always falls—you will be discarded faster than the needle you use to inject false dreams into your veins. All this talk of “high T” as if it grants meaning or purpose is your ultimate cope, your desperate final stand against reality. Steroids are not your ally, they are your undertaker. They dig your grave slowly whilst destroying your organs, your mind, and your authentic self. They make you powerful today, empty tomorrow. Yet the funniest thing about this, no no no tragic thing is how much you remind me of a another group of hormone consuming failures.

Part Two: You are just like them, the trannies jfl.

The so-called “based masculine ideal,” are no different from those you ridicule. You point at trans people. You mock their transition, their hormones, their surgeries. Yet you are the mirror. They inject estrogen to feel whole. You inject testosterone to feel worthy. They alter their bodies to match a mental image. So do you. They wear a new skin to escape biology. So do you. You mutilate yourselves in the name of an imagined self. Just like them. You are two halves of the same delusion—rejecting your natural form, rebelling against the decree of nature that whispered your insignificance. The only real difference is your costume and the flag you wave while you inject. So call them degenerates if you wish. Laugh at the trans woman with her pills and scalpel scars.

But know this: When you stand shirtless in the mirror, veins bulging with lab-grown pride, hair receding from chemical imbalance, nipples swollen from gyno, balls shrunk to the size of cowardice—you are her. You just worship a different god. You mutilated your temple too—only yours is decorated with the altar of "alpha."
But neither of you were ever meant to be what you desire.

Part 3: The Health "Benefits" of your drugs.

You are not red pilled, blackpilled, kino or let alone masculine. You are an altered oversized lab rat. You are a man shaped void, screaming into the blackness, begging biology to take you seriously. Within your obsession to become a god amongst, you became less than a man. Here’s the cold truth, your body means nothing if your mind is a slave to chemicals. You’ve chained yourself to an illusion, a hormonal phantom you cannot ever catch. Your identity became your blood serum level, your ego reduced to chemical peaks and troughs. You chase strength. You chase virility. You chase validation but every cycle leaves you weaker, more hollow, less human. You become a high-testosterone ghost, a man who died inside but forgot to tell his body.

Enjoy your injections. Enjoy your lie. Whilst your heart beats its final strained beat, remember. Nature never lied. You did. (PS Here is some research under this)

Human Chorionic Gonadotropin.
-Can trigger gynecomastia by boosting estrogen levels.
-Rare but serious: blood clots, including deep vein thrombosis or pulmonary embolism.
-Pain, redness, swelling, or irritation at the injection site.
-Rare allergic/anaphylactic responses reported.
-Bloating, nausea, upset stomach, diarrhea.
-Fatigue, headaches, mood disturbances.
-Unproven for weight loss; associated with dangerous very‑low‑calorie diet regimens (gallstones, electrolyte imbalance, arrhythmia)
-May worsen existing prostate cancer due to increased androgen promotion.

Dutasteride.
-Erectile dysfunction and decreased libido occur in roughly 9% of users; ejaculatory issues and reduced semen volume are not uncommon.
-Rare gynaecomastia (~1–2%); can include tenderness or enlargement of male breast tissue.
-Increased risk of depression and thoughts of self-harm have been noted within the first 18 months of treatment.
-EMA is investigating possible links to suicidal thoughts, primarily based on evidence from similar drugs.
-Reports suggest associations with non-alcoholic fatty liver disease (NAFLD), insulin resistance, type 2 diabetes, dry eye disease, and kidney dysfunction.
-Though dutasteride suppresses prostate growth, it could potentially mask rising PSA levels, delaying aggressive prostate cancer detection and thus increasing cancer risk.
-The FDA includes a boxed warning about possible increased risk of high-grade prostate cancer.

 
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JFL we can debunk every claim here @chadbeingmade @trenace450

Human Chorionic Gonadotropin.
-Can trigger gynecomastia by boosting estrogen levels.
If you get high E2 symptoms from HCG you have subhuman genetics literally. Apart from that you can just deploy an AI.

All other points are laughable, muh injection pain and swelling. :feelskek:
Dutasteride.
-Erectile dysfunction and decreased libido occur in roughly 9% of users; ejaculatory issues and reduced semen volume are not uncommon.
There is always finasteride you can use as a natty.

Apart from that most individuals that don't fearmonger the fuck out of themselves don't get any problems.
-Rare gynaecomastia (~1–2%); can include tenderness or enlargement of male breast tissue.
The same with HCG, if you have subhumanly high E2 just use an AI.

For more info about dutasteride just read this thread.

JFL at your IQ TBH, best case of dunning kruger.

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Doesn't know anything and proceeds to cite many sources to prove invalid points.
 
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DNR
What's HCG and dutasteride?
 
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Dnr low T
 
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JFL we can debunk every claim here @chadbeingmade @trenace450
Read the bottom :lul::lul::lul:
Dude just listed some side effects he found on wikipedia and healthline.com actual cagefuel
 
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Read the bottom :lul::lul::lul:
Dude just listed some side effects he found on wikipedia and healthline.com actual cagefuel
If you are wanting to prove it is wrong, then go on.
 
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Not a single valid point was mentioned. None of these are even problems to begin with because you won’t get a single one of them if you aren’t stupid as shit.
 
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Not a single valid point was mentioned. None of these were even problems to begin with.
Well keep coping then. Reality and nature have a nice way of waking up the deluded bluepillers.
 
not a molecule

transhumanism is awesome and people who don't roid are either a) low iq b) poor (low iq)
 
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dnr transhumanism is awesome and people who don't roid are either a) low iq b) poor (low iq)
Only the genetically weak do such things.
 
It doesnt matter how you found the pot of gold, all that matters is that you beat the leprechauns
 
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they just let anyone post nowadays

are you real

we need an IQ screening/post filtering. Cant with these dumbass users posting word vomit
 
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Yet 95 percent will not.
Depends on your motivation for roiding.

I personally do it get a peak natty looking physique and maintain it spending as little time as possible in the gym.

Others may use it as a coping mechanism for the sense of lack regarding size and masculinity. Id like to think Im more pragmatic about it
 
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they just let anyone post nowadays

are you real

we need an IQ screening/post filtering. Cant with these dumbass users posting word vomit
Go back to molesting zagro.
 
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Depends on your motivation for roiding.

I personally do it get a peak natty looking physique and maintain it spending as little time as possible in the gym.

Others may use it as a coping mechanism for the sense of lack regarding size and masculinity. Id like to think Im more pragmatic about it
Yet what is the purpose? I guess if you want to be strong, even then just working hard will make you strong naturally.
 
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-Can trigger gynecomastia by boosting estrogen levels.
Yeah obviously, it increases testosterone you retard. Testosterone itself can trigger gyno, this is why we use DHT derivatives to combat estrogenic effects or aromatase inhibitors. Nice try tho
-Rare but serious: blood clots, including deep vein thrombosis or pulmonary embolism.
In the same fucking article you cited, they literally say this "A small 2019 study concluded that hCG was safe and effective for MAABs who experience the symptoms of hypogonadism but have testosterone levels above 300 ng/dL. Testosterone levels above 300 ng/dL are widely considered normal."
THE SAME ARTICLE YOU CITED SAYS HCG IS SAFE AND EFFECTIVE :lul::lul:
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Also you cited "Avoid dangerous HCG diet products" you absolute monkey. HCG is not a diet product and nobody uses whatever diet products they are referring to.

And i shouldn't even have to mention this, but HCG is LITERALLY produced naturally. You're so low iq you didn't even bother to figure that out.

-Erectile dysfunction and decreased libido occur in roughly 9% of users; ejaculatory issues and reduced semen volume are not uncommon.
Yeah we're on testosterone, we don't care dumbass. You literally have 0 knowledge of biology whatsoever
-EMA is investigating possible links to suicidal thoughts, primarily based on evidence from similar drugs.
EMA might be investigating water for causing fucking cancer, doesn't mean it means anything. Why did you even say this wtf??? And still, we are on testosterone, we do not run the risk of demasculinizing side effects
-Reports suggest associations with non-alcoholic fatty liver disease (NAFLD), insulin resistance, type 2 diabetes, dry eye disease, and kidney dysfunction.
First off associations don't mean as much as you think it does. We want mechanisms. Why does dutasteride cause side effects mechanistically? 99% of the sides are due to decreased androgenic effects in natural males. Second off, even if it did cause NAFLD and insulin resistance, that will not happen if you are keeping yourself lean or just using any GLP-1 agonist. You probably don't even know what that means so why do i bother jfl


Funniest part is, you cited a SINGLE pubmed study which is actually relevant. Everything else was wikipedia, articles and a fucking youtube video. Keep coping
 
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JFL we can debunk every claim here @chadbeingmade @trenace450


If you get high E2 symptoms from HCG you have subhuman genetics literally. Apart from that you can just deploy an AI.

All other points are laughable, muh injection pain and swelling. :feelskek:

There is always finasteride you can use as a natty.

Apart from that most individuals that don't fearmonger the fuck out of themselves don't get any problems.

The same with HCG, if you have subhumanly high E2 just use an AI.

For more info about dutasteride just read this thread.

JFL at your IQ TBH, best case of dunning kruger.

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Doesn't know anything and proceeds to cite many sources to prove invalid points.
why even waste your breath on someone who has 0 knowledge?

people like this need to learn on their own. Let this retard die old and small
 
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Yeah obviously, it increases testosterone you retard. Testosterone itself can trigger gyno, this is why we use DHT derivatives to combat estrogenic effects or aromatase inhibitors. Nice try tho

In the same fucking article you cited, they literally say this "A small 2019 study concluded that hCG was safe and effective for MAABs who experience the symptoms of hypogonadism but have testosterone levels above 300 ng/dL. Testosterone levels above 300 ng/dL are widely considered normal."
THE SAME ARTICLE YOU CITED SAYS HCG IS SAFE AND EFFECTIVE :lul::lul:
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Also you cited "Avoid dangerous HCG diet products" you absolute monkey. HCG is not a diet product and nobody uses whatever diet products they are referring to.

And i shouldn't even have to mention this, but HCG is LITERALLY produced naturally. You're so low iq you didn't even bother to figure that out.


Yeah we're on testosterone, we don't care dumbass. You literally have 0 knowledge of biology whatsoever

EMA might be investigating water for causing fucking cancer, doesn't mean it means anything. Why did you even say this wtf??? And still, we are on testosterone, we do not run the risk of demasculinizing side effects

First off associations don't mean as much as you think it does. We want mechanisms. Why does dutasteride cause side effects mechanistically? 99% of the sides are due to decreased androgenic effects in natural males. Second off, even if it did cause NAFLD and insulin resistance, that will not happen if you are keeping yourself lean or just using any GLP-1 agonist. You probably don't even know what that means so why do i bother jfl


Funniest part is, you cited a SINGLE pubmed study which is actually relevant. Everything else was wikipedia, articles and a fucking youtube video. Keep coping
Yet again. What has it done for you? If you are willing to disprove me, retort with resources of your own.
 
why even waste your breath on someone who has 0 knowledge?

people like this need to learn on their own. Let this retard die old and small
I will enjoy outliving you. Not even enjoy, you are nothing. Why be offended by nothing.
 
Only the genetically weak do such things.
There's nothing genetically weak about artificial enhancements, and if you're naive enough to fall for steroid fear mongering then that says a lot more about your genes than the 'genetically weak' roiders.

People like you would've clowned cavemen for 'artificially enhancing' themselves with clothing only to die of frost bite.
 
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@Mainlander Want a good laugh? Read these users. The never ending river of coping.
 
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Yet what is the purpose? I guess if you want to be strong, even then just working hard will make you strong naturally.
Looksmaxxing is my hobby. I want to look good. Roiding is extremely high ROI if done right

Its a hobby mostly driven by ego though. But whats really wrong with that? Every sport and multiplayer videogame is the same.

There will always be ups and downs and how is feeling shit about your looks any different to a gamer raging after losing a game or an athlete feeling useless after missing a goal
 
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There's nothing genetically weak about artificial enhancements, and if you're naive enough to fall for steroid fear mongering then that says a lot more about your genes than the 'genetically weak' roiders.

People like you would've clowned cavemen for 'artificially enhancing' themselves with clothing only to die of frost bite.
Oh no no. I am all for eugenics. Just not pointless drugs made for desperate men. You do not even know what they stuff into those medications. It is literally just waste,
Looksmaxxing is my hobby. I want to look good. Roiding is extremely high ROI if done right

Its a hobby mostly driven by ego though. But whats really wrong with that? Every sport and multiplayer videogame is the same.

There will always be ups and downs and how is feeling shit about your looks any different to a gamer raging after losing a game
Good point. Yet in the end. People looksmax only to be seen, to be liked and loved.
 
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Not a single valid point was mentioned. None of these are even problems to begin with because you won’t get a single one of them if you aren’t stupid as shit.
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@InanimatePragmatist you retard it is so fucking laughable, you are so desperate to try to win the argument that you resorted to copy paste wikipedia articles.
not a molecule

transhumanism is awesome and people who don't roid are either a) low iq b) poor (low iq)
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He is so ignorant, now he tries to argue that it works, but only the "genetically weak" will try to ascend with pharmacology.
I guess if you want to be strong, even then just working hard will make you strong naturally.
You exposed yourself again. Again, there is no reason to not be natty.

Being "natty" is a social construct without any deeper value.

It is literally just a concept made up by normies, there is no reason to fucking listen to them.
why even waste your breath on someone who has 0 knowledge?

people like this need to learn on their own. Let this retard die old and small
He is just ragebaiting at this point. Haven't seen anything so retarded in a few days.
 
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I will enjoy outliving you. Not even enjoy, you are nothing. Why be offended by nothing.
suppose thats true, whats there to outlive?

youre stuck in that incel body for 5 more years
Only the genetically weak do such things.
cant make this up

so you believe we're supposed so sit and accept genetic conditions given to us? are you a woman?

gynocentric faggots piss me off
 
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@InanimatePragmatist you retard it is so fucking laughable, you are so desperate to try to win the argument that you resorted to copy paste wikipedia articles.

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He is so ignorant, now he tries to argue that it works, but only the "genetically weak" will try to ascend with pharmacology.

You exposed yourself again. Again, there is no reason to not be natty.

Being "natty" is a social construct without any deeper value.

It is literally just a concept made up by normies, there is no reason to fucking listen to them.

He is just ragebaiting at this point. Haven't seen anything so retarded in a few days.
Were it so easy humanimal.
 
Yet again. What has it done for you? If you are willing to disprove me, retort with resources of your own.
What are you talking about, i have to provide a resource that disproves your retarded claims? I literally just explained it all to you, the problems you mentioned are irrelevant and can easily be mitigated. I can't give you a resource that disproves a false claim retard
 
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What are you talking about, i have to provide a resource that disproves your retarded claims? I literally just explained it all to you, the problems you mentioned are irrelevant and can easily be mitigated. I can't give you a resource that disproves a false claim retard
Then go on. Post it.
 
caging at this incel retard thinking hes some wise philosopher for not roiding lmao😂

what is your slaycount you ugly subhuman?
 
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caging at this incel retard thinking hes some wise philosopher for not roiding lmao😂

what is your slaycount you ugly subhuman?
Yes yes. Slaying. Is that all you have on your mind? On how many whores you can numb your mind on? You lack connection to reality.
 
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congrats for the worst thread in 2025

i only put one person on my ignore list per year. You've been chosen for 2025 year, it took 6 months but i finally found shittest user so far
 
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Why has everyone come to try prove this one singular retard wrong?

He hasn’t done any research. He just went to healthline and found “side effects of steroids”. He can do research for himself. Any molecule of research as he will be able to deduce it is a looksmax and roiding is indeed beneficial and that all the side effects he mentioned aren’t even problems due to how easily mitigated all of them are.

Everyone else will reap the benefits of roids, dutasteride etc. Meanwhile you do nothing and continue to look like utter dogshit.

@Jonasㅤㅤ @trenace450
 
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@InanimatePragmatist you retard it is so fucking laughable, you are so desperate to try to win the argument that you resorted to copy paste wikipedia articles.

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He is so ignorant, now he tries to argue that it works, but only the "genetically weak" will try to ascend with pharmacology.

You exposed yourself again. Again, there is no reason to not be natty.

Being "natty" is a social construct without any deeper value.

It is literally just a concept made up by normies, there is no reason to fucking listen to them.

He is just ragebaiting at this point. Haven't seen anything so retarded in a few days.
I'm convinced that he already realized he's in the wrong, but just won't concede that he doesn't know shit about roids, because then his goofy philosopher dunning kruger type of act fails
 
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This is what I like so much about you lot. You tell me I am wrong yet you prove no documents, long term statistics or anything. Well nature has a way of weeding out the weak.
Everyone else will reap the benefits of roids, dutasteride etc. Meanwhile you do nothing and continue to look like utter dogshit.

@incel @Jonasㅤㅤ @trenace450
Well, show your face then.
 
I'm convinced that he already realized he's in the wrong, but just won't concede that he doesn't know shit about roids, because then his goofy philosopher dunning kruger type of act fails
Says the aryanist himself. I wonder what would Himmler think of his ubermensch taking all sorts of drugs for attention of all things.
 
This is what I like so much about you lot. You tell me I am wrong yet you prove no documents, long term statistics or anything. Well nature has a way of weeding out the weak.

Well, show your face then.
go read my profile
 
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holy cope

or ragebait

negative iq post either way
 
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Yet still. I do not understand this. If you are all so succesful, so high T, so powerful. Why are you here? It would not make sense for the ice cream vender to brag about his icecream. Unless if he never had any.
 
Says the aryanist himself. I wonder what would Himmler think of his ubermensch taking all sorts of drugs for attention of all things.
You realize the nazis literally used methamphetamine for their soldiers in blitzkrieg to increase alertness and lower fatigue? You have to be ragebaiting, there's no way someone can be this dumb
 
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You realize the nazis literally used methamphetamine for their soldiers in blitzkrieg to increase alertness and lower fatigue? You have to be ragebaiting, there's no way someone can be this dumb
That was for on field results. Not for a lonely man to prove his worth long after the empire is gone. You really believe in fascism do you not?
 
Why has everyone come to try prove this one singular retard wrong?

He hasn’t done any research. He just went to healthline and found “side effects of steroids”. He can do research for himself. Any molecule of research as he will be able to deduce it is a looksmax and roiding is indeed beneficial and that all the side effects he mentioned aren’t even problems due to how easily mitigated all of them are.

Everyone else will reap the benefits of roids, dutasteride etc. Meanwhile you do nothing and continue to look like utter dogshit.

@Jonasㅤㅤ @trenace450
Unbelievable performance boyz
@Jonasㅤㅤ @chadbeingmade
Morgan Freeman Applause GIF by The Academy Awards
 
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Yet still. I do not understand this. If you are all so succesful, so high T, so powerful. Why are you here?
Because we never fucking claimed it would turn you into a true adam gigachad dumb fuck. All we are saying is, being enhanced is better than being natural and the pros outweigh the cons. That's literally all we're claiming
 
The nazis used drugs to enhance their soldiers, you claimed Himmler would be against performance enhancement dumbass.

I believe you are a retard actually
Read english. I said he would be real happy about YOU. Not his soldiers.
You think Himmler let his men take such drugs out of care? No no, it is only for the canon fodder to do better killing.
 
Because we never fucking claimed it would turn you into a true adam gigachad dumb fuck. All we are saying is, being enhanced is better than being natural and the pros outweigh the cons. That's literally all we're claiming
A lot of you sure act like gods among men. Now shut up. I wish to not speak with a humanimal.
 

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