A Short Philosophical Writing of mine

[imontheloose]

I think that even if we discover things in physics like quantum events that appear random it could still be the case that we simply dont understand what determines them yet


Maybe our current physics isnt advanced enough or perhaps the determining causes exist in a dimension that is beyond our reach

Perhaps, but from what we can theoretically see, there is a form of determined randomness. It’s just not guaranteed in the sense that I can bet my life on it not being the 0.0000000000000000000001% it deviates from the prediction.

 

[imontheloose]

There are deterministic interpretations of quantum mechanics (Everett’s interpretation, Pilot wave theory) etc

We really don’t know what the hell is going on in quantum mechanics

We may never know

It’s easily the most mysterious branch in physics

Even the fundamental concept of QM, superposition isn’t well understood

Is the particle a literal wave before the collapse? Is it literally in two places at once?

We really don’t know

It’s exceedingly mysterious. I mean, have you saw the books on it in any library? It is ludicrous how they discover this stuff.

 

[User28823]

then tell me how arises your free will in that situation if its not because of a cause or randomness

my own mind, my own conscious - even if shaped by previous experiences, is still the author

 

[Latinolooksmaxxer]

free will means just that my bro, brain impulses not strongly influenced by someone else's threats of violence

free will isnt random will but i agree thats kind of a woobly concept, it mostly boils down to a legal / law / judicial construct to frame people for crimes or civil liability

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

It’s exceedingly mysterious. I mean, have you saw the books on it in any library? It is ludicrous how they discover this stuff.

QM is just so insanely crazy

And it’s interesting how the further you go in physics the more abstract it becomes

In mechanics concepts like vectors can easily be used and intuitively understood to represent say a balls velocity

But in QM there are all these weird abstract quantities like spin, symmetries etc which there really isn’t an intuitive way to explain.

 

[Latinolooksmaxxer]

free will:

 

[Mainlander]

free will means just that my bro, brain impulses

free will isnt random will

yeah but for some reason people still believe that you have some form of god like consciousness that can outsmart the laws of this universe and with that you are the only thing that has a free will

giga cope

will is just cause cause cause

but good to see that you get it

 

[Klasik616]

I think that even if we discover things in physics like quantum events that appear random it could still be the case that we simply dont understand what determines them yet


Maybe our current physics isnt advanced enough or perhaps the determining causes exist in a dimension that is beyond our reach

The thing we should ask is: is the mind cappable of being 1:1 to reality. Because if human brains were the same mind as God, we should already know everything and science would be progressive but sciences are even more divided today than they were in the old age. Our language is trying to figure out reality with all their tools, by "reality" I mean anything we know as truth but truths depend on axioms that are common sense accepted by almost everyone. Determinism and free will are not things found on reality, they are "regulative ideas" given to support what we know (like cause and effect). God is the idea of a creator, we never saw God or creation it's only a logical entity made by common sense. God will never be proved by senses.

 

[Mainlander]

my own mind, my own conscious - even if shaped by previous experiences, is still the author

you are such a low iq coper its insane


my own conscious

Saying “my own mind is the author” ignores how the brain actually works

Your conscious mind is nothing more than the result of neurons firing and chemicals reacting in your brain


These processes are all caused by geneticspast experiences, environmentthings you didnt choose

Your feelings of making a decision come from complex brain activity but that activity is itself determined by prior causes

Chemicals like dopamine influence what you want and how you fee shaping your choices before youre even aware of them

 

[Mainlander]

The thing we should ask is: is the mind cappable of being 1:1 to reality. Because if human brains were the same mind as God, we should already know everything and science would be progressive but sciences are even more divided today than they were in the old age. Our language is trying to figure out reality with all their tools, by "reality" I mean anything we know as truth but truths depend on axioms that are common sense accepted by almost everyone.

thats what i mean in some form

"Maybe our current physics isnt advanced enough or perhaps the determining causes exist in a dimension that is beyond our reach"

We simply dont know

But in that case it doesnt matter

what matters it what humans see and feel

 

[imontheloose]

QM is just so insanely crazy

And it’s interesting how the further you go in physics the more abstract it becomes

In mechanics concepts like vectors can easily be used and intuitively understood to represent say a balls velocity

But in QM there are all these weird abstract quantities like spin, symmetries etc which there really isn’t an intuitive way to explain.

The stuff I’ll do as a post-grad doing my MEng will still be barely touching the surface of these modern physical problems. I know people who have MScs in theoretical physics and it’s honestly baffling. It is absolutely evident that humans did not evolve to solve these intricate matters.

 

[Klasik616]

thats what i mean in some form

"Maybe our current physics isnt advanced enough or perhaps the determining causes exist in a dimension that is beyond our reach"

We simply dont know

But in that case it doesnt matter

what matters it what humans see and feel

Do you agree with solipsism? I do.

 

[Mainlander]

Do you agree with solipsism? I am

There is no prove that it couldnt be true

 

[Klasik616]

There is no prove that it couldnt be true

I've read certain books and modern philosophers struggle with philosophical social concepts. For example "intersubjectivity". I think there's only the individual and his mind, and I learn about "others" like we learn how someone is by a first impression but that's never how the other actually feels about himself. There's an impossibility of sharing thoughts, so "the world" is limited by your understanding and will never be complete (epistemologic pessimism).

 

[User28823]

you are such a low iq coper its insane


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Saying “my own mind is the author” ignores how the brain actually works

Your conscious mind is nothing more than the result of neurons firing and chemicals reacting in your brain


These processes are all caused by geneticspast experiences, environmentthings you didnt choose

Your feelings of making a decision come from complex brain activity but that activity is itself determined by prior causes

Chemicals like dopamine influence what you want and how you fee shaping your choices before youre even aware of them

incredible, seems like u have solved the mystery that is the consciousness

harvard sent a taxi

 

[Mainlander]

incredible, seems like u have solved the mystery that is the consciousness

harvard sent a taxi

someone had to explain these basics to you innit

 

[User28823]

someone had to explain these basics to you innit

i mean this is breaking news...

.org member solves consciousness

have u been interviewed for nobel prize yet ?

 

[Mainlander]

i mean this is breaking news...

.org member solves consciousness

have u been interviewed for nobel prize yet ?

im pretermined to not answer this question

 

[User28823]

im pretermined to not answer this question

but u just chose not to

 

[Mainlander]

but u just chose not to

yeah and that choice was predetermined

 

[User28823]

yeah and that choice was predetermined

no it wasnt

 

[Mainlander]

no it wasnt

im the cause that you are writing this btw

not free will

i have influenced your will

 

[User28823]

im the cause that you are writing this btw

not free will

i have influenced your will

i chose to write this reply