A surefire way to tell whether your physique appeals to the male or female gaze more

[Prettyboy]

Is to notice what guys and girls say when they notice it.

If they overwhelmingly ask things that are associated with bodybuilding, like
“Are you a bodybuilder”
“Are you on a diet / do you only eat chicken - rice”
“How much do you bench”

You are seen as a tryhard and mostly appeal to the male gaze, probably you are too buff

While if you get remarks like
“What sport do you play”
“Are you competitive in x y sport”
anything pointing towards you just doing some sport and being athletic, chances are people think you are genetically fit, you appeal to the female gaze.

Being associated with bodybuilding is tryhard, while looking athletic is envyable. You want people to think you do athletics, some combat sport, a team sport or perhaps swimming, even if you don’t.

Being lean with some muscles is life, you need to look like a good hunter, like males were supposed to be.

Strength training + sprinting + lots of cardio = ideal male physique

 

[Deleted member 17829]

its really ideal to have a normal bideltoid no vtaper and just some muscle while lean?

 

[StuffedFrog]

preach you dont even need to run swimming is way better
also should i mma max to bro

 

[StuffedFrog]

its really ideal to have a normal bideltoid no vtaper and just some muscle while lean?

um no

 

[Mongrelcel]

“Are you competitive in x y sport”

"yeah I play ping pong"

 

[Prettyboy]

preach you dont even need to run swimming is way better
also should i mma max to bro

Running is second nature to man
We are bipedal and can sweat very good unlike most animals , we were meant to outrun everyone else

 

[PapaGremlin]

 

[StuffedFrog]

Running is second nature to man
We are bipedal and can sweat very good unlike most animals , we were meant to outrun everyone else

true but swimming also develops musle and bones i think if you dislike running swimming is the go to option but sucks that you cant listen to music while swimming

 

[StuffedFrog]

was a part of wrestling team then lifted heavy high intensity low reps for most of my training without even doing accessories on and off
the things he said are pretty true
but you really have to focus on the back, shoulders, arms , chest

 

[Looks234]

Every tall natural gymmaxxed guy will always have female gaze appeal just because of how hard it is to get big while tall.

 

[fogdart]

Is to notice what guys and girls say when they notice it.

If they overwhelmingly ask things that are associated with bodybuilding, like
“Are you a bodybuilder”
“Are you on a diet / do you only eat chicken - rice”
“How much do you bench”

You are seen as a tryhard and mostly appeal to the male gaze, probably you are too buff

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While if you get remarks like
“What sport do you play”
“Are you competitive in x y sport”
anything pointing towards you just doing some sport and being athletic, chances are people think you are genetically fit, you appeal to the female gaze.

Being associated with bodybuilding is tryhard, while looking athletic is envyable. You want people to think you do athletics, some combat sport, a team sport or perhaps swimming, even if you don’t.

Being lean with some muscles is life, you need to look like a good hunter, like males were supposed to be.

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Strength training + sprinting + lots of cardio = ideal male physique

As a BBC natty gymcel, I get asked which sport I play a lot. Most people assume I play football (NFL for the UKcels)

 

[eyes]

Is to notice what guys and girls say when they notice it.

If they overwhelmingly ask things that are associated with bodybuilding, like
“Are you a bodybuilder”
“Are you on a diet / do you only eat chicken - rice”
“How much do you bench”

You are seen as a tryhard and mostly appeal to the male gaze, probably you are too buff


While if you get remarks like
“What sport do you play”
“Are you competitive in x y sport”
anything pointing towards you just doing some sport and being athletic, chances are people think you are genetically fit, you appeal to the female gaze.

Being associated with bodybuilding is tryhard, while looking athletic is envyable. You want people to think you do athletics, some combat sport, a team sport or perhaps swimming, even if you don’t.

Being lean with some muscles is life, you need to look like a good hunter, like males were supposed to be.

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Strength training + sprinting + lots of cardio = ideal male physique

True af. Shredded athlete physique is ideal.



But at some occasions/ parties when I get my shirt off, some salty or whatsoever girls approach me out like "Did you hit the gym before you came here?" stuff, although I didn't & I'm not big at all (Similar physique to yours with a bit more body fat, same height.)

I tell them that I do martial arts, which I did in the past but not now at the moment. Adds respect & interest for both genders.




What is your opinion on Trevor Signorino's physique? Is it ideal?

 

[edodalic29]

I literally look DYEL if i cut out strength training . Its a lookism for me . Its different for everyone i guess

 

[sub5inchcel]

female gaze is classic bodybuilder type of physique like frank zane, not too huge, chest isnt too big and wide everything

 

[bigjuicy]

face and lms

 

[Deleted member 8869]

Is to notice what guys and girls say when they notice it.

If they overwhelmingly ask things that are associated with bodybuilding, like
“Are you a bodybuilder”
“Are you on a diet / do you only eat chicken - rice”
“How much do you bench”

You are seen as a tryhard and mostly appeal to the male gaze, probably you are too buff

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While if you get remarks like
“What sport do you play”
“Are you competitive in x y sport”
anything pointing towards you just doing some sport and being athletic, chances are people think you are genetically fit, you appeal to the female gaze.

Being associated with bodybuilding is tryhard, while looking athletic is envyable. You want people to think you do athletics, some combat sport, a team sport or perhaps swimming, even if you don’t.

Being lean with some muscles is life, you need to look like a good hunter, like males were supposed to be.

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Strength training + sprinting + lots of cardio = ideal male physique

pic just demonstrates no body for face and hairline

 

[exeight]

Is to notice what guys and girls say when they notice it.

If they overwhelmingly ask things that are associated with bodybuilding, like
“Are you a bodybuilder”
“Are you on a diet / do you only eat chicken - rice”
“How much do you bench”

You are seen as a tryhard and mostly appeal to the male gaze, probably you are too buff

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While if you get remarks like
“What sport do you play”
“Are you competitive in x y sport”
anything pointing towards you just doing some sport and being athletic, chances are people think you are genetically fit, you appeal to the female gaze.

Being associated with bodybuilding is tryhard, while looking athletic is envyable. You want people to think you do athletics, some combat sport, a team sport or perhaps swimming, even if you don’t.

Being lean with some muscles is life, you need to look like a good hunter, like males were supposed to be.

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Strength training + sprinting + lots of cardio = ideal male physique

its completely true.
This is my Thread about this topic

Girls desire a man with an athletic physique.. because its appeals the most natural and healthy
body builder is too extreme and because of that, its like unnormal = not good for offspring genes

fat = unhealthy = no attraction = not sexy
too skinny = unhealthy = no attraction = not sexy
too muscular = unhealthy = no attraction = not sexy

athletic (low body fat and a lil bit muscle) = healthy = attraction = sexy.

We all humans are controlled by our subconcious and our subconcious (instinct) decide, which person we find attractive/sexy and which not.

when a girl looking at you, and if you are athletic, her subconcious send a signal to her concious with "he is healthy enough to pass good genes to offspring" and her concious translate this to "fuck, i find him very attractive and im wet, i wanna fuck him"

thats the whole story

The most attractive male body-fat percentage: is it possible to be too lean?

Hi guys i wanna share with you this study and i think its legit YES muscles are a huge looksmaxxing! but you dont need muscles like arnold schwarzennigger.. its too much and it will make you less sexy.... the best you can do; be LEAN and have decent muscles.... thats it! here the study...

looksmax.org

 

[Lars]

True that, in one year you can already achieve a good body

 

[raystar66]

I get your message but usain bolt or whoever that sprinter is, isn't the ideal physique.

I think this physique mogs that sprinters and majority of girls would prefer this

 

[6.5PSL]

100%. Stupid men believe their disgusting huge physique is going to get the ladies going. Nope. Not even close.

 

[germanlooks]

Will look like he doesn’t lift in a T-shirt and without pump.

Ideal for actual body halo is something like David Laid, Trevor Signorino, Jeff seid.

Women who say that this is too much are lying anyways. They will get wet at the sight of a body like this.

In general the main thing that matters is looking aesthetic: V taper, good insertions etc. Combine this with a good amount of size and mass and you will have a giga mogger physique like the ones above

 

[YKZ]

Extremes are never good; most people can't even get to the level you're speaking of or in either of the pictures you gave. In general, your shoulder-to-hip ratio, muscle insertions plus size, and leanness will determine how much your body appeals to women.

 

[Going2KillMyself]

On one hand ur right

On the other, something like 90% of dudes will never look too muscular cuz shit genetics

 

[ItsOverCel]

Will look like he doesn’t lift in a T-shirt and without pump.

Ideal for actual body halo is something like David Laid, Trevor Signorino, Jeff seid.
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Women who say that this is too much are lying anyways. They will get wet at the sight of a body like this.

In general the main thing that matters is looking aesthetic: V taper, good insertions etc. Combine this with a good amount of size and mass and you will have a giga mogger physique like the ones above

do you think laid looks not dyel??? jfl at laid fanboys

 

[germanlooks]

do you think laid looks not dyel??? jfl at laid fanboys

Jfl at calling me fanboy you fag.
He doesn’t look dyel next to the average man. And as I said above the main thing that matters are aesthetics anywways. And with tighter fitting clothing he looks definitely like he lifts

 

[Moggedbyevery1]

Jfl at calling me fanboy you fag.
He doesn’t look dyel next to the average man. And as I said above the main thing that matters are aesthetics anywways. And with tighter fitting clothing he looks definitely like he lifts

Where did u go

 

[Lars]

Will look like he doesn’t lift in a T-shirt and without pump.

Ideal for actual body halo is something like David Laid, Trevor Signorino, Jeff seid.
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Women who say that this is too much are lying anyways. They will get wet at the sight of a body like this.

In general the main thing that matters is looking aesthetic: V taper, good insertions etc. Combine this with a good amount of size and mass and you will have a giga mogger physique like the ones above

you cant look like that without roids

 

[bwrauycnee]

you cant look like that without roids

Laid and Trevor look pretty natural

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

what if I haven't talked to a normie in several years

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

great poster very helpful threads

Running is second nature to man
We are bipedal and can sweat very good unlike most animals , we were meant to outrun everyone else

humans are subpar at sprinting (low top speed, high energy expenditure) but jogging is the second most energy efficient means of transportation after horses at the same time jogging leads to subhuman physique while sprinting leads to ideal physique

 

[Dodevu]

do you think laid looks not dyel??? jfl at laid fanboys

He is lean as fuk and doesn’t dirty bulk with his jawline and zygos popping through his head, the guy that made that video is jealous as Fuk…

Of course he could look a lot bigger by bulking but why ruin his facial aesthetics?

 

[Deleted member 19499]

its really ideal to have a normal bideltoid no vtaper and just some muscle while lean?

No, you want a superman v-taper which is why Frame > Muscles

 

[Deleted member 16058]

Will look like he doesn’t lift in a T-shirt and without pump.

Ideal for actual body halo is something like David Laid, Trevor Signorino, Jeff seid.
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Women who say that this is too much are lying anyways. They will get wet at the sight of a body like this.

In general the main thing that matters is looking aesthetic: V taper, good insertions etc. Combine this with a good amount of size and mass and you will have a giga mogger physique like the ones above

but wouldn't this be hard to maintain?

even the picture that op provided mogs 95% of todays men.

 

[Blackgymmax]

dunno, im somewhere in the middle. Right before getting too big. just enough to look moderately big in a shirt but like not too big where im a freak. Im like on the border of the natty limit

 

[Deleted member 17448]

Running is second nature to man
We are bipedal and can sweat very good unlike most animals , we were meant to outrun everyone else

Not really. We were meant to outwalk everyone. But overall good post.

 

[Lars]

Laid and Trevor look pretty natural

 

[germanlooks]

you cant look like that without roids

Doesn’t matter. My point was what is ideal in the eyes of women.

But besides that Trevor seems natty and Jeff seid has god tier frame mesomorph genetics as you can see on his teenager pics and probably would have looked almost the same if he would have stayed natty.

If you have the genetics you can definitely atleast come close to their physiques after 5+ years of natty lifting

Where did u go

Needed to study a lot

 

[Virgin at 29 😔]

Is to notice what guys and girls say when they notice it.

If they overwhelmingly ask things that are associated with bodybuilding, like
“Are you a bodybuilder”
“Are you on a diet / do you only eat chicken - rice”
“How much do you bench”

You are seen as a tryhard and mostly appeal to the male gaze, probably you are too buff

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While if you get remarks like
“What sport do you play”
“Are you competitive in x y sport”
anything pointing towards you just doing some sport and being athletic, chances are people think you are genetically fit, you appeal to the female gaze.

Being associated with bodybuilding is tryhard, while looking athletic is envyable. You want people to think you do athletics, some combat sport, a team sport or perhaps swimming, even if you don’t.

Being lean with some muscles is life, you need to look like a good hunter, like males were supposed to be.

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Strength training + sprinting + lots of cardio = ideal male physique

Ppl ask me if i lay basketball

 

[Deleted member 18840]

Strength training

You mean calistenics?

 

[Alexanderr]

Is to notice what guys and girls say when they notice it.

If they overwhelmingly ask things that are associated with bodybuilding, like
“Are you a bodybuilder”
“Are you on a diet / do you only eat chicken - rice”
“How much do you bench”

You are seen as a tryhard and mostly appeal to the male gaze, probably you are too buff

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While if you get remarks like
“What sport do you play”
“Are you competitive in x y sport”
anything pointing towards you just doing some sport and being athletic, chances are people think you are genetically fit, you appeal to the female gaze.

Being associated with bodybuilding is tryhard, while looking athletic is envyable. You want people to think you do athletics, some combat sport, a team sport or perhaps swimming, even if you don’t.

Being lean with some muscles is life, you need to look like a good hunter, like males were supposed to be.

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Strength training + sprinting + lots of cardio = ideal male physique

Good thread but no chance the average user here has to worry about being too buff lol.

 

[Tonymontana]

There's advantages of having a physique that appeals to the male gaze even if your sole goal for lifting is slaying.

Big one is that you intimidate, and command respect from other guys. In clubs and bars, that's very beneficial due to how competitive and aggressive other males can be with alcohol and females in the mix. I've known multiple good looking but skinny dudes who could pull, but also have been jumped and had the shit beaten out of them by other males out at bars and clubs.

It's also not like you can't appeal to both male and female gaze. Just get as jacked and big as you can without spilling over to the point where you lose your jawline. Personally, I like the way I look at 15% bf more than when I'm 8-12, because while my face isn't as sharp, I still have a visible jawline and cheekbones, but my muscles are a lot more filled out and I look a lot stronger and physically imposing

 

[Chadethnic101]

Even usain bolt irl looks big as his frame is defo big

Majority here won't even be able to achieve bolts physique natty lol

But yes before I wanted to look like Jeff seid but I can never maintain the size and leanness

Natty bodybuilding for most will end up with a athletic sportsman physique tbh

 

[Deleted member 18890]

was a part of wrestling team then lifted heavy high intensity low reps for most of my training without even doing accessories on and off
the things he said are pretty true
but you really have to focus on the back, shoulders, arms , chest

also wrestled but started off fat as fuck so physique wasn't so good but it sure as hell got better every year by a major amount

 

[StuffedFrog]

also wrestled but started off fat as fuck so physique wasn't so good but it sure as hell got better every year by a major amount

getting back into grappaling heres my physique https://looksmax.org/threads/physique-unfraded-part-2.502026/

 

[Deleted member 16110]

Will look like he doesn’t lift in a T-shirt and without pump.

Ideal for actual body halo is something like David Laid, Trevor Signorino, Jeff seid.
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Women who say that this is too much are lying anyways. They will get wet at the sight of a body like this.

In general the main thing that matters is looking aesthetic: V taper, good insertions etc. Combine this with a good amount of size and mass and you will have a giga mogger physique like the ones above

still male gaze

 

[Redwhiteandbluepill]

Part of getting girls is intimidating other men.

 

[chasingaesthetics]

female gaze is classic bodybuilder type of physique like frank zane, not too huge, chest isnt too big and wide everything

agreed, Frank Zane for sure but you will be told by incels this isnt true since they dont have the genetics or genetics
or let me repeat again the genetics to come close to him, yeah you need roids too but also balls to YOLO it and not give a fuck, if Zane was walking around on a beach he would cause more heads to turn than that gyal in the exorcist

 

[sub5inchcel]

agreed, Frank Zane for sure but you will be told by incels this isnt true since they dont have the genetics or genetics
or let me repeat again the genetics to come close to him, yeah you need roids too but also balls to YOLO it and not give a fuck, if Zane was walking around on a beach he would cause more heads to turn than that gyal in the exorcist

yeah its a hard physique to attain for sure heard he went crazy witht he stuff he took

 

[Tallooksmaxxer]

Will look like he doesn’t lift in a T-shirt and without pump.

Ideal for actual body halo is something like David Laid, Trevor Signorino, Jeff seid.
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Women who say that this is too much are lying anyways. They will get wet at the sight of a body like this.

In general the main thing that matters is looking aesthetic: V taper, good insertions etc. Combine this with a good amount of size and mass and you will have a giga mogger physique like the ones above

Finally a sane person in this thread.

Even without t shirt it will only look good on people with average-short height.
This physique is auschwitz tier if you are +6'1

Woman say they dont like big muscles because they think every man that roids instantly becomes Ronnie Coleman, Jay Cuttler etc.

As you posted, David Laid, Connor Murphy type is best.

Also i have never seen a video of Connor that a girl tells him he is too muscular.

 

[Lars2210]

Nah thats cope

you'd literally disappear with a shirt on with this much size lacking. but then again if u get that lean with that muscle defintion u are already above average genetically. getting decent size while being reasonably lean u need to be 95 percentile not everybody has that