A theory about eye depigmentation caused by levobunolol

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Recently I came across some posts about a glaucoma medication called levobunolol that has a few recorded cases of iris depigmentation, with at least one case going from brown eyes to blue.

As you can see in the screenshot below
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Since the case is very impressive, I started wondering why there are so few recorded cases of that happening specially since many people with glaucoma use those drops, and there's plenty more recorded cases of eye color change (usually the eyes get darker) with other eye medications.

My theory is that levobunolol works on the iris, like monobenzone works on the skin. Monobenzone attacks the melanin on the skin, but the thing about monobenzone is that the results are mostly good on people with vitiligo, specifically people with white spots on more than 50% of their body for people without vitiligo it is a gamble, it can take years to see any proper results, and you might just end up with white spots on your body without fully depigmenting, some get no results, while some get "lucky" and whiten their skin anyway., monobenzone works best when the body is already attacking the melanin on the skin, so monobenzone sweeps in and does the final clean up job.

So here's why think the depigmentation process in these two might be similar.

Firstly let's understand why depigmentation with levobunolol happens:

Melanin production in melanocytes can be influenced by signals from the sympathetic nervous system.
When beta receptors are stimulated,
cellular activity increases pigment production may increase

When these receptors are blocked (as happens with beta-blockers)
cellular activity may decrease.

Levobunolol blocks beta-adrenergic receptors in the eye. This causes:

-Production of aqueous humor

-Intraocular pressure

But theoretically it could also:
alter the activity of melanocytes and reduce melanin production over time.
If melanin gradually decreases, the deeper layer of the iris which tends to appear bluish or gray due to light scattering may become more visible.

This almost never happens even if the mechanism is biologically possible, because iris melanocytes are very stable, most people do not lose pigment easily and the systemic dose from eye drops is very small.


The few cases that have been recorded are with old people, in their 60s and 70s. Aging already changes iris pigment, as people age, several things can happen to the melanocytes in the iris:

-Melanocytes can lose activity;
-Melanin granules can degenerate;
-Pigment distribution in the iris can change;


This process is sometimes called age-related iris depigmentation. In some older adults, the iris can appear slightly lighter or more washed out over time.

Like I said before, medication like Levobunolol blocks beta-adrenergic receptors, melanocytes in an older person are already less active, more fragile and producing less melanin, so
then blocking sympathetic stimulation might further reduce melanocyte activity.

The medication might not cause depigmentation directly it might simply accelerate a process that was already happening, just like what happens with monobenzone and vitiligo.
Aging tissue may be more susceptible
long-term medication exposure may unmask subtle changes without massive pigment loss.

WHY YOU SHOULDN'T LOSE HOPE

I saw the case of a South Asian guy without that used monobenzone to whiten his body, and get got pretty even results, but he didn't use monobenzone alone, he also used another whitening cream called "mequinol", the two creams combine attacked the melanin on his skin and made up for the fact that the he didn't have vitiligo.
So, I think that one might be able to do the same with levobunolol, and use two products that can disrupt the pigment on the iris, that way maybe you can achieve the depigmentation like some of the recorded cases.

So that was my theory, and I'm interested in some other ideas about this.
 
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Recently I came across some posts about a glaucoma medication called levobunolol that has a few recorded cases of iris depigmentation, with at least one case going from brown eyes to blue.

As you can see in the screenshot below
View attachment 4727138

Since the case is very impressive, I started wondering why there are so few recorded cases of that happening specially since many people with glaucoma use those drops, and there's plenty more recorded cases of eye color change (usually the eyes get darker) with other eye medications.

My theory is that levobunolol works on the iris, like monobenzone works on the skin. Monobenzone attacks the melanin on the skin, but the thing about monobenzone is that the results are mostly good on people with vitiligo, specifically people with white spots on more than 50% of their body for people without vitiligo it is a gamble, it can take years to see any proper results, and you might just end up with white spots on your body without fully depigmenting, some get no results, while some get "lucky" and whiten their skin anyway., monobenzone works best when the body is already attacking the melanin on the skin, so monobenzone sweeps in and does the final clean up job.

So here's why think the depigmentation process in these two might be similar.

Firstly let's understand why depigmentation with levobunolol happens:

Melanin production in melanocytes can be influenced by signals from the sympathetic nervous system.
When beta receptors are stimulated,
cellular activity increases pigment production may increase

When these receptors are blocked (as happens with beta-blockers)
cellular activity may decrease.

Levobunolol blocks beta-adrenergic receptors in the eye. This causes:

-Production of aqueous humor

-Intraocular pressure

But theoretically it could also:
alter the activity of melanocytes and reduce melanin production over time.
If melanin gradually decreases, the deeper layer of the iris which tends to appear bluish or gray due to light scattering may become more visible.

This almost never happens even if the mechanism is biologically possible, because iris melanocytes are very stable, most people do not lose pigment easily and the systemic dose from eye drops is very small.


The few cases that have been recorded are with old people, in their 60s and 70s. Aging already changes iris pigment, as people age, several things can happen to the melanocytes in the iris:

-Melanocytes can lose activity;
-Melanin granules can degenerate;
-Pigment distribution in the iris can change;


This process is sometimes called age-related iris depigmentation. In some older adults, the iris can appear slightly lighter or more washed out over time.

Like I said before, medication like Levobunolol blocks beta-adrenergic receptors, melanocytes in an older person are already less active, more fragile and producing less melanin, so
then blocking sympathetic stimulation might further reduce melanocyte activity.

The medication might not cause depigmentation directly it might simply accelerate a process that was already happening, just like what happens with monobenzone and vitiligo.
Aging tissue may be more susceptible
long-term medication exposure may unmask subtle changes without massive pigment loss.

WHY YOU SHOULDN'T LOSE HOPE

I saw the case of a South Asian guy without that used monobenzone to whiten his body, and get got pretty even results, but he didn't use monobenzone alone, he also used another whitening cream called "mequinol", the two creams combine attacked the melanin on his skin and made up for the fact that the he didn't have vitiligo.
So, I think that one might be able to do the same with levobunolol, and use two products that can disrupt the pigment on the iris, that way maybe you can achieve the depigmentation like some of the recorded cases.

So that was my theory, and I'm interested in some other ideas about this.
 
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Recently I came across some posts about a glaucoma medication called levobunolol that has a few recorded cases of iris depigmentation, with at least one case going from brown eyes to blue.

As you can see in the screenshot below
View attachment 4727138

Since the case is very impressive, I started wondering why there are so few recorded cases of that happening specially since many people with glaucoma use those drops, and there's plenty more recorded cases of eye color change (usually the eyes get darker) with other eye medications.

My theory is that levobunolol works on the iris, like monobenzone works on the skin. Monobenzone attacks the melanin on the skin, but the thing about monobenzone is that the results are mostly good on people with vitiligo, specifically people with white spots on more than 50% of their body for people without vitiligo it is a gamble, it can take years to see any proper results, and you might just end up with white spots on your body without fully depigmenting, some get no results, while some get "lucky" and whiten their skin anyway., monobenzone works best when the body is already attacking the melanin on the skin, so monobenzone sweeps in and does the final clean up job.

So here's why think the depigmentation process in these two might be similar.

Firstly let's understand why depigmentation with levobunolol happens:

Melanin production in melanocytes can be influenced by signals from the sympathetic nervous system.
When beta receptors are stimulated,
cellular activity increases pigment production may increase

When these receptors are blocked (as happens with beta-blockers)
cellular activity may decrease.

Levobunolol blocks beta-adrenergic receptors in the eye. This causes:

-Production of aqueous humor

-Intraocular pressure

But theoretically it could also:
alter the activity of melanocytes and reduce melanin production over time.
If melanin gradually decreases, the deeper layer of the iris which tends to appear bluish or gray due to light scattering may become more visible.

This almost never happens even if the mechanism is biologically possible, because iris melanocytes are very stable, most people do not lose pigment easily and the systemic dose from eye drops is very small.


The few cases that have been recorded are with old people, in their 60s and 70s. Aging already changes iris pigment, as people age, several things can happen to the melanocytes in the iris:

-Melanocytes can lose activity;
-Melanin granules can degenerate;
-Pigment distribution in the iris can change;


This process is sometimes called age-related iris depigmentation. In some older adults, the iris can appear slightly lighter or more washed out over time.

Like I said before, medication like Levobunolol blocks beta-adrenergic receptors, melanocytes in an older person are already less active, more fragile and producing less melanin, so
then blocking sympathetic stimulation might further reduce melanocyte activity.

The medication might not cause depigmentation directly it might simply accelerate a process that was already happening, just like what happens with monobenzone and vitiligo.
Aging tissue may be more susceptible
long-term medication exposure may unmask subtle changes without massive pigment loss.

WHY YOU SHOULDN'T LOSE HOPE

I saw the case of a South Asian guy without that used monobenzone to whiten his body, and get got pretty even results, but he didn't use monobenzone alone, he also used another whitening cream called "mequinol", the two creams combine attacked the melanin on his skin and made up for the fact that the he didn't have vitiligo.
So, I think that one might be able to do the same with levobunolol, and use two products that can disrupt the pigment on the iris, that way maybe you can achieve the depigmentation like some of the recorded cases.

So that was my theory, and I'm interested in some other ideas about this.
I doubt the effectiveness of this, since eye pigment is determined very early on and usually near impossible to change (aside from laser/implants), simply cutting off melanin production doesn't get rid of the existing melanin, so you'd have to take this for years and years to notice anything, still an interesting topic though.

Regardless, I applaud your curiosity, in an age of the forum where there's little to no good threads, it is nice seeing curious people that actually want to looksmax :cool:

Apologies if my feedback included something you already mentioned, i admit I skimmed through the thread
 
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I doubt the effectiveness of this, since eye pigment is determined very early on and usually near impossible to change (aside from laser/implants), simply cutting off melanin production doesn't get rid of the existing melanin, so you'd have to take this for years and years to notice anything, still an interesting topic though.
You're right, I forgot to mention the fact that the recorded cases happened after years of daily use. It took 5 years for the 68 year old man who went from brown to blue
Regardless, I applaud your curiosity, in an age of the forum where there's little to no good threads, it is nice seeing curious people that actually want to looksmax :cool:

Apologies if my feedback included something you already mentioned, i admit I skimmed through the thread
Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it
 
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Recently I came across some posts about a glaucoma medication called levobunolol that has a few recorded cases of iris depigmentation, with at least one case going from brown eyes to blue.

As you can see in the screenshot below
View attachment 4727138

Since the case is very impressive, I started wondering why there are so few recorded cases of that happening specially since many people with glaucoma use those drops, and there's plenty more recorded cases of eye color change (usually the eyes get darker) with other eye medications.

My theory is that levobunolol works on the iris, like monobenzone works on the skin. Monobenzone attacks the melanin on the skin, but the thing about monobenzone is that the results are mostly good on people with vitiligo, specifically people with white spots on more than 50% of their body for people without vitiligo it is a gamble, it can take years to see any proper results, and you might just end up with white spots on your body without fully depigmenting, some get no results, while some get "lucky" and whiten their skin anyway., monobenzone works best when the body is already attacking the melanin on the skin, so monobenzone sweeps in and does the final clean up job.

So here's why think the depigmentation process in these two might be similar.

Firstly let's understand why depigmentation with levobunolol happens:

Melanin production in melanocytes can be influenced by signals from the sympathetic nervous system.
When beta receptors are stimulated,
cellular activity increases pigment production may increase

When these receptors are blocked (as happens with beta-blockers)
cellular activity may decrease.

Levobunolol blocks beta-adrenergic receptors in the eye. This causes:

-Production of aqueous humor

-Intraocular pressure

But theoretically it could also:
alter the activity of melanocytes and reduce melanin production over time.
If melanin gradually decreases, the deeper layer of the iris which tends to appear bluish or gray due to light scattering may become more visible.

This almost never happens even if the mechanism is biologically possible, because iris melanocytes are very stable, most people do not lose pigment easily and the systemic dose from eye drops is very small.


The few cases that have been recorded are with old people, in their 60s and 70s. Aging already changes iris pigment, as people age, several things can happen to the melanocytes in the iris:

-Melanocytes can lose activity;
-Melanin granules can degenerate;
-Pigment distribution in the iris can change;


This process is sometimes called age-related iris depigmentation. In some older adults, the iris can appear slightly lighter or more washed out over time.

Like I said before, medication like Levobunolol blocks beta-adrenergic receptors, melanocytes in an older person are already less active, more fragile and producing less melanin, so
then blocking sympathetic stimulation might further reduce melanocyte activity.

The medication might not cause depigmentation directly it might simply accelerate a process that was already happening, just like what happens with monobenzone and vitiligo.
Aging tissue may be more susceptible
long-term medication exposure may unmask subtle changes without massive pigment loss.

WHY YOU SHOULDN'T LOSE HOPE

I saw the case of a South Asian guy without that used monobenzone to whiten his body, and get got pretty even results, but he didn't use monobenzone alone, he also used another whitening cream called "mequinol", the two creams combine attacked the melanin on his skin and made up for the fact that the he didn't have vitiligo.
So, I think that one might be able to do the same with levobunolol, and use two products that can disrupt the pigment on the iris, that way maybe you can achieve the depigmentation like some of the recorded cases.

So that was my theory, and I'm interested in some other ideas about this.
Can we keep this method on the low
 
if u do more research it can be done in weeks.
I won’t cause I’m black jfl. But if light brown would be achievable then I’d be down for it but it seems to give grey or blue from what blake was saying. I’m not sure if u could find a middle ground where it looks light brown. But I heard if u stop using it reverts. Meaning I would HAVE to get to the point where it’s blue right? Ngl I dnr
 
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Can we keep this method on the low
Why? If more people know about it, and try to use it specifically for eye lightening then maybe we'll find a guaranteed way to make it happen
 
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I doubt the effectiveness of this, since eye pigment is determined very early on and usually near impossible to change (aside from laser/implants), simply cutting off melanin production doesn't get rid of the existing melanin, so you'd have to take this for years and years to notice anything, still an interesting topic though.

Regardless, I applaud your curiosity, in an age of the forum where there's little to no good threads, it is nice seeing curious people that actually want to looksmax :cool:

Apologies if my feedback included something you already mentioned, i admit I skimmed through the thread
elbastardo's bleaching guide ?
 
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Oh my god nigga I tried this shit

Fuck it
what happened was there no result ?
are you just a guinea pig
you said you also tried pneumo teeth whitening guide
 
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what happened was there no result ?
are you just a guinea pig
you said you also tried pneumo teeth whitening guide
I have not tried pneumo's teeth whitening guide, but I am planning on doing so
 
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Why? If more people know about it, and try to use it specifically for eye lightening then maybe we'll find a guaranteed way to make it happen
I’m running some tests soon i’ll be making a thread
 
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I have not tried pneumo's teeth whitening guide, but I am planning on doing so
you sure ? or maybe it's your twink friend unon or something i remember one of you two girls saying they tried the guide and their teeth starting falling
 
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May 2025 I downloaded & saved the video, but I had been using it for around a month by the time I uploaded it

I stopped in around September-October 2025, Zero change, absolutely nothing
doesn't let me watch the video
but if you done it correctly and still no results i guess its gg
 
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Recently I came across some posts about a glaucoma medication called levobunolol that has a few recorded cases of iris depigmentation, with at least one case going from brown eyes to blue.

As you can see in the screenshot below
View attachment 4727138

Since the case is very impressive, I started wondering why there are so few recorded cases of that happening specially since many people with glaucoma use those drops, and there's plenty more recorded cases of eye color change (usually the eyes get darker) with other eye medications.

My theory is that levobunolol works on the iris, like monobenzone works on the skin. Monobenzone attacks the melanin on the skin, but the thing about monobenzone is that the results are mostly good on people with vitiligo, specifically people with white spots on more than 50% of their body for people without vitiligo it is a gamble, it can take years to see any proper results, and you might just end up with white spots on your body without fully depigmenting, some get no results, while some get "lucky" and whiten their skin anyway., monobenzone works best when the body is already attacking the melanin on the skin, so monobenzone sweeps in and does the final clean up job.

So here's why think the depigmentation process in these two might be similar.

Firstly let's understand why depigmentation with levobunolol happens:

Melanin production in melanocytes can be influenced by signals from the sympathetic nervous system.
When beta receptors are stimulated,
cellular activity increases pigment production may increase

When these receptors are blocked (as happens with beta-blockers)
cellular activity may decrease.

Levobunolol blocks beta-adrenergic receptors in the eye. This causes:

-Production of aqueous humor

-Intraocular pressure

But theoretically it could also:
alter the activity of melanocytes and reduce melanin production over time.
If melanin gradually decreases, the deeper layer of the iris which tends to appear bluish or gray due to light scattering may become more visible.

This almost never happens even if the mechanism is biologically possible, because iris melanocytes are very stable, most people do not lose pigment easily and the systemic dose from eye drops is very small.


The few cases that have been recorded are with old people, in their 60s and 70s. Aging already changes iris pigment, as people age, several things can happen to the melanocytes in the iris:

-Melanocytes can lose activity;
-Melanin granules can degenerate;
-Pigment distribution in the iris can change;


This process is sometimes called age-related iris depigmentation. In some older adults, the iris can appear slightly lighter or more washed out over time.

Like I said before, medication like Levobunolol blocks beta-adrenergic receptors, melanocytes in an older person are already less active, more fragile and producing less melanin, so
then blocking sympathetic stimulation might further reduce melanocyte activity.

The medication might not cause depigmentation directly it might simply accelerate a process that was already happening, just like what happens with monobenzone and vitiligo.
Aging tissue may be more susceptible
long-term medication exposure may unmask subtle changes without massive pigment loss.

WHY YOU SHOULDN'T LOSE HOPE

I saw the case of a South Asian guy without that used monobenzone to whiten his body, and get got pretty even results, but he didn't use monobenzone alone, he also used another whitening cream called "mequinol", the two creams combine attacked the melanin on his skin and made up for the fact that the he didn't have vitiligo.
So, I think that one might be able to do the same with levobunolol, and use two products that can disrupt the pigment on the iris, that way maybe you can achieve the depigmentation like some of the recorded cases.

So that was my theory, and I'm interested in some other ideas about this.
what people forget to mention is this only happened in two cases over the course of 5 years on two elderly people
 
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you sure ? or maybe it's your twink friend unon or something i remember one of you two girls saying they tried the guide and their teeth starting falling
oh yeah

this was me, I was joking though
 
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oh yeah

this was me, I was joking though
oh so you were joking.
so this is funny to you.
wouldn't it be funnier if I squeezed the life outta your throat yeah and hear me out, and then I rip our your esophagus and use it as a fleshlight.

how bout that funny guy how about it
 
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I’m running some tests soon i’ll be making a thread
Cool, I'll be looking forward to that. Where did you get the drops?
what people forget to mention is this only happened in two cases over the course of 5 years on two elderly people
My bad, "very few" makes it sound like it's definitely more than 2
 
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Cool, I'll be looking forward to that. Where did you get the drops?

My bad, "very few" makes it sound like it's definitely more than 2
Ive found a couple of medications i will be combinding the indians have everything
 
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Ive found a couple of medications i will be combinding the indians have everything
what the fuck do you mean combinding and what drugs
 
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part of the stack
wouldn’t recommend it, not many studies on it and again only cases are people with illnesses and the sides aren’t worth it ngl, tho please do tag me if sm does happen
 
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wouldn’t recommend it, not many studies on it and again only cases are an ageing couple and the sides aren’t worth it ngl
I can pm you stack iyw. Im willing to be a guineapig i have like the darkest eyes on org tbh
 
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Can we keep this method on the low
on this forum nobody does shit.

there are some things people make fun of that truly work, everybody calls anything cope cause doing something consistently for a long time is harder
 
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on this forum nobody does shit.

there are some things people make fun of that truly work, everybody calls anything cope cause doing something consistently for a long time is harder
agreed
 
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on this forum nobody does shit.

there are some things people make fun of that truly work, everybody calls anything cope cause doing something consistently for a long time is harder
First good take since Jan 2025 31.
My grey join date 😇
 
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Recently I came across some posts about a glaucoma medication called levobunolol that has a few recorded cases of iris depigmentation, with at least one case going from brown eyes to blue.

As you can see in the screenshot below
View attachment 4727138

Since the case is very impressive, I started wondering why there are so few recorded cases of that happening specially since many people with glaucoma use those drops, and there's plenty more recorded cases of eye color change (usually the eyes get darker) with other eye medications.

My theory is that levobunolol works on the iris, like monobenzone works on the skin. Monobenzone attacks the melanin on the skin, but the thing about monobenzone is that the results are mostly good on people with vitiligo, specifically people with white spots on more than 50% of their body for people without vitiligo it is a gamble, it can take years to see any proper results, and you might just end up with white spots on your body without fully depigmenting, some get no results, while some get "lucky" and whiten their skin anyway., monobenzone works best when the body is already attacking the melanin on the skin, so monobenzone sweeps in and does the final clean up job.

So here's why think the depigmentation process in these two might be similar.

Firstly let's understand why depigmentation with levobunolol happens:

Melanin production in melanocytes can be influenced by signals from the sympathetic nervous system.
When beta receptors are stimulated,
cellular activity increases pigment production may increase

When these receptors are blocked (as happens with beta-blockers)
cellular activity may decrease.

Levobunolol blocks beta-adrenergic receptors in the eye. This causes:

-Production of aqueous humor

-Intraocular pressure

But theoretically it could also:
alter the activity of melanocytes and reduce melanin production over time.
If melanin gradually decreases, the deeper layer of the iris which tends to appear bluish or gray due to light scattering may become more visible.

This almost never happens even if the mechanism is biologically possible, because iris melanocytes are very stable, most people do not lose pigment easily and the systemic dose from eye drops is very small.


The few cases that have been recorded are with old people, in their 60s and 70s. Aging already changes iris pigment, as people age, several things can happen to the melanocytes in the iris:

-Melanocytes can lose activity;
-Melanin granules can degenerate;
-Pigment distribution in the iris can change;


This process is sometimes called age-related iris depigmentation. In some older adults, the iris can appear slightly lighter or more washed out over time.

Like I said before, medication like Levobunolol blocks beta-adrenergic receptors, melanocytes in an older person are already less active, more fragile and producing less melanin, so
then blocking sympathetic stimulation might further reduce melanocyte activity.

The medication might not cause depigmentation directly it might simply accelerate a process that was already happening, just like what happens with monobenzone and vitiligo.
Aging tissue may be more susceptible
long-term medication exposure may unmask subtle changes without massive pigment loss.

WHY YOU SHOULDN'T LOSE HOPE

I saw the case of a South Asian guy without that used monobenzone to whiten his body, and get got pretty even results, but he didn't use monobenzone alone, he also used another whitening cream called "mequinol", the two creams combine attacked the melanin on his skin and made up for the fact that the he didn't have vitiligo.
So, I think that one might be able to do the same with levobunolol, and use two products that can disrupt the pigment on the iris, that way maybe you can achieve the depigmentation like some of the recorded cases.

So that was my theory, and I'm interested in some other ideas about this.
I applaud your effort into researching new and potentially beneficial looksmaxxes for this forum.

Unfortunately, some of your points are incorrect and I would like to correct them.

1. Eye color is determined by total melanin content in the anterior of the iris(stroma) To actually change your eye color you need to have a significant reduction in stromal melanin.

2. Melanocytes store melanin, and different contents of melanin causes varying eye color.

2. Levobunolol is a non-selective Beta-androgenic receptor antagonist for glaucoma (blocks Beta-1,Beta-2 receptors). It does not have any effect on melanocyte/melanin reduction or removal.

3. Beta-androgen receptors effect on melanocyte loss/degradation is minimal and small.

Reasons as to why this person noticed the color change might be due to lighting, stromal thinning caused by aging, or treatment that he didn't report.

Hope this helps! @courtcase75
 
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Bruv just hop on Metyrosine and Nitisinone
Then as much of antioxydants as you can. With diet and supplements.
Metyrosine wouldn’t do anything and Nitisinone could potentially darken it
 
Metyrosine wouldn’t do anything and Nitisinone could potentially darken it
Why wouldn’t you want to use metyrosine if you’re trying to lighten eye color
IMG 0376

Ngl nitisinone pretty fucking useless and would darken it but apparently it would help if you have a specific disease causing accumulation
 
We both saw the video by Blakespeaks
Recently I came across some posts about a glaucoma medication called levobunolol that has a few recorded cases of iris depigmentation, with at least one case going from brown eyes to blue.

As you can see in the screenshot below
View attachment 4727138

Since the case is very impressive, I started wondering why there are so few recorded cases of that happening specially since many people with glaucoma use those drops, and there's plenty more recorded cases of eye color change (usually the eyes get darker) with other eye medications.

My theory is that levobunolol works on the iris, like monobenzone works on the skin. Monobenzone attacks the melanin on the skin, but the thing about monobenzone is that the results are mostly good on people with vitiligo, specifically people with white spots on more than 50% of their body for people without vitiligo it is a gamble, it can take years to see any proper results, and you might just end up with white spots on your body without fully depigmenting, some get no results, while some get "lucky" and whiten their skin anyway., monobenzone works best when the body is already attacking the melanin on the skin, so monobenzone sweeps in and does the final clean up job.

So here's why think the depigmentation process in these two might be similar.

Firstly let's understand why depigmentation with levobunolol happens:

Melanin production in melanocytes can be influenced by signals from the sympathetic nervous system.
When beta receptors are stimulated,
cellular activity increases pigment production may increase

When these receptors are blocked (as happens with beta-blockers)
cellular activity may decrease.

Levobunolol blocks beta-adrenergic receptors in the eye. This causes:

-Production of aqueous humor

-Intraocular pressure

But theoretically it could also:
alter the activity of melanocytes and reduce melanin production over time.
If melanin gradually decreases, the deeper layer of the iris which tends to appear bluish or gray due to light scattering may become more visible.

This almost never happens even if the mechanism is biologically possible, because iris melanocytes are very stable, most people do not lose pigment easily and the systemic dose from eye drops is very small.


The few cases that have been recorded are with old people, in their 60s and 70s. Aging already changes iris pigment, as people age, several things can happen to the melanocytes in the iris:

-Melanocytes can lose activity;
-Melanin granules can degenerate;
-Pigment distribution in the iris can change;


This process is sometimes called age-related iris depigmentation. In some older adults, the iris can appear slightly lighter or more washed out over time.

Like I said before, medication like Levobunolol blocks beta-adrenergic receptors, melanocytes in an older person are already less active, more fragile and producing less melanin, so
then blocking sympathetic stimulation might further reduce melanocyte activity.

The medication might not cause depigmentation directly it might simply accelerate a process that was already happening, just like what happens with monobenzone and vitiligo.
Aging tissue may be more susceptible
long-term medication exposure may unmask subtle changes without massive pigment loss.

WHY YOU SHOULDN'T LOSE HOPE

I saw the case of a South Asian guy without that used monobenzone to whiten his body, and get got pretty even results, but he didn't use monobenzone alone, he also used another whitening cream called "mequinol", the two creams combine attacked the melanin on his skin and made up for the fact that the he didn't have vitiligo.
So, I think that one might be able to do the same with levobunolol, and use two products that can disrupt the pigment on the iris, that way maybe you can achieve the depigmentation like some of the recorded cases.

So that was my theory, and I'm interested in some other ideas about this.
does it mean i can get blue eyes?
 
I applaud your effort into researching new and potentially beneficial looksmaxxes for this forum.
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Hope this helps!
would you happen to know a better way
 
Why wouldn’t you want to use metyrosine if you’re trying to lighten eye color
View attachment 4727772
Ngl nitisinone pretty fucking useless and would darken it but apparently it would help if you have a specific disease causing accumulation
it can inhibit melanin production, it can’t reduce it

Metyrosine cannot reduce eye color because it only acts on the
production process, not on the pigment itself. Once melanin is created and stored in your eyes, it becomes one of the most chemically stable substances in the human body.
The primary reasons it cannot reduce existing melanin include:

1. Melanin is Chemically Permanent
Melanin is a complex, dense polymer that is resistant to enzymatic degradation. It is stored in specialized, tough cellular "vaults" called melanosomes.
National Institutes of Health (NIH) | (.gov)
National Institutes of Health (NIH) | (.gov) +1
  • Metyrosine works by blocking the enzyme "assembly line" (tyrosinase or tyrosine hydroxylase) that builds new melanin.
  • It has no chemical mechanism to break down, dissolve, or "bleach" the pigment that has already been manufactured and stored in those melanosomes.
    MDPI
    MDPI +2

2. Lack of "Turnover" in the Iris
In your skin, melanin is constantly being shed as skin cells die and are replaced. This is why a tan eventually fades.
Springer Nature Link
Springer Nature Link
  • Iris cells do not shed: The melanocytes in your iris are long-lived and do not regularly divide or get replaced.
  • Minimal Recycling: Melanin in the adult human eye has almost zero turnover. Once the pigment is deposited during infancy or early childhood, it stays in those same cells for your entire life.
    National Institutes of Health (.gov)
    National Institutes of Health (.gov) +2

3. Inhibition vs. Destruction
Metyrosine is a "competitive inhibitor." Think of it like a blockade at a factory gate—it stops raw materials (tyrosine) from entering to make new products. However, it does nothing to the products that are already sitting in the warehouse (your iris). Even if the factory stays closed for years, the warehouse remains full.
 
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would you happen to know a better way
The safer and more effective method to change eye color is through laser treatment.

For laser treatment you can do 2 different methods: STROMA and Yeux Claire's

1. STROMA is a highly concentrated laser at the iris and permanently lightens it in 1 or 2 sessions.

Benefits:
Takes one session, making it highly time effecient
Costs less due to less treatment
Repeated laser exposure damage is prevented.

Negatives:
Highly concentrated so any mishaps could lead to issues
High risk of post-treatment infection/damage

2. Yeux Claire's is a private treatment that uses slightly similar methods to STROMA but over several sessions

Benefits:
Treatment is slow and gradual, so you can choose when to stop at your desired color
Lower concentration lasers are used due to gradual treatment, so concentrated damage could be prevented.

Negatives:
Repeated laser exposure can cause damage
Is more expensive than STROMA


If you want to achieve a complete change from T50 pitch black eyes to blue eyes, these methods will work, of course do your research.


Hope this helps!
 
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it can inhibit melanin production, it can’t reduce it

Metyrosine cannot reduce eye color because it only acts on the
production process, not on the pigment itself. Once melanin is created and stored in your eyes, it becomes one of the most chemically stable substances in the human body.
The primary reasons it cannot reduce existing melanin include:

1. Melanin is Chemically Permanent
Melanin is a complex, dense polymer that is resistant to enzymatic degradation. It is stored in specialized, tough cellular "vaults" called melanosomes.
View attachment 4727830National Institutes of Health (NIH) | (.gov) +1
  • Metyrosine works by blocking the enzyme "assembly line" (tyrosinase or tyrosine hydroxylase) that builds new melanin.
  • It has no chemical mechanism to break down, dissolve, or "bleach" the pigment that has already been manufactured and stored in those melanosomes.
    View attachment 4727833MDPI +2

2. Lack of "Turnover" in the Iris
In your skin, melanin is constantly being shed as skin cells die and are replaced. This is why a tan eventually fades.
View attachment 4727832Springer Nature Link
  • Iris cells do not shed: The melanocytes in your iris are long-lived and do not regularly divide or get replaced.
  • Minimal Recycling: Melanin in the adult human eye has almost zero turnover. Once the pigment is deposited during infancy or early childhood, it stays in those same cells for your entire life.
    View attachment 4727831National Institutes of Health (.gov) +2

3. Inhibition vs. Destruction
Metyrosine is a "competitive inhibitor." Think of it like a blockade at a factory gate—it stops raw materials (tyrosine) from entering to make new products. However, it does nothing to the products that are already sitting in the warehouse (your iris). Even if the factory stays closed for years, the warehouse remains full.
Ur right
 
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The safer and more effective method to change eye color is through laser treatment.

For laser treatment you can do 2 different methods: STROMA and Yeux Claire's

1. STROMA is a highly concentrated laser at the iris and permanently lightens it in 1 or 2 sessions.

Benefits:
Takes one session, making it highly time effecient
Costs less due to less treatment
Repeated laser exposure damage is prevented.

Negatives:
Highly concentrated so any mishaps could lead to issues
High risk of post-treatment infection/damage

2. Yeux Claire's is a private treatment that uses slightly similar methods to STROMA but over several sessions

Benefits:
Treatment is slow and gradual, so you can choose when to stop at your desired color
Lower concentration lasers are used due to gradual treatment, so concentrated damage could be prevented.

Negatives:
Repeated laser exposure can cause damage
Is more expensive than STROMA


If you want to achieve a complete change from T50 pitch black eyes to blue eyes, these methods will work, of course do your research.


Hope this helps!
Is this nigga smurfing JFL
 
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I applaud your effort into researching new and potentially beneficial looksmaxxes for this forum.

Unfortunately, some of your points are incorrect and I would like to correct them.

1. Eye color is determined by total melanin content in the anterior of the iris(stroma) To actually change your eye color you need to have a significant reduction in stromal melanin.

2. Melanocytes store melanin, and different contents of melanin causes varying eye color.

2. Levobunolol is a non-selective Beta-androgenic receptor antagonist for glaucoma (blocks Beta-1,Beta-2 receptors). It does not have any effect on melanocyte/melanin reduction or removal.

3. Beta-androgen receptors effect on melanocyte loss/degradation is minimal and small.

Reasons as to why this person noticed the color change might be due to lighting, stromal thinning caused by aging, or treatment that he didn't report.

Hope this helps! @courtcase75
Did you read my full post?
 
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