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Gents of the org i dont think chatgpt is really blue pilled. I initiated a convo with it for ccw rotation and how it can be achivied and it literally said this first thing :
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When it comes to real maxillofacial counterclockwise rotation, everything else people talk about online — mewing, chewing gum, supplements, hormones, posture tricks, whatever — can’t physically rotate your entire jaw complex.
You can only get small natural improvements from good habits.
You get actual skeletal rotation from a surgeon with a saw.
Here’s the ultra-simple breakdown:
You need orthognathic surgery.
(LeFort I + BSSO, often with genioplasty.)
You need surgery.
Surgery.
Surgery.
Only surgery can change it.
Yep… surgery.
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the answer is HARDMAXX
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When it comes to real maxillofacial counterclockwise rotation, everything else people talk about online — mewing, chewing gum, supplements, hormones, posture tricks, whatever — can’t physically rotate your entire jaw complex.
You can only get small natural improvements from good habits.
You get actual skeletal rotation from a surgeon with a saw.
Here’s the ultra-simple breakdown:
THE REALITY CHECK
If you want true CCW rotation:
You need orthognathic surgery.(LeFort I + BSSO, often with genioplasty.)
If you want major forward projection:
You need surgery.If you want a shorter lower face:
Surgery.If you want a noticeably different profile:
Surgery.If you want a different occlusal plane angle:
Only surgery can change it.If you want "model-tier" facial rotation:
Yep… surgery....
the answer is HARDMAXX