about thumbpulling and haters

[mtn_dude_193]

all of this just proves that it works but its way slower ( which is much better than it being faster

 

[resting]

i think a lot of people are underestimating thumbpulling if marpe actually can expand 7 - 8 mms in 30 days thumbpulling can do the same in lets say 200 days. now people will say not enough force blah blah your thumbs actually generate more force than the marpe so yeah, also people that say it doesnt do it 24/7 marpe also doesnt do it all the time after you switch the crank it actually only applies force for like 5 minutes and it gradually lessens afterwards it actually holds the shape thats the best attribute of marpe. while thumbpulling cant be continous and hold the shape you can stack little amount of expansion over like 200 days and get the same amount of expansion. now niggas are gonna say why not just work a job and get a marpe much easier. marpe only expands laterally so you arent getting any forward growth or rotation not even with facemask ( that can be a whole another thread on its own) you are even getting downward growth since nothing is holding the maxilla a lot of people get nose humps after it. while with thumbpulling since you are simulating natural development ( i mean pushing on the palate just like you should have done with your tongue while you were a child) can actually give you real forward growth. jordan wood is the best example of this whit what he did after 19 you can check his results. also i agree that if your sutures are very fused this will not work at all but its not the case for most people even at age 30

Thumb pulling is not constant pressure unlike marpe or other orthodontic tools. You cannot split your mid palate suture with your fingers. This is a retarded idea popularised by grifters who do this bullshit.

An example on why thumbpulling is cope is the thumb sucking. When you are a little kid and you suck your thumb (pressure to the palate) it moves just the teeth forward and makes no difference to the maxillary bone structure.

No to mention that this theory has no evidence supporting it.

 

[resting]

No its not
Marpe works because through the screws its completely bound to the bone, enough pressure will eventually destroy either the marpe or the bone and bone is more fragile, due to the minimal mobility that the suture has marpe's pressure which is in direct connection to the bone makes the suture fail to stay intact as is and moves it minimally
The thumbs have 0 direct connection like this and thats the whole difference, their pressure can just be diverted

Couldn't have said it better myself. Mirin the explanation.

 

[mtn_dude_193]

Thumb pulling is not constant pressure. You cannot split your mid palate suture with your fingers. This is a retarded idea popularised by grifters who do this bullshit.

An example on why thumbpulling is cope is the thumb sucking. When you are a little kid and you suck your thumb (pressure to the palate) it moves just the teeth forward and makes no difference to the maxillary bone structure.

No to mention that this theory has no evidence supporting it.

dude i explained why it doesnt need to be constant pressure marpe isnt conssitent pressure either. also thumb suckins isnt even the same. the evidence is jordan wood

 

[resting]

dude i explained why it doesnt need to be constant pressure marpe isnt conssitent pressure either. also thumb suckins isnt even the same. the evidence is jordan wood

Ok my evidence of sucking dick makes you more attractive is Matt Bomer. One isolated case (that isnt proven and this guy literally has an incentive to make money off promoting this to retards like you) does not prove anything.

 

[mtn_dude_193]

Ok my evidence of sucking dick makes you more attractive is Matt Bomer. One isolated case (that isnt proven and this guy literally has an incentive to make money off promoting this to retards like you) does not prove anything.

i dont believe jester patel i believe jordan wood nigga also you still didnt disprove me. no one actually did thumbpulling long enough and right to get results better than marpe besides a few people

 

[resting]

i dont believe jester patel i believe jordan wood nigga also you still didnt disprove me. no one actually did thumbpulling long enough and right to get results better than marpe besides a few people

He has a 40$ a month skool. He directly profits from convincing people that this shit works. I don't trust him or information that comes from sources who directly benefit from the results they conclude.

 

[mtn_dude_193]

He has a 40$ a month skool. He directly profits from convincing people that this shit works. I don't trust him or information that comes from sources who directly benefit from the results they conclude.

i agree but the evidence is there

 

[resting]

i agree but the evidence is there

It's weak and inconclusive.

 

[undisputedlltn]

Cope harder nigga

 

[mtn_dude_193]

It's weak and inconclusive.

yeah the evidence might be weak but i explained why it has a chance to work

 

[resting]

yeah the evidence might be weak but i explained why it has a chance to work

If I was that desperate to expand my palate, I'd probably buy a mse and install it myself. Copes are what hold you back from your goals the most. Pulling on your mouth for hours everyday is nothing more than a waste of time for something that is inconclusive and not proven.

 

[mtn_dude_193]

If I was that desperate to expand my palate, I'd probably buy a mse and install it myself. Copes are what hold you back from your goals the most. Pulling on your mouth for hours everyday is nothing more than a waste of time for something that is inconclusive and not proven.

the thing is thumbpulling gives forward growth and actual rotation and overall better results , midface projection etc , mse drops your maxilla nad only expands laterally. or it would be stupid as fuck to thumbpull

 

[xkraltr325]

dude you just joined please

Seems like you dont know the deal

 

[mtn_dude_193]

Seems like you dont know the deal

türk değil misin aq

 

[xkraltr325]

Türk türkü gurbette

 

[mtn_dude_193]

Türk türkü gurbette

niga miga sen hayırdır

 

[xkraltr325]

Türk = cracka
Kürdo = niga
Çiğ süt + sağlık = kutsal boy

 

[mtn_dude_193]

Türk = cracka
Kürdo = niga
Çiğ süt + sağlık = kutsal boy

number 1 gri

 

[Marcelek]

i think a lot of people are underestimating thumbpulling if marpe actually can expand 7 - 8 mms in 30 days thumbpulling can do the same in lets say 200 days. now people will say not enough force blah blah your thumbs actually generate more force than the marpe so yeah, also people that say it doesnt do it 24/7 marpe also doesnt do it all the time after you switch the crank it actually only applies force for like 5 minutes and it gradually lessens afterwards it actually holds the shape thats the best attribute of marpe. while thumbpulling cant be continous and hold the shape you can stack little amount of expansion over like 200 days and get the same amount of expansion. now niggas are gonna say why not just work a job and get a marpe much easier. marpe only expands laterally so you arent getting any forward growth or rotation not even with facemask ( that can be a whole another thread on its own) you are even getting downward growth since nothing is holding the maxilla a lot of people get nose humps after it. while with thumbpulling since you are simulating natural development ( i mean pushing on the palate just like you should have done with your tongue while you were a child) can actually give you real forward growth. jordan wood is the best example of this whit what he did after 19 you can check his results. also i agree that if your sutures are very fused this will not work at all but its not the case for most people even at age 30

this shit just doesnt work, theres just no way that pressing fingers against the roof of your mouth does anything

 

[mtn_dude_193]

this shit just doesnt work, theres just no way that pressing fingers against the roof of your mouth does anything

do you even have any knowledge about the topic? hen how does abything work bro