abrahamic faiths have polythiestic origin

[mayo mogger]

yahwae is tribal god of war of israelies [ thats why they dont ask you to convert ] , yhwh is not a single god he is the son of el JFL

who reiceved the kingdom of israel as inheritance from the high god [el]


his origin story is the same , he defeated a 7 headed dragon like monster with lighting spears [ jfl same as otherr pagans ] and other gods of israelities bowed down to him and eventualLLY AFTER THAT

ISRAELITES STARTED WORSHIPING HIM AND HIM ONLY



FURTHER PROOF IS THAT IS THE OLD TESTAMENT

THE WORD ELOHIMS IS USED WHICH IMPLIES MANY GODS ,


so yeah idk i cant trust any religion at this point

 

[mayo mogger]

@SubhumanCurrycel

 

[mayo mogger]

Psalm 82​

A psalm of Asaph.​

1 God presides in the great assembly;
he renders judgment among the “gods”:
2 “How long will you[a] defend the unjust
and show partiality to the wicked?[b]
3 Defend the weak and the fatherless;
uphold the cause of the poor and the oppressed.
4 Rescue the weak and the needy;
deliver them from the hand of the wicked.
5 “The ‘gods’ know nothing, they understand nothing.
They walk about in darkness;
all the foundations of the earth are shaken.
6 “I said, ‘You are “gods”;
you are all sons of the Most High.’
7 But you will die like mere mortals;
you will fall like every other ruler.”
8 Rise up, O God, judge the earth,
for all the nations are your inheritance

 

[mayo mogger]

jfl he even had a wife

ashrah


they were worshiped as a couple

 

[yeeyeeslayer]

0

 

[mayo mogger]

0

its not meant to be 90% of the forum wont get it anyway lmao

 

[shia.jihadist]

no

 

[mayo mogger]

Canaanite pantheon, El, giving his children (of which Yahweh was one) each a nation of the earth as their inheritance.

8

When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel. 9 For the Lord's portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.


jfl im starting to doubt this stuff lmao

 

[yeeyeeslayer]

no

bro went form Hassan Nasrallah to Jeremy Meeks

 

[mayo mogger]

Canaanite pantheon, El, giving his children (of which Yahweh was one) each a nation of the earth as their inheritance.

8

When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel. 9 For the Lord's portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.


jfl im starting to doubt this stuff lmao

this is from the old testament


do you even know yhwh?

he is just a war god of israel


jesus was apocalyptic prophet of the jews [ which majority of them failed ]

paul converting gentiles lead to all of this lmao

 

[shia.jihadist]

bro went form Hassan Nasrallah to Jeremy Meeks

i didnt want his face next to my shitposts

 

[mayo mogger]

Canaanite pantheon, El, giving his children (of which Yahweh was one) each a nation of the earth as their inheritance.

Deuteronomy 32:8-9​

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When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel. 9 For the Lord's portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.


jfl im starting to doubt this stuff lmao

@SubhumanCurrycel @Jason Voorhees

i dont know many christians on this forum lmao

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Psalm 82​

A psalm of Asaph.​

1 God presides in the great assembly;
he renders judgment among the “gods”:
2 “How long will you[a] defend the unjust
and show partiality to the wicked?[b]
3 Defend the weak and the fatherless;
uphold the cause of the poor and the oppressed.
4 Rescue the weak and the needy;
deliver them from the hand of the wicked.
5 “The ‘gods’ know nothing, they understand nothing.
They walk about in darkness;
all the foundations of the earth are shaken.
6 “I said, ‘You are “gods”;
you are all sons of the Most High.’
7 But you will die like mere mortals;
you will fall like every other ruler.”
8 Rise up, O God, judge the earth,
for all the nations are your inheritance

Your argument is Muslim tier and very cringe, and relies on word concept fallacies, all it does is display your ignorance

The reference “god” has multiple meanings not just one reference.

God historically designated an ROLE, an ACTION not something to the divine solely.

That’s why David says “I have no god In me”

And why GOD YHWH SAYS TO MOSES ILL MAKE YOU A GOD.

Gods the term is used throughout the bible to refer to not just the divine council (angels) pagan beings (fallen angels) and those in powerful positions such as in psalm 83, it is also used to refer to the action of god his existence as well as his personhood.

 

[mayo mogger]

Your argument is Muslim tier and very cringe, and relies on word concept fallacies, all it does is display your ignorance

The reference “god” has multiple meanings not just one reference.

God historically designated an ROLE, an ACTION not something to the divine solely.

That’s why David says “I have no god In me”

And why GOD YHWH SAYS TO MOSES ILL MAKE YOU A GOD.

Gods the term is used throughout the bible to refer to not just the divine council (angels) pagan beings (fallen angels) and those in powerful positions such as in psalm 83, it is also used to refer to the action of god his existence as well as his personhood.

im not muslim

i dont want eternal damnation , so i am researching christianity and islam

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

im not muslim

i dont want eternal damnation , so i am researching christianity and islam

And your doing a piss poor job at it.

The Israelite and the caananites were around one and other and the Caanaites unfortunately equated the Israelite god to their storm God. YHWH isn’t a pagan deity nor does he come from their pantheon in any way the caananites borrowed the Israelite God via osmosis, unfortunately many Israelites became pagan and added to this confusion.

It’s the same way how the romans would often equate other pantheons gods to their own like Mercury being Apollo etc.

 

[mayo mogger]

Your argument is Muslim tier and very cringe, and relies on word concept fallacies, all it does is display your ignorance

The reference “god” has multiple meanings not just one reference.

God historically designated an ROLE, an ACTION not something to the divine solely.

That’s why David says “I have no god In me”

And why GOD YHWH SAYS TO MOSES ILL MAKE YOU A GOD.

Gods the term is used throughout the bible to refer to not just the divine council (angels) pagan beings (fallen angels) and those in powerful positions such as in psalm 83, it is also used to refer to the action of god his existence as well as his personhood.

how would you refute? Deuteronomy 32:8-9

its same as the hare krishnas do , they worship one god out of the many in the pathenon of south asian gods


same is the case here , tbh i am incomptent for all of this im just a mere creation of god [ idk who it is ]

 

[mayo mogger]

And your doing a piss poor job at it.

The Israelite and the caananites were around one and other and the Caanaites unfortunately equated the Israelite god to their storm God. YHWH isn’t a pagan deity nor does he come from their pantheon in any way the caananites borrowed the Israelite God via osmosis, unfortunately many Israelites became pagan and added to this confusion.

It’s the same way how the romans would often equate other pantheons gods to their own like Mercury being Apollo etc.

no , your argument is even worse


yhwh is the son of el



Deuteronomy 32:8-9

admits this , yhwh is granted the portion of israel by the high god [el]

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

how would you refute? Deuteronomy 32:8-9

its same as the hare krishnas do , they worship one god out of the many in the pathenon of south asian gods


same is the case here , tbh i am incomptent for all of this im just a mere creation of god [ idk who it is ]

EL is short for ELOHIM which just means god…. You realise that right… YHWH is just the personal reference for god whilst ELOHIM IS A TITLE

I don’t see the issue here. The problem lies in people’s modern interpretation of the word “god” and equating it to ancient people. God references many things and in this instance angels are “god” in the sense that they are spiritual beings, YHWH however is unique in that he is the ONLY DIVINE being the one above all essentially.

Sons of ___ in the bible refers to people who descend or come from or have relation too. So sons of “Adam” means humans, sons of god refers to “Angelic beings” as shown in genesis 6.

As Smith notes in The Origins of Biblical Monotheism this passage is preserving the outlines for an older theology (48-49). It is likely that the compiler of this passage viewed Yahweh and Elyon as the same god already and therefore didn't think twice about what was happening here. This makes even more sense once you see that the audience was likely already conditioned to think that Yahweh divided the nations bc of the later Deut. 4:19 which depicts Yahweh as the one allotting the nations (McClellan 2011, 70).

The Hebrews are essentially equating the miracles that the followers of Baal assert is infect done by the ONE TRUE GOD YHWH. So all the rain food etc they pray for is ultimately found and provided by you guessed it YHWH that’s what’s going on here, many Jews unfortunately converted to paganism at the time as well and so it was also a call to these lost idiots to stop equating the works of YHWH with Others when all the works are done by YHWH the one god


Any more questions feel free to ask me

 

[mayo mogger]

EL is short for ELOHIM which just means god…. You realise that right… YHWH is just the personal reference for god whilst ELOHIM IS A TITLE

I don’t see the issue here. The problem lies in people’s modern interpretation of the word “god” and equating it to ancient people. God references many things and in this instance angels are “god” in the sense that they are spiritual beings, YHWH however is unique in that he is the ONLY DIVINE being the one above all essentially.

Sons of ___ in the bible refers to people who descend or come from or have relation too. So sons of “Adam” means humans, sons of god refers to “Angelic beings” as shown in genesis 6.

As Smith notes in The Origins of Biblical Monotheism this passage is preserving the outlines for an older theology (48-49). It is likely that the compiler of this passage viewed Yahweh and Elyon as the same god already and therefore didn't think twice about what was happening here. This makes even more sense once you see that the audience was likely already conditioned to think that Yahweh divided the nations bc of the later Deut. 4:19 which depicts Yahweh as the one allotting the nations (McClellan 2011, 70).

The Hebrews are essentially equating the miracles that the followers of Baal assert is infect done by the ONE TRUE GOD YHWH. So all the rain food etc they pray for is ultimately found and provided by you guessed it YHWH that’s what’s going on here, many Jews unfortunately converted to paganism at the time as well and so it was also a call to these lost idiots to stop equating the works of YHWH with Others when all the works are done by YHWH the one god


Any more questions feel free to ask me

Elohim is plural

IT TRANSLATES TO GODS WHICH INDICATES THE POLYTHIEST ORIGIN OF YAHWEH


BHAI PLEASE TELL ME HOW DOES



Deuteronomy 32:8-9 NOT CONVEY POLYTHEISM,

 

[Deleted member 77954]

yahwae is tribal god of war of israelies [ thats why they dont ask you to convert ] , yhwh is not a single god he is the son of el JFL

who reiceved the kingdom of israel as inheritance from the high god [el]


his origin story is the same , he defeated a 7 headed dragon like monster with lighting spears [ jfl same as otherr pagans ] and other gods of israelities bowed down to him and eventualLLY AFTER THAT

ISRAELITES STARTED WORSHIPING HIM AND HIM ONLY



FURTHER PROOF IS THAT IS THE OLD TESTAMENT

THE WORD ELOHIMS IS USED WHICH IMPLIES MANY GODS ,


so yeah idk i cant trust any religion at this point

Htn

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Elohim is plural

IT TRANSLATES TO GODS WHICH INDICATES THE POLYTHIEST ORIGIN OF YAHWEH


BHAI PLEASE TELL ME HOW DOES



Deuteronomy 32:8-9 NOT CONVEY POLYTHEISM,

Elohim is indeed plural as I said “God” doesn’t reference one thing like we think today in the modern era. God was an Ttitle, an Action. God would assign humans and Angels to be stewards in his stead (theosis is a eastern orthodox doctrine of us becoming “gods” by submitting our will to god and participating in his actions) this is why in psalm 82 humans are called “gods” for they are carrying out gods actions on earth, same with divine council and angels. So if you do the will of god in a sense you are “god” (little g) for you do gods will on earth which he has ordained you do like the prophets and angels in his stead.

In its original Hebrew Masoretic text, the phrase often reads “sons of Israel,” while the Septuagint (the Greek Old Testament used by the early Church) and the Dead Sea Scrolls read “sons of God” or “angels of God.” The Septuagint reflects the idea that God assigned angels or divine beings over the nations as stewards, but Israel is directly governed by YHWH and all are under YHWH as he is the one god the other “gods” are just individuals following the will of god and participating in his actions.

Now if you take a breather sit down brother and ask yourself “why is it the whole bible points to monotheism but the author here for some bizarre reason decided to break away from this tradition and become a polytheist” ask yourself does that sound reasonable? Does it sound sensible?

 

[mayo mogger]

EL is short for ELOHIM which just means god…. You realise that right… YHWH is just the personal reference for god whilst ELOHIM IS A TITLE

I don’t see the issue here. The problem lies in people’s modern interpretation of the word “god” and equating it to ancient people. God references many things and in this instance angels are “god” in the sense that they are spiritual beings, YHWH however is unique in that he is the ONLY DIVINE being the one above all essentially.

Sons of ___ in the bible refers to people who descend or come from or have relation too. So sons of “Adam” means humans, sons of god refers to “Angelic beings” as shown in genesis 6.

As Smith notes in The Origins of Biblical Monotheism this passage is preserving the outlines for an older theology (48-49). It is likely that the compiler of this passage viewed Yahweh and Elyon as the same god already and therefore didn't think twice about what was happening here. This makes even more sense once you see that the audience was likely already conditioned to think that Yahweh divided the nations bc of the later Deut. 4:19 which depicts Yahweh as the one allotting the nations (McClellan 2011, 70).

The Hebrews are essentially equating the miracles that the followers of Baal assert is infect done by the ONE TRUE GOD YHWH. So all the rain food etc they pray for is ultimately found and provided by you guessed it YHWH that’s what’s going on here, many Jews unfortunately converted to paganism at the time as well and so it was also a call to these lost idiots to stop equating the works of YHWH with Others when all the works are done by YHWH the one god


Any more questions feel free to ask me

look into the dead sea scrolls



they convey literally sons of elohim

 

[mayo mogger]

Elohim is indeed plural as I said “God” doesn’t reference one thing like we think today in the modern era. God was an Ttitle, an Action. God would assign humans and Angels to be stewards in his stead (theosis is a eastern orthodox doctrine of us becoming “gods” by submitting our will to god and participating in his actions) this is why in psalm 82 humans are called “gods” for they are carrying out gods actions on earth, same with divine council and angels. So if you do the will of god in a sense you are “god” (little g) for you do gods will on earth which he has ordained you do like the prophets and angels in his stead.

In its original Hebrew Masoretic text, the phrase often reads “sons of Israel,” while the Septuagint (the Greek Old Testament used by the early Church) and the Dead Sea Scrolls read “sons of God” or “angels of God.” The Septuagint reflects the idea that God assigned angels or divine beings over the nations, but Israel is directly governed by YHWH.

Now if you take a breather sit down brother and ask yourself “why is it the whole bible points to monotheism but the author here for some bizarre reason decided to break away from this tradition and become a polytheist” ask yourself does that sound reasonable? Does it sound sensible?

yes tbh , i need more time

 

[Futura]

yahwae is tribal god of war of israelies [ thats why they dont ask you to convert ] , yhwh is not a single god he is the son of el JFL

who reiceved the kingdom of israel as inheritance from the high god [el]


his origin story is the same , he defeated a 7 headed dragon like monster with lighting spears [ jfl same as otherr pagans ] and other gods of israelities bowed down to him and eventualLLY AFTER THAT

ISRAELITES STARTED WORSHIPING HIM AND HIM ONLY



FURTHER PROOF IS THAT IS THE OLD TESTAMENT

THE WORD ELOHIMS IS USED WHICH IMPLIES MANY GODS ,


so yeah idk i cant trust any religion at this point

What the fuck is blud blabbing about how is mythology relevant in the big 24

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

yes tbh , i need more time

look into the dead sea scrolls



they convey literally sons of elohim

Well the word here is “elyon” which means god the most high. Also Elohim can also mean “Godhead” as well


Which is funny when you think about it because we Christian’s have always used the term “godhead” oh well I guess the TRINITY MAKES NOOOOO SEEENNNNSSEEEEE HOW CAN 3 BE ONE HABIBBIIII adds proof to the fact that the isrelsites were trinitarian Christians in theology because from an ignorant outside lense Christianity does appear polytheistic but it’s not and I think the same applies here it’s just people misunderstanding word concepts and applying false equivalence

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

@yeeyeeslayer @shia.jihadist (tag u cos your the only Muslims in this thread) my replies have destroyed this silly assertion however as I have shown God is referee in Plural unity as “Elohim” which lends credence that god is a Trinity and not “one person” and not Monad now do you see why Islam once again lacks continuity with previous scripture which proved Islam false.

 

[Entschuldigung]

No shit Sherlock

 

[shia.jihadist]

@yeeyeeslayer @shia.jihadist (tag u cos your the only Muslims in this thread) my replies have destroyed this silly assertion however as I have shown God is referee in Plural unity as “Elohim” which lends credence that god is a Trinity and not “one person” and not Monad now do you see why Islam once again lacks continuity with previous scripture which proved Islam false.

I'm in the thick of it everybody knows

From the screen to the ring to the pen to the king

 

[mayo mogger]

What the fuck is blud blabbing about how is mythology relevant in the big 24

eternal damnation is kinda relevant tbh

 

[Futura]

eternal damnation is kinda relevant tbh

In my religion after death everyone gets raped by femboys

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Pascal’s wager is a terrible reason to follow god. God wants you to follow him out of love (the Christian god) for he is Love. He is like your father he wants best for you but will punish you if you misbehave but in general he loves you and wants only the best for you. If you truly seek god as I have done he will show himself to you trust in him and he will show himself to you.

eternal damnation is kinda relevant tbh

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

I think early Judaism was henotheistic at the very least. Meaning they didn't outright deny the existence of other God's they just viewed them unworthy of worship as the most high God sworn to Israel.

 

[Bars]

Sunan an-Nasa'i 5379 - The Book of the Etiquette of Judges - كتاب آداب القضاة - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم)

Hadith of the Prophet Muhammad (saws) in English and Arabic

sunnah.com

Sunan an-Nasa'i 5379

It was narrated from 'Abdullah bin 'Amr bin Al-'As that:
The Prophet [SAW] said: "Those who are just and fair will be with Allah, Most High, on thrones of light, at the right hand of the Most Merciful, those who are just in their rulings and in their dealings with their families and those of whom they are in charge." Muhammad (one of the narrators) said in his Hadith: "And both of His hands are right hands."

Lool what?

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Sunan an-Nasa'i 5379 - The Book of the Etiquette of Judges - كتاب آداب القضاة - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم)

Hadith of the Prophet Muhammad (saws) in English and Arabic

sunnah.com

Sunan an-Nasa'i 5379

It was narrated from 'Abdullah bin 'Amr bin Al-'As that:
The Prophet [SAW] said: "Those who are just and fair will be with Allah, Most High, on thrones of light, at the right hand of the Most Merciful, those who are just in their rulings and in their dealings with their families and those of whom they are in charge." Muhammad (one of the narrators) said in his Hadith: "And both of His hands are right hands."

Lool what?

Some Muslim schools of thought and I’d say most the view this as metaphorical however Salafis take this literally and yes believe Allah has a blouse, 2 right arms, multiple eyes and one shin.