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I see this all too often

Person A: completely btfo's person B with facts + logic

Person B: well you're just trolling :feelswah:
 
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Shut up faggot
 
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Based

Tell me more
 
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barnaby Preston from lookism?
 
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Your so right bro
 
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you were parroting an actual high iq philosopher yet I still managed to outwit you into submission with pure on the spot intuition LOL
>I outwitted you
You changed goal posts and were ultimately BTFOd
 
>I outwitted you
You changed goal posts and were ultimately BTFOd
you were literally claiming being lgbtq+ is bad/immoral at the same time as claiming morals don't exist. mirin ability to contradict yourself so brutally in like 5 posts
 
you were literally claiming being lgbtq+ is bad/immoral at the same time as claiming morals don't exist. mirin ability to contradict yourself so brutally in like 5 posts
I never said LGBT was immoral. I just told you to stop pushing your moral values upon others. Secondly I said objective morality did not exist. Again you demonstrate your low iq
 
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I never said LGBT was immoral. I just told you to stop pushing your moral values upon others. Secondly I said objective morality did not exist. Again you demonstrate your low iq
why should i stop pushing my morals onto others? because it's immoral? :LOL:
 
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why should i stop pushing my morals onto others? because it's immoral? :LOL:
because I dislike it, and think slave morality (which you love) will make others weak.
 
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I have to say, you’re my favourite user. Every time you post i get butterflies!
 
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because I dislike it, and think slave morality (which you love) will make others weak.
well I think it's the right thing to do and idc what whether you like it or not

slave morality makes society strong

most of the guys worried about being weak/strong are bottom of the barrel losers that get bullied regardless
 
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well I think it's the right thing to do and idc what whether you like it or not

slave morality makes society strong

most of the guys worried about being weak/strong are bottom of the barrel losers that get bullied regardless
And you think by doing the "right thing" you're helping people out? How are you helping individual people out if you're not freeing them?
 
And you think by doing the "right thing" you're helping people out? How are you helping individual people out if you're not freeing them?
precisely

? I think it's pretty clear how I am helping lgbtq+ people if I reduce amount of unwarranted abuse they receive
 
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precisely

? I think it's pretty clear how I am helping lgbtq+ people if I reduce amount of unwarranted abuse they receive
You encourage collectivism, which will discourage the strong to rise. Let the untermensch die
 
You encourage collectivism, which will discourage the strong to rise. Let the untermensch die
yes, because it is the right thing to do. everyone benefits even those at the top

the strong can adapt, otherwise they are not strong by definition
 
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yes, because it is the right thing to do. everyone benefits even those at the top

the strong can adapt, otherwise they are not strong by definition
Why is it the right thing to do? You're merely preventing the strong rising because of your collectivist mindset. Those strong individuals will not be able to rule if you allow the weak masses to make decisions
 
Why is it the right thing to do? You're merely preventing the strong rising because of your collectivist mindset. Those strong individuals will not be able to rule if you allow the weak masses to make decisions
my intuition

if they were strong they would be able to adapt to the environment otherwise they are weak and we will help them

when did I say the weak should be allowed to make decisions? that should be reserved for the smartest with the best judgement and good sense of morality
 
my intuition

if they were strong they would be able to adapt to the environment otherwise they are weak and we will help them

when did I say the weak should be allowed to make decisions? that should be reserved for the smartest with the best judgement and good sense of morality
Because you want the weak (lgbt) to survive and have plenty of rights. They are the weak.

"My intuition", why does that make your stance right then?
 
Because you want the weak (lgbt) to survive and have plenty of rights. They are the weak.

"My intuition", why does that make your stance right then?
what makes anything anything? intuition

I don't see them as weak. I see people who fail to adapt to modern society as weak, and they deserve our help too
 
what makes anything anything? intuition

I don't see them as weak. I see people who fail to adapt to modern society as weak, and they deserve our help too
circular logic, intiution more like your feelings. Your morals aren't objectively correct.

Why do you think the weak deserve help?
 
circular logic, intiution more like your feelings. Your morals aren't objectively correct.

Why do you think the weak deserve help?
I never claimed they were. objective morality doesn't exist, objective reality may not even exist.

my intuition
 
I never claimed they were. objective morality doesn't exist, objective reality may not even exist.

my intuition
so your entire philosophy is based on "my intiution", thus why would anyone listen to you? Seriously your defence of the weak only comes from an emotional standpoint.
 
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so your entire philosophy is based on "my intiution", thus why would anyone listen to you? Seriously your defence of the weak only comes from an emotional standpoint.
that's all anyone's philosophy is. in fact that is literally what philosophy is. otherwise it is called math/physics/logic, but even they are hardly objective
 
that's all anyone's philosophy is. in fact that is literally what philosophy is. otherwise it is called math/physics/logic, but even they are hardly objective
Right but your entire thing is "my feelings". If you were to say "i wish to reduce human suffering in general" it would make sense. You seem to be a utilitarian
 
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Right but your entire thing is "my feelings". If you were to say "i wish to reduce human suffering in general" it would make sense. You seem to be a utilitarian
same thing

you are the one getting emotional at an imagined difference
 
I see this all too often

Person A: completely btfo's person B with facts + logic

Person B: well you're just trolling :feelswah:
Who are you quoting on The trans suicides? Oh right im The one quoting The real studies JFL:feelshehe:
 
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Who are you quoting on The trans suicides? Oh right im The one quoting The real studies JFL:feelshehe:
@Crusile

you were well informed on this, what were the statistics you had?
 
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What The fuck are you two niggas on about JFL @Harold O'brien @FailedNormieManlet

Arguing on an incel forum while Tyler maher never heard of communism JFL
 
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What The fuck are you two niggas on about JFL @Harold O'brien @FailedNormieManlet

Arguing on an incel forum while Tyler maher never heard of communism JFL
Btw @FailedNormieManlet you mental mogg that fag hard tbh
 
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What The fuck are you two niggas on about JFL @Harold O'brien @FailedNormieManlet

Arguing on an incel forum while Tyler maher never heard of communism JFL
you made a blackpill presentation to your class...

at least I'm self aware enough to keep my autism contained
 
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How? You can be collectively strong as a people
Because most people are weak, under collectivism those majority weak become the leaders and thus won't allow the strong to the top.

Group vs individual
the priority of the group is to keep the group stable, they don't care for your individual growth
 
same thing

you are the one getting emotional at an imagined difference
why do you think i am emotional? As a utilitarian then you are surely aware of the weaknesses within your own philosophy
 
Because most people are weak, under collectivism those majority weak become the leaders and thus won't allow the strong to the top.

Group vs individual
the priority of the group is to keep the group stable, they don't care for your individual growth
Why can’t a strong leader make the collective equally strong?
 
Because most people are weak, under collectivism those majority weak become the leaders and thus won't allow the strong to the top.

Group vs individual
the priority of the group is to keep the group stable, they don't care for your individual growth
disagree, in collectivism the strong will still find their way to the top

if anything they will do so more often due to increased social mobility. strong people won't get held back by unfortunate birth circumstances as much
 
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Why can’t a strong leader make the collective equally strong?
because most of the collective can't be strong.

Like to put this in simple blackpill terms

You have chads and then u have normies

If we were all to have "chad morality" where banging loads of girls would be seen as a virtue and a great thing, the avg normie would feel awful and be resentful to chad.

So the normie creates his own morals, his lack of success with women becomes a virtue. Suddenly the normie is "pure" his lack of sex is actually a good thing, and chad? Chad is evil and immoral, he uses women and is not pure and will go to hell!!

The normie has now created his own moral system, he can now strike back at chad and carry out his revenge fantasy, the very thing which makes chad, chad is now a sin and he will be punished.

So this new normie ideology, it becomes popular amongst the masses. The normies have now made sex defacto evil, chads are evil, and because the majority simply win by numbers. The norm is now to not have sex, chads can no longer reach their potential and be proud in the strength.

That's essentially slave morality and how collectivism will fuck anyone over since it rewards the weak.
 
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why do you think i am emotional? As a utilitarian then you are surely aware of the weaknesses within your own philosophy
when an idea is presented with appeal to humanity/emotions you have a kneejerk reaction of bad

when the exact same idea is presented logically you find it more agreeable. that is a bias

I'm well aware utilitarianism has its flaws but it's a good starting point for the way I see the world. morality is far too complex to reduce into a single all-encompassing formula
 
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my bullied victims always seethe for me

@looksmaxxer234 @Leonardo DiCaprio @n0rthface etc etc :forcedsmile::forcedsmile::forcedsmile::forcedsmile:
 
my bullied victims always seethe for me

@looksmaxxer234 @Leonardo DiCaprio @n0rthface etc etc :forcedsmile::forcedsmile::forcedsmile::forcedsmile:
Literally don’t even know who you are
 
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when an idea is presented with appeal to humanity/emotions you have a kneejerk reaction of bad

when the exact same idea is presented logically you find it more agreeable. that is a bias

I'm well aware utilitarianism has its flaws but it's a good starting point for the way I see the world. morality is far too complex to reduce into a single all encompassing formula
I believe ideas coming from an emotional standpoint which are presented as objective is wrong and yes it annoys me since it interferes in my will to power.

So at one point do you think individualism should triumph over the group? What about in cases of justice?
 
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my bullied victims always seethe for me

@looksmaxxer234 @Leonardo DiCaprio @n0rthface etc etc :forcedsmile::forcedsmile::forcedsmile::forcedsmile:
You literally asked mods to delete my thread on you jfl

@n0rthface @Leonardo DiCaprio
 
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