achivable natty?

If this was achievable natty for most men even after 10 years, nobody would consider juicing.
Don't trust posers here and elsewhere, natty is a meme for 90%+ of men.
You will know if you're gifted or not after a couple years of serious lifting.
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Good job bro. However if you were to cut down to where you could see your lower ab veins a lot of that size would disappear.
Cutting to that level is very hard to maintain natty.
 
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absolutely fucking not.
Maybe that muscle mass is achieveable given height and frame but at that leaness not a single chance in hell thats natty
 
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absolutely fucking not.
Maybe that muscle mass is achieveable given height and frame but at that leaness not a single chance in hell thats natty

Loads of meat-heads who dedicate strong sessions to the gyms can achieve that mass natty. What they can't do is drop in body fat and keep it.

I can't believe it's 2020 and we still have 15 year old teenagers on here being sold the pipe dream by physique models who aren't open and honest.
 
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