Acne

[genesis11]

I need help with my acne i struggle with regular acne and post inflammatory erythema any recommendations of what to use would ghkcu be a suitable option

 

[Orka]

I need help with my acne i struggle with regular acne and post inflammatory erythema any recommendations of what to use would ghkcu be a suitable option View attachment 4357827

Accutane... why avoid it?

 

[IBlameClavicular0]

Accutane... why avoid it?

besides spamming spf and moisturizer bcs your skin gets photosensitive and dry asf, is there any other precaution you'd recommend for someone on accutane?

 

[Orka]

besides spamming spf and moisturizer bcs your skin gets photosensitive and dry asf, is there any other precaution you'd recommend for someone on accutane?

Vaseline for your lips every day, and don't do anything intense to ur skin while on accutane

I recently messed up and did vit c after not letting my skin barrier heal from tret and fucked my face up completely, was red for a week I think

 

[htn from the staes]

I need help with my acne i struggle with regular acne and post inflammatory erythema any recommendations of what to use would ghkcu be a suitable option View attachment 4357827

go to a dermitoligest, one helped me a lot

 

[TrueEveSlayer]

I need help with my acne i struggle with regular acne and post inflammatory erythema any recommendations of what to use would ghkcu be a suitable option View attachment 4357827

dont use accutane its a drug and a fuckass one. Hop on retinoids like tretition. Apply only at night get it perscribed by a doctor, they will easily give it to you since you qualify.

 

[theprox]

dont use accutane its a drug and a fuckass one. Hop on retinoids like tretition. Apply only at night get it perscribed by a doctor, they will easily give it to you since you qualify.

My nigga said accutane is a fuckass drug, how lowiq are u.

 

[TrueEveSlayer]

My nigga said accutane is a fuckass drug, how lowiq are u.

buddy your get some subhuman genes if you are clinging to that fuckass drug or defending it like a keyboard warrior. Stay in the pits of ltns I guess

 

[IBlameClavicular0]

Vaseline for your lips every day, and don't do anything intense to ur skin while on accutane

I recently messed up and did vit c after not letting my skin barrier hear from tret and fucked my face up completely, was red for a week I think

so while on accutane am I supposed to stop even day-to-day skincare routine products like niancinamide, azelaic acid, and exfoliants (like salicylic acid)?

and if so, would this also apply to microdose regimens (10mg EOD)?

 

[IBlameClavicular0]

buddy your get some subhuman genes if you are clinging to that fuckass drug or defending it like a keyboard warrior. Stay in the pits of ltns I guess

why do u think accutane is that bad?

 

[Orka]

so while on accutane am I supposed to stop even day-to-day skincare routine products like niancinamide, azelaic acid, and exfoliants (like salicylic acid)?

and if so, would this also apply to microdose regimens (10mg EOD)?

yes, especially exfoliants

you can try azelaic acid and niancinamide if you're microdosing, but still be careful

i deadass couldn't touch my face after that tret situation, shits horrific

 

[Orka]

dont use accutane its a drug and a fuckass one. Hop on retinoids like tretition.

Accutane is a retinoid. Just like tret.

what are you talking about?

 

[IBlameClavicular0]

yes, especially exfoliants

you can try azelaic acid and niancinamide if you're microdosing, but still be careful

i deadass couldn't touch my face after that tret situation, shits horrific

damnnn

but you've been doing tret instead of accutane?

 

[TrueEveSlayer]

why do u think accutane is that bad?

Aged look, dry skin, dry lips, lowers dht, lowers test, lowers IGF-1, harms liver, acne bounceback, depression and mood swings, worsens eye bags, during treatment the skin looks worse.

 

[Orka]

damnnn

but you've been doing tret instead of accutane?

yeah, my skin is not bad enough to the point where i really need accutane, and I already have a ton of it anyways, I've just lowered the dosages and using 0.025% every 2-3 days now as opposed to 0.05% every day like I was using before

 

[TrueEveSlayer]

Accutane is a retinoid. Just like tret.

what are you talking about?

Topical Use = Targeted Action, Fewer Systemic Effects

Its also designed for long term, With life long benefits with not stopping point.

 

[theprox]

Accutane is a retinoid. Just like tret.

what are you talking about?

The LowIq org user stays in its natural state of coping, and therefore does not show statistics, research or proof, and also likes to misinform. Please do not interact with this special phenomenon as its just seething.

 

[TrueEveSlayer]

The LowIq org user stays in its natural state of coping, and therefore does not show statistics, research or proof, and also likes to misinform. Please do not interact with this special phenomenon as its just seething.

Low inhib stop speaking out

 

[theprox]

Low inhib stop speaking out

jfl, ur sitting here saying accutane isnt a miracle drug. What the fuck are u on about.

 

[TrueEveSlayer]

jfl, ur sitting here saying accutane isnt a miracle drug. What the fuck are u on about.

brother is not a grey yet is unknowing

 

[Orka]

Aged look, dry skin, dry lips, lowers dht, lowers test, lowers IGF-1, harms liver, acne bounceback, depression and mood swings, worsens eye bags, during treatment the skin looks worse.

what an absolute retard wow

1. You implied accutane (a retinoid) isnt a retinoid
now I'll just start replying to segments individually

dry skin, dry lips

temporarily, this dissapears a bit after you use it

lowers test, lowers IGF-1

Wrong, even if it causes it then itd be insignificant amounts and would instantly quickly back

depression and mood swings

wtf are you talking about, where are you getting this bullshit from

worsens eye bags, during treatment the skin looks worse.

"worsens eyebags" find me a study on this, what? I mean it makes your skin thinner but so does like every retinoid there is?? wtf

and yes it makes your skin look worse at the start.. that's called a purging phase. Tret also has a purging phase

Topical Use = Targeted Action, Fewer Systemic Effects

Its also designed for long term, With life long benefits with not stopping point.

You're acting like you get cancer from the systematic effects, barely anything happens, minor liver damage MIGHT happen with SOME people, but you get it checked when on accutane with your derma anyways?


wtf is this guy on

 

[Orka]

Aged look, dry skin, dry lips, lowers dht, lowers test, lowers IGF-1, harms liver, acne bounceback, depression and mood swings, worsens eye bags, during treatment the skin looks worse.

@genesis11 just get on accutane, read my reply above, this guy is clueless

 

[TrueEveSlayer]

what an absolute retard wow

1. You implied accutane (a retinoid) isnt a retinoid
now I'll just start replying to segments individually


temporarily, this dissapears a bit after you use it

Wrong, even if it causes it then itd be insignificant amounts and would instantly quickly back

wtf are you talking about, where are you getting this bullshit from

"worsens eyebags" find me a study on this, what? I mean it makes your skin thinner but so does like every retinoid there is?? wtf

and yes it makes your skin look worse at the start.. that's called a purging phase. Tret also has a purging phase

You're acting like you get cancer from the systematic effects, barely anything happens, minor liver damage MIGHT happen with SOME people, but you get it checked when on accutane with your derma anyways?


wtf is this guy on

True Scotsman ahh fallacy

Link a source eyy

 

[theprox]

what an absolute retard wow

1. You implied accutane (a retinoid) isnt a retinoid
now I'll just start replying to segments individually


temporarily, this dissapears a bit after you use it

Wrong, even if it causes it then itd be insignificant amounts and would instantly quickly back

wtf are you talking about, where are you getting this bullshit from

"worsens eyebags" find me a study on this, what? I mean it makes your skin thinner but so does like every retinoid there is?? wtf

and yes it makes your skin look worse at the start.. that's called a purging phase. Tret also has a purging phase

You're acting like you get cancer from the systematic effects, barely anything happens, minor liver damage MIGHT happen with SOME people, but you get it checked when on accutane with your derma anyways?


wtf is this guy on

@genesis11 just get on accutane, read my reply above, this guy is clueless

Good fucking shit

 

[Orka]

True Scotsman ahh fallacy

Link a source eyy

if all your claims were correct then nobody should be getting on accutane

that is quite an accusation to put out without any sort of evidence...?

 

[IBlameClavicular0]

True Scotsman ahh fallacy

Link a source eyy

you're the one who needs to link sources

 

[TrueEveSlayer]

if all your claims were correct then nobody should be getting on accutane

that is quite an accusation to put out without any sort of evidence...?

You have the vision of a mole rat with one eye. Its not a dichotomy, simply put tret is superior

 

[Orka]

You have the vision of a mole rat with one eye. Its not a dichotomy, simply put tret is superior

I appreciate how you didn't counter any of my arguments, and just said "tret is superior" just for fun

you have the IQ of a mole rat with one eye.

 

[TrueEveSlayer]

I appreciate how you didn't counter any of my arguments, and just said "tret is superior" just for fun

you have the IQ of a mole rat with one eye.

You don't have to defend against shit arguments this isn't a hunter douglass debate you fucking manlet

 

[Orka]

You don't have to defend against shit arguments this isn't a hunter douglass debate you fucking manlet

> accutane lowers your test, igf-1, fucks your liver, makes your eyebags worse
> proof?
> tret is better than accutane
> idc, ur arguments are bad, fuck u manlet

every day the forums average iq gets lower and lower thanks to new users like you.

I'm not replying any further, if OP wants to listen to a raging faggot like yourself, so be it. Not my problem

 

[genesis11]

> accutane lowers your test, igf-1, fucks your liver, makes your eyebags worse
> proof?
> tret is better than accutane
> idc, ur arguments are bad, fuck u manlet

every day the forums average iq gets lower and lower thanks to new users like you.

I'm not replying any further, if OP wants to listen to a raging faggot like yourself, so be it. Not my problem

if I do start accutane do you recommend a certain dosage or regimen or is that up to dermatologist

 

[TrueEveSlayer]

> accutane lowers your test, igf-1, fucks your liver, makes your eyebags worse
> proof?
> tret is better than accutane
> idc, ur arguments are bad, fuck u manlet

every day the forums average iq gets lower and lower thanks to new users like you.

I'm not replying any further, if OP wants to listen to a raging faggot like yourself, so be it. Not my problem

Self-Reported Long-Term Side Effects of Isotretinoin: A Case Series - JDDonline - Journal of Drugs in Dermatology

INTRODUCTION Isotretinoin is considered the gold standard treatment for severe nodulocystic acne, though it has been the subject of controversy in the media for concerns related to adverse psychiatric effects....

jddonline.com

Accutane: What Are the Side Effects on the Body?

Isotretinoin (Accutane) is a medication used to treat acne. Learn more about the effects of this drug on the body.

www.healthline.com

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamadermatology/fullarticle/2737332

Use of isotretinoin and risk of depression in patients with acne: a systematic review and meta-analysis - PMC

This study aimed to investigate the association between the use of isotretinoin and the risk of depression in patients with acne. This was a meta-analysis in which the standardised mean difference (SMD) and the relative risk (RR) were used for data ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Correction: Use of isotretinoin and risk of depression in patients with acne: a systematic review and meta-analysis - PMC

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Adverse Events in Isotretinoin Therapy: A Single-Arm Meta-Analysis - PMC

Isotretinoin (ISO) is an oral prescription-only retinoid, well known for its acne-treating effect. However, it affects a substantial number of human cell types, causing a broad spectrum of adverse effects. The purpose of this study is to establish ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Accutane side effects: Weight, fertility, and more

Accutane is associated with many side effects. Some may be severe and require medical attention. This article examines the various side effects of Accutane.

www.medicalnewstoday.com

Study Explores Acne Relapse Rates After Isotretinoin

Discover a study that revealed that 22.5% of patients experienced acne relapse, and 8.2% required isotretinoin retrial.

www.emjreviews.com

Your a fucking idiot

 

[TrueEveSlayer]

 

[Orka]

Self-Reported Long-Term Side Effects of Isotretinoin: A Case Series - JDDonline - Journal of Drugs in Dermatology

INTRODUCTION Isotretinoin is considered the gold standard treatment for severe nodulocystic acne, though it has been the subject of controversy in the media for concerns related to adverse psychiatric effects....

jddonline.com

Accutane: What Are the Side Effects on the Body?

Isotretinoin (Accutane) is a medication used to treat acne. Learn more about the effects of this drug on the body.

www.healthline.com

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamadermatology/fullarticle/2737332

Use of isotretinoin and risk of depression in patients with acne: a systematic review and meta-analysis - PMC

This study aimed to investigate the association between the use of isotretinoin and the risk of depression in patients with acne. This was a meta-analysis in which the standardised mean difference (SMD) and the relative risk (RR) were used for data ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Correction: Use of isotretinoin and risk of depression in patients with acne: a systematic review and meta-analysis - PMC

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Adverse Events in Isotretinoin Therapy: A Single-Arm Meta-Analysis - PMC

Isotretinoin (ISO) is an oral prescription-only retinoid, well known for its acne-treating effect. However, it affects a substantial number of human cell types, causing a broad spectrum of adverse effects. The purpose of this study is to establish ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Accutane side effects: Weight, fertility, and more

Accutane is associated with many side effects. Some may be severe and require medical attention. This article examines the various side effects of Accutane.

www.medicalnewstoday.com

Study Explores Acne Relapse Rates After Isotretinoin

Discover a study that revealed that 22.5% of patients experienced acne relapse, and 8.2% required isotretinoin retrial.

www.emjreviews.com

Your a fucking idiot

Oh my god are we seriously doing this

Isotretinoin treatment for acne and risk of depression: A systematic review and meta-analysis - PubMed

Isotretinoin treatment for acne does not appear to be associated with an increased risk for depression. Moreover, the treatment of acne appears to ameliorate depressive symptoms.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Result: Thirty-one studies met the inclusion criteria. In the controlled studies, the change in depression scores from baseline was not significantly different between patients receiving isotretinoin treatment and those receiving an alternative treatment (standardized mean difference [SMD] -0.334, 95% confidence interval [CI] -0.680 to 0.011). The prevalence of depression after isotretinoin treatment significantly declined (relative risk [RR] 0.588, 95% CI 0.382-0.904). The mean depression scores significantly decreased from baseline (SMD -0.335, 95% CI -0.498 to -0.172).

Depression: Not significant

Did you even read the articles you sent?

why would you send a correction article if you went through it?

Not to mention you cite "emjreviews" which is completely garbage, meaning that 2 of the links in your list are already useless

And acne relapses after accutane & tretinoin, that's how retinoids work, relapsing isnt avoidable? what?

Your a fucking idiot

You're*
This serves as a correction and redirection. You're making a fool of yourself by citing garbage sources and not reading what you're sending yourself

View attachment 4357912View attachment 4357909

and wtf is this?? are you citing a study made on a literal single-digit amount of people to support your point? This doesn't take into account any external factors, if I did a study on 20 people who were on accutane, and just so happened to have blasted 1g of test in the background, I can't conclude that accutane causes muscle growth, this is an uncontrolled environment on an INSANELY little amount of people, teenagers are prone to depression, especially nowadays.

if I do start accutane do you recommend a certain dosage or regimen or is that up to dermatologist

your derma will decide, but 25-35mg to start with is normal

As a background note, I'm not interested in "debating" somebody who clearly does not look through their sources, which implies you're chatgpting all of this, my reply will likely be pasted entirely into your GPT conversation.

I've made a point about how online debates are useless nowadays because of the ability to paste shit into gpt and copy the response, this is going nowhere, I'll keep replying, you'll keep gpt-ing, no point in this.

If accutane was as bad as you say it is, it wouldn't be the gold standard.

 

[TrueEveSlayer]

Oh my god are we seriously doing this

Isotretinoin treatment for acne and risk of depression: A systematic review and meta-analysis - PubMed

Isotretinoin treatment for acne does not appear to be associated with an increased risk for depression. Moreover, the treatment of acne appears to ameliorate depressive symptoms.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Result: Thirty-one studies met the inclusion criteria. In the controlled studies, the change in depression scores from baseline was not significantly different between patients receiving isotretinoin treatment and those receiving an alternative treatment (standardized mean difference [SMD] -0.334, 95% confidence interval [CI] -0.680 to 0.011). The prevalence of depression after isotretinoin treatment significantly declined (relative risk [RR] 0.588, 95% CI 0.382-0.904). The mean depression scores significantly decreased from baseline (SMD -0.335, 95% CI -0.498 to -0.172).

Depression: Not significant

Did you even read the articles you sent?
View attachment 4357919
why would you send a correction article if you went through it?

Not to mention you cite "emjreviews" which is completely garbage, meaning that 2 of the links in your list are already useless

And acne relapses after accutane & tretinoin, that's how retinoids work, relapsing isnt avoidable? what?


You're*
This serves as a correction and redirection. You're making a fool of yourself by citing garbage sources and not reading what you're sending yourself


and wtf is this?? are you citing a study made on a literal single-digit amount of people to support your point? This doesn't take into account any external factors, if I did a study on 20 people who were on accutane, and just so happened to have blasted 1g of test in the background, I can't conclude that accutane causes muscle growth, this is an uncontrolled environment on an INSANELY little amount of people, teenagers are prone to depression, especially nowadays.


your derma will decide, but 25-35mg to start with is normal

As a background note, I'm not interested in "debating" somebody who clearly does not look through their sources, which implies you're chatgpting all of this, my reply will likely be pasted entirely into your GPT conversation.

I've made a point about how online debates are useless nowadays because of the ability to paste shit into gpt and copy the response, this is going nowhere, I'll keep replying, you'll keep gpt-ing, no point in this.

If accutane was as bad as you say it is, it wouldn't be the gold standard.

nobody actually takes you seriously bud

 

[pheenon]

I need help with my acne i struggle with regular acne and post inflammatory erythema any recommendations of what to use would ghkcu be a suitable option View attachment 4357827

Retinoids anything else is cope

 

[Orka]

nobody actually takes you seriously bud

its just us in this conversation, i don't know who you're talking about

I'm assuming your only purpose of being here is to troll

goodnight anyways, its 4am here

 

[TrueEveSlayer]

its just us in this conversation, i don't know who you're talking about

I'm assuming your only purpose of being here is to troll

goodnight anyways, its 4am here

in the slums of sweden

 

[Avgguyatgrocerystor]

Accutane will be better