Actual natty limit

[FaceandHFD]

that is if you have good frame

 

[needsolution]

time to rope

 

[Swolepenisman]

Tyler durden is Matty

 

[mikeock]

Muscle building is incredibly genetics dependent. No use comparing yourself with the genetic 0.0001% (NFL players). Just lift and see how far you can go without bloating.

 

[AutisticBeaner]

first guy is a pretty impressive specimen

 

[Madhate]

JFL at your IQ if you think PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL players are FUCKING NATTY LMFAO

 

[Stare]

Depends on your genetics and how hard you train.
Some guys can get near Men's Physique level while natty (Jeff Seid's first time competing) and some other dudes will look like shit even after years of training.
The pic you posted is a good example of what most men will achiev in 2 years of training natty but that's definitely not the limit.

 

[Equinox]

for chad with wide bones and high test yea

for the average natty normie:

both 10 years lifting btw

 

[Chadeep]

Genetics mog everything bro.

 

[Alexanderr]

Would the “natty limit” not depend from person to person? Genetics play a role, no?

 

[FaceandHFD]

JFL at your IQ if you think PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL players are FUCKING NATTY LMFAO

i'm talking in terms of fullness
you can get this physique with good frame and training for hypertrophy at normal bodyfat

for chad with wide bones and high test yea

for the average natty normie:

both 10 years lifting btw

both are fake natties

 

[TitusA]

Thing is with being natty is you never get the blown up shoulders/upperback bcause of androgen receptor density their, and that rly improves ur look. Also u try and cut really lean natty to rly bring out ur facial features ur gonna start losing muscle.

 

[Deleted member 4209]

for chad with wide bones and high test yea

for the average natty normie:

both 10 years lifting btw

scott herman is good example of the results of years of living, eating, sleeping BBing for a natural. u have to dedicate all ur time to do it and even then there is a chance he uses.

 

[Looksmax305]

Posts elite NFL athlete and people think physiques even way beyond that are achievable for the average natty person lmao

Depends on your genetics and how hard you train.
Some guys can get near Men's Physique level while natty (Jeff Seid's first time competing) and some other dudes will look like shit even after years of training.
The pic you posted is a good example of what most men will achiev in 2 years of training natty but that's definitely not the limit.

LMAOOOO. Yep hall of fame line backer luke kechley, with one in a billion genetics. Just train two years bro

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

Thing is with being natty is you never get the blown up shoulders/upperback bcause of androgen receptor density their, and that rly improves ur look. Also u try and cut really lean natty to rly bring out ur facial features ur gonna start losing muscle.

Elab?

 

[FaceandHFD]

Posts elite NFL athlete and people think physiques even way beyond that are achievable for the average natty person lmao

people here are completely delusional about lifting...you need roids to really look bigger

 

[Looksmax305]

people here are completely delusional about lifting...you need roids to really look bigger

Scott Herman is a good example if ur short have top tier genetics and dedicate your entire life to fitness. I think he’s natty, but people be like “omg even with shit genetics you could achieve Scott Herman’s body within a year of working out”

 

[TitusA]

@PubertyMaxxer Steroids allow you to hold muscle in a big calorie defecit. Where-as a natty ur gna start losing muscle once you drop below 9-10 percent bf. That's just test aswell. U take a strong androgen like tren or anadrol and u can be on rly low amounts of calories for a long time and not lose any muscle. As for the point about the shoulders/upper back/chest u have more androgen receptors in those areas (that's why big capped/rounded delts are a tell tale sign of none natty) so when u start taking steroids those areas really blow up and make u look considerably wider (width is massively important). When u got that look of width/big frame and full muscles at a low bf percent so ur bodys lean and ur facial features are defined that rly does it for girls.

 

[godlikesz]

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[PubertyMaxxer]

@PubertyMaxxer Steroids allow you to hold muscle in a big calorie defecit. Where-as a natty ur gna start losing muscle once you drop below 9-10 percent bf. That's just test aswell. U take a strong androgen like tren or anadrol and u can be on rly low amounts of calories for a long time and not lose any muscle. As for the point about the shoulders/upper back/chest u have more androgen receptors in those areas (that's why big capped/rounded delts are a tell tale sign of none natty) so when u start taking steroids those areas really blow up and make u look considerably wider (width is massively important). When u got that look of width/big frame and full muscles at a low bf percent so ur bodys lean and ur facial features are defined that rly does it for girls.

What about high endogenous Testosteron (1000+ng/dl) and IGF1 Levels ( 700+ng/dl)? Could i not just get wide shoulders/back with it without needing roids?

 

[Moggy]

This is probably the peak natural physique for average genetic incels who dedicate years of their lives to gymcelling and perfect nutrition.

This is under perfect lighting, pump, photoshop, etc.

This is under more realistic conditions

 

[TitusA]

@PubertyMaxxer If u have naturally wide frame/clavicles you could. But you couldnt maintain full muscles in a cut like while on steroids.

 

[Stare]

Posts elite NFL athlete and people think physiques even way beyond that are achievable for the average natty person lmao

LMAOOOO. Yep hall of fame line backer luke kechley, with one in a billion genetics. Just train two years bro

His muscles are small. If you train hard for 2 years and don't get the same physique you are either not training hard enough or your genetics are fucked.
LMAO if you think this is 1 in one billion genetics. Jeff Seid is one in one billion genetics, you fucking DYEL

 

[Looksmax305]

His muscles are small. If you train hard for 2 years and don't get the same physique you are either not training hard enough or your genetics are fucked.

Top genetics on the planet with top tier dedication to athletics top tier coaching and very likely due to competitiveness in his field PED use. But yeah anyone can look like that with jus a lil two years

 

[ChaddeusPeuterschmit]

really shit thread lol

 

[Deleted member 2205]

for chad with wide bones and high test yea

for the average natty normie:

both 10 years lifting btw

Jfl he's probably looked the same for stoest 5 years

 

[Stare]

Top genetics on the planet with top tier dedication to athletics top tier coaching and very likely due to competitiveness in his field PED use. But yeah anyone can look like that with jus a lil two years

LMAO if you think this is 1 in one billion genetics. Jeff Seid is one in one billion genetics, you fucking DYEL

 

[Looksmax305]

LMAO if you think this is 1 in one billion genetics. Jeff Seid is one in one billion genetics, you fucking DYEL

I guarantee my physique destroys yours. Lmao go lift for more than 6 months and tell me what’s achievable for an average person

LMAO if you think this is 1 in one billion genetics. Jeff Seid is one in one billion genetics, you fucking DYEL

Post physique if you looks like shit what u say means absolutely nothing

if you think the average 6”3 person can look like this natty you literally have no idea what ur talking about. Possibly some 5”4 above average dude could look like this after two years of reallydedicated lifting. But it won’t look the same due to height

 

[Vidyacoper]

FUCKKK
i wish steroids didnt make u lose hair, i dont even care about any of the other side effects (other than like bloat and skin)
it is what it is

 

[Looksmax305]

Scott Herman is what most should strive for but people act like his physique is so easy to obtain. He’s literal job is his physique. Mind you I’ve seen Scott Herman in person and he’s a Manlet so if ur above average height temper expectations

 

[Deleted]

for chad with wide bones and high test yea

for the average natty normie:

both 10 years lifting btw

Looks like cucks

 

[Stare]

I guarantee my physique destroys yours. Lmao go lift for more than 6 months and tell me what’s achievable for an average person

Post physique if you looks like shit what u say means absolutely nothing

if you think the average 6”3 person can look like this natty you literally have no idea what ur talking about. Possibly some 5”4 above average dude could look like this after two years of reallydedicated lifting. But it won’t look the same due to height

You are a newbie, DYEL. You are flexing your chest so hard on your AVI to make it pop out but it still look like shit, your max bench press must be very low.
I will post my 46cm biceps so you can keep crying

 

[Looksmax305]

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You are a newbie, DYEL. You are flexing your chest so hard on your AVI to make it pop out but it still look like shit, your max bench press must be very low.
I will post my 46cm biceps so you can keep crying

I’ve incline benched 315 at 185 pounds lmao at this pic of your fat cep I’m out of here

asks for pic of physique*
send pale flabby arm with no veins that every fat kid has *

 

[Stare]

I’ve incline benched 315 at 185 pounds lmao at this pic of your fat cep I’m out of here

keep crying, DYEL. You would be able to tell the diference if you didn't have 30cm biceps
And no, you don't incline bench 315 with that small chest

 

[Looksmax305]

keep crying, DYEL. You would be able to tell the diference if you didn't have 30cm biceps
And no, you don't incline bench 315 with that small chest

I literally have a video but I’m arguing with a fat kid that has been lifting for 6 months

 

[Stare]

I’ve incline benched 315 at 185 pounds lmao at this pic of your fat cep I’m out of here

asks for pic of physique*
send pale flabby arm with no veins that every fat kid has *

flabby? this is called triceps, you nigger, you would know if you had one

 

[Looksmax305]

flabby? this is called triceps, you nigger, you would know if you had one

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[Stare]

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Here it's, DYEL
Chest bigger than yours, arms probably 20cm bigger than yours and natty.

 

[Looksmax305]

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[FatJattMofo]

Dude on right looks like special books for special kids dude

 

[Stare]

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Keep barking

 

[Deleted member 4464]

natty limit is different for everyone, better go and find yours instead of comparing with professional athletes

 

[Deleted member 5393]

STAY NATURAL BROS

 

[TitusA]

@Stare Jeff Seid is 100 percent not natty ur monging out and you know nothing about steroids or the subject if u suggest he is.

 

[Chintuck22]

He have shit bone structure, i drew line where his clavicles should insert, he could've benefit more shoukder width

It's ideal to start roiding once you reached your limit

11 years of training plus 50mg of test (I'm assuming).

 

[TitusA]

@Vidyacoper Most ppl can take test at moderate dosages without losing hair. Especially when using fin or dut. Just stay away from stuff like winstrol/masteron and strong androgens like tren if worried about ur hair.

 

[Deleted member 5393]

@Vidyacoper Most ppl can take test at moderate dosages without losing hair. Especially when using fin or dut. Just stay away from stuff like winstrol/masteron and strong androgens like tren if worried about ur hair.

why even juice without WINstrol and MASTERon

why even juice without DHT the king hormone

testosterone is WEAK. DHT is 5 times more androgenic. go DHT or GO HOME.

 

[Stare]

@Stare Jeff Seid is 100 percent not natty ur monging out and you know nothing about steroids or the subject if u suggest he is.

He isn't natty right now, even a kid with zyka virus knows that, but look at his pictures from high school and from his first competition, he definitely was natty back then
Also watch Greg Doucette video about him

 

[Deleted member 5393]

He isn't natty right now, even a kid with zyka virus knows that, but look at his pictures from high school and from his first competition, he definitely was natty back then
Also watch Greg Doucette video about him

Why is he 10x bigger than u natty when he was 15

u have manboobs bro.

 

[Stare]

Why is he 10x bigger than u natty when he was 15

u have manboobs bro.

I can bench 2 of you for reps lmao