Ageing. For the Normie man.

[eduardkoopman]

any way to fix it?

nothing gives fun anymore, before even playing games on 800€ setup was fun, now i have 4000€ hyper setup and cba playing anything.

True that. Fun copes, all have an end.

i also hate people, i became sociopath i have two friends i know for years and i don’t wanna make any more friends

Hating people in general, limits alot of potential copes. Some people, that love people in general, can find their copes and fire motivation, for doing things that they think serves people/humanity.

any way to fix it?

Hedonistic fun, always has an pretty quick end as a cope.
Copes build around purpose, can make people last longer to feel fire and motivation. But one than already first need to be able to delude oneself, that purpose is actually something worthwhile, true, and good. While the objective reality of purpose is, that nothing has purpose. And that only the human concept of purpose is there, to give humans motivation and feel better. So it's a cope in the human psychology, not based on truth or reality.
I think a sense of purpose, or purposes, is what can keep alot of people going feeling decently well and motivated to endure the life it's suffering. Tbh, nothing hedonistic in my old ass life, can give me much joy for any longer time anymore. That's gone for me also. While I could as a young guy, enjoy alot copes like games or certain parties or whatever.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Aging for normie tier men, the whole story as I see it.

Mid 30’s old dude, checking in with experience and observations about aging.
All this, is written from a normie/average looking man perspective

There are imo, 2 wrong believes about aging as a normie-tier man:

1. It’s game over after 25.

2. All (Normie) men age like fine wine, and everything gets better with age.



My history and experience
1. Basically incel from teens until mid 20’s. Due to normie tier looks + socially reserved/introverted + no status or money. A lot of rejections.
2. Mid 20’s to late 20’s; got a little results (like 1%) still mainly rejections but some lays, short term relationships and so on with normie tier women. What had changed? the main factor was the size of the possible dating pool and I got a bit more money and thus status.
3. late 30’s to mid 30’s. Entered a LTR with a normie tier woman, and after the break up for the first times experienced some women initiating first contact with me (woman coming up to me asking if I’m single, trying to set me up, and small innuendos and stuff like that) happened about a handful of times in the past 2 years (before that NEVER, I had to do 100% of the chasing). What had changed? the main factor was the size of the possible dating pool increased even more and the male competition (my age) got less.



Aging; and ascending or dropping to a subhuman
1. If you get older as a normie man and become: fat, or balding (and can’t rock a bald head), or ugly wrinkled/ugly skin. Then, it’s game over and you even dropped from normie level to subhuman.
2. If you get older as a normie man and DON’T become: fat, or balding (or you can rock a bald head), or ugly wrinkled/ugly skin. Then, you’re ascending massively from the age peer men competition (and even women also). Because most men (and women) as they get older do become, fat, or ugly bald(ing) or get ugly skin.



Dating pool size change. The big game changer with aging for normie men.

1. dating pool size when young normie man
When your young normie man, your dating pool is small.
Most women won’t date men younger then themselves, when that young men is a normie. So it’s only peer aged (aka young) women, that are in your dating pool. And these young women, have Hugh SMV (Sexual Market Value). She (young women) are wanted by all Chads, young Chads, older Chads, and all men whatever age and looks level. Their SMV is through the roof.
Basically, as a normie young man. Your dating pool is really small, and the competition is massive. Being incel, or having very low luck (like 1% orso) is the norm.



2. dating pool size when older (past early 30’s) normie man, that is NOT fat, not ugly bald(ing), and not ugly skin.
When your this type of older man, your dating pool is much bigger then in your youth. In your own age group (male competition same age), you have risen from middle range to more top range or above average. Just for not getting fat, ugly bald or ugly skinned.
Normie women (or below that) that are aged 10 years younger and women aged 10 years older will want to be with you or give you a chance.
A hugh increase in option, and attention. Now with younger women, you still need to do the chasing as mr. normie mid 30’s. But, you’ll also get attention from same aged women (or older then you). Now, being incel is not the case anymore, if such a dude is sexless it’s due to his standards. So it’s volcel.

One last thing. When you're a normie young man. More if not most same aged men look equal or better then you. Because all thse young men still have often: not fat; full head of hair, smooth youthfull skin. So if you're a young man, it's nothing special that you're not fat, not ugly-bald, and ahev nice skin.
But when you're older (like mid 30's already), all off a sudden it's special that you are: not fat, full head of hair, not ugly-bald, and have nice skin (not overly wrinkled).

Here graph on the amount of #-encounters for men with age. AND don’t forget, this includes all the men (about 50%) that got fat, or bad-bald, or ugly skinned with age.
One can only imagine, the increase for the normie men that didn’t get fat, or bad-bald, or ugly skin.

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Also, see.
The graph on a mans desirability with age. It’s growing with age. And again, THIS INCLUDES all the men that got fat, bad-bald, ugly skinned with age. Imagine the Peer-ascending compared with other same aged me.

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Normie old man, fucking Stacy’s now?
Above story, might seems like a normie old men that didn’t get fat, bad-bald, ugly. Has ascended to fucking young Stacies. (that’s what I thought, listening as a young men to “red pilled” older dudes.
And no, that is wrong. It’s not my experience at all, that “mr. well aged Normie” is now fucking young Stacy’s. (maybe over the hill Stacy’s, but then it’s not a Stacy anymore imo but a former Stacy.)

The real story, of the options of older normie dude that aged well.
1. If I go for young Stacy’s now as a very well aged normie 35 year old dude. I will still get rejected 99.9+% or the time. In that sense, nothing changed from when young.
2. With normie-tier young women (below 25), I now have a little higher chance (because my money and Status improved a little bit). But overall, still pretty much the same as in my 20’s where I would need to do all the chasing and get rejected 90+% of the time.
3. Women past the age of 28 orso (that are normie tier or below). This is where all the extra options come from now, for “mr. well aged Normie”. Plenty have serious baggage I noticed. Plenty are seriously bad options to date in a long term way (with very high costs/baggage/sacrifice). Some are okay-ish in baggage. Some will hit the wall hard in the near-ish future, etc..

These women in group number 3. Will regularly do some chasing, and make it easy for mr. well aged normie. Now for the first time in mr. normies life, does he have easy-ish/easier access to sex or romantic validation. I personally was surprised, when this first happened to me. I was also unsure, what to do. But, it does feel nice. Or at least nicer, then when I was young and got 0 attention and had to do ALL the chasing.

To us a food metaphor.
First, I wasn’t even allowed in McDonalds.
But now, I get McDonalds offered sometimes and with some luck sometimes even get allowed into a mid range restaurant. Fine dining, is out of the option.


This, is the real story, as I see it. I'm to tired, to type the other things I also wanted to say (mainly adding of data).
Overall, I love aging in this aspect. Because, as I aged. I moved out of incel, into: first being able to bang normie women with alot of effort/chasing. And now as older, I can even get normie or below normie women sometimes with little chasing/effort. So aging, made me move out of incel-hood, into fucking normie and below that women.
I could do so, because I have aged well so far (aka, not fat, still full head of hair, smooth skin of a mid twenty year old).

Funny, to see people having dug up. Thise old ass essay from me.

Funny note. Currently I am in early 40's; and in a relationship with a woman aged 25.
I guess I myself now kinda life or have done, what I thought was the reality as I wrote it in that essay back than.
Thing is, I don't look early 40's. I look probably 10 years younger.


Peace out, fellow oldcells.