AMA about roiding (and other compounds aswell)

jeff1234 said:
He can consider both. Both are great.
I said nobivolol now and not eplerenone because chadbeingmade reminded me that it’s simply better for treating bloating.
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No, Nebivolol is better if the bloat is consequent to HGH usage via the sympathetic/renin-aldosterone axis.
Eplerenone is better.
You don't know what you're talking about, like I said initially.
Stop recommending shit.
 
aids said:
You're just reciting what other people say in this thread atp.
You recommended Eplerenone for bloat in the previous page, now Nebivolol after chadisbeingmade recommended it for bloat consequent to HGH usage, which in this case it is not, so he should not use Nebivolol.
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I mentioned eplerenone earlier because it’s a proven aldosterone antagonist, great for general water retention. Then I brought up nebivolol after being reminded of how it works in the context of HGH (that’s what he probably meant).
He talked about HGH then asked “for bloating, what is better”,
aids said:
No, Nebivolol is better if the bloat is consequent to HGH usage via the sympathetic/renin-aldosterone axis.
Eplerenone is better.
You don't know what you're talking about, like I said initially.
Stop recommending shit.
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again, he probably meant the bloat that is caused by HGH, not in general that’s why I said nobivolol.

I know that: Eplerenone = direct aldosterone blockade, Nebivolol = sympathetic/RAAS suppression. Both valid, depends on what’s causing the bloat. That’s not “reciting,” it’s understanding the difference, and I thought that he meant how to combat the bloat by HGH not in general.

Sorry for any misunderstanding @9499449930203049
for HGH bloat use Nobivolov like I said.
 
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aids said:
No, Nebivolol is better if the bloat is consequent to HGH usage via the sympathetic/renin-aldosterone axis.
Eplerenone is better.
You don't know what you're talking about, like I said initially.
Stop recommending shit.
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I think that the one who asked @jeff1234 meant how to combat bloat that’s caused by HGH.
 
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copercel123 said:
I think that the one who asked @jeff1234 meant how to combat bloat that’s caused by HGH.
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Yes, of which he answered Eplerenone.
He later answered Nebivolol to a general question not specific to HGH-related bloat.
He was wrong both times.
 
jeff1234 said:
I mentioned eplerenone earlier because it’s a proven aldosterone antagonist, great for general water retention. Then I brought up nebivolol after being reminded of how it works in the context of HGH (that’s what he probably meant).
He talked about HGH then asked “for bloating, what is better”,

again, he probably meant the bloat that is caused by HGH, not in general that’s why I said nobivolol.

I know that: Eplerenone = direct aldosterone blockade, Nebivolol = sympathetic/RAAS suppression. Both valid, depends on what’s causing the bloat. That’s not “reciting,” it’s understanding the difference, and I thought that he meant how to combat the bloat by HGH not in general.

Sorry for any misunderstanding @9499449930203049
for HGH bloat use Nobivolov like I said.
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all good

do you suppose 5mg ed or eod would be sufficient on 6 iu gh?
 
chadbeingmade said:
GLP1 agonists

Test bloat - Amiloride
GH bloat - Nebivolol, Amiloride
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jeff1234 said:
I mentioned eplerenone earlier because it’s a proven aldosterone antagonist, great for general water retention. Then I brought up nebivolol after being reminded of how it works in the context of HGH (that’s what he probably meant).
He talked about HGH then asked “for bloating, what is better”,

again, he probably meant the bloat that is caused by HGH, not in general that’s why I said nobivolol.

I know that: Eplerenone = direct aldosterone blockade, Nebivolol = sympathetic/RAAS suppression. Both valid, depends on what’s causing the bloat. That’s not “reciting,” it’s understanding the difference, and I thought that he meant how to combat the bloat by HGH not in general.

Sorry for any misunderstanding @9499449930203049
for HGH bloat use Nobivolov like I said.
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all of the amiloride I'm seeing from multiple sources is in combination with furosemide, which is an intense diuretic Is that safe when combined with nebivolol? -- sorry if this is retarded, are Amiloride and furosemide the same thing? mb

is there any room for hctz?

would it be safe to take these on a schedule, (e3d, eod etc) and how would one go about defining that schedule for the respective dosage of gh/test
 
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9499449930203049 said:
all of the amiloride I'm seeing from multiple sources is in combination with furosemide, which is an intense diuretic Is that safe when combined with nebivolol?
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Online pharmacy should have just Amiloride.
You can take both Amiloride and Nebivolol yes.

9499449930203049 said:
is there any room for hctz?
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Some sell Amiloride + HCTZ. That’s OK also.

9499449930203049 said:
would it be safe to take these on a schedule, (e3d, eod etc) and how would one go about defining that schedule for the respective dosage of gh/test
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Start w 2.5mg Nebi and up to 5 if needed. Amiloride I just take 5mg but you can dose as you need realistically. Don’t exceed 20mg. Should be able to blast high Test w/o bloat w it.
 
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chadbeingmade said:
Online pharmacy should have just Amiloride.
You can take both Amiloride and Nebivolol yes.


Some sell Amiloride + HCTZ. That’s OK also.


Start w 2.5mg Nebi and up to 5 if needed. Amiloride I just take 5mg but you can dose as you need realistically. Don’t exceed 20mg. Should be able to blast high Test w/o bloat w it.
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im in the us so to source from an online pharma id need a script, im not sure how id go about that given i dont medically need it.


I can source Amiloride + HCTZ, but the only dosages are 5 mg / 50 mg, meaning i couldn't take it ED.

In theory, would 2.5-5 nebi ed, 5 amiloride /50 hctz e3d work? (or half the amiloride/hctz respectively)

I'm not sure if you have an anecdotal experience running that low of amiloride, but yeah, the issue is i couldn't take it ED due to the ratio to hctz. sorry i know this is sort of convoluted
 
opinion on long-acting-insulin paired with hgh for more igf 1 synergy?
 
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jeff1234 said:
HGH already increase IGF 1, why would you consider taking IGF 1? Pointless.
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do you think hctz + nebivolv would be enough to mitigate bloat, or is amiloride necessary.
 
jeff1234 said:
I’m pretty sure I have enough experience to help you guys.
AMA.
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Is the optimal time to start roiding around your 20s? 250mg test a week a good start?
 
fezzz said:
Is the optimal time to start roiding around your 20s? 250mg test a week a good start?
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The best time to start is 16+.

Start from 300mg+.
 
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9499449930203049 said:
do you think hctz + nebivolv would be enough to mitigate bloat, or is amiloride necessary.
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It’s surely enough, you can add amiloride for a case, you won’t need it probably.
 
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jeff1234 said:
It’s surely enough, you can add amiloride for a case, you won’t need it probably.
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chadbeingmade said:
Online pharmacy should have just Amiloride.
You can take both Amiloride and Nebivolol yes.


Some sell Amiloride + HCTZ. That’s OK also.


Start w 2.5mg Nebi and up to 5 if needed. Amiloride I just take 5mg but you can dose as you need realistically. Don’t exceed 20mg. Should be able to blast high Test w/o bloat w it.
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do you know anything about the long term risks of running hctz.

from my research it seems like hctz more so flushes bloat from your system, while amiloride prevents it. i would imagine consistent flushing of the kidneys is not ideal.

my research was not incredibly thorough so my knowledge is rudimentary at best, so i could be off base
 
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jeff1234 said:
Im on dut now
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hello i have a goal to use compounds because i want to drop like 3-5%bf in a month im planning to buy
t-3,clen and something for appetite suppresent
do u think its worth it
(im not gonna go high dose to which its dnagerous btw)
 
dawooddX said:
hello i have a goal to use compounds because i want to drop like 3-5%bf in a month im planning to buy
t-3,clen and something for appetite suppresent
do u think its worth it
(im not gonna go high dose to which its dnagerous btw)
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T-3 is good. Clen is shit.
If you really want to drop body-weight then DNP and reta/any other GLP-1 agonist is the best way to go.
 
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fezzz said:
Best way to get it if im not allowed a credit card till 18. How can I find a irl dealer?
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Go to your local gym.
 
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jeff1234 said:
T-3 is good. Clen is shit.
If you really want to drop body-weight then DNP and reta/any other GLP-1 agonist is the best way to go.
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why do u say hgh is cope for growing facially?
 
jeff1234 said:
T-3 is good. Clen is shit.
If you really want to drop body-weight then DNP and reta/any other GLP-1 agonist is the best way to go.
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what do u think dose for t-3 yes imma get a glp-1 for appetite
 
considering a test base is in place what would u choose as a lower androgenic strenght anabolic helper, var or lgd, ive seen u prefer var but the data we have shows lgd being very potent even at low doses and its not liver toxic on top of that.
 
GrainMunchingGoy said:
considering a test base is in place what would u choose as a lower androgenic strenght anabolic helper, var or lgd, ive seen u prefer var but the data we have shows lgd being very potent even at low doses and its not liver toxic on top of that.
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Var with test is the best synergy.

LGD is also good but var is better along with test.
 
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What do you think abt anavar for height velocity + bone mass?
 
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Do you think that if I used 25mg anavar daily at 15 it would fuse growth plates because of epipheseal cartilage ossification from increased bmd? Should I use it or keep just cycling on and off hgh and using aromasin til I’m 19
 
Just ordered 5mg amiloride + 50mg hydrochlorothiazide

High iq? + How should I dose during my surplus if using hgh, test + lgd to achieve the same debloats as when on a cut
 
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how can i prevent hair loss and regrow my hair (norwood 1 atm) while still going through puberty (16 hit puberty at 13 length stopped growing in 2023 but girth is still growing so i still wanna have some systemic dht to grow it more )
 
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How’s the ghk modafinil minox combo? I saw u said your using it
All the pros with no sides with this combo ?
 
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Bitchwhipper2 said:
Just ordered 5mg amiloride + 50mg hydrochlorothiazide

High iq? + How should I dose during my surplus if using hgh, test + lgd to achieve the same debloats as when on a cut
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Mirin.

Take 5 mg amiloride and 30 mg hctz.
But I don’t see a point for doing a surplus tbh.
iblameautistickids said:
how can i prevent hair loss and regrow my hair (norwood 1 atm) while still going through puberty (16 hit puberty at 13 length stopped growing in 2023 but girth is still growing so i still wanna have some systemic dht to grow it more )
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RU, topical minoxidil.
 
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slaters said:
How’s the ghk modafinil minox combo? I saw u said your using it
All the pros with no sides with this combo ?
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It’s great so far. Still got no sides
 
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jeff1234 said:
Mirin.

Take 5 mg amiloride and 30 mg hctz.
But I don’t see a point for doing a surplus tbh.
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Youve already seen my physique and how lean I am.
Given that Im roiding, I wont really be gaining much muscle without a SLIGHT surplus. Not talking abt dirty bulking here
 
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jeff1234 said:
Mirin.

Take 5 mg amiloride and 30 mg hctz.
But I don’t see a point for doing a surplus tbh.

RU, topical minoxidil.
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yk any good ru and minoxidil raw powder sources, all the ones i know are overpriced asf
 
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