An Economic explanation for Incels and Incel communities

[ballskin]

Let's look at the data:
https://quillette.com/2019/03/12/attraction-inequality-and-the-dating-economy/

A data scientist representing the popular dating app “Hinge” reported on the Gini coefficients he had found in his company’s abundant data, treating “likes” as the equivalent of income. He reported that heterosexual females faced a Gini coefficient of 0.324, while heterosexual males faced a much higher Gini coefficient of 0.542. So neither sex has complete equality: in both cases, there are some “wealthy” people with access to more romantic experiences and some “poor” who have access to few or none. But while the situation for women is something like an economy with some poor, some middle class, and some millionaires, the situation for men is closer to a world with a small number of super-billionaires surrounded by huge masses who possess almost nothing.

Or in other words, if you treat "likes" as currency, then the inequality in sexual opportunity on hinge is significantly higher then the US economy.

In criminology, there exists this idea called strain theory. Strain theory states that society puts pressure on people to achieve certain goals, and when these goals cannot be achieved, people are pressured into five common ways of coping: (stolen from wikipedia)

Conformity: pursuing cultural goals through socially approved means.
Innovation: using socially unapproved or unconventional means to obtain culturally approved goals. Example: dealing drugs or stealing to achieve financial security.
Ritualism: using the same socially approved means to achieve less elusive goals (more modest and humble).
Retreatism: to reject both the cultural goals and the means to obtain it, then find a way to escape it.
Rebellion: to reject cultural goals and the prescribed means to achieve them, then work towards replace both of them.

Now let's look at it through the lens of the incel community:

Conformity: ask out a large number of girls, follow all the guides on the internet, and hope one of them will go out with you.
Innovation: just hire a prostitute man...
Ritualism: I can't find someone willing to date me/sleep with me, but I got a friend at last!
Retreatism: the /r/mgtow idea. Who needs women anyways right?
Rebellion: Who needs sex when you got hentai? I prefer 2d girls anyways!

If we look at incels through the lens of strain theory: Society is telling these young men that sex is something desirable, and that everyone else is doing it. Therefore, their inability to get laid is creating strain. This drives those men to communities for innovation, ritualism, retreatism, or rebellion.

During times of high economic inequality, we aren't surprised to see the emergence of various radical, heterodox, economic extremists. The Jacobins, Bolsheviks, and Chavistas all appeared during times of extreme economic inequality.

 

[sergeant blackpill]

The beta uprising will rise again! The next ER coming soon from this forum!

 

[Lorsss]

Personally I opted for retreatism. I want to avoid relationships at all cost after my 14 month lasting LTR: I do not want to invest all my free time, all the budget for free time in a commited relationship. Especially if the girl has a below average looks.
Top looking Chads can have casual sex, while average men like me have to choose between prostitutes and committing in LTR.

Now I just want to spend my free time while pursuing my goals or chilling with my hobbies and friends. And visit prostitues sometimes.

 

[Preoximerianas]

As I was studying for my Economics degree, one of the things that was brought up was strain theory and cause I browsed these incel, redpill, blackpill forums it all hit me. Came to roughly the same conclusion to what the post was talking about. Shit really is going to get worse before it gets better.

 

[thereallegend]

Society

Biology

 

[thereallegend]

Conformity, Innovation and Ritualism are the best ways to cope tbh

 

[Scammer]

Which cope is going er

 

[ballskin]

Personally I opted for retreatism. I want to avoid relationships at all cost after my 14 month lasting LTR: I do not want to invest all my free time, all the budget for free time in a commited relationship. Especially if the girl has a below average looks.
Top looking Chads can have casual sex, while average men like me have to choose between prostitutes and committing in LTR.

Now I just want to spend my free time while pursuing my goals or chilling with my hobbies and friends. And visit prostitues sometimes.

Ticks 4 out of the 5 categories.

Which cope is going er

Rebellion

 

[Done]

How many times do we need to confirm the same thing over and over again. Even normies agree dating apps are fucked at this point.

 

[Harold O'brien]

no shit

 

[Deleted member 5189]

It ain't that deep you mentally ill robot

 

[IncelsBraincels]

 

[Deleted member 12217]

Let's look at the data:
https://quillette.com/2019/03/12/attraction-inequality-and-the-dating-economy/



Or in other words, if you treat "likes" as currency, then the inequality in sexual opportunity on hinge is significantly higher then the US economy.

In criminology, there exists this idea called strain theory. Strain theory states that society puts pressure on people to achieve certain goals, and when these goals cannot be achieved, people are pressured into five common ways of coping: (stolen from wikipedia)



Now let's look at it through the lens of the incel community:



If we look at incels through the lens of strain theory: Society is telling these young men that sex is something desirable, and that everyone else is doing it. Therefore, their inability to get laid is creating strain. This drives those men to communities for innovation, ritualism, retreatism, or rebellion.

During times of high economic inequality, we aren't surprised to see the emergence of various radical, heterodox, economic extremists. The Jacobins, Bolsheviks, and Chavistas all appeared during times of extreme economic inequality.

Where is consulting plastic surgeons and breaking your face on this list? Shit thread.

 

[ballskin]

Where is consulting plastic surgeons and breaking your face on this list? Shit thread.

Conformity: pursuing cultural goals through socially approved means.

 

[Deleted member 17026]

I feel like going gay could apply to all 5 of those categories lol (not promoting going gay btw)

 

[wew.lad]

High as fuck IQ thread tbh

 

[Lihito]

Let's look at the data:
https://quillette.com/2019/03/12/attraction-inequality-and-the-dating-economy/



Or in other words, if you treat "likes" as currency, then the inequality in sexual opportunity on hinge is significantly higher then the US economy.

In criminology, there exists this idea called strain theory. Strain theory states that society puts pressure on people to achieve certain goals, and when these goals cannot be achieved, people are pressured into five common ways of coping: (stolen from wikipedia)



Now let's look at it through the lens of the incel community:



If we look at incels through the lens of strain theory: Society is telling these young men that sex is something desirable, and that everyone else is doing it. Therefore, their inability to get laid is creating strain. This drives those men to communities for innovation, ritualism, retreatism, or rebellion.

During times of high economic inequality, we aren't surprised to see the emergence of various radical, heterodox, economic extremists. The Jacobins, Bolsheviks, and Chavistas all appeared during times of extreme economic inequality.

We need to do an incel revolution and create our anarcho syndicalist/ libertarian state or something

HAIL INCELIA @chaddyboi66 @n0rthface

 

[Hypno]

 

[Adolf Hipster]

how many of the userbase on here are actual incels aka truecels?

 

[Ottoman Janissary]

I cope by stacking stones

 

[Deleted member 26]

 

[Deleted member 15067]

I would think rebellion in this case is going ER

 

[Enfant terrible]

Let's look at the data:
https://quillette.com/2019/03/12/attraction-inequality-and-the-dating-economy/



Or in other words, if you treat "likes" as currency, then the inequality in sexual opportunity on hinge is significantly higher then the US economy.

In criminology, there exists this idea called strain theory. Strain theory states that society puts pressure on people to achieve certain goals, and when these goals cannot be achieved, people are pressured into five common ways of coping: (stolen from wikipedia)



Now let's look at it through the lens of the incel community:



If we look at incels through the lens of strain theory: Society is telling these young men that sex is something desirable, and that everyone else is doing it. Therefore, their inability to get laid is creating strain. This drives those men to communities for innovation, ritualism, retreatism, or rebellion.

During times of high economic inequality, we aren't surprised to see the emergence of various radical, heterodox, economic extremists. The Jacobins, Bolsheviks, and Chavistas all appeared during times of extreme economic inequality.

Humans want sex because they are biological hardwired to procreate not because society tells them sex is good or desirable.

 

[hebbewem]

how many of the userbase on here are actual incels aka truecels?

70 %

 

[stamaster21]

Humans want sex because they are biological hardwired to procreate not because society tells them sex is good or desirable.

yes there are hormomes in humans that make us get sexually excited by looking at attractive members of the oppisite sex. Its crazy how you will have women say things like unrealistic beauty standards and its society fault, and men have a mid-life crisis and want younger women. This is all bullshit mating tactics, to try to change human sexual biology by using morals and shame. It dosen't matter a 99 year old man will still want to fuck these women below, no amount of shame will change that.

 

[Squirtoutmabooty]

This was maybe true in 2019, in 2022 it is very outdated

 

[thisend]

This was maybe true in 2019, in 2022 it is very outdated
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Any explanations for this?

 

[Squirtoutmabooty]

Any explanations for this?

Because of Covid, too many men have become red/blackpilled and realized their worth, so they either turned to porn or just fuck femboys. Now the top 20% of females are fucking 80% of the men, and average women are getting nothing

 

[BearBoy]

Personally I opted for retreatism. I want to avoid relationships at all cost after my 14 month lasting LTR: I do not want to invest all my free time, all the budget for free time in a commited relationship. Especially if the girl has a below average looks.
Top looking Chads can have casual sex, while average men like me have to choose between prostitutes and committing in LTR.

Now I just want to spend my free time while pursuing my goals or chilling with my hobbies and friends. And visit prostitues sometimes.

Relationships are a joke in 2022

 

[Lawton88]

yes there are hormomes in humans that make us get sexually excited by looking at attractive members of the oppisite sex. Its crazy how you will have women say things like unrealistic beauty standards and its society fault, and men have a mid-life crisis and want younger women. This is all bullshit mating tactics, to try to change human sexual biology by using morals and shame. It dosen't matter a 99 year old man will still want to fuck these women below, no amount of shame will change that.

That 56 year old former model is just complaining because high status early 50s silver fox guy is dating early 40s and lower age females instead of her. She gives it away basically in the video.

 

[Ritalincel]

Incels