AN OVERVIEW OF AAS AND FACIAL CHANGES

[Avskinov]

BUMP

 

[Avskinov]

@kdev

 

[mirinnnasal]

I actually haven't got deep in to it
but for my knowledge anavar will be the right one
winstrol second
Primobolan

Proviron but depends on shbg level you wanna go doen from baseline

Anyways, consistent use of (aas) will lower it gradually

 

[Avskinov]

Anyways, consistent use of (aas) will lower it gradually

yeah

 

[Ahmed88]

Not a single molecule of evidence/studies + absolute shit thread + kill yourself

 

[Avskinov]

Not a single molecule of evidence/studies + absolute shit thread + kill yourself

YOU READ THE EVIDENCE TOO

 

[Ahmed88]

YOU READ THE EVIDENCE TOO

What the fuck are you talking about mate?

There is no ,,evidence" and everything you said is false

 

[Avskinov]

What the fuck are you talking about mate?

There is no ,,evidence" and everything you said is false

No evidenece i added didnt it load for ya

 

[Avskinov]

No evidenece i added didnt it load for ya

 

[Ahmed88]

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Are you fucking retarded?

This isn’t “evidence” of your claims, it’s studies in children with medical conditions, and some basic facts like endogenous testosterone being involved in normal puberty growth (yeah, no shit mate). And the funny part is most of these actually debunk your whole thread, because they explicitly talk about “catch-up growth,” “normalization of development,” etc.

 

[Avskinov]

Are you fucking retarded?

This isn’t “evidence” of your claims, it’s studies in children with medical conditions, and some basic facts like endogenous testosterone being involved in normal puberty growth (yeah, no shit mate). And the funny part is most of these actually debunk your whole thread, because they explicitly talk about “catch-up growth,” “normalization of development,” etc.

 

[Avskinov]

Are you fucking retarded?

This isn’t “evidence” of your claims, it’s studies in children with medical conditions, and some basic facts like endogenous testosterone being involved in normal puberty growth (yeah, no shit mate). And the funny part is most of these actually debunk your whole thread, because they explicitly talk about “catch-up growth,” “normalization of development,” etc.

You didnt fking read retard I talked about many different shit fucking read what are you gonna say roids will give bones out of your ass after 18+ + read it i said itworks for delayed growth + plus can you read the upper part of this + there isnt any experiment i found for giving roids in healthy childern

 

[Avskinov]

@Peco

 

[Avskinov]

@ICL

 

[v8sandweights]

Not coping cause im 18 or anything but the point you make that significant change not possible at that age is so wrong, I mean anecdotally there’s so many examples but I’ll just name androgenic

 

[Avskinov]

Not coping cause im 18 or anything but the point you make that significant change not possible at that age is so wrong, I mean anecdotally there’s so many examples but I’ll just name androgenic

No it can occur and i didnt say 18 ig i said 18 + yeah if the plate is open why not facial plate closes slower than bone so yeah youre right

 

[Ahmed88]

You didnt fking read retard I talked about many different shit fucking read what are you gonna say roids will give bones out of your ass after 18+

Nigga what?

What is there to read? You just claim shit without evidence, ,, saar pin it at 14 to 16 it will be the best time grow bones and bone mass saar"

 

[Avskinov]

Not coping cause im 18 or anything but the point you make that significant change not possible at that age is so wrong, I mean anecdotally there’s so many examples but I’ll just name androgenic

Yall not reading it well pls rep my guide One guy didnt even read read a single study for delayed growth and now is saying my guide is

 

[Avskinov]

Nigga what?

What is there to read? You just claim shit without evidence, ,, saar pin it at 14 to 16 it will be the best time grow bones and bone mass saar"

Sir im retard sir i dont know how to read sarr Whatever dude just get out from.here and

 

[v8sandweights]

Yall not reading it well pls rep my guide One guy didnt even read read a single study for delayed growth and now is saying my guide is

Yeah I repped dw bhai im mirin the thread and overall message

Just didn’t agree with that specific aspect and im glad you conceded to agreement

Much luck with whatever ur running rn

 

[Avskinov]

@Ahmed88 https://anatomypubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ar.22918 see this and tell me then we will talk

 

[peterk1287]

Wait till you down regulate and desensitize them

 

[Avskinov]

Wait till you down regulate and desensitize them

Havent talk about counter for this cause i just wanna get straight to point

 

[Ahmed88]

Sir im retard sir i dont know how to read sarr Whatever dude just get out from.here

What?

ARE YOU FUCKING EMPTY IN YOUR HEAD

NONE OF YOUR STUDIES ARE STUDIES IN NORMAL HEALTHY KIDS THEY ARE IN DISEASES LIKE DELAYED PUBERTY AND ENDOGENOUS TESTOSTERONE (TESTOSTERONE IN YOUR BODY) NOT EXOGENOUS TESTOSTERONE YOU NIMWIT

AND HERES THE FUNNY PART THEY LITERALLY SAY ,,The craniofacial measurements were similar in the treated boys as compared with the controls.,
Low doses of testosterone accelerate statural and craniofacial growth… leading towards normalization"

THIS IS ABOUT CATCH UP GROWTH


STEROIDS DONT GROW YOUR FACIAL BONES, THEY SPEED UP GROWTH AND CLOSE YOUR PLATES FASTER

@Ahmed88 https://anatomypubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ar.22918 see this and tell me then we will talk

I'm going to rape you

What does this have to do with steroids?

It's about facial bones growing in certain ages?????

 

[Avskinov]

What?

ARE YOU FUCKING EMPTY IN YOUR HEAD

NONE OF YOUR STUDIES ARE STUDIES IN NORMAL HEALTHY KIDS THEY ARE IN DISEASES LIKE DELAYED PUBERTY AND ENDOGENOUS TESTOSTERONE (TESTOSTERONE IN YOUR BODY) NOT EXOGENOUS TESTOSTERONE YOU NIMWIT

YOU CAN NOT FIND A GOOD RESEARCH CAUSE OF ETHICAL PURPOSE ONLY MECHANISM WISE PROVEN

+ SEE SECOND STUDY IS NOT ON DELAYED

What?

ARE YOU FUCKING EMPTY IN YOUR HEAD

NONE OF YOUR STUDIES ARE STUDIES IN NORMAL HEALTHY KIDS THEY ARE IN DISEASES LIKE DELAYED PUBERTY AND ENDOGENOUS TESTOSTERONE (TESTOSTERONE IN YOUR BODY) NOT EXOGENOUS TESTOSTERONE YOU NIMWIT

AND HERES THE FUNNY PART THEY LITERALLY SAY ,,The craniofacial measurements were similar in the treated boys as compared with the controls.,
Low doses of testosterone accelerate statural and craniofacial growth… leading towards normalization"

THIS IS ABOUT CATCH UP GROWTH

I REALLY EXPLICITLY MENTIONED THAT STUDY FOR DELAYED GROWTH ONLY IF YOU SEE

STEROIDS DONT GROW YOUR FACIAL BONES, THEY SPEED UP GROWTH AND CLOSE YOUR PLATES FASTER

YOU ARE RIGHT BUT I WANTED TO MENTION IT REALLY BUT I EXPLICITLY WANTED AAS AND FACE CHANGE IN NEXT PART I WILL TAKING ABOUT THIS I TALKED ABOUT THIS IN PREVIOUS THREAD MESSAGE +MY FAULT I DIDNT MENTIONED THIS I CAN EDIT MY THREAD ILL MENTION THIS TOO

 

[Avskinov]

YOU CAN NOT FIND A GOOD RESEARCH CAUSE OF ETHICAL PURPOSE ONLY MECHANISM WISE PROVEN

+ SEE SECOND STUDY IS NOT ON DELAYED

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I REALLY EXPLICITLY MENTIONED THAT STUDY FOR DELAYED GROWTH ONLY IF YOU SEE


YOU ARE RIGHT BUT I WANTED TO MENTION IT REALLY BUT I EXPLICITLY WANTED AAS AND FACE CHANGE IN NEXT PART I WILL TAKING ABOUT THIS I TALKED ABOUT THIS IN PREVIOUS THREAD MESSAGE +MY FAULT I DIDNT MENTIONED THIS I CAN EDIT MY THREAD ILL MENTION THIS TOO

@Ahmed88

 

[Ahmed88]

YOU CAN NOT FIND A GOOD RESEARCH CAUSE OF ETHICAL PURPOSE ONLY MECHANISM WISE PROVEN

+ SEE SECOND STUDY IS NOT ON DELAYED

Even in studies on kids with disease states/problems it says
,,Sex-steroid therapy does not appear to enhance adult height."
,,Normalization of craniofacial dimensions"
,,ccelerated by 2.46 ± 0.82 years during therapy…"
,,Testosterone … was significantly associated with the increased risk of advanced BA in boys."
,,Advanced bone age is associated with reduced remaining growth potential and lower predicted adult height."


Steroids speed up growth -> accelerate bone age -> same growth (or maybe less) and alot of other side effects

I REALLY EXPLICITLY MENTIONED THAT STUDY FOR DELAYED GROWTH ONLY IF YOU SEE

What?

YOU ARE RIGHT BUT I WANTED TO MENTION IT REALLY BUT I EXPLICITLY WANTED AAS AND FACE CHANGE IN NEXT PART I WILL TAKING ABOUT THIS I TALKED ABOUT THIS IN PREVIOUS THREAD MESSAGE +MY FAULT I DIDNT MENTIONED THIS I CAN EDIT MY THREAD ILL MENTION THIS TOO

Fair enough, but why make a thread if you knew roids onlt speed up growth? The roi is in the negatives, and you get severe side effects for 1 year faster growth

 

[Avskinov]

Even in studies on kids with disease states/problems it says
,,Sex-steroid therapy does not appear to enhance adult height."
,,Normalization of craniofacial dimensions"
,,ccelerated by 2.46 ± 0.82 years during therapy…"
,,Testosterone … was significantly associated with the increased risk of advanced BA in boys."
,,Advanced bone age is associated with reduced remaining growth potential and lower predicted adult height."


Steroids speed up growth -> accelerate bone age -> same growth (or maybe less) and alot of other side effects


What?

Fair enough, but why make a thread if you knew roids onlt speed up growth? The roi is in the negatives, and you get severe side effects for 1 year faster growth

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