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Anavar is non aromatizing the way it speeds up epiphyseal closure is androgens not estrogen😹
Well nigga guess what high levels of androgens convert into, of course estrogen.

Now tell me what happens if you use an aromatase inhibitor? You lower your e2 levels.

So now explain me with that peanut brain of yours how further bone aging is even possible? The main and arguably only way you can ossify your epiphyseal plates or age your bones more than normal is via excess estrogen. :feelshah:

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Care to provide any proof/studies?
 
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Well nigga guess what high levels of androgens convert into, of course estrogen.

Now tell me what happens if you use an aromatase inhibitor? You lower your e2 levels.

So now explain me with that peanut brain of yours how further bone aging is even possible? The main and arguably only way you can ossify your epiphyseal plates or age your bones more than normal is via excess estrogen. :feelshah:

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Not all androgens convert to e2 as i said. Anavar doesnt convert to e2 dumb ass nigga
 
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Not all androgens convert to e2 as i said. Anavar doesnt convert to e2 dumb ass nigga
“Anavar is non aromatizing the way it speeds up epiphyseal closure is androgens not estrogen😹” You never said that lol.

What do you mean not all androgens convert to e2 fucking retard of course they don’t but when you have excess/high levels those ones do. Guess what anavar increases? Androgens.

Are you genuinely retarded lol like i can hardly believe you wrote this in a serious manner. Go on and take anavar without any aromatase inhibitors its not like i give a fuck about your epiphyseal plates ossifying prematurely.

Its indirect.
 
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“Anavar is non aromatizing the way it speeds up epiphyseal closure is androgens not estrogen😹” You never said that lol.

What do you mean not all androgens convert to e2 fucking retard of course they don’t but when you have excess/high levels those ones do. Guess what anavar increases? Androgens.

Are you genuinely retarded lol like i can hardly believe you wrote this in a serious manner. Go on and take anavar without any aromatase inhibitors its not like i give a fuck about your epiphyseal plates ossifying prematurely.

Its indirect.
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“Anavar is non aromatizing the way it speeds up epiphyseal closure is androgens not estrogen😹” You never said that lol.

What do you mean not all androgens convert to e2 fucking retard of course they don’t but when you have excess/high levels those ones do. Guess what anavar increases? Androgens.

Are you genuinely retarded lol like i can hardly believe you wrote this in a serious manner. Go on and take anavar without any aromatase inhibitors its not like i give a fuck about your epiphyseal plates ossifying prematurely.

Its indirect.
Didnt think if that but that would only be possible when your bodies natural testosterone is still circulating which will stop happening very quickly if you are on anavar. Look at masteron for example it was developed as treatment for breast cancer since it dropped esteogen while maintaining muscle mass. Anavar would do the same since they are similair thus your argument falls appart if you look deeper into it
 
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Erm this is water and should be known already but thank you for spreading this info so retards can get a step closer to being smarter:feelsautistic::feelsautistic::feelsautistic:
 
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Didnt think if that but that would only be possible when your bodies natural testosterone is still circulating which will stop happening very quickly if you are on anavar. Look at masteron for example it was developed as treatment for breast cancer since it dropped esteogen while maintaining muscle mass. Anavar would do the same since they are similair thus your argument falls appart if you look deeper into it
But masteron can also close growth plates earlier because it's highly androgenic, same with tren because there is other factors in growth plates closure:Comfy:
 
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“Anavar is non aromatizing the way it speeds up epiphyseal closure is androgens not estrogen😹” You never said that lol.

What do you mean not all androgens convert to e2 fucking retard of course they don’t but when you have excess/high levels those ones do. Guess what anavar increases? Androgens.

Are you genuinely retarded lol like i can hardly believe you wrote this in a serious manner. Go on and take anavar without any aromatase inhibitors its not like i give a fuck about your epiphyseal plates ossifying prematurely.

Its indirect.
Ay chill out on @Dorogi
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Didnt think if that but that would only be possible when your bodies natural testosterone is still circulating which will stop happening very quickly if you are on anavar. Look at masteron for example it was developed as treatment for breast cancer since it dropped esteogen while maintaining muscle mass. Anavar would do the same since they are similair thus your argument falls appart if you look deeper into it
Your endogenous testosterone production doesn’t fully shutdown on anavar as far as i know its partial thereby only lowering your natural levels. May be dose-dependant slightly but still.

Masteron and anavar are both androgenic so is aromasin from what I’ve read but one being more androgenic and the other isn’t as androgenic but this isn’t the jmportant factor. The main thing here is that Aromatase inhibitors inhibit or basically kill the aromatase enzymes therefore lowering your estrogen, and yes masteron also lowers estrogen to some degree whilst not as potent as something like letrozole or exemestane, but anavar does not lower estrogen and this is where your argument falls apart. If anavar did lower estrogen directly i would have agreed.
 
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But masteron can also close growth plates earlier because it's highly androgenic, same with tren because there is other factors in growth plates closure:Comfy:
All “other factors” end up being dependant of your e2 levels so i would argue that estrogen is the main and only thing that ossifies the plates.

Taking an aromatase inhibitor isn’t this fucking hard bro why are y’all overcomplicating things.
 
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All “other factors” end up being dependant of your e2 levels so i would argue that estrogen is the main and only thing that ossifies the plates.

Taking an aromatase inhibitor isn’t this fucking hard bro why are y’all overcomplicating things.
I never said estrogen wasn't the most important you just have to be really careful ant take care of your brain as well, while not using compounds that'll worsen your growth plates potential. I don't have anything against AIs because I perfected my personal dosage. I didn't oppose anyone chill with the cortisol this early:Comfy:
 
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I never said estrogen wasn't the most important you just have to be really careful ant take care of your brain as well, while not using compounds that'll worsen your growth plates potential. I don't have anything against AIs because I perfected my personal dosage. I didn't oppose anyone chill with the cortisol this early:Comfy:
You did say there were other factors which i don’t agree with estrogen is the main and only thing that ossifies plates.

It’s a trade-off or basically temporarily sacrificing your brain development.

And sorry its because of the roids i feel angry all the time :feelscry:
 
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You did say there were other factors which i don’t agree with estrogen is the main and only thing that ossifies plates.

It’s a trade-off or basically temporarily sacrificing your brain development.

And sorry its because of the roids i feel angry all the time :feelscry:
I personally choose to wait until my growth is done before touching Tren or anything highly androgenic even though androgens CAN help with bone but I don't want to take any risks with my growth plates.

Yes, a risky trade off that usually must be taken

Dw I'm a roider too:feelsautistic: just on TRT and sometimes var rn though with every ancillary on hand
 
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Also improves bone density better than any other androgen
In children with growth deficiencies yes and the results weren’t anything special
 
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If you’re not roiding by 16 it’s over. I wish I did when I was in my early teens.
why tough
im 17 and thinking about roiding, (already on HGH + exemestane) but my thought with test is that i already have a really good body, and since many people say you should only roid for the body halo idk if it would be worth it for me

the question im asking, if test should only be taken for a body halo why do you say that you wish you started when you were in your early teens?
 
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Your endogenous testosterone production doesn’t fully shutdown on anavar as far as i know its partial thereby only lowering your natural levels. May be dose-dependant slightly but still.

Masteron and anavar are both androgenic so is aromasin from what I’ve read but one being more androgenic and the other isn’t as androgenic but this isn’t the jmportant factor. The main thing here is that Aromatase inhibitors inhibit or basically kill the aromatase enzymes therefore lowering your estrogen, and yes masteron also lowers estrogen to some degree whilst not as potent as something like letrozole or exemestane, but anavar does not lower estrogen and this is where your argument falls apart. If anavar did lower estrogen directly i would have agreed.
Are you sure that its enough of an increase in estrogen to impact you significantly? Im using AI but thats because im on heavily aromatizing compounds. Also aromasin isnt androgenic its a steroidal AI meaning it permanently deactivates aromatase enzyme and you have to wait for your body to produce more after you stop using.
 
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But masteron can also close growth plates earlier because it's highly androgenic, same with tren because there is other factors in growth plates closure:Comfy:
i know but androgens dont have as significant as an effect as estrogen. Especially if your also using hgh that keeps them open (reason that robert wadlow kept growing)
 
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i know but androgens dont have as significant as an effect as estrogen. Especially if your also using hgh that keeps them open (reason that robert wadlow kept growing)
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Are you sure that its enough of an increase in estrogen to impact you significantly? Im using AI but thats because im on heavily aromatizing compounds. Also aromasin isnt androgenic its a steroidal AI meaning it permanently deactivates aromatase enzyme and you have to wait for your body to produce more after you stop using.
Well it impacting you significantly relies on a few things i would say, like the dose and how you respond yourself. It will negatively impact you though thats for sure.

I’m not sure if it is androgenic but @SlayerJonas had said it is.

Aromasin is suicidal yeah
 
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Well it impacting you significantly relies on a few things i would say, like the dose and how you respond yourself. It will negatively impact you though thats for sure.

I’m not sure if it is androgenic but @SlayerJonas had said it is.

Aromasin is suicidal yeah
For what i know about it the impact on your growth plates with anavar because of excess androgens seems necligable.

it might not direcrly decrease estrogen but AI doesnt either. AI stops the conversion of androgens into estrogen but non aromatizing androgens stop androgens from being produced endogenously so thats just a step higher up the ladder.

Both AI and non aromatising androgens (like masteron) have been used for breast cancer treatments where e2 needs to be kept at a minimum thats why i said it was unnececary to do both.


are you right tho? Yes since you should use an AI in puberty anyway since its the best and safest way to keep ur GPs open
 
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Well it impacting you significantly relies on a few things i would say, like the dose and how you respond yourself. It will negatively impact you though thats for sure.

I’m not sure if it is androgenic but @SlayerJonas had said it is.

Aromasin is suicidal yeah
aromasin isnt androgenic
aromasin and 17 hydroexemestane were compared to dht for controlling breast cancer cell growth, it is androgenic

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been trying to make anavar water for heightmaxxing for a long time
 
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Explain then you fucking dunce “hehehe you’re so wrong:soy:”, fucking retard did GPT not provide you with further help?

After 15-16 your dick is almost fully developed taking aromatase inhibitors wont do anything, I’d even argue that even before those ages it wont do shit for penile development


Dont give a set age like "after 15 ur dick is done growing"

Its entirely dependent on tanner stage

You can be 15 but have tons of room for penile growth if you are low on the tanner stage.

15-16 is just the average for everyone.
 
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Also improves bone density better than any other androgen
Doesn't anavar shut down your own test production just hop on att this point
 

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