Anti-Religion thread pt2

[accelerationist]

My first thread was a fail, i will admit it. I simplified and ignored some concepts way too much, i was trying to summarize it altogether without having to get into every single argument for God since- they all are just examples of the same argument.

I’ll be bringing up a specific argument from @theRetard first. Basically he believes that non-existence cannot exist and therefore it means that God exists.

This would mean that everything quite literally exists, and becomes illogical in of itself to have contradicting philosophies all be ‘true’ and exist within the concept of reality. For all of these philosophies to co-exist it must mean that there is one objective reality that is able to hold ground for all of these different perspectives of reality. If not- then this is a completely illogical unreal reality that is based on nothing and cannot be truly understood by anyone. Because its something that should not exist- and yet it exists


The Contingency

An argument from @fk732

1. Logic, reason, and moral absolutes exist.
2. These are immaterial, universal, invariant, and necessary realities.
3. Such realities cannot arise from matter, motion, or chance.
4. Therefore, their existence requires a transcendent, rational source.
5. This source must be personal, rational, and self-existent. God.
6. The denial of God presupposes God, because using logic requires the very framework only He grounds.
7. Therefore, without God, logic, reason, and truth are impossible.

As i’ve said in an elder thread the contingency is literally just a basic fundamental for believing in God, all understands that it requires faith in the idea that an illogical being exists for you to be able to follow something which you know to not be logical

The idea that we MUST have an illogical incomprehensible (non-contingent ‘being’)
is just an assumption and a cop-out from the search for the understanding of our reality. I seriously don’t get how this is thought to be the- “strongest argument for God” when you literally need to believe in a non-contingent being to believe in a christian God in the first place

“Using logic requires the framework that God grounds” again useless thing to mention as your God is literally illogical and needs pre-assumption to exist


all we know are concepts, we know nothing grounded. The ground is nothing except a concept, and so are all these meaningful words which are being spoken… Your concept of a being is nothing more than a concept, so would be your Gods. There’s no realness to anything, as we know none of this to be or to not be


If you are still arguing God’s existence then you are a
tiktokcel // @NinjaRG9

 

[NinjaRG9]

My first thread was a fail, i will admit it. I simplified and ignored some concepts way too much, i was trying to summarize it altogether without having to get into every single argument for God since- they all are just examples of the same argument.

I’ll be bringing up a specific argument from @theRetard first. Basically he believes that non-existence cannot exist and therefore it means that God exists.

This would mean that everything quite literally exists, and becomes illogical in of itself to have contradicting philosophies all be ‘true’ and exist within the concept of reality. For all of these philosophies to co-exist it must mean that there is one objective reality that is able to hold ground for all of these different perspectives of reality. If not- then this is a completely illogical unreal reality that is based on nothing and cannot be truly understood by anyone. Because its something that should not exist- and yet it exists


The Contingency

An argument from @fk732

1. Logic, reason, and moral absolutes exist.
2. These are immaterial, universal, invariant, and necessary realities.
3. Such realities cannot arise from matter, motion, or chance.
4. Therefore, their existence requires a transcendent, rational source.
5. This source must be personal, rational, and self-existent. God.
6. The denial of God presupposes God, because using logic requires the very framework only He grounds.
7. Therefore, without God, logic, reason, and truth are impossible.

As i’ve said in an elder thread the contingency is literally just a basic fundamental for believing in God, all understands that it requires faith in the idea that an illogical being exists for you to be able to follow something which you know to not be logical

The idea that we MUST have an illogical incomprehensible (non-contingent ‘being’)
is just an assumption and a cop-out from the search for the understanding of our reality. I seriously don’t get how this is thought to be the- “strongest argument for God” when you literally need to believe in a non-contingent being to believe in a christian God in the first place

“Using logic requires the framework that God grounds” again useless thing to mention as your God is literally illogical and needs pre-assumption to exist


all we know are concepts, we know nothing grounded. The ground is nothing except a concept, and so are all these meaningful words which are being spoken… Your concept of a being is nothing more than a concept, so would be your Gods. There’s no realness to anything, as we know none of this to be or to not be


If you are still arguing God’s existence then you are a
tiktokcel // @NinjaRG9

b

 

[accelerationist]

b

Thanks baby

 

[NinjaRG9]

My first thread was a fail, i will admit it. I simplified and ignored some concepts way too much, i was trying to summarize it altogether without having to get into every single argument for God since- they all are just examples of the same argument.

I’ll be bringing up a specific argument from @theRetard first. Basically he believes that non-existence cannot exist and therefore it means that God exists.

This would mean that everything quite literally exists, and becomes illogical in of itself to have contradicting philosophies all be ‘true’ and exist within the concept of reality. For all of these philosophies to co-exist it must mean that there is one objective reality that is able to hold ground for all of these different perspectives of reality. If not- then this is a completely illogical unreal reality that is based on nothing and cannot be truly understood by anyone. Because its something that should not exist- and yet it exists


The Contingency

An argument from @fk732

1. Logic, reason, and moral absolutes exist.
2. These are immaterial, universal, invariant, and necessary realities.
3. Such realities cannot arise from matter, motion, or chance.
4. Therefore, their existence requires a transcendent, rational source.
5. This source must be personal, rational, and self-existent. God.
6. The denial of God presupposes God, because using logic requires the very framework only He grounds.
7. Therefore, without God, logic, reason, and truth are impossible.

As i’ve said in an elder thread the contingency is literally just a basic fundamental for believing in God, all understands that it requires faith in the idea that an illogical being exists for you to be able to follow something which you know to not be logical

The idea that we MUST have an illogical incomprehensible (non-contingent ‘being’)
is just an assumption and a cop-out from the search for the understanding of our reality. I seriously don’t get how this is thought to be the- “strongest argument for God” when you literally need to believe in a non-contingent being to believe in a christian God in the first place

“Using logic requires the framework that God grounds” again useless thing to mention as your God is literally illogical and needs pre-assumption to exist


all we know are concepts, we know nothing grounded. The ground is nothing except a concept, and so are all these meaningful words which are being spoken… Your concept of a being is nothing more than a concept, so would be your Gods. There’s no realness to anything, as we know none of this to be or to not be


If you are still arguing God’s existence then you are a
tiktokcel // @NinjaRG9

Nice formatting better than a wall of text

 

[theRetard]

something incoherent doesn't exist, you can't imagine it just like you can't imagine non-existence

 

[NinjaRG9]

something incoherent doesn't exist, you can't imagine it just like you can't imagine non-existence

 

[theRetard]

 

[NinjaRG9]

balls

 

[accelerationist]

something incoherent doesn't exist, you can't imagine it just like you can't imagine non-existence

What do you believe reality to be

 

[theRetard]

What do you believe reality to be

literally everything you can imagine, ideas and matter.
except "absence" "nothing" "non-extstence" "non-being" "square circle" and other incoherent things because they are self-refuting and only their linguistic constructs exist

 

[Nodesbitch]

My first thread was a fail, i will admit it. I simplified and ignored some concepts way too much, i was trying to summarize it altogether without having to get into every single argument for God since- they all are just examples of the same argument.

I’ll be bringing up a specific argument from @theRetard first. Basically he believes that non-existence cannot exist and therefore it means that God exists.

This would mean that everything quite literally exists, and becomes illogical in of itself to have contradicting philosophies all be ‘true’ and exist within the concept of reality. For all of these philosophies to co-exist it must mean that there is one objective reality that is able to hold ground for all of these different perspectives of reality. If not- then this is a completely illogical unreal reality that is based on nothing and cannot be truly understood by anyone. Because its something that should not exist- and yet it exists


The Contingency

An argument from @fk732

1. Logic, reason, and moral absolutes exist.
2. These are immaterial, universal, invariant, and necessary realities.
3. Such realities cannot arise from matter, motion, or chance.
4. Therefore, their existence requires a transcendent, rational source.
5. This source must be personal, rational, and self-existent. God.
6. The denial of God presupposes God, because using logic requires the very framework only He grounds.
7. Therefore, without God, logic, reason, and truth are impossible.

As i’ve said in an elder thread the contingency is literally just a basic fundamental for believing in God, all understands that it requires faith in the idea that an illogical being exists for you to be able to follow something which you know to not be logical

The idea that we MUST have an illogical incomprehensible (non-contingent ‘being’)
is just an assumption and a cop-out from the search for the understanding of our reality. I seriously don’t get how this is thought to be the- “strongest argument for God” when you literally need to believe in a non-contingent being to believe in a christian God in the first place

“Using logic requires the framework that God grounds” again useless thing to mention as your God is literally illogical and needs pre-assumption to exist


all we know are concepts, we know nothing grounded. The ground is nothing except a concept, and so are all these meaningful words which are being spoken… Your concept of a being is nothing more than a concept, so would be your Gods. There’s no realness to anything, as we know none of this to be or to not be


If you are still arguing God’s existence then you are a
tiktokcel // @NinjaRG9

Bump+based
If they can answer this one question I’ll believe in god
Who created god?

 

[theRetard]

Bump+based
If they can answer this one question I’ll believe in god
Who created god?

it's uncaused

 

[CaZaDor]

Gods existence or non existence doesn't matter to me personally.
He is not worthy of my worship, I do not like being a servant to someone else and even more to someone who wants me to go against my personal desires

 

[accelerationist]

Gods existence or non existence doesn't matter to me personally.
He is not worthy of my worship, I do not like being a servant to someone else and even more to someone who wants me to go against my personal desires

it all matters to me because i need to know whether im right or not

 

[accelerationist]

Gods existence or non existence doesn't matter to me personally.
He is not worthy of my worship, I do not like being a servant to someone else and even more to someone who wants me to go against my personal desires

But agreed if he was to be real i wouldnt cater to his morality seeing as i am given the choice to follow the path given to me or the path he wants me to follow

 

[accelerationist]

Bump+based
If they can answer this one question I’ll believe in god
Who created god?

Nice avi

 

[accelerationist]

it's uncaused

Has been acknowledged and argued over!

 

[kababcel]

My first thread was a fail, i will admit it. I simplified and ignored some concepts way too much, i was trying to summarize it altogether without having to get into every single argument for God since- they all are just examples of the same argument.

I’ll be bringing up a specific argument from @theRetard first. Basically he believes that non-existence cannot exist and therefore it means that God exists.

This would mean that everything quite literally exists, and becomes illogical in of itself to have contradicting philosophies all be ‘true’ and exist within the concept of reality. For all of these philosophies to co-exist it must mean that there is one objective reality that is able to hold ground for all of these different perspectives of reality. If not- then this is a completely illogical unreal reality that is based on nothing and cannot be truly understood by anyone. Because its something that should not exist- and yet it exists


The Contingency

An argument from @fk732

1. Logic, reason, and moral absolutes exist.
2. These are immaterial, universal, invariant, and necessary realities.
3. Such realities cannot arise from matter, motion, or chance.
4. Therefore, their existence requires a transcendent, rational source.
5. This source must be personal, rational, and self-existent. God.
6. The denial of God presupposes God, because using logic requires the very framework only He grounds.
7. Therefore, without God, logic, reason, and truth are impossible.

As i’ve said in an elder thread the contingency is literally just a basic fundamental for believing in God, all understands that it requires faith in the idea that an illogical being exists for you to be able to follow something which you know to not be logical

The idea that we MUST have an illogical incomprehensible (non-contingent ‘being’)
is just an assumption and a cop-out from the search for the understanding of our reality. I seriously don’t get how this is thought to be the- “strongest argument for God” when you literally need to believe in a non-contingent being to believe in a christian God in the first place

“Using logic requires the framework that God grounds” again useless thing to mention as your God is literally illogical and needs pre-assumption to exist


all we know are concepts, we know nothing grounded. The ground is nothing except a concept, and so are all these meaningful words which are being spoken… Your concept of a being is nothing more than a concept, so would be your Gods. There’s no realness to anything, as we know none of this to be or to not be


If you are still arguing God’s existence then you are a
tiktokcel // @NinjaRG9

Blah blah blah dnr, enjoy hell faggot

 

[accelerationist]

Blah blah blah dnr, enjoy hell faggot

I am already in hell

 

[recessed.nils]

My first thread was a fail, i will admit it. I simplified and ignored some concepts way too much, i was trying to summarize it altogether without having to get into every single argument for God since- they all are just examples of the same argument.

I’ll be bringing up a specific argument from @theRetard first. Basically he believes that non-existence cannot exist and therefore it means that God exists.

This would mean that everything quite literally exists, and becomes illogical in of itself to have contradicting philosophies all be ‘true’ and exist within the concept of reality. For all of these philosophies to co-exist it must mean that there is one objective reality that is able to hold ground for all of these different perspectives of reality. If not- then this is a completely illogical unreal reality that is based on nothing and cannot be truly understood by anyone. Because its something that should not exist- and yet it exists


The Contingency

An argument from @fk732

1. Logic, reason, and moral absolutes exist.
2. These are immaterial, universal, invariant, and necessary realities.
3. Such realities cannot arise from matter, motion, or chance.
4. Therefore, their existence requires a transcendent, rational source.
5. This source must be personal, rational, and self-existent. God.
6. The denial of God presupposes God, because using logic requires the very framework only He grounds.
7. Therefore, without God, logic, reason, and truth are impossible.

As i’ve said in an elder thread the contingency is literally just a basic fundamental for believing in God, all understands that it requires faith in the idea that an illogical being exists for you to be able to follow something which you know to not be logical

The idea that we MUST have an illogical incomprehensible (non-contingent ‘being’)
is just an assumption and a cop-out from the search for the understanding of our reality. I seriously don’t get how this is thought to be the- “strongest argument for God” when you literally need to believe in a non-contingent being to believe in a christian God in the first place

“Using logic requires the framework that God grounds” again useless thing to mention as your God is literally illogical and needs pre-assumption to exist


all we know are concepts, we know nothing grounded. The ground is nothing except a concept, and so are all these meaningful words which are being spoken… Your concept of a being is nothing more than a concept, so would be your Gods. There’s no realness to anything, as we know none of this to be or to not be


If you are still arguing God’s existence then you are a
tiktokcel // @NinjaRG9

god dosent exist because science have proven that basically i dont care enough to write high iq but basically everything exists, like nothing dosent exist, because if it didnt exist we wouldnt know about it and we know about everytjing that exists and we dont know i mean its hard to explain but nothing is unreachble but ”god” is and all that bs + noahs ark i mean come on

 

[recessed.nils]

Blah blah blah dnr, enjoy hell faggot

proof of god?

 

[accelerationist]

god dosent exist because science have proven that basically i dont care enough to write high iq but basically everything exists, like nothing dosent exist, because if it didnt exist we wouldnt know about it and we know about everytjing that exists and we dont know i mean its hard to explain but nothing is unreachble but ”god” is and all that bs + noahs ark i mean come on

Ngl bro shut the fuck up

 

[EmperorVon]

Holy based thread!

 

[theRetard]

Holy based thread!

according to you this thread does not exist btw

 

[EmperorVon]

according to you this thread does not exist btw

It does exist, it’s not magical god metaphysics. The fact you don’t get this is hilarious.

 

[NinjaRG9]

according to you this thread does not exist btw

 

[accelerationist]

according to you this thread does not exist btw

according to you im a 6’11 chad also

 

[theRetard]

It does exist, it’s not magical god metaphysics. The fact you don’t get this is hilarious.

physics doesn't exist outside of your brain - again all that shit is according to you

 

[NinjaRG9]

according to you im a 6’11 chad also

b-b-b-b-b-b-but you are

 

[EmperorVon]

He doesn’t understand the argument I made that metaphysics is also part of the physical world and not magical god stuff as it’s a concept created by the brain but what would you expect for someone with room temperature iq.

 

[EmperorVon]

physics doesn't exist outside of your brain - again all that shit is according to you

It does you retard, how do you still not understand the argument I made. You’re showing your stupidity it’s embarrassing for you.

 

[theRetard]

He doesn’t understand the argument I made that metaphysics is also part of the physical world and not magical god stuff as it’s a concept created by the brain but what would you expect for someone with room temperature iq.

"everything exists only in your brain"
"muh muh you just got me wrong"

 

[theRetard]

He doesn’t understand the argument I made that metaphysics is also part of the physical world and not magical god stuff as it’s a concept created by the brain but what would you expect for someone with room temperature iq.

-a metaphysical claim

It does you retard, how do you still not understand the argument I made. You’re showing your stupidity it’s embarrassing for you.

you don't exist outside of my brain, just shut up

 

[EmperorVon]

"everything exists only in your brain"
"muh muh you just got me wrong"

Not that it only exists in the brain but that it only exists according to you in the brain, if your brain stopped functioning existence would cease for you but not everyone else.

 

[EmperorVon]

-a metaphysical claim

you don't exist outside of my brain, just shut up

- metaphysics is a made up concept created by the consciousness which only exists because of the brain, a physical material thing not magic.

You don’t exist because outside of my ballsack, just shut up.

 

[theRetard]

Not that it only exists in the brain but that it only exists according to you in the brain, if your brain stopped functioning existence would cease for you but not everyone else.

that bullshit about "muh it exists only in your brain" also exists only in your brain (according to you)

 

[EmperorVon]

that bullshit about "muh it exists only in your brain" also exists only in your brain (according to you)

Yes in a way as all thoughts and ideas come from the brain, even your belief in god and metaphysical gobbedly gook only exists in the brain, we wouldn’t be having this discussion without our brains retard.

 

[theRetard]

- metaphysics is a made up concept created by the consciousness which only exists because of the brain, a physical material thing not magic.

You don’t exist because outside of my ballsack, just shut up.

yeah sure the matter, math, logic etc do not exist, muh they are all made up

 

[accelerationist]

that bullshit about "muh it exists only in your brain" also exists only in your brain (according to you)

You pose the best argument for God although hinders his existence useless

 

[theRetard]

Yes in a way as all thoughts and ideas come from the brain, even your belief in god and metaphysical gobbedly gook only exists in the brain, we wouldn’t be having this discussion without our brains retard.

these are your neurons discuss or your consciousness? just curious

 

[theRetard]

You pose the best argument for God although hinders his existence useless

why?

 

[EmperorVon]

yeah sure the matter, math, logic etc do not exist, muh they are all made up

Matter exists, I said that in the original thing as an example of a physical thing. Math is real but the concept is created by the brain, if you have one of something or five is basic math, logic is a made up concept because of consciousness which only exists in the brain.

 

[EmperorVon]

these are your neurons discuss or your consciousness? just curious

Consciousness is created in the brain it wouldn’t be independent of neurons. The fact you think it is shows your low iq and lack of understanding in basic science.

 

[fashioncel]

Shalom, Can I get a loan.

 

[theRetard]

Matter exists, I said that in the original thing as an example of a physical thing. Math is real but the concept is created by the brain, if you have one of something or five is basic math, logic is a made up concept because of consciousness which only exists in the brain.

ok concepts like logic, objectiveness, existence, math etc exist only in your consciousness, therefore they cannot be the objective truth (truth is also made up shit by your logic) so if it is not the truth, then what's the reason to follow your retarded claims lol

 

[theRetard]

Consciousness is created in the brain it wouldn’t be independent of neurons. The fact you think it is shows your low iq and lack of understanding in basic science.

why do you think that it's consciousness is created by neurons??
why don't you think it's otherwise, or they are tied with each other

 

[accelerationist]

why?

Already made my point on that. I agree with you regarding the argument you’re having with von also i can already see the end-line

 

[EmperorVon]

ok concepts like logic, objectiveness, existence, math etc exist only in your consciousness, therefore they cannot be the objective truth (truth is also made up shit by your logic) so if it is not the truth, then what's the reason to follow your retarded claims lol

What a horrible argument, I follow my claims because I don’t believe in god and because I can’t say something is 100% undeniable factual truth doesn’t mean I shouldn’t have an opinion on something you fucking retard, you live up to your username.

 

[theRetard]

What a horrible argument, I follow my claims because I don’t believe in god and because I can’t say something is 100% undeniable factual truth doesn’t mean I shouldn’t have an opinion on something you fucking retard, you live up to your username.

100% undeniable factual truth exists only in your brain - according to you

 

[EmperorVon]

Already made my point on that. I agree with you regarding the argument you’re having with von also i can already see the end-line

He’s wrong and I am right in that part of the argument btw, prove me wrong brainlet.