Antinatalism is the ultimate truth

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You don't understand life until you get antinatalism

Simple math: there are a way more suffering in this world than pleasure. Also pain is enduring; happiness is fleeting.

For whatever reason pain seems to be more salient to us than good things in life. Negativity trumps positivity in quantity and quality.
 
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Ok, so where is the proof of that?
 
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WATER (for high IQcels).
 
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Then kys
 
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I have been outside enjoying my life, indulging in pleasure and abstaining from pain bhai sorry that I didnt have much time to rot on here :p
 
I have been outside enjoying my life, indulging in pleasure and abstaining from pain
I did that in my teens. I lived more than you so now I rot more than you. :Comfy:
 
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Being subchad is brutal indeed
 
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Good cope bhai
It's true. You're probably a teen. I was enjoying my life too much already when I was your age. Stumbling on this forum as a teen means you did something wrong in your life. 💀
 

typical strawman. antinatalism is about not being born in the first place but once you're born you become slave to survival instinct. It's hard to commit suicide because of how human being are programmed so it's up to the parents to not have children unless they have good genetics and are wealthy.
 
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It's true. You're probably a teen. I was enjoying my life too much already when I was your age. Stumbling on this forum as a teen means you did something wrong in your life. 💀
I'm a high iqcel who understood since age 10 the importance of looks, nothing more to it bhai.
What happened that you stopped enjoying your life?
 
I love living. Every sensation entering my delicate instrument of a nerve system.
 
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I love existing tho, do people generally hate existence or am I an outlier?

you're not even old and your body and mind aren't deteriorating yet. report back in 30 years and let's see how much you enjoy life when everything is going downhill
 
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I'm a high iqcel who understood since age 10 the importance of looks, nothing more to it bhai.
What happened that you stopped enjoying your life?
And how old are you now? You haven't seen enough of the world if you think life is beautiful or you are a self-centered person who thinks life is beautiful simply because you have a better life than others. We live on a planet with murderers, pedophiles, rapists, people who commit suicide, people who sexually abuse children, people who die from a drug overdose, et cetera. I don't think that life is beautiful. You probably haven't faced hardships in your life, but given your age, you will likely have it happen to you someday, although I truly hope you do not. I used to be a very happy boy but life has changed me. Furthermore, I am a lonely loser but that's not why I think "anti-natalism is the truth," it's just the cherry on top of the garbage cake that is my life.
 
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you cant not exist, smart ass
 
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Cope. I hope for your parents sake you aren't an only child.
 
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typical strawman. antinatalism is about not being born in the first place but once you're born you become slave to survival instinct. It's hard to commit suicide because of how human being are programmed so it's up to the parents to not have children unless they have good genetics and are wealthy.
Based on the diagram and what you originally said, if no life is better than life, than just do it.

Hypocrite
 
And how old are you now? You haven't seen enough of the world if you think life is beautiful or you are a self-centered person who thinks life is beautiful simply because you have a better life than others. We live on a planet with murderers, pedophiles, rapists, people who commit suicide, people who sexually abuse children, people who die from a drug overdose, et cetera. I don't think that life is beautiful. You probably haven't faced hardships in your life, but given your age, you will likely have it happen to you someday, although I truly hope you do not. I used to be a very happy boy but life has changed me. Furthermore, I am a lonely loser but that's not why I think "anti-natalism is the truth," it's just the cherry on top of the garbage cake that is my life.
Even tho I am young and understand all of this apart of me still wants to have kids regardless
 
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Disagree. I looked into it and most "antinatalists" are just depressed immature little boys. Top posts of all time on r/antinatalism are shit memes about not wanting to be alive.
 
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Even tho I am young and understand all of this apart of me still wants to have kids regardless
I think it's because you think you are able to protect your children from it; that no harm will befall them in any way. Not just the prospect of any danger that could happen but also the fact that children are going to be a huge disappointment. They're gonna do something you will hate. I don't see any benefit to having children. "Muh bloodline/legacy" is a giga cope because no one will remember you 100 years from now, maybe just your name and a picture of you but that's it.
 
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And how old are you now? You haven't seen enough of the world if you think life is beautiful or you are a self-centered person who thinks life is beautiful simply because you have a better life than others. We live on a planet with murderers, pedophiles, rapists, people who commit suicide, people who sexually abuse children, people who die from a drug overdose, et cetera. I don't think that life is beautiful. You probably haven't faced hardships in your life, but given your age, you will likely have it happen to you someday, although I truly hope you do not. I used to be a very happy boy but life has changed me. Furthermore, I am a lonely loser but that's not why I think "anti-natalism is the truth," it's just the cherry on top of the garbage cake that is my life.
Good doesn't exist to destroy evil, it never will triumph over it, rather it exists in spite of it. We should do good for the sake of it. Anti-natalism is giving up, which we should not do. If you were truly an anti-natalist you should commit to giving up and kill yourself.
 
And how old are you now? You haven't seen enough of the world if you think life is beautiful or you are a self-centered person who thinks life is beautiful simply because you have a better life than others. We live on a planet with murderers, pedophiles, rapists, people who commit suicide, people who sexually abuse children, people who die from a drug overdose, et cetera. I don't think that life is beautiful. You probably haven't faced hardships in your life, but given your age, you will likely have it happen to you someday, although I truly hope you do not. I used to be a very happy boy but life has changed me. Furthermore, I am a lonely loser but that's not why I think "anti-natalism is the truth," it's just the cherry on top of the garbage cake that is my life.
Thoughts, bhai? @emeraldglass
 
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Good doesn't exist to destroy evil, it never will triumph over it, rather it exists in spite of it. We should do good for the sake of it. Anti-natalism is giving up, which we should not do. If you were truly an anti-natalist you should commit to giving up and kill yourself.
Anti-natalism, for me, is about not procreating. It's not about not existing. Furthermore, I am religious so I am not allowed to kill myself but tell me again a few years from now, might have another answer ready for ya.
 
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Anti-natalism, for me, is about not procreating. It's not about not existing. Furthermore, I am religious so I am not allowed to kill myself but tell me again a few years from now, might have another answer ready for ya.
Aren't you supposed to have a family in Islam
 
you cant not exist forever, you cant experience non existing

if ur mom didnt give birth to you some other mom would
 
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antinatalists are just insentient nihilists. theyre on the right track but ultimately fail to see that non-existence is not better or worse than what is
 
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you cant not exist forever, you cant experience non existing

if ur mom didnt give birth to you some other mom would

that doesn't make any sense. other mom would produce other sons and daughters, not me.

not existing is the default. you didn't exist before birth and after death and throughout most of the universe's history.

having life is the weird part.
 
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Aren't you supposed to have a family in Islam
It was encouraged to have children back in those times as the numbers of Islamic people were very low, so it was necessary for survival. Nowadays, there's up to 1.5 or 1.8 billion Islamic people (although many of them are secular). In other words, if the odd one out doesn't want or doesn't have children, that's fine. It has no real impact. In fact, some people naturally cannot conceive. I have a few relatives like that and I think they're extremely lucky: they get to not be alone because they have a partner plus they don't bear the burden of having children. Of course, people who aren't able to have children desperately wish to have children so it's not my place to say "Be happy!" Also, by far the vast majority of Islamic people want to have children and that's the primary reason why they marry. I want to marry to not be lonely, but women only marry to be able to start a family. Thus no one would consider me. Kinda funny in a non-humorous way that I can't even not do anything about my loneliness lest I wish to give up what I believe in. Either I give up on my principles or I stay alone. Decisions, decisions!
 
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I think it's because you think you are able to protect your children from it; that no harm will befall them in any way. Not just the prospect of any danger that could happen but also the fact that children are going to be a huge disappointment. They're gonna do something you will hate. I don't see any benefit to having children. "Muh bloodline/legacy" is a giga cope because no one will remember you 100 years from now, maybe just your name and a picture of you but that's it.
Agreed. I don’t advocate for killing children but it makes me sad when I see mfs in poor countries having like 10 kids and shit because you know all those kids will be born to suffer for the entirety of their childhood most likely. When I was younger my dad would tell me about how poor he was when he still lived in Guyana and since I was young I just thought “fuck this old nigga he’s just yapping” but when I grew up I thought differently
 
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typical strawman. antinatalism is about not being born in the first place but once you're born you become slave to survival instinct. It's hard to commit suicide because of how human being are programmed so it's up to the parents to not have children unless they have good genetics and are wealthy.
Can relate. Suicide seems simply in the movies, but in real life it's hard to do it, not only because of your survival instincts, but also because most of us don't have acess to a quick painless death.
 
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you're not even old and your body and mind aren't deteriorating yet. report back in 30 years and let's see how much you enjoy life when everything is going downhill
Shit argument
he would have lived 30 years more, it he enjoyed these years is a life well spent
 
that doesn't make any sense. other mom would produce other sons and daughters, not me.

not existing is the default. you didn't exist before birth and after death and throughout most of the universe's history.

having life is the weird part.
lol? your consciousness would connect to one of these births. 'you' are nothing so dont be entitled to this body. youre just a system of organs hosting a consciousness

you cant not exist retard, not living is impossible. i bet you write without thinking anything.

you just dont remember existing before this body because 'your' old brains died
 
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Agreed. I don’t advocate for killing children but it makes me sad when I see mfs in poor countries having like 10 kids and shit because you know all those kids will be born to suffer for the entirety of their childhood most likely. When I was younger my dad would tell me about how poor he was when he still lived in Guyana and since I was young I just thought “fuck this old nigga he’s just yapping” but when I grew up I thought differently
Yeah, I'm with you. I'm not advocating for that either. I think poor people who have more than two children are bad parents though. They know they can't provide them with a good life, yet they still have them. Close your legs, damnit! Talk about being selfish.
 
that doesn't make any sense. other mom would produce other sons and daughters, not me.

not existing is the default. you didn't exist before birth and after death and throughout most of the universe's history.

having life is the weird part.
> "having life is the weird part" :soy::soy::soy::soy::soy::soy:
> nigger cant conceive being dead/unconscious forever and its the weirdest nonsense thing to think about

@incel194012940
 
Antinatalism is the most cringe inducing pathetic “belief”
A bunch of depressed people whose lives has no meaning masquerading nihilism as utilitarianism


Its also a waste of time to debate a self destructive doctrine, if every antinatalist does his job there wont be any antinatalist left

Why would you argue with an antinatalist when we both agree that he shouldnt reproduce?
 
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you dont understand conciousmmess. doesmt matter if brain spawns in 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% part of the universe, conciousmmess will attach to it because it has nothing else to attach to and you cant experience not existing/nothingness

youre like the persons that feel bad about some rocks being destroyed kek

life is simply unavoidable and has been forever. it is not weird. it is simply unlucky that it happened to be this way
 
The figure is stupid because the absence of pleasure is objectively bad. The correct logic is that suffering is inherent whereas pleasure isn't.
 
The figure is stupid because the absence of pleasure is objectively bad. The correct logic is that suffering is inherent whereas pleasure isn't.
Absence of pleasure can be a great thing, actually. Pleasure is the foundation of addiction. Addiction kills.
 
antinatalists are just insentient nihilists. theyre on the right track but ultimately fail to see that non-existence is not better or worse than what is
Ironic.
 
lol? your consciousness would connect to one of these births. 'you' are nothing so dont be entitled to this body. youre just a system of organs hosting a consciousness

you cant not exist retard, not living is impossible. i bet you write without thinking anything.

you just dont remember existing before this body because 'your' old brains died

my consciousness is uniquely tied to neuronal structures of my brain unless you're talking about some kind of 'spirit' floating in the ether like a medieval caveman

I don't even feel my consciousness or self identity when I'm sleeping yet it's too insane to imagine not having one? I experience it everyday when I go to sleep
 
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Absence of pleasure can be a great thing, actually. Pleasure is the foundation of addiction. Addiction kills.
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"Addiction kills" in some cases because that addiction is causing the body to rapidly deteriorate. The pleasure factor is irrelevant.
 

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