are extractions inevitable in this case? is MSE worth it considering its cons?

hopecel

hopecel

anti-Eurocentric
Joined
Jun 2, 2023
Posts
6,457
Reputation
8,505
I've got a subhuman (8 teeth if matters) smile so it's priority for me to fix it now via braces but... are teeth extractions the only way to decent smile in my case?

will it inevitably fuck up my face and recess me?

is it better to put MSE on regardless of its cons (nose widening & teeth gaps) rather than having teeth extractions?

4143413 photo 2024 05 02 11 12 12
btw I'm 20 yo


@DR. NICKGA @5'7 zoomer @BrahminBoss @๕ඞChick3ncu1ry @aspiringexcel @Clown Show @shizuku11111 @noprogressno @Clavicular
 
  • +1
  • So Sad
Reactions: Debetro, ㅤㅤㅤㅤClavicular, aspiringexcel and 2 others
Sort by date Sort by votes
I actually don't know if the orthodontist could even put MSE on considering my brutal crowding
 
  • Woah
  • Hmm...
Reactions: 6PSLcel and 5'7 zoomer
Upvote 0 Downvote
@mvp2v1 @the BULL @ConfusedBolivian @IAMNOTANINCEL
 
  • JFL
Reactions: 5'7 zoomer
Upvote 0 Downvote
Who cared about a fucking decent smile, usseless
 
  • JFL
Reactions: 5'7 zoomer
Upvote 0 Downvote
Just fix only you teeths with no extractions or palate expanders
 
  • +1
  • JFL
  • Woah
Reactions: likenesss, mirrormogger, 5'7 zoomer and 1 other person
Upvote 0 Downvote
hopecel said:
@mvp2v1 @the BULL @ConfusedBolivian @IAMNOTANINCEL
Click to expand...
there are many ways of fixing this. Go get EASE, or get FME for example. Where are you located?
 
  • +1
  • JFL
Reactions: likenesss, 5'7 zoomer and hopecel
Upvote 0 Downvote
DR. NICKGA said:
Who cared about a fucking decent smile, usseless
Click to expand...
my smile is really subhuman-tier

I've got a 3.5mm gap between central and lateral incisor which is a truecel trait ngl
DR. NICKGA said:
Just fix only you teeths with no extractions or palate expanders
Click to expand...
but how? my crowding is death-tier

there's no space as you can see
mvp2v1 said:
there are many ways of fixing this. Go get EASE, or get FME for example. Where are you located?
Click to expand...
Balkan, idk if such expanders are available here also how much do they cost?

I'm broke Jeffrey ngl the most I can spend on teeth correction is 1-1.5k euros
 
  • Woah
Reactions: 5'7 zoomer
Upvote 0 Downvote
mvp2v1 said:
that wont be enough. you would need around 10k. that's what I spent for biobloc.
Click to expand...
over

most likely gonna have extractions then :ogre: did biobloc help you?

also do you think thumbpulling can help me in this case? I've seen results in cheekbones and jaw but palate expansion hasn't been significant until now (I'm doing it inconsistently for 1.5 years) ngl

look at this user :feelsgood: I wish I could achieve such results with that: https://looksmax.org/threads/i-thumb-pulled-for-6-months-straight-here-are-my-results.268619/
 
  • So Sad
Reactions: 5'7 zoomer
Upvote 0 Downvote
hopecel said:
over

most likely gonna have extractions then :ogre: did biobloc help you?

also do you think thumbpulling can help me in this case? I've seen results in cheekbones and jaw but palate expansion hasn't been significant until now (I'm doing it inconsistently for 1.5 years) ngl

look at this user :feelsgood: I wish I could achieve such results with that: https://looksmax.org/threads/i-thumb-pulled-for-6-months-straight-here-are-my-results.268619/
Click to expand...
yeah I've seen that post. I personally tried thumbpulling but couldn't maintain the results overnight and thus didn't make any progress despite an hour of pulling daily for 3 months. (there is an argument to be made that thumbpulling results are compounding and as such it takes a while to start getting small results but every marginal result increases in magnitude...) Regardless I ended up taking the safe route and getting biobloc, which has been a big success for me. I;ve expanded about ~3-4mm so far and my midface is noticeably wider, cheekbones expanded laterally etc. My nasal breathing is notably better now, I used to wake up every day with a stuffed nose (and as the air in my room is dry all the mucus would be dry and I would have to pick at it in order to breath well) and now I never experience that.
I still have another 3mm to go. Since I'm long distance the treatment has been a little more rocky then usual. If I could go back in time I would have learned how to tighten the appliance right from the start. for the first couple months I was not tightening it and as such I had gotten less expansion then I should have and flared out teeth. Since correcting that expansion has been much faster and without flaring.
 
  • +1
  • Woah
Reactions: hopecel, 5'7 zoomer and greycel
Upvote 1 Downvote
mvp2v1 said:
yeah I've seen that post. I personally tried thumbpulling but couldn't maintain the results overnight and thus didn't make any progress despite an hour of pulling daily for 3 months. (there is an argument to be made that thumbpulling results are compounding and as such it takes a while to start getting small results but every marginal result increases in magnitude...) Regardless I ended up taking the safe route and getting biobloc, which has been a big success for me. I;ve expanded about ~3-4mm so far and my midface is noticeably wider, cheekbones expanded laterally etc. My nasal breathing is notably better now, I used to wake up every day with a stuffed nose (and as the air in my room is dry all the mucus would be dry and I would have to pick at it in order to breath well) and now I never experience that.
I still have another 3mm to go. Since I'm long distance the treatment has been a little more rocky then usual. If I could go back in time I would have learned how to tighten the appliance right from the start. for the first couple months I was not tightening it and as such I had gotten less expansion then I should have and flared out teeth. Since correcting that expansion has been much faster and without flaring.
Click to expand...
well it seems to me that 6 times x 10 mins > 1 time x 60 mins when it comes to thumbpulling results

in other words frequency of sets is kinda more important than duration tbh still I'm not sure if that could be as fast as any device... probably not


idk maybe I should have extraction and put an implant instead of my tooth? does it have any cons?
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
<6PSLcel said:
it's not just about the smile lil bro
Click to expand...
well it's the main reason since my smile is really really subhuman tier

ik it has an impact on overall posture etc but aesthetics are everything
 
  • +1
Reactions: 6PSLcel
Upvote 0 Downvote
hopecel said:
well it's the main reason since my smile is really really subhuman tier

ik it has an impact on overall posture etc but aesthetics are everything
Click to expand...
Do you count the teeth in the back shadows when counting how many are in ur smile?
 
  • +1
Reactions: hopecel
Upvote 0 Downvote
isnt with braces fixable? but like it will took like 5 years for fix the whole stuff?
 
  • Hmm...
Reactions: hopecel
Upvote 0 Downvote
Upvote 0 Downvote
sub5pslathlete said:
Don’t get mse
Braces
Or stripping
Teeth removal not bad option
Click to expand...
if they extracted my premolars on the left side does it automatically mean they will have to do the same on the right side?

what about receding?

also the orhodontist said if they extracted any of these two (either 4th or 5th tooth) it would possibly make the bone weaker and even probably loosen another tooth
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
UPDATE: the orthodontist said I can't fix this with braces/orthodontics and subtly suggested me to fix smile with dental brigdes jfl

also I asked if expander would help she said "no, you already have enough space"

is it over? @PARISIEN @DR. NICKGA @mvp2v1 @<6PSLcel
 
Last edited:
  • +1
Reactions: 6PSLcel
Upvote 0 Downvote
hopecel said:
UPDATE: the orthodontist said I can't fix this with braces/orthodontics and subtly suggested me to fix smile with dental brigdes jfl

is it over? @PARISIEN @DR. NICKGA @mvp2v1 @<6PSLcel
Click to expand...
Idek whya. Dental bridge is, what is the problem with ur teeth again ? Just a narrow palate or what ?
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
<6PSLcel said:
Idek whya. Dental bridge is, what is the problem with ur teeth again ? Just a narrow palate or what ?
Click to expand...
death tier smile

my palate is kinda average I guess it's not that much narrow
 
  • +1
Reactions: 6PSLcel
Upvote 0 Downvote
hopecel said:
UPDATE: the orthodontist said I can't fix this with braces/orthodontics and subtly suggested me to fix smile with dental brigdes jfl

also I asked if expander would help she said "no, you already have enough space"

is it over? @PARISIEN @DR. NICKGA @mvp2v1 @<6PSLcel
Click to expand...
does that dentist have good rating? mb he is a lazyfuck
 
  • Hmm...
Reactions: hopecel
Upvote 0 Downvote
PARISIEN said:
does that dentist have good rating? mb he is a lazyfuck
Click to expand...
she* works together with her husband and they seemed very reliable imo

they're not lazy it's just my teeth being brutally crowded
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
hopecel said:
she* works together with her husband and they seemed very reliable imo

they're not lazy it's just my teeth being brutally crowded
Click to expand...

did they showed u of what ur teeth would look like after the work, and are u satisfied with those projection ? if yes -> all in but have no expectations.

if no ask for those
 
  • +1
Reactions: hopecel
Upvote 0 Downvote
PARISIEN said:
did they showed u of what ur teeth would look like after the work, and are u satisfied with those projection ? if yes -> all in but have no expectations.

if no ask for those
Click to expand...
nah they took a dental scan and analyzed my occlusion and they said it was impossible to straighten my teeth without extraction and extraction would cause weakening of the bone and maybe one tooth falling out because my first premolar is all the way out and the second is all the way in so they are resting on each other they said

I also have a 3.5 mm gap between my incisors with the second one growing high... brutal
maou said:
what are cons of MSE?
Click to expand...
looksmax.org

are extractions inevitable in this case? is MSE worth it considering its cons?

I've got a subhuman (8 teeth if matters) smile so it's priority for me to fix it now via braces but... are teeth extractions the only way to decent smile in my case? will it inevitably fuck up my face and recess me? is it better to put MSE on regardless of its cons (nose widening & teeth...
looksmax.org looksmax.org
Haseeb said:
There the space u wanted get braces it'll be fine
Click to expand...
they said it's unfixable
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
hopecel said:
nah they took a dental scan and analyzed my occlusion and they said it was impossible to straighten my teeth without extraction and extraction would cause weakening of the bone and maybe one tooth falling out because my first premolar is all the way out and the second is all the way in so they are resting on each other they said

I also have a 3.5 mm gap between my incisors with the second one growing high... brutal

looksmax.org

are extractions inevitable in this case? is MSE worth it considering its cons?

I've got a subhuman (8 teeth if matters) smile so it's priority for me to fix it now via braces but... are teeth extractions the only way to decent smile in my case? will it inevitably fuck up my face and recess me? is it better to put MSE on regardless of its cons (nose widening & teeth...
looksmax.org looksmax.org

they said it's unfixable
Click to expand...
Get a second opinion
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
life is garbage sometimes and most of operation are rarely incredible. to me do it fast and go to the next step of life and try to not to think about it, do everything you can to become hopecelPRIME
 
  • JFL
Reactions: hopecel
Upvote 0 Downvote
PARISIEN said:
life is garbage sometimes and most of operation are rarely incredible. to me do it fast and go to the next step of life and try to not to think about it, do everything you can to become hopecelPRIME
Click to expand...
hopecel is a brokecel so how can I escape teethceldom? I can spend 1-1,5k at the best

I might even become ropecel if I don't fix this shit within few years... honestly there's no point of living life if you have subhuman (and no it's not muh gummy) smile... it's an actual truecel feature
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
hopecel said:
hopecel is a brokecel so how can I escape teethceldom? I can spend 1-1,5k at the best

I might even become ropecel if I don't fix this shit within few years... honestly there's no point of living life if you have subhuman (and no it's not muh gummy) smile... it's an actual truecel feature
Click to expand...
what the cost ?
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
You can't get MSE, and extractions will mess up your maxilla and cheekbones most likely. You need to expand the palate with some kind of expander. Search up orthotropics expanders and try to find an orthotropist near you. You need something like homeo block, biobloc, or a frank device etc.
 
  • +1
Reactions: hopecel
Upvote 0 Downvote
Doomer said:
You can't get MSE, and extractions will mess up your maxilla and cheekbones most likely. You need to expand the palate with some kind of expander. Search up orthotropics expanders and try to find an orthotropist near you. You need something like homeo block, biobloc, or a frank device etc.
Click to expand...
but the orthodontist told me I don't need any expansion and I specifically asked for some kind of expanders and she said "no, you already have enough space"

I'm currently coping with thumbpulling, do you think that stuff can help me by any means? it seems to me that the method actually CAN have an impact on teeth position, wdyt? my biggest problem are premolars so I'm wondering if I could move them somehow? as far as I remember my second premolar changed its position a little bit after thumbpulling + hard mewing but idk it kinda takes a lot of time
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
hopecel said:
I've got a subhuman (8 teeth if matters) smile so it's priority for me to fix it now via braces but... are teeth extractions the only way to decent smile in my case?

will it inevitably fuck up my face and recess me?

is it better to put MSE on regardless of its cons (nose widening & teeth gaps) rather than having teeth extractions?

View attachment 2930739
btw I'm 20 yo


@DR. NICKGA @5'7 zoomer @BrahminBoss @๕ඞChick3ncu1ry @aspiringexcel @Clown Show @shizuku11111 @noprogressno @Clavicular
Click to expand...
hopecel said:
but the orthodontist told me I don't need any expansion and I specifically asked for some kind of expanders and she said "no, you already have enough space"

I'm currently coping with thumbpulling, do you think that stuff can help me by any means? it seems to me that the method actually CAN have an impact on teeth position, wdyt? my biggest problem are premolars so I'm wondering if I could move them somehow? as far as I remember my second premolar changed its position a little bit after thumbpulling + hard mewing but idk it kinda takes a lot of time
Click to expand...
@Clavicular what do you think bro? can thumbpulling change anything in my favor?
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
hopecel said:
but the orthodontist told me I don't need any expansion and I specifically asked for some kind of expanders and she said "no, you already have enough space"

I'm currently coping with thumbpulling, do you think that stuff can help me by any means? it seems to me that the method actually CAN have an impact on teeth position, wdyt? my biggest problem are premolars so I'm wondering if I could move them somehow? as far as I remember my second premolar changed its position a little bit after thumbpulling + hard mewing but idk it kinda takes a lot of time
Click to expand...
It might work -
An orthotropic device will be better.
Also, if you already have high-set wide cheekbones, palate expansion is unnecessary. Though, if your palate is a flat U, then the back palate needs expansion.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
hopecel said:
I've got a subhuman (8 teeth if matters) smile so it's priority for me to fix it now via braces but... are teeth extractions the only way to decent smile in my case?

will it inevitably fuck up my face and recess me?

is it better to put MSE on regardless of its cons (nose widening & teeth gaps) rather than having teeth extractions?

View attachment 2930739
btw I'm 20 yo


@DR. NICKGA @5'7 zoomer @BrahminBoss @๕ඞChick3ncu1ry @aspiringexcel @Clown Show @shizuku11111 @noprogressno @Clavicular
Click to expand...
pallate expander
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
You must log in or register to reply here.

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 2 (Looksmaxers: 0, Bluepillers: 2)
Back
Top