Tell that to clav whos gone infertile, unlike others who just wanna fuck and be lustful after ascending, I already have my plan laid out and once its done I will leave all this shit behind, Im just looking for solutions maybe something can change my mind...
he obviously just says that to crack, dont act like hcg and pct dont exist
Sounds like how everyone first think looksmaxxing is going to impact their life, if youre high iq theres no reason to not pin test, side effecs can be minimized and you wont have to rely on test for the rest of your life if you use it right.
high inhib nigger cope
What you say about peptides and roids is absolutely right but I would also add that hardmaxxing with which I believe you mean surgery is also kind of cope. I made a thread about it, read it and let me know what you think: https://looksmax.org/threads/surgery-is-cope.2041237/#post-28315995
I agree
OK ill get to reading it later, but how can you say something like tounge tie removal can be cope when your literally removing the thing thast holding your tounge from it being in its natural position, and then upgrading swallowing and chewing+mewing, as well as rhinoplasty is literally one of the best and most common hardmaxxes as it is a quick upg
hcg and pct lol do two seconds of research your balls will be fine
Lol how is it cope when ur thinking long term and for the future, ur coping by thinking roids will keep you good looking forever dumbass
Yes I do agree im probably a greycel, I discovered forums in 6th grade now im 16 but I left .org a long time ago and came back, but my question to you is, how would you not rely on test for the rest of your life, when your body stops producing it naturally because after you stop taking test your going to be drastically weaker in energy and physically then you were before, so your nerfing yourself even worse then before you started taking test
100%
minor surgeries like tongue tie removal and the surgery for protruding ears are good but all the double jaw surgery, genioplasty, rhino etc... are really not imo
Again your proving me right, you have to rely on more items to combat the side effects which you will have to rely on as long as you take those roids and you will be signifcantly worse once you stop taking them
everything in life is temporary
retard
I agree allat shit like double jaw surgery is cope and the recovery is going to take too long with the chances of you maybe even not wanting to look like that
that your response? Nothing else?
Yes but that doesnt mean you should sacrifice a decade of your life just to throw away the next 30-40 years
gurb is correct roids and peptides will ascend you very far but, you dont wanna buy overpriced ratpiss from china. Do some research and find a good grey market vender. I would recomnd ghk-cu and hgh if you have money and want a 20-23 week cycle.
"Yes, long-term or high-dose use of synthetic human growth hormone (HGH) can cause significant organ growth and structural changes, particularly a condition known as acromegaly. Excessive HGH leads to increased levels of insulin-like growth factor 1 (IGF-1), which triggers tissue growth and internal organ enlargement (hypertrophy)."Although this is one of the side effects of hgh, the pros outweigh the cons greatly,"Human growth hormone (HGH) benefits in adults with verified deficiency include increased muscle mass, reduced body fat, improved bone density, and higher energy levels. Therapeutically, it helps treat muscle wasting from HIV/AIDS and can enhance exercise capacity. While it is marketed for anti-aging, studies on healthy adults show mixed results"
Your still proving my point right, you have to rely on other things that cost a lot more money and themselves have side effects of their own, your literally not only change the way you appear but the way you will act as well,
can allat bad stuff lead to organ faliure?
yea no buddy it's 100% safe ogran enlargement is totally normal espically for growing teens
Well if your body completely shuts down your natural testosterone production, that means youre foing it wrong, most likely caused by overusage
What type of doctor can I ask about this? Also im 6 foot should I still be taking hgh? One problem that I have though is an assymetrical mandible and a narrow mandible I suspect, also not that much forward growth, idk a lot about hgh but would that help trigger growth in those areas? And will there be a significant change once I stop taking hgh?
Even if you do what your saying, will your body naturally stop producing less testostrone then before?
Roids are only good in the short term. Like op said you either stay on them for life, sacrificing health including fertility, or just do a few cycles just to go back to baseline after you stop injecting and still having to take other shit to avoid side effects (and it's not guaranteed you do). You might say you don't care about your health or fertility for example, but to make such a decision in your 20s or teens is a big commitment, because how can you be sure you will not regret it later in your life ? And by late I don't mean when you are 60, even as early as your 30s
Yes I agree I think roids are definitely a no go, but I think maybe peptides much change my mind if they are somewhat can be useful for my ancesion
Yes but after you get off cycle it usually takes a few months and youre testosterone production will be back to normal
Yes, sometimes people need to go back, do their own research and evaluate themselves.
wdym by take test smartly? How do you not stop your natural testostrone function whilst taking it.
omg your so cool for dissagreeing with my opinion and then not providing any reasoning for whyYes, sometimes people need to go back, do their own research and evaluate themselves.
Everything you've said is so retarded there's no place for me to start except telling you to start from within
Theres a lot of other substances you can use to mimigate side effects, also being smart with dosing is very important
pct bhai pct
yes but can you be more specific, Id like to fact check what your saying and then decide for myself wether I should actually look into it or not?
Yes ik but relying on that for the rest of your life isnt logical as that also contains its own side effects like making you more angry and raging
you dont, its inevitable your testosteone production will shutdown when injecting exogenously, because ur testes are no longer needed.
Tbh I think light hardmaxxing according to your base is key and ideal
wym relying on it for the rest of ur life?? are u sub 90 iq? u take pct when ur done with gear and you never have to take it again
Someone replied saying if you take test "smartly" your testostrone reproduction will not slow down or shut down
it will, but u can run hcg on cycle to stimulate ur testes and run pct when ur done with gearSomeone replied saying if you take test "smartly" your testostrone reproduction will not slow down or shut down
So your saying you will be as strong and doing this will leave no permanent damage
yes but why? Your never going to go back to normal and you will face side effects and have to rely on extrenal things for the rest of your life
Define light hardmaxxing
omds bro r u fucking stupid, u take a pct once and u dont have to run gear, bro the face sides are way better then the little bit of acne u get which u can jst run accutane for, and you do go back to normal
tounge tie removal, rhinoplasty, fillers etc Nothing like double jaw surgery that require insane amount of time for recovery and might not look the way u wanted it to look at the end....
