Are surgeries even worth it

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The only time where you can get them is at 18+ depending on the price and amount even higher but atp your life is already mostly over imo and if you never had good experiences as a sub18 surgery wont rlly fix ur mental state
 
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The only time where you can get them is at 18+ depending on the price and amount even higher but atp your life is already mostly over imo and if you never had good experiences as a sub18 surgery wont rlly fix ur mental state
Bro please just shut the fuck up why don’t you just kill yourself if life is over after 18+ ? And it depends on the surgery lmao you can also just do fucking fillers to get from mtn to htn +
 
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The only time where you can get them is at 18+ depending on the price and amount even higher but atp your life is already mostly over imo and if you never had good experiences as a sub18 surgery wont rlly fix ur mental state
Iqlet
 
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The two replies are retarted, you definitely have a point, not having the looks in your development will have an effect on you. Having that positive reinforcement during puberty is very important, getting to that looks level later through surgery isnt the same at all.
 
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, getting to that looks level later through surgery isnt the same at all.
it’s not the same but it’s not “mostly over” too lol
 
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Yeah for obvious falios.
 
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No. Your life isn't mostly over after 18. Plenty of time to have experience stuff and most importantly start a family. I do get what you mean with the mental side of things, but as long as you aren't truly beyond saving mentally (some people in here definitely are), I believe it isn't over. I personally didn't ever recieve alot of positive reinforcement, but I also didn't negative reinforcement either, so I think my chances of adapting mentally are good. I also learned to accept the fact that I was unfortunate looking pretty fast, so I never really sperged out about "ooh the whole world hates me" or shit like that.

Personally I struggle with the fact that Im looking at spending around 25k on a surgery (most of my savings) just because I was born a certain way / didn't have proper development. This is an insane amount of money to spend and it only truly hit me after my first few consultations. I could've invested all this money and set myself up for a pretty good start for the future, but oh well.

Im also not low inhib enough to talk about this to almost anybody IRL. Only my parents and a close friend of mine know about my struggles to some extent. Most likely I will never be brave enough to tell anybody that I spent 25k on surgeries to look better. I will probably larp that I had major functional issues and I opted to fix them with surgery.

But to answer you question after the personal vent: I don't think you will ever forget your struggles and insecurities in the past even if you ascend and your life gets significantly better. They are a part of you. If the surgeries don't work out or you can't find good copes in life, you can still rope as an oldcel afterwards (wouldn't recommend it). Atleast you tried.
 
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No. Your life isn't mostly over after 18. Plenty of time to have experience stuff and most importantly start a family. I do get what you mean with the mental side of things, but as long as you aren't truly beyond saving mentally (some people in here definitely are), I believe it isn't over. I personally didn't ever recieve alot of positive reinforcement, but I also didn't negative reinforcement either, so I think my chances of adapting mentally are good. I also learned to accept the fact that I was unfortunate looking pretty fast, so I never really sperged out about "ooh the whole world hates me" or shit like that.

Personally I struggle with the fact that Im looking at spending around 25k on a surgery (most of my savings) just because I was born a certain way / didn't have proper development. This is an insane amount of money to spend and it only truly hit me after my first few consultations. I could've invested all this money and set myself up for a pretty good start for the future, but oh well.

Im also not low inhib enough to talk about this to almost anybody IRL. Only my parents and a close friend of mine know about my struggles to some extent. Most likely I will never be brave enough to tell anybody that I spent 25k on surgeries to look better. I will probably larp that I had major functional issues and I opted to fix them with surgery.

But to answer you question after the personal vent: I don't think you will ever forget your struggles and insecurities in the past even if you ascend and your life gets significantly better. They are a part of you. If the surgeries don't work out or you can't find good copes in life, you can still rope as an oldcel afterwards (wouldn't recommend it). Atleast you tried.
there’s no need to be brave lol, no one needs to know the truth. as long as u feel good nothing really matters
 
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and therefore its absolutely worthless?
No not worthless, ofc surgeries will improve your face and result in improved treatment, but having had that negative reinforcement during puberty is an issue. At least try to make the best of your situation ofc.
 
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Nigga is a
Nigga is a grey with 50 posts and a july join date actually talking to me? Go back to ur tiktok shithole retard
 
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The two replies are retarted, you definitely have a point, not having the looks in your development will have an effect on you. Having that positive reinforcement during puberty is very important, getting to that looks level later through surgery isnt the same at all.
My point is that even if you get surgeries at 18 and heal by 19 you will never have as many social connections as the attractive people bc until 18 you were constantly surrounded by 100+ people your age who you saw daily.

Once school ends the only place where you can find that many people your age is at clubs where they all mostly are degenerates
 
My point is that even if you get surgeries at 18 and heal by 19 you will never have as many social connections as the attractive people bc until 18 you were constantly surrounded by 100+ people your age who you saw daily.

Once school ends the only place where you can find that many people your age is at clubs where they all mostly are degenerates
19 is best case scenario
 
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My point is that even if you get surgeries at 18 and heal by 19 you will never have as many social connections as the attractive people bc until 18 you were constantly surrounded by 100+ people your age who you saw daily.
You seem out of touch with reality. You think attractive people just have hundreds of people orbiting around them? :lul:
Once school ends the only place where you can find that many people your age is at clubs where they all mostly are degenerates
You don't plan on going to uni?

"Muh most people at the club are just degenerates" No, most people at the club are totally regular people even though clubbing itself as an activity might seem degenarate.
 
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The only time where you can get them is at 18+ depending on the price and amount even higher but atp your life is already mostly over imo and if you never had good experiences as a sub18 surgery wont rlly fix ur mental state
Just to share my own experience, having felt the same when I was around your age: I was an obese KHHV incel until I was 22. Relentlessly mistreated in middle/high school. Had to switch to online schooling near the end. I was a super super super mentally ill shut-in from about 17-21. I spent most of what people consider TRUE prime years locked up in my house wanting to end myself. But I did eventually lose weight, leave my isolation, go to university, make friends, slay, have girlfriends, get a job, travel, learn to drive a car etc. All of these things were very fun and while I still have slight insecurities about my looks, in that time I still manage to enjoy and live my life. I'd say overall my mental health is fine

Now, this has nothing to do with surgery. I haven't gotten it yet. But I just wanna let you know it's stupid to think that your life is over after x age, or that having insecurities about your appearance means you are somehow unable to enjoy your life otherwise. Stop comparing yourself to people that were more attractive than you when you were young, if you get into that type of comparison then you will never actually appreciate the good things that have, will or can happen in your own life

Basically shut the fuck up and quit with this self-defeating bullshit. Go do what you have to do to improve your looks and then enjoy. Once you actually change your life you WILL let those bad times when you were younger fade into nothing but a distant memory. I promise you that once you are in the moment it'll all be alright my guy

TLDR: Just do what you gotta do and you'll be fine
 
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The two replies are retarted, you definitely have a point, not having the looks in your development will have an effect on you. Having that positive reinforcement during puberty is very important, getting to that looks level later through surgery isnt the same at all.
positive reinforcement mommy asmr solves all
 
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Just to share my own experience, having felt the same when I was around your age: I was an obese KHHV incel until I was 22. Relentlessly mistreated in middle/high school. Had to switch to online schooling near the end. I was a super super super mentally ill shut-in from about 17-21. I spent most of what people consider TRUE prime years locked up in my house wanting to end myself. But I did eventually lose weight, leave my isolation, go to university, make friends, slay, have girlfriends, get a job, travel, learn to drive a car etc. All of these things were very fun and while I still have slight insecurities about my looks, in that time I still manage to enjoy and live my life. I'd say overall my mental health is fine

Now, this has nothing to do with surgery. I haven't gotten it yet. But I just wanna let you know it's stupid to think that your life is over after x age, or that having insecurities about your appearance means you are somehow unable to enjoy your life otherwise. Stop comparing yourself to people that were more attractive than you when you were young, if you get into that type of comparison then you will never actually appreciate the good things that have, will or can happen in your own life

Basically shut the fuck up and quit with this self-defeating bullshit. Go do what you have to do to improve your looks and then enjoy. Once you actually change your life you WILL let those bad times when you were younger fade into nothing but a distant memory. I promise you that once you are in the moment it'll all be alright my guy

TLDR: Just do what you gotta do and you'll be fine
so true dude, that type of thinking is such a black hole. Imo they're only prime years cause most niggas don't take care of their youth factors and just do shit that physically degrades them (pretty water but I gt write it out) and then workrot. 22, or even 27 is like not even a third of ur life, so to call it quits so early when you've still got alot of potential youth left is insane. That nigga just needs to maintain his youth and follow healthy habits and he'll be good. And honestly everyone stumbles, so if U can give urself a huge boost by ascending hard ull atleast have a leg up where everyone else doesnt. Plus those are prime years due to the least amount of responsibility and financial freedom that dudes have, so if U can relatively increase ur money to the degree ur massively improving ur looks then ull be free in that aspect aswell. Atleast those are my current thoughts till I get depressed on this subject again prolly tmr.
 
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so true dude, that type of thinking is such a black hole. Imo they're only prime years cause most niggas don't take care of their youth factors and just do shit that physically degrades them (pretty water but I gt write it out) and then workrot. 22, or even 27 is like not even a third of ur life, so to call it quits so early when you've still got alot of potential youth left is insane. That nigga just needs to maintain his youth and follow healthy habits and he'll be good. And honestly everyone stumbles, so if U can give urself a huge boost by ascending hard ull atleast have a leg up where everyone else doesnt. Plus those are prime years due to the least amount of responsibility and financial freedom that dudes have, so if U can relatively increase ur money to the degree ur massively improving ur looks then ull be free in that aspect aswell. Atleast those are my current thoughts till I get depressed on this subject again prolly tmr.
Yeah indeed. Your "prime" is whatever you make of it. Like sure maybe if you're like 54 or something fine, a little late to the party gramps. But so many famous .org ascensions are people in their late 20s or early 30s for example. So many people here act as though upon hitting 25 you turn into a shriveled grape and then are forced into a suburban townhouse with 2 kids and a dog, never allowed to experience enjoyment for the rest of their lives :lul: it's ridiculous
 
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Yeah indeed. Your "prime" is whatever you make of it. Like sure maybe if you're like 54 or something fine, a little late to the party gramps. But so many famous .org ascensions are people in their late 20s or early 30s for example. So many people here act as though upon hitting 25 you turn into a shriveled grape and then are forced into a suburban townhouse with 2 kids and a dog, never allowed to experience enjoyment for the rest of their lives :lul: it's ridiculous
:lul::lul:. But yeah alot of guys gt realize the extreme shit we're doing to change our looks can also be done to an extent to our youth factors. So staying young for longer is very possible with everyone we do here.
 

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