
chaddyboi66
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I might not agree with everything they say, but by no means would ever them stupid for having those opinions, regardless of how ridiculous they may see, because they see and test what they believe and often only don't believe in things that mostly use theory like with most modern "high level" Scientism.Flat-Earthers seem to have a very low standard of evidence for what they want to believe but an impossibly high standard of evidence for what they don’t want to believe.
A small sun on the surface of Earth would simply recede high in the sky and get smaller and smaller until it fades away. It absolutely would not retain the same angular size and set below the horizon. That’s a fact. No wonder where you are on the Earth.
At 12:15 mark he talks about ‘atmospheric lensing’ and says that the reason we see sun go down is because of water molecules in air. How do all those water molecules that make up around 1% of the atmosphere produce thousand times greater refractive effect then actual liquid water? Explain how this only applies to sun and nothing else? Why does the sun behave this way? Show me a projectile or a plane going below the horizon as it recedes. Have you ever seen a plane in the sky moving away from you and just recedes into the horizon while retaining the same size? Why doesn’t this refraction seem to work on it?
There is probably such a great refractive effect on the sun because it's the most radiant object in the sky.
Also, refraction isn't the only the only reason he gives for the sun disappearing into the horizon he just argues that it also contributes to the effect, because the primary reason he argues for this is due to the law of perspective; the object, no matter how high or large, would appear to shrink into the horizon in your view.
An example of this is shown in the same time stamp of the video I gave you with the boat going into the horizon as it recedes from your view, and coming back into you view once you zoom in:
Not a very convincing argument. Like i said before, you guys have really low standard of evidence for what you want to believe.
There’s no “probably” in the spherical Earth model. You can explain every single phenomenon that occurs on Earth with precision and certainty using 1 model only. While you have a different model to explain seasons and different for night and day and another one to explain the Coriolis effect. Theres just too many inconsistencies and contradictions in your flat earth theory that it’s insane to me how anyone can believe it.
I say probably because I genuinely don't know, and like you I'm learning about flat Earth as I do more research about it, but I'm not a flat Earther because I also genuinely don't know about the shape of the either.
However, I do reject the globular model because it seems even more ridiculous, and I'm presenting their arguments here because they are able to justify how various phenomena of our world would on a flat Earth model.
And believe it or not, the flat Earthers don't just have a low standard of evidence for things they believe and a high standard of evidence for things they don't believe, because they're skeptical of things that can't be tested and rely on theory like most of modern "high level" Scientism.
Also, there are no different models and all explanations/justification are applied on the same one:

Flat Earth Sun, Moon & Zodiac
The Flat Earth Sun & Moon Clock shows you where you are and where the sun and moon are on their journey around the face of the earth as shown on the Azimuthal Equidistant map. You can see where the daylight and night time are as well as the position and phase of the moon as the sun slowly laps...
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You're talk of alleged inconsistency in the flat Earth model, yet so far I've given you justifications for everything you've asked on how various phenomena would work on a flat Earth:
The "Flat Earth Society" is definitively controlled opposition or troll, but if you if you check out people like Eric Dubay and his organization then you'll find people that are completely legit in what they believe and actually try to test this shit for real tbh.
People often cite the idea of NASA being "too small to cover it up" or muh "everyone can't be in on it", but even if you don't think NASA's out there trying to cover up FE one could also easily make an argument for the organization just being a giant money laundering scheme for moving tax payer money under the carpet for things government would rather not have on the books.
If most people capable enough for independent thought can easily reason that Jews mostly control the world [[ISPOILER]which in a way they do though there are also people above them too[/ISPOILER]], then they can also reason that a certain government organization with vast global influence, whose entire purpose solely relies on the idea of Space exploration/radical Scientism, would have vested interest in trying to promote said idea to the masses as much as possible to justify their own [financial] existence.
I used to be a skeptic too but then I realized almost every ancient culture had nearly identical cosmologies regardless of how separated they were by geography or genetic lineage and culture; which also made me start looking at religion a bit more seriously.
I then tried to disprove the arguments put forth by Dubay and his community and almost always found myself coming up short when using mainstream Science.
However, he [Dubay] always uses common sense and observable data whereas most of his detractors often just use theory or statistics they keep pulling out of there ass like the ever changing elevation you'd need to be to actually see the Earth's curve, or camera footage from organizations with a vested interest in promoting the Space agenda like NASA that always use a fisheye lens field of view.
This is supposed to be his magnum opus of proof:
While it may not necessarily prove the idea Flat Earther's are trying to present, an experiment like this would be undeniable proof that the mainstream model of the globular Earth given by modern Scientism, our education systems, and organizations like NASA are all false.
No one their community ever tries to shove their ideas down people's throats as they only they actually advocate for is questioning the mainstream narrative and doing your own research to find the truth yourself.
From the flight patters of planes -
No offence man but don’t post long ass yt videos. I’m not gonna watch two 3 hour long videos just to get your point besides i’ve already seen a small portion of the first video.
Just answer one for me.
The average flight time for a flight from Japan to USA is a few hours. This is possible following the globe model of earth because it isn't necessary for the flight to go from east to west when it can just keep going east and circle back to USA.
How does the flat earth model explain that? Cuz if the earth is actually flat that flight would have to cross all of Asia and Europe to reach USA, which would take considerably longer.
Yeah attention spans on this site are pretty fucked tbh and I'll try to time stamp shit if I'm talking about a specific point as a lot his older videos on specific topics such, as flights for example, were deleted since this is like his 4th alt channel after being banned.
A flight from Japan to USA on a flat Earth wouldn't go East to west over Eurasia or like this
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Because the actual flat Earth model looks like this:
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A flight from Japan to USA would not have to cross Asia Europe etc. going East to West on a flat Earth, it'd also goacrossabove the Pacific from the East.
On a regular map it actually looks like a giant upward curve
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But as soon as you apply a flat Earth model to it you start understand why:
It's going in a straight line.![]()
The answer was also in the first video I showed you and I time stamped it too because he give other examples of how flights work:
It took a while to sift through the video just to find the time stamp, decent pictures, and a way to transform said pictures into jpegs so I'd appreciate it if you looked at the time stamped video for at least until he finishes his point on flights @33:10.
The reasoning for trying to cover it up by space organizations like NASA and the government -
The only people that would be "in on it" are government funded space agencies and theSo your basis for believing this is that whatever youtube censors is probably legit?
And why is it that YouTube is in on this conspiracy? And the Governments are in on this, pilots who fly planes are in on this, Scientists are in on this? I mean what do they get out of this?
If Earth is really flat why is that no one has ever found the edges of Earth? And if we could found them do you think if we jump out of the edge we will fall into space?![]()
new age priestsScientists that work for them.
What they gain from it is being able to push the Scientism agenda + extraterrestrial theory [[ISPOILER]for fake alien invasion to set up the NWO under the antichrist/dajjal[/ISPOILER]], and launder billions of tax payer money under the radar.
Objects like boats and even the sun disappearing into the horizon -
Pilots don't go high enough to see the "curve" of the Earth so according to them the horizon would look flat.
The Horizon appears to fade away and things appear to "dip" under it simply because our eyes can't see as far due to the law of perspective causing objects in the distance to appear as if they shrink, this is countered through the use of zoom power in telescopes, binoculars etc and objects thought of as "disappearing behind the curve" will come back into view.
There are no "edges" and the idea of falling off the "edge" is nonsense put out by the con op/trolls the "Flat Earth Society" which no one takes seriously.
All of these could've been answered in this video, and yes I know it's painful to sit through more than 5 minutes of a video since most people can't get through more than a paragraph worth of text here, but the answers you seek to just about all of your questions are here:
I might not agree with everything they say, but by no means would ever them stupid for having those opinions, regardless of how ridiculous they may see, because they see and test what they believe and often only don't believe in things that mostly use theory like with most modern "high level" Scientism.
There is probably such a great refractive effect on the sun because it's the most radiant object in the sky.
Also, refraction isn't the only the only reason he gives for the sun disappearing into the horizon he just argues that it also contributes to the effect, because the primary reason he argues for this is due to the law of perspective; the object, no matter how high or large, would appear to shrink into the horizon in your view.
An example of this is shown in the same time stamp of the video I gave you with the boat going into the horizon as it recedes from your view, and coming back into you view once you zoom in:
The religious evidence for it -
Also, there is no "space" in the traditional sense, only a physical dome like barrier separating the Heavens above from the Earth.
"And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day."
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My guy... you're not christian lmfao. You're actually under Stockholm syndrome rn. You're not Christian mate, your Quran literally says its a globe how can you deny it fam.
Literally Persian scholar Abi Rayhan Muhammad ibn Ahmad Al Biruni who lived during the beginning of the 11th century, was one of the first scholars to estimate the radius and circumference of the Earth.
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Your muzlim ancestors are turning in their graves manwelcome to looksmax, the only place where a kafir will tell a muslim about muslim achievements
Stopped reading here, a certain person who the prophet knew personally and was one of his close followers for which he literally prayed to Allah to give him the best knowledge of the Quran wrote tasfirs that supported flath earth. Stop pretending you know alot
@Ryan you know about this?
وَالأَرضَ مَدَدناها وَأَلقَينا فيها رَواسِيَ وَأَنبَتنا فيها مِن كُلِّ شَيءٍ مَوزونٍ
"And We spread out the earth, and cast in it firm mountains, and We grew in it every kind of balanced thing,"
وَجَعَلنا لَكُم فيها مَعايِشَ وَمَن لَستُم لَهُ بِرازِقينَ
"and made in it [various] means of livelihood for you and for those whom you do not provide for."
Surah AL-ḤIJR, ayat 19
وَالأَرضَ بَعدَ ذٰلِكَ دَحاها
"and after that He spread out the earth,"
أَخرَجَ مِنها ماءَها وَمَرعاها
"and brought forth from it its water and pastures,"
وَالجِبالَ أَرساها
"and set firm the mountains,"
مَتاعًا لَكُم وَلِأَنعامِكُم
"as a [place of] sustenance for youand your livestock."
Surah AL-NĀZIʿĀT, ayat 30
One is from a Pro-Islam source:
The other is from an Anti-Islam source:
Yet both say the same thing.
Its not fuck god it not believing in god . And china is atheist country and they arent liberal. And what would they gain to accept liberlism.
If god existed they would go to hell and you are claiming they belive in god so atleast in my mind a liberal society would be the least likely and a theocracy would be most likely if you were correct
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"ויענו כל העם ויאמרו דמו עלינו ועל בנינו"romans killed him and it wqs 2000 years ago jews today or jews 1000 yo have nothing to do with it
N E V E R F O R G E T
"ויענו כל העם ויאמרו דמו עלינו ועל בנינו׃"
"Εἰ ὁ κόσμος ὑμᾶς μισεῖ, γινώσκετε ὅτι ἐμὲ πρῶτον ὑμῶν μεμίσηκεν."
Still the romans that killed him and jews have nothing to do with and saying Mary is whore is an fact
He encourages us to forgive you just as he did, but may God curse just for saying that.You cant even forgive jews that did nothing
Atheism is cringe and bluepilled.
Yet, the globular model has more inconsistency:
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How can water curve as it's always level?
The only counters I find are claims like these-
Water contained in a flat medium [like an ice wall?] "curving" near the ends because of surface tension due to viscosity.
The red food dyed water being higher to the horizon doesn't even prove a curve of the horizon, only that it's positioned higher [which it is] and your view [or the camera's view] is positioned differently in each shot.

Water moves with waves and is still when the sea is calm

2.
How can the pattern of the stars in the sky always be the same night after night if we're moving both on our own axis and around the sun as our entire solar system also travels thousands of k/mph through space?



The reason the boat comes back into the view once you zoom in is *drum roll* because it didn’t went over the horizon.
Let’s make something clear, once a boat sails over the horizon, it cannot be seen anymore, no matter how powerful the optical zoom.
If a distant boat is not visible, then it is because of at least one of these reasons:
1- Our eyes have limited angular resolution and are unable to resolve the ship at that distance.
2- The atmospheric condition is limiting our visibility.
3- The curvature of the Earth obscures the ship.
Zooming improves angular resolution and can reveal the boat if it was not visible due to 1 but not 2 & 3. It is the same reason germs on our hands are not visible although they are right in front of our eyes. A microscope improves angular resolution and can reveal them.
Zooming in cannot overcome the limited visibility imposed by Earth’s atmosphere, and will never see through the curvature of the Earth.
Another thing is, if it were true that all ships that depart can remain persistently visible just by indefinitely increasing the optical zoom… then that would mean that we should be able to see the boat until it reaches the port, and we should even be able to see all the ports on Earth just by zooming in but its obviously not the case.
inb4 muh mirage...