Aromasin dose

[chadjohnathan]

If I started to experience the symptoms of low E2 on 12.5 asin ed, how would I go about lowering the dose until at an appropriate E2? Should I take a break before resuming AI use or just hop immediately into the new protocol?

 

[zentro]

lol me too, get ur blood work done then change the dose accordingly, I was 14.9 pg/ml I stopped for a week then did 6.25 ed instead of 12.5 ed.
The goal is to reach ur desired range then stay there, if u keep taking the same dose you’ll tank ur e2

 

[Giorgio]

12.5mg of asin ED is a very high amount
with asin, the dosing is not linear - even a small amount will produce significant suppression, and the increased dose does not produce increased suppression linearly

how would I go about lowering the dose until at an appropriate E2?

you should do it the other way - start with the smallest possible dose, which is dependant on how much you can divide the tablet
then do that ED

Should I take a break before resuming AI use or just hop immediately into the new protocol?

idk, you're kindof fucked at this point anyway, since each change in estrogen will result in mental sides and acne
so you have two choices: drop it at once, or titrate lower
i'd probably just drop it right away, so you can stabilize at the lower level asap

 

[chadjohnathan]

lol me too, get ur blood work done then change the dose accordingly, I was 14.9 pg/ml I stopped for a week then did 6.25 ed instead of 12.5 ed.
The goal is to reach ur desired range then stay there, if u keep taking the same dose you’ll tank ur e2

How is your new e2? How fast did symptoms resolve? I’m experiencing dry eyes lips skin lower libido etc

 

[chadjohnathan]

12.5mg of asin ED is a very high amount
with asin, the dosing is not linear - even a small amount will produce significant suppression, and the increased dose does not produce increased suppression linearly

you should do it the other way - start with the smallest possible dose, which is dependant on how much you can divide the tablet
then do that ED


idk, you're kindof fucked at this point anyway, since each change in estrogen will result in mental sides and acne
so you have two choices: drop it at once, or titrate lower
i'd probably just drop it right away, so you can stabilize at the lower level asap

High effort response thanks bhai. How long would I take nothing before titraying up from 0?

 

[Giorgio]

High effort response thanks bhai. How long would I take nothing before titraying up from 0?

don't do a period while you do nothing, that could cause your e2 to shoot up and you'd have a peak
with e2, stability is the key, you want as little fluctuation as possible

what's your cycle? your asin dose depends on how many mg of aromatizing compounds (like test) you take

 

[chadjohnathan]

don't do a period while you do nothing, that could cause your e2 to shoot up and you'd have a peak
with e2, stability is the key, you want as little fluctuation as possible

what's your cycle? your asin dose depends on how many mg of aromatizing compounds (like test) you take

75 test e ed (525/week). No other aromatizing compounds the only other anabolic is anavar

I was thinking stopping for 2/3 days and then starting with 6.25 eod

 

[Giorgio]

I was thinking stopping for 2/3 days and then starting with 6.25 eod

you could do that, it could be the most effective way to get to the new level, but it's also kindof hard to guess these things (like frontloading, this is like the opposite of it, and with e2 lol)
it's hard to guess since with asin it's not just abot the half life of the drug, since the actual effects depends on your bodys ability to regenerate the aromatose enzyme, which is just different for everyone

sure stop for 2/3 days, and then go with 6.25

what was your e2 on 525 mg/wk without any ai?

 

[chadjohnathan]

you could do that, it could be the most effective way to get to the new level, but it's also kindof hard to guess these things (like frontloading, this is like the opposite of it, and with e2 lol)
it's hard to guess since with asin it's not just abot the half life of the drug, since the actual effects depends on your bodys ability to regenerate the aromatose enzyme, which is just different for everyone

sure stop for 2/3 days, and then go with 6.25

what was your e2 on 525 mg/wk without any ai?

Didn’t get e2 tested until after starting an ai. Wasn’t willing to take the risk (growth plates open)

 

[Giorgio]

Didn’t get e2 tested until after starting an ai. Wasn’t willing to take the risk (growth plates open)

I've been on gear for about a year, and during this time, I had cycled through various stacks - TRT, moderate test, test with mast, nandrolone with estrogen, nandrolone solo, nandrolone with low test etc...

the thing that's been consistently a pain in the ass, has been e2 management - because you never fucking know what's the level going to be, since it's not a linear response either to AI, or even to the dosage of the aromatizing gear

shit is going to suck ass until you develop such knowledge of your body, and how it interacts with the compounds and ai, that you can eyeball it
and you develop this knowledge via just getting the e2 repeatedly measured like a fucking retard over and over again
you need to know your natty baseline, then you need to know the value at dose X of test *without AI*, so that when you change the T dose, you know to guess how it's gonna affect the e2
then you need to stay at that X dose of test, and add some X dose of ai (like the 6.25 in your case), this wil tell you how you react to AI - but keep in mind that different doses of AI produce different suppression, it's not linear like I said

then you factor in that shit like masteron has a weird effect on the estrogen receptor and acts as a "pseudo-AI", pseudo because it can relieve some high e2 symptoms, but your e2 value will not change in the blood work
then you may start playing with things like primo or eq - the best way to control estrogen, since you get a perfectly stable level (even with ED dosing of asin you may get some fluctuation) - and once you do this, you need to go throguh the process again, since you just don't know what dose of primo/eq will produce what suppression (and with the retarded EQ ester this will be fun)

each mistake in e2 control can result in weeks of shitty mood and acne

 

[chadjohnathan]

I've been on gear for about a year, and during this time, I had cycled through various stacks - TRT, moderate test, test with mast, nandrolone with estrogen, nandrolone solo, nandrolone with low test etc...

the thing that's been consistently a pain in the ass, has been e2 management - because you never fucking know what's the level going to be, since it's not a linear response either to AI, or even to the dosage of the aromatizing gear

shit is going to suck ass until you develop such knowledge of your body, and how it interacts with the compounds and ai, that you can eyeball it
and you develop this knowledge via just getting the e2 repeatedly measured like a fucking retard over and over again
you need to know your natty baseline, then you need to know the value at dose X of test *without AI*, so that when you change the T dose, you know to guess how it's gonna affect the e2
then you need to stay at that X dose of test, and add some X dose of ai (like the 6.25 in your case), this wil tell you how you react to AI - but keep in mind that different doses of AI produce different suppression, it's not linear like I said

then you factor in that shit like masteron has a weird effect on the progesterone receptor and acts as a "pseudo-AI", pseudo because it can relieve some high e2 symptoms, but your e2 value will not change in the blood work
then you may start playing with things like primo or eq - the best way to control estrogen, since you get a perfectly stable level (even with ED dosing of asin you may get some fluctuation) - and once you do this, you need to go throguh the process again, since you just don't know what dose of primo/eq will produce what suppression (and with the retarded EQ ester this will be fun)

each mistake in e2 control can result in weeks of shitty mood and acne

Thankfully I’m not taking another other anabolics that affect e2, so I have far fewer variables to manage. Thanks a ton for the advice bhai.

 

[Giorgio]

this is why masteron is such a great anabolic - you only need to find your TRT level of test (or what dose of test puts you at the exact level of e2 that you wish to be), and then you simply just scale the main anabolic (which is the masteron) depending on if you're going heavy or in a health phase or whatever, and you dont get any impact on the e2

 

[idnap]

I've been on gear for about a year, and during this time, I had cycled through various stacks - TRT, moderate test, test with mast, nandrolone with estrogen, nandrolone solo, nandrolone with low test etc...

the thing that's been consistently a pain in the ass, has been e2 management - because you never fucking know what's the level going to be, since it's not a linear response either to AI, or even to the dosage of the aromatizing gear

shit is going to suck ass until you develop such knowledge of your body, and how it interacts with the compounds and ai, that you can eyeball it
and you develop this knowledge via just getting the e2 repeatedly measured like a fucking retard over and over again
you need to know your natty baseline, then you need to know the value at dose X of test *without AI*, so that when you change the T dose, you know to guess how it's gonna affect the e2
then you need to stay at that X dose of test, and add some X dose of ai (like the 6.25 in your case), this wil tell you how you react to AI - but keep in mind that different doses of AI produce different suppression, it's not linear like I said

then you factor in that shit like masteron has a weird effect on the estrogen receptor and acts as a "pseudo-AI", pseudo because it can relieve some high e2 symptoms, but your e2 value will not change in the blood work
then you may start playing with things like primo or eq - the best way to control estrogen, since you get a perfectly stable level (even with ED dosing of asin you may get some fluctuation) - and once you do this, you need to go throguh the process again, since you just don't know what dose of primo/eq will produce what suppression (and with the retarded EQ ester this will be fun)

each mistake in e2 control can result in weeks of shitty mood and acne

this is why masteron is such a great anabolic - you only need to find your TRT level of test (or what dose of test puts you at the exact level of e2 that you wish to be), and then you simply just scale the main anabolic (which is the masteron) depending on if you're going heavy or in a health phase or whatever, and you dont get any impact on the e2

Mirin the info man it helps a lot.
I'm thinking of adding Masteron AI and Test E soon with my HGH.
What have you found works best for you?
I'm 17 and I'm trying to get the DHT benefits of Mast since DHT creams are unsourceable and expensive, and Test and AI for saving me and controlling its aromatization
My parents and their backgrounds dont have balding issues they all got healthy heads of hair at old ages

 

[Giorgio]

Masteron AI

what's that?

because masteron is not an AI - there is some anti-estrogenic action happening at the receptor level, youre gonna have to read up on that, but no amount of mast is going to reduce your serum level of e2
primo and eq are AIs

What have you found works best for you?

the only thing that works for me is nandrolone - it's the only truly hair and skin safe compound
with any other I just have a ton of acne and shedding

I'm 17 and I'm trying to get the DHT benefits of Mast

masteron is NOT DHT
it's a DHT derivative, but it's a completelly different molecule, with totally different properties
it's many times less androgenic, it behaves entirely differently when it comes to the interaction with the androgenic receptor
for example, DHT is not anabolic, it does not build muscle - but masteron does
so for your "teenage DHTmaxxing" masteron will not give what you want
why not use DHT directly?
I think proviron is pure DHT, but I could be wrong

DHT creams are unsourceable and expensive

and masteron is cheaper and more sourcable?
nobody even has masteron right now
shit goes for 50+ a bottle even in china

there are no DHT creams on indiamart?

My parents and their backgrounds dont have balding issues they all got healthy heads of hair at old ages

they also didn't blast anabolics did they
but no, it's a good sign, but don't rely on it too much - genetics are weird, and hairloss is complicated
the only real way to know is to do it yourself, and see if you start getting any androgenic sides

 

[idnap]

what's that?

I meant masteron, and ai

 

[idnap]

what's that?

because masteron is not an AI - there is some anti-estrogenic action happening at the receptor level, youre gonna have to read up on that, but no amount of mast is going to reduce your serum level of e2
primo and eq are AIs


the only thing that works for me is nandrolone - it's the only truly hair and skin safe compound
with any other I just have a ton of acne and shedding


masteron is NOT DHT
it's a DHT derivative, but it's a completelly different molecule, with totally different properties
it's many times less androgenic, it behaves entirely differently when it comes to the interaction with the androgenic receptor
for example, DHT is not anabolic, it does not build muscle - but masteron does
so for your "teenage DHTmaxxing" masteron will not give what you want
why not use DHT directly?
I think proviron is pure DHT, but I could be wrong


and masteron is cheaper and more sourcable?
nobody even has masteron right now
shit goes for 50+ a bottle even in china

there are no DHT creams on indiamart?


they also didn't blast anabolics did they
but no, it's a good sign, but don't rely on it too much - genetics are weird, and hairloss is complicated
the only real way to know is to do it yourself, and see if you start getting any androgenic sides

Got it, thanks

 

[idnap]

what's that?

because masteron is not an AI - there is some anti-estrogenic action happening at the receptor level, youre gonna have to read up on that, but no amount of mast is going to reduce your serum level of e2
primo and eq are AIs


the only thing that works for me is nandrolone - it's the only truly hair and skin safe compound
with any other I just have a ton of acne and shedding


masteron is NOT DHT
it's a DHT derivative, but it's a completelly different molecule, with totally different properties
it's many times less androgenic, it behaves entirely differently when it comes to the interaction with the androgenic receptor
for example, DHT is not anabolic, it does not build muscle - but masteron does
so for your "teenage DHTmaxxing" masteron will not give what you want
why not use DHT directly?
I think proviron is pure DHT, but I could be wrong


and masteron is cheaper and more sourcable?
nobody even has masteron right now
shit goes for 50+ a bottle even in china

there are no DHT creams on indiamart?


they also didn't blast anabolics did they
but no, it's a good sign, but don't rely on it too much - genetics are weird, and hairloss is complicated
the only real way to know is to do it yourself, and see if you start getting any androgenic sides

Nah no dht creams on indiamart. closest my agent could get was a Testosterone cream.
Have you gotten dht creams off there before?

 

[idnap]

what's that?

because masteron is not an AI - there is some anti-estrogenic action happening at the receptor level, youre gonna have to read up on that, but no amount of mast is going to reduce your serum level of e2
primo and eq are AIs


the only thing that works for me is nandrolone - it's the only truly hair and skin safe compound
with any other I just have a ton of acne and shedding


masteron is NOT DHT
it's a DHT derivative, but it's a completelly different molecule, with totally different properties
it's many times less androgenic, it behaves entirely differently when it comes to the interaction with the androgenic receptor
for example, DHT is not anabolic, it does not build muscle - but masteron does
so for your "teenage DHTmaxxing" masteron will not give what you want
why not use DHT directly?
I think proviron is pure DHT, but I could be wrong


and masteron is cheaper and more sourcable?
nobody even has masteron right now
shit goes for 50+ a bottle even in china

there are no DHT creams on indiamart?


they also didn't blast anabolics did they
but no, it's a good sign, but don't rely on it too much - genetics are weird, and hairloss is complicated
the only real way to know is to do it yourself, and see if you start getting any androgenic sides

Hey nigger why'd you jfl my reply I dont appreciate that

 

[Giorgio]

Nah no dht creams on indiamart. closest my agent could get was a Testosterone cream.
Have you gotten dht creams off there before?

no, why would I want a DHT cream jfl

I haven't gotten much off there before
the custom seizure rate is somewhere between 20 - 50%, most sellers do use some basic rudimentary stealth (like not marking the package as medicine)
I guess it really just depends on the specific country and it's customs
also they're almost always open to haggle