At what age does being a virgin constitute being a loser?

[Deleted member 3323]

Im 17, still havent kissed, or actually hugged a girl and no I dont count those half-assed hugs I give to family. Im not too worried about sex, its a serious thing for me, its the last thing on my to-do list. Some people say if you havent kissed a girl and youre approaching 18 youre a loser, and if you hav3nt had sex and youre 20 youre a "creepy weirdo." Fuck, all my peers have more experience than me, fuck this. I deserve a loyal stacy. Im intellegent, and fun to be around if you let me open up. Im hardworking and comitted. But of course these vile creatures known as "female" only judge a book by its cover. Fuck this.

 

[Chadelite]

If ur Virgin by 13 it is over

 

[UnderCovrN0rmie]

realistically, about 22, when most people finish college

 

[maxmendietta]

It's over if you aint getting sucked off at the kindergarden

 

[Deleted member 3323]

realistically, about 22, when most people finish college

Highschool is the new college. If you dont lose your virginity then its over.

 

[LordNorwood]

Gigachad - lost it in middle school
Chad - lost it in early high school
Upper tier normie - lost it in late high school
Normie - loses it in early college
Lower tier normie - loses it in late college

Bonus categories
legit damagedcel, actually unhealthy bruh - loses it in elementary school
mystical late bloomer Chad - ascends and starts banging in his late 20s to early 30s

 

[sub6manletnozygos]

its over if you are past 25 and still a virgin. by this time one has like been through hs, college and a couple years of wageslaving.
this does not apply to the religious

 

[LordNorwood]

its over if you are past 25 and still a virgin. by this time one has like been through hs, college and a couple years of wageslaving.
this does not apply to the religious

tfw religious

 

[turkproducer]

anything above 20 is absolutely over. by the time you’re 18, these girls have experienced 3-20+ dicks, so you’re really just going to have a damaged girl who uses you for sex, cucks you or one that you somehow manage to bed.

 

[LordNorwood]

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anything above 20 is absolutely over. by the time you’re 18, these girls have experienced 3-20+ dicks, so you’re really just going to have a damaged girl who uses you for sex or one that you somehow manage to bed.

imagine going for girls your age at 27+
all the 30 year olds I know who got married recently married women like 6 years younger than them

 

[LordGodcat]

Gigachad - lost it in middle school
Chad - lost it in early high school
Upper tier normie - lost it in late high school
Normie - loses it in early college
Lower tier normie - loses it in late college

Bonus categories
legit damagedcel, actually unhealthy bruh - loses it in elementary school
mystical late bloomer Chad - ascends and starts banging in his late 20s to early 30s

That's gonna be me, mark my words

 

[LordNorwood]

That's gonna be me, mark my words

which 1

 

[turkproducer]

imagine going for girls your age at 27+
all the 30 year olds I know who got married recently married women like 6 years younger than them

Yeah personally I think it’s a bit weird but if it’s legal it’s legal... I’ve only ever spoke to 16-18 year olds but sometimes 15 year old actual JBs message me and I ignore it because they’re illegal.

 

[LookistWorld]

LordNorwood is right. Most gigachads at my school were already bragging about their sexual experiences in middle school. Then your average Chad probably came into his own and lost it freshman year. For normies it usually depends. Luck can influence their chances greatly

 

[LordGodcat]

which 1

Click to expand, late bloomer chad

 

[diggbicc]

mystical late bloomer Chad - ascends and starts banging in his late 20s to early 30s

this entire site tbh

 

[turkproducer]

LordNorwood is right. Most gigachads at my school were already bragging about their sexual experiences in middle school. Then your average Chad probably came into his own and lost it freshman year. For normies it usually depends. Luck can influence their chances greatly

what would you say early 17 is, i think i could have lost it before this but i was beta af with girls..

 

[LordNorwood]

Yeah personally I think it’s a bit weird but if it’s legal it’s legal... I’ve only ever spoke to 16-18 year olds but sometimes 15 year old actual JBs message me and I ignore it because they’re illegal.

its the natural way of things, a man's greatest measure of attractiveness is how established he is in the world. Even for Chads, this takes some time to develop. Meanwhile a woman's attractiveness is beauty and youth. Men build their attractive qualities, women are given them for free and lose them (barring very low or high PSLs)
no coincidence women's peak attractiveness is like 18-22 and men's is like early 30s as reinforced by dating app studies

what would you say early 17 is, i think i could have lost it before this but i was beta af with girls..

normie

 

[LookistWorld]

what would you say early 17 is, i think i could have lost it before this but i was beta af with girls..

If you lose it at 17/18 these days I'd say you're definitely in the normie to upper normie tier. Definitely not a chadlite but not low tier either. Being neurodivergent or extremely beta in high school can fuck your chances, regardless of luck

 

[turkproducer]

its the natural way of things, a man's greatest measure of attractiveness is how established he is in the world. Even for Chads, this takes some time to develop. Meanwhile a woman's attractiveness is beauty and youth. Men build their attractive qualities, women are given them for free and lose them (barring very low or high PSLs)
no coincidence women's peak attractiveness is like 18-22 and men's is like early 30s as reinforced by dating app studies

normie

yeah i’m still not even softmaxxed tbh jfl. once i’m 18/19 i’m going to get a genio and run roids because inshallah i’ll be at a really good university, i’ll also permarun 1-1.5 inch lifts and hopefully i’ll be lean by then.

I can’t wait to start this new chapter of my life ngl

 

[LordNorwood]

If you lose it at 17/18 these days I'd say you're definitely in the normie to upper normie tier. Definitely not a chadlite but not low tier either. Being neurodivergent or extremely beta in high school can fuck your chances, regardless of luck

tbh these days
top 2% of males - Gigachad
top 5% - Chad
top 15% - upper tier normie
top 30% - normie
top 50% - lower tier normie
bottom 50% - subhuman

 

[Blackout.xl]

tbh these days
top 2% of males - Gigachad
top 5% - Chad
top 15% - upper tier normie
top 30% - normie
top 50% - lower tier normie
bottom 50% - subhuman

You’re top 0.5%

 

[LordNorwood]

You’re top 0.5%

Thanks, king. So are you brother.

 

[LookistWorld]

tbh these days
top 2% of males - Gigachad
top 5% - Chad
top 15% - upper tier normie
top 30% - normie
top 50% - lower tier normie
bottom 50% - subhuman

I agree but I'd put chadlite in the very top of upper tier normies. I feel like they get a little more leeway when it comes to how they act but not quite as much as the Chads

 

[turkproducer]

If you lose it at 17/18 these days I'd say you're definitely in the normie to upper normie tier. Definitely not a chadlite but not low tier either. Being neurodivergent or extremely beta in high school can fuck your chances, regardless of luck

makes sense because i am generally rated as high tier normie.

and yeah lemme tell u the story lol. This rich girl saw me on my friends instagram and thought I was attractive, she asked for my snapchat and said I was sexy on my friends phone lol. she proceeded to snapchat me for 3 whole weeks, messaging me when i ignored her, saying she’ll suck my dick all this lol.

I then have her round finally, she travels an hour to my house, and it all crumbles jfl. I just didn’t know how to create attraction, it was so awkward she didn’t even hug me before leaving.

 

[LordNorwood]

I agree but I'd put chadlite in the very top of upper tier normies. I feel like they get a little more leeway when it comes to how they act but not quite as much as the Chads

Same I didn't include some gradients but I thought about Chadlite
Chadlite = top 10%
true genetic trash = bottom 10%

 

[LookistWorld]

makes sense because i am generally rated as high tier normie.

and yeah lemme tell u the story lol. This rich girl saw me on my friends instagram and thought I was attractive, she asked for my snapchat and said I was sexy on my friends phone lol. she proceeded to snapchat me for 3 whole weeks, messaging me when i ignored her, saying she’ll suck my dick all this lol.

I then have her round finally, she travels an hour to my house, and it all crumbles jfl. I just didn’t know how to create attraction, it was so awkward she didn’t even hug me before leaving.

Sad story bro. At least you got some validation for your looks though. People like you should definitely work on becoming NT, or at least faking it. Try to make note of all your beta behaviors and make a conscious effort to stop them.

 

[turkproducer]

Sad story bro. At least you got some validation for your looks though. People like you should definitely work on becoming NT, or at least faking it. Try to make note of all your beta behaviors and make a conscious effort to stop them.

Oh yeah I fixed it thanks bro but I was really surprised she liked my face. She was a bit of a promiscuous girl anyway, she was 18 and only like 2 inches shorter than me (i was more manlet then but i still am) she has 6 precious sexual partners so i’m not sure why she liked me.

 

[LookistWorld]

Oh yeah I fixed it thanks bro but I was really surprised she liked my face. She was a bit of a promiscuous girl anyway, she was 18 and only like 2 inches shorter than me (i was more manlet then but i still am) she has 6 precious sexual partners so i’m not sure why she liked me.

How tall are you? Lifts paired with the right shoes will help a lot if you're in a good range. And genio is a great surgery. I've gotta get one too

 

[turkproducer]

How tall are you? Lifts paired with the right shoes will help a lot if you're in a good range. And genio is a great surgery. I've gotta get one too

5’9 morning so 5’8.5 functionally so defo manlet for UK lol. I’m still 17 so hopefully I can grow more, but i doubt it..

and yeah i have jordan’s + soles from other shoes which make me like 5’10 ish in them and it helps.

genio is something i need a lot ngl.

 

[Deleted member 4044]

I lost it at 19 (in 2008)

That was mid tier normie at best. Not bad but not great.

16-18 was pretty normal back then.

 

[LookistWorld]

5’9 morning so 5’8.5 functionally so defo manlet for UK lol. I’m still 17 so hopefully I can grow more, but i doubt it..

and yeah i have jordan’s + soles from other shoes which make me like 5’10 ish in them and it helps.

genio is something i need a lot ngl.

Yea you're in the perfect range for lifts tbh. Just don't go too crazy or they'll throw your proportions off.

 

[turkproducer]

Yea you're in the perfect range for lifts tbh. Just don't go too crazy or they'll throw your proportions off.

my body looks shorter than it is because i have a stocky build, like my frame is good but i also am overweight and my body is just wide. it’s one thing putting me off.

also in my area people would notice easily, and i don’t want to run the risk of getting found out. i think if i go to uni next year or get a job i’ll perma run 1-1.5 inch lifts

 

[diggbicc]

my body looks shorter than it is because i have a stocky build, like my frame is good but i also am overweight and my body is just wide. it’s one thing putting me off.

also in my area people would notice easily, and i don’t want to run the risk of getting found out. i think if i go to uni next year or get a job i’ll perma run 1-1.5 inch lifts

You can do it kardes

 

[LookistWorld]

my body looks shorter than it is because i have a stocky build, like my frame is good but i also am overweight and my body is just wide. it’s one thing putting me off.

also in my area people would notice easily, and i don’t want to run the risk of getting found out. i think if i go to uni next year or get a job i’ll perma run 1-1.5 inch lifts

Always remember when dealing with the NT: it has to be functional. If you're wearing lifts, you were told to by the doctor to help with your joints. Your average person won't see how blatantly stupid this argument is, especially when you add in the argument from authority (your doctor). This only applies if someone notices, obviously

 

[turkproducer]

Always remember when dealing with the NT: it has to be functional. If you're wearing lifts, you were told to by the doctor to help with your joints. Your average person won't see how blatantly stupid this argument is, especially when you add in the argument from authority (your doctor). This only applies if someone notices, obviously

Yeah ngl normies are retarded af. I wonder how my life will change at uni, i hopefully will slay or smth because I doubt there will be any sort of girls that are worth LTRing even though I prefer ltr..

 

[LookistWorld]

Yeah ngl normies are retarded af. I wonder how my life will change at uni, i hopefully will slay or smth because I doubt there will be any sort of girls that are worth LTRing even though I prefer ltr..

I think most men, aside from the extremely narcissistic, prefer LTR. It's a shame, really, buy yes you probably won't find too many worth it in uni.

 

[turkproducer]

I think most men, aside from the extremely narcissistic, prefer LTR. It's a shame, really, buy yes you probably won't find too many worth it in uni.

Yeah I plan to go to a good one in the UK, so generally, smart or rich kids go here, and I know exactly how they’re like. Generally people who go to top unis in UK do drugs, and then on the weekends or holidays go to some art gallery while staying in their villa in france jfl.

i doubt i’ll find any sort of ltr girl. it’s a shame.

i wonder if i will be too ethnic for girls there, because i come from a multicultural area, and i have light skin but prettt dark features. most people here consider me white passing but i feel like rich white girls will see me and be like “who is this albanian, looks like a drug trafficker lol”

 

[LookistWorld]

Yeah I plan to go to a good one in the UK, so generally, smart or rich kids go here, and I know exactly how they’re like. Generally people who go to top unis in UK do drugs, and then on the weekends or holidays go to some art gallery while staying in their villa in france jfl.

i doubt i’ll find any sort of ltr girl. it’s a shame.

i wonder if i will be too ethnic for girls there, because i come from a multicultural area, and i have light skin but prettt dark features. most people here consider me white passing but i feel like rich white girls will see me and be like “who is this albanian, looks like a drug trafficker lol”

From what you've said in this thread I think you'll be fine. You're average height with lifts and have a good face. I knew a few ethnic guys who managed to slay in uni, though I'm not sure how much. Your number one priority should be becoming as NT as possible and not acting beta at all.

 

[Deleted member 4675]

My Manlet recessed black friend lost it by thugmaxing. Fuck this shit (at 13)

 

[sub6manletnozygos]

From what you've said in this thread I think you'll be fine. You're average height with lifts and have a good face. I knew a few ethnic guys who managed to slay in uni, though I'm not sure how much. Your number one priority should be becoming as NT as possible and not acting beta at all.

NTmaxxing is the most underrated theory on psl. anyone sub8 needs to have good social skills to live a fulfilling life

 

[Deleted member 3962]

i had multiple chances to lose it from 8th grade to junior year but i only started fucking recently jfl

my neuro transmitters are improving hella tho. Mirin?

 

[Deleted member 209]

15

 

[IWantToMax]

I'm, and I lost hugless and handholdless a couple months back.

Most of my friends are kissless too, so I'd guess around 20.

 

[hebbewem]

If you havent kissed by 16 you are seen as a loser

 

[Deleted member 4209]

realistically i think 18 is where it starts to get weird/people wonder if there is something wrong with u

at 22 i am well into "freak" territory.

 

[Over]

This thread spiked my cortisol FUUUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKK

 

[Chadelite]

Gigachad - lost it in middle school
Chad - lost it in early high school
Upper tier normie - lost it in late high school
Normie - loses it in early college
Lower tier normie - loses it in late college

Bonus categories
legit damagedcel, actually unhealthy bruh - loses it in elementary school
mystical late bloomer Chad - ascends and starts banging in his late 20s to early 30s

Terachad lost his virginity in the womb

 

[Mewcel]

If you weren't deflowered by a 30-45 year old woman when you were 10-15, it's over for you

 

[Deleted member 1140]

Gigachad - lost it in middle school
Chad - lost it in early high school
Upper tier normie - lost it in late high school
Normie - loses it in early college
Lower tier normie - loses it in late college

Bonus categories
legit damagedcel, actually unhealthy bruh - loses it in elementary school
mystical late bloomer Chad - ascends and starts banging in his late 20s to early 30s

i couldve lost it with 10 years of age. had some crazy „gf“ that took her clothes off in front of me and wanted me to take them off too. i ran.

shes fucking hot now