🙏 ATHEISTIC ARGUMENTS DEBUNKED 🙏

[noodlelover]

The double-slit experiment clearly shows that observation changes particle behavior, suggesting a direct link between consciousness and reality. MWI doesn’t explain why observation correlates with wavefunction collapse, it just sidesteps the question.

Observers have nothing to do with it. The wave function collapses when the light particle hits ANYTHING. It has nothing to do with consciousness or "observers".

I don't fault you for having the "observer effect" interpretation as that's the interpretation most popularly spread because people want to believe in these things. I believed it as well for many years before I stumbled upon the correct interpretation of the studies. Sadly, everything you believed, I once believed before I had time to uncover what was real.

If you can fully get you're head around the concept of memes (Mind viruses) that evolve to maximize their spread, you might get a better understanding of various religions, supernatural beliefs, and even why the magical fun sounding interpterion of the double slit experiment is much more popular than the true interpterion, that the wave function collapses when it hits anything.

Moreover, phenomena like the placebo effect,

This is because there's intelligence emergent from the collective of your cells and your cells can have goals and cooperate. Michael Levin has done a lot of work on this, showing that with the right signals an animals cells in it's back can be triggered to grow a working eye for example, or regrow limbs, etc.

In a placebo the brain is the system sending the electrical signals for the rest of the cells in the body to do something, but it's not magic.

OBEs, and NDEs, Past live memories

These are a combination of different things:

1. Outright Frauds. Some of these are frauds for attention.
2. Most of these experiences are guided imagination, where your subconscious fills in the gaps with what it knows about the past, your location, and other locations.

People lie, hallucinate, have false memories, and mis-interpret their sensory data based on their pre-existing beliefs. This has been the cause of religion, superstition, and "super" natural beliefs. Which is why we have scientific processes to demine what's really going on. Such as the AWARE studies on NDEs.

highlight that consciousness isn’t just a property of matter, it can influence and interact with the physical world in ways not yet fully understood. Ignoring these links while dismissing consciousness-based models as "woo-woo" is willful ignorance

Nobody claimed anything to be magical, you claimed consciousness is property of matter, If something is property of matter for example "Elasticity" is indeed property of matter it can observed, demonstrated and measured for it be a scientific fact, Consciousness on the other hand can only be observed affecting the reality but can't be explained, demonstrated or measured, consciousness involves subjective experiences, which is called "qualia" which cannot be measured or fully explained by the interaction of particles or atoms. These subjective experiences point to something more than just the physical brain, Which all points to the fact that consciousness isn't physical nor magical

Consciousness is an illusion of matter. We are the matter, and we ask ourselves what is this "I am experience" when it's just the matter and energy "Being" or "existing".

All religions possess both an esoteric and an exoteric dimension. The exoteric meaning, what’s openly taught to the masses serves to maintain societal order and provide moral guidance. In contrast, the esoteric meaning contains deeper, encoded knowledge conveyed through parables, stories, and metaphors. These layers of meaning allow profound spiritual truths, such as the concept of interconnected consciousness, to be accessible across different levels of understanding, ensuring even complex ideas can resonate with people of all ages and capacities.

Take John 14:20 as an example: "When I am raised to life again, you will know that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you." At face value, this speaks of a relationship between Jesus, God, and humanity. However, when examined beyond its literal interpretation, it reveals the interconnectedness of all existence. It suggests a singular, unified consciousness what some may call the divine that permeates and connects every individual, transcending physical separations and distinctions. The fact that all religions esoterically point to this one idea of inter connected consciousness cannot be dismissed as coincidental

I agree with you that all consciousness is unified in a way. Consciousness is mater and energy existing, and all matter and energy is connected by gravitational pulls and sometimes other forces. Some clusters of matter are much more connected than others, so we refer to those as intelligent agents when they have learning.

No we didn't, That’s a false equivalency. Artificial intelligence doesn’t even possess consciousness it operates purely on algorithms

Just like the rest of reality.

and large language models (LLMs) that can be observed, measured, demonstrated, and predicted with precision.

I'm coining a new term "Consciousness of the Gaps". The "God of the Gaps" fallacy is the logical fallacy that god is whatever we don't yet fully understand about reality. So as science figure more and more things out, the imaginary god is shoved in to explain a smaller and smaller gap in what science doesn't yet understand.

The "Consciousness of the Gaps" fallacy is the same but for intelligence being explained by consciousness.

The fact that this profound knowledge of interconnected consciousness and the unity of all existence has been consistently echoed across various cultures and traditions, dating back to ancient Egypt, is a strong indicator of its significance.

I've read the Hermetica. It's an obvious conclusion that everything is connected, we see causality and physical forces connecting entities and things everywhere.

This universal wisdom—expressed through symbols, parables, and esoteric teachings suggests that humanity has always had access to a deeper understanding of reality. Yet, those in positions of power have historically invested immense resources, including billions of dollars, into reshaping this knowledge into the concept of an external, separate God. This deliberate shift is not coincidental but rather a calculated effort to distance individuals from the realization of their own divine nature and interconnectedness.

By projecting divinity outward, into an unattainable realm, these power structures create dependence and control, perpetuating systems of hierarchy and separation. Such efforts highlight a clear distinction: the suppression of internal, self-realized divinity aligns with agendas of control, while the preservation and rediscovery of esoteric truths align with liberation and enlightenment. The persistence of these teachings, despite attempts to obscure them, is itself a testament to their importance and resilience. The lengths to which this knowledge has been suppressed only reinforce its profound truth and transformative potential for humanity

The focus on carbon is directly relevant to the discussion about the basis of organic life. Carbon is the backbone of organic molecules, forming the complex structures that define living systems. The connection to 666 in Revelation 13:18 is symbolic, not literal chemistry, but it’s worth noting that carbon atoms have six protons, six neutrons, and six electrons whether you view this as coincidence or metaphor is up to interpretation and wouldn't matter.

Consciousness is not simply an emergent property of organic molecules like carbon, but carbon-based organic systems provide the framework for life as we understand it.

Carbon is the most abundant non-gas molecule in the measurable universe. Above that, we have Hydrogen, Helium, and Oxygen which are gasses.

So by pure probability, it makes sense that most life in the universe would evolve from carbon and other materials. Cells are primarily made of Carbon, Hydrogen, Oxygen, Nitrogen, and Phosphorus.

This doesn't mean we can't build life without carbon, or that it didn't evolve somewhere in the universe without carbon.

A carbon nanotube or plastic bottle containing carbon is fundamentally different from the dynamic, interconnected biochemical processes occurring in living organisms. These processes allow for the complexity of consciousness

What matter is doing effects the "experience" of "consciousness". I put experience in quotes, because it's a word to describe matter doing what it's doing, but we have the illusion that we are some how special and different from say a hurricane. A hurricane is doing something different than our brains and bodies, but we have no valid reason to believe it is less conscious.

not because carbon is conscious on its own, but because it is essential in creating the molecular environment for life to arise. Consciousness transcends being just another 'organic makeup'; it is the phenomenon that emerges uniquely from the interplay of these carbon-based structures.

Nothing "magically" happens in the universe, Nobody claimed anything to be magical, everything is a byproduct of an unfolding event in an eternal present

Right, there's no intelligence or decisions being made without a clockwork mechanism.

 

[IOS]

i read it

hes banned ig now