Atheists whats your explanation

[Mansur]

This isnt a pro religion question but just a theoretical one

What do you think about people, who somehow manage to have matching personalities.

An attraction to each other

Beeing emotionally available at the same time

So happen to be meeting through whatever reason, if its on the train. On a dating app, through friends

If we could take things to the extreme, an actual match of all of these factors could be chances in the trillions of that happening

And somehow managing to date after

Thats happening to as good as every healthy couple out there

It is indeed a crazy phenomenon if you really think about it

 

[Mansur]

These people so happen to have noticed each other, crossing paths. Let alone skipping the awkward stage given the circumstances

Coincidence cant be applied to this I believe as this happens to billions of people

 

[trench]

did god make you an incel with a miserable life

 

[Azi.org]

Coincidence is most likely case here for example if a man falls in love with a women in a specific sequence it is not destiny replace that women and that man would find love in another way and through connection they fall in love you can scientifically explain why people fall in love however if you want to pin point precise points id wiuld be better to look in nature physics and so on as those are universal i am a theists myself

 

[subhumanandrew]

This isnt a pro religion question but just a theoretical one

What do you think about people, who somehow manage to have matching personalities.

An attraction to each other

Beeing emotionally available at the same time

So happen to be meeting through whatever reason, if its on the train. On a dating app, through friends

If we could take things to the extreme, an actual match of all of these factors could be chances in the trillions of that happening

And somehow managing to date after

Thats happening to as good as every healthy couple out there

It is indeed a crazy phenomenon if you really think about it

Eh brother, it is simple: it is not math, it is God. You think train or dating app is random? No way. God make the match, God fix the timing, God put the love in the heart.
Trillions of chances? Maybe for science guy, but for God this is super easy. Every couple is just God making His magic work!

 

[sha]

Eh brother, it is simple: it is not math, it is God. You think train or dating app is random? No way. God make the match, God fix the timing, God put the love in the heart.
Trillions of chances? Maybe for science guy, but for God this is super easy. Every couple is just God making His magic work!

delusional

 

[subhumanandrew]

delusional

Why bro?

 

[Mansur]

Coincidence is most likely case here for example if a man falls in love with a women in a specific sequence it is not destiny replace that women and that man would find love in another way and through connection they fall in love you can scientifically explain why people fall in love however if you want to pin point precise points id wiuld be better to look in nature physics and so on as those are universal i am a theists myself

if that woman would be differently good looking or had a different personality, it simply wouldnt have turned out that way, so that point is invalid

and a coincidence if we are beeing realistic cant be the case as mentioned. As billions of these bonds happen and the chances can be unlimitedly rare

 

[Mansur]

Eh brother, it is simple: it is not math, it is God. You think train or dating app is random? No way. God make the match, God fix the timing, God put the love in the heart.
Trillions of chances? Maybe for science guy, but for God this is super easy. Every couple is just God making His magic work!

Thats what I believe in, thats why Im interested in the stance of Atheists, not to debate religion but their explanation to this phenomenon

 

[Azi.org]

if that woman would be differently good looking or had a different personality, it simply wouldnt have turned out that way, so that point is invalid

and a coincidence if we are beeing realistic cant be the case as mentioned. As billions of these bonds happen and the chances can be unlimitedly rare

The chances of it being specificaly them two as pairs is yes unlimitedly rare however the chance that A man ends up finding love is like 70% depending on factors and the chances he got with that specific women acounting for timing breeding country and all that is astronomicaly low however he still has 70% of finding love and each single women he could have dated have all extremly low probabilty

 

[Azi.org]

Why bro?

Chances dont prove god i am theists and i am saying this

 

[subhumanandrew]

Chances dont prove god i am theists and i am saying this

I was and then God change my life, at leat is happier now

 

[Mansur]

The chances of it being specificaly them two as pairs is yes unlimitedly rare however the chance that A man ends up finding love is like 70% depending on factors and the chances he got with that specific women acounting for timing breeding country and all that is astronomicaly low however he still has 70% of finding love and each single women he could have dated have all extremly low probabilty

The 70% just addresses the chances of a man finding love.

But the topic is actually the reasoning for bonds happening often despite the low chances

And whats the explanation is behind that

 

[Azi.org]

The 70% just addresses the chances of a man finding love.

But the topic is actually the reasoning for bonds happening often despite the low chances

And whats the explanation behind that

What do you exactly mean bonds specifically is not rare love itself starts by first lust driven by androgen(testosterone/estrogen) then attraction which releases dopamine/adrenaline and attachment(oxytocin) thats the scientific explanation on how love works and it happens often as sex is the primary driver of joy it is made that sex is the one of the greatest feelings someone can feel and euphoric so the fact people fall in love isnt abnormal again i dont understand what you mean by bonds being rare?

 

[Mansur]

What do you exactly mean bonds specifically is not rare love itself starts by first lust driven by androgen(testosterone/estrogen) then attraction which releases dopamine/adrenaline and attachment(oxytocin) thats the scientific explanation on how love works and it happens often as sex is the primary driver of joy it is made that sex is the one of the greatest feelings someone can feel and euphoric so the fact people fall in love isnt abnormal again i dont understand what you mean by bonds being rare?

No dude youre making this a little complicated, simply

Why do bonds so insanely matching exist so often, despite the factual chances of meeting in all of these criterias is super low

 

[Azi.org]

The 70% just addresses the chances of a man finding love.

But the topic is actually the reasoning for bonds happening often despite the low chances

And whats the explanation is behind that

If you mean the chances of both people loving eachother well that isnt a coincednce as usually one side takes action it could be eye contact talking being close maybe seeing each other alot in a hallway a bond doesnt just appear out of nowhere a man could love the shit out of a girl in his town but only look at pics of her and look at her fram far away she probably wouldnt love him back but if he took action then a bond could be created

 

[Mansur]

If you mean the chances of both people loving eachother well that isnt a coincednce as usually one side takes action it could be eye contact talking being close maybe seeing each other alot in a hallway a bond doesnt just appear out of nowhere a man could love the shit out of a girl in his town but only look at pics of her and look at her fram far away she probably wouldnt love him back but if he took action then a bond could be created

True that failed love happens even more often, but that doesnt really address the question

I dont think there really is an explanation for that, besides stopping thinking without any subjectivity

 

[Azi.org]

True that failed love happens even more often, but that doesnt really address the question

I dont think there really is an explanation for that, besides stopping thinking without any subjectivity

In my theory its mostly IOIs from both sides that appear lets say hypothetically your in a class you see a girl who you find attratcive there are also alot of other girls who you find attractive in your class but you notice that she looks at you or signs that she may like you then in some cases you get a dopamine hit thinking about it thats were love starts well thats my theory

 

[isis_Bleach]

thats just nature the species has to reproduce and plus if god is real/loves us then explain Jeremy Meeks

 

[Mansur]

thats just nature the species has to reproduce and plus if god is real/loves us then explain Jeremy Meeks

I mean dude what do I have to say, go rape a dog and then question God why he would let that happen

As stupid as it sounds, thats your point

 

[isis_Bleach]

I mean dude what do I have to say, go rape a dog and then question God why he would let that happen

As stupid as it sounds, thats your point

thats not equivalent because somebody chose to do that whereas meeks was blessed by god blessed before he was born even

 

[Mansur]

thats not equivalent because somebody chose to do that whereas meeks was blessed by god blessed before he was born

God allowing something doesn’t mean God caused it. Humans can make horrible choices, and they’re responsible for those choices. And Jeremy Meeks being born attractive and getting advantages from it is the same idea: people can have different starting points, but that doesn’t mean every outcome is God’s fault or that your choices don’t matter.

 

[isis_Bleach]

God allowing something doesn’t mean God caused it. Humans can make horrible choices, and they’re responsible for those choices. And Jeremy Meeks being born attractive and getting advantages from it is the same idea: people can have different starting points, but that doesn’t mean every outcome is God’s fault or that your choices don’t matter.

god loves jeremy meeks alot more than he loves me so why would i worship something thats gonna play favorites like that i wouldnt ever worship god

 

[Mansur]

god loves jeremy meeks alot more than he loves me so why would i worship something thats gonna play favorites like that i wouldnt ever worship god

That doesnt really follow. People can have completely different circumstances without one being more loved than another. If God exists, the question would be whether He judges people fairly for what they do with their circumstances, not whether everyone gets the same advantages.

Which is what the Afterlife is about

 

[isis_Bleach]

That doesnt really follow. People can have completely different circumstances without one being more loved than another. If God exists, the question would be whether He judges people fairly for what they do with their circumstances, not whether everyone gets the same advantages.

Which is what the Afterlife is about

its like if you have 2 kids and you give one all your money and attention and the other one you give to foster care you cant go and say you love them both the same thats cope same thing w god so fuck that nigger its not even real either 0 evidence outside of thought experiments that dont prove anything real about god’s qualities or the afterlife or any dogma

 

[miserycel]

i don’t really care about atheism or religion or whatever

i just want happiness

and i don’t think faith can give me that

 

[Mansur]

its like if you have 2 kids and you give one all your money and attention and the other one you give to foster care you cant go and say you love them both the same thats cope same thing w god so fuck that nigger its not even real either 0 evidence outside of thought experiments that dont prove anything real about god’s qualities or the afterlife or any dogma

Nigga what do you not understand. Irl you wont judge your children fairly as if you grow up you wont reward each one

God gives people certain circumstances, and he looks at how we work with it

If despite the humiliation and the disadvantages wed go through in life but still keeping faith in him, he will reward us in the afterlife

If Chad disobeyed him or even followed him would either get way less rewarding. As he didnt get through the struggles or be sent to hellfire

And in the end, it doesnt matter if you believe God exists or not

Either you believe this was a lottery ticket, or smth that would actually make sense

 

[Mansur]

i don’t really care about atheism or religion or whatever

i just want happiness

and i don’t think faith can give me that

Id give it a shot, you have nothing left to lose

So would you take a 0% win rate or a potentially higher chance of success

 

[miserycel]

Id give it a shot, you have nothing left to lose

So would you take a 0% win rate or a potentially higher chance of success

i would like to, i was born muslim

i just dont have it in me to truly believe, for the longest i can remember i always felt like i was just pretending until i eventually decided to just leave altogether

 

[isis_Bleach]

Nigga what do you not understand. Irl you wont judge your children fairly as if you grow up you wont reward each one

God gives people certain circumstances, and he looks at how we work with it

If despite the humiliation and the disadvantages wed go through in life but still keeping faith in him, he will reward us in the afterlife

If Chad disobeyed him or even followed him would either get way less rewarding. As he didnt get through the struggles or be sent to hellfire

And in the end, it doesnt matter if you believe God exists or not

Either you believe this was a lottery ticket, or smth that would actually make sense

come on you cant tell me you actually believe in karma when all the most successful people are the most sinister

its way easier to follow god’s (manmade) rules when u are a rich chad. its life on easy mode. i mean if they even are god’s rules and morals, u cant prove one god is real over another or that any religion even knows about the real god?

 

[Mansur]

i would like to, i was born muslim

i just dont have it in me to truly believe, for the longest i can remember i always felt like i was just pretending until i eventually decided to just leave altogether

Majority of people find peace in themselves when converting to Islam

Its a very common phenomenon

Personally it has helped me out as well

Cant speak for everyone, but if you have nowhere else to go. That would def be a good suggestion

 

[Mansur]

come on you cant tell me you actually believe in karma when all the most successful people are the most sinister

its way easier to follow god’s (manmade) rules when u are a rich chad. its life on easy mode. i mean if they even are god’s rules and morals, u cant prove one god is real over another or that any religion even knows about the real god?

Keyword: Afterlife

If you are somewhat open minded and dont refuse to believe anything that requires logical thinking then its very possible to convince you in Gods existence

 

[miserycel]

Majority of people find peace in themselves when converting to Islam

Its a very common phenomenon

Personally it has helped me out as well

Cant speak for everyone, but if you have nowhere else to go. That would def be a good suggestion

if i was ever to be religious, id probably return to it

i already know a lot about it and how to properly practice it

but yeah, ive always lacked faith. i dont see a point in praying 5 times a day to a god i dont really believe in

 

[isis_Bleach]

Keyword: Afterlife

If you are somewhat open minded and dont refuse to believe anything that requires logical thinking then its very possible to convince you in Gods existence

it diesnt matter if god is real when ur using arguments like “Everything has to have a creator” because even if that is true the creator wouldnt have to be jesus or anything in specific. the afterlife isn’t real either since whether something is right or wrong is just subjective since there are cultures that eat humans and rape kids and its seen as normal.

 

[Mansur]

if i was ever to be religious, id probably return to it

i already know a lot about it and how to properly practice it

but yeah, ive always lacked faith. i dont see a point in praying 5 times a day to a god i dont really believe in

Look into it, I mean 2b people believing it dont do it out of nowhere

And the 5 times a day is a joke really, a prayer lasts 5min max

Thats what stresses a lot of people out from my understanding

 

[Azi.org]

its like if you have 2 kids and you give one all your money and attention and the other one you give to foster care you cant go and say you love them both the same thats cope same thing w god so fuck that nigger its not even real either 0 evidence outside of thought experiments that dont prove anything real about god’s qualities or the afterlife or any dogma

Nigga your accounting it as this life is everything religion states clearly this life is just a test whats the point of having an easier life in this one if your gonna rot in hell your arguement fails against religion that believes in an after life

 

[Mansur]

the creator wouldnt have to be jesus or anything in specific.

I dont understand this point

the afterlife isn’t real either since whether something is right or wrong is just subjective since there are cultures that eat humans and rape kids and its seen as normal.

Interesting point, but majority of humanity would disagree with this

Those people are exceptions

And also thats irrelevant since God couldve made any rules, they dont have to follow our interests particularly

 

[isis_Bleach]

Nigga your accounting it as this life is everything religion states clearly this life is just a test whats the point of having an easier life in this one if your gonna rot in hell your arguement fails against religion that believes in an after life

who cares what religion says its just made up shit anywaysits just what some guy said. plus the afterlife if it is real doesnt necessarily have to be heaven and hell depending on whether u followed manmade morals or not. it could be anything.

 

[miserycel]

Look into it, I mean 2b people believing it dont do it out of nowhere

And the 5 times a day is a joke really, a prayer lasts 5min max

Thats what stresses a lot of people out from my understanding

i have no issues praying 5 times a day, id gladly pray 20 times if i had unwavering belief and trust in god.

i used to do this thing back when i was 16-17 where i went full on deen.

made all 5 prayers daily, memorised juz 30, made sure to follow the sunnah

did that for 4 months. even after all that i still lacked the connection with god, i never believed in him i was just trying to force it. so i ultimately gave up and left. i don’t think it’s for me

 

[isis_Bleach]

I dont understand this point



Interesting point, but majority of humanity would disagree with this

Those people are exceptions

And also thats irrelevant since God couldve made any rules, they dont have to follow our interests particularly

nope those people are the people still living in the natural habitat they are the most untouched and closest to god’s design and shoukd be viewed as the default not the exception

 

[Azi.org]

come on you cant tell me you actually believe in karma when all the most successful people are the most sinister

its way easier to follow god’s (manmade) rules when u are a rich chad. its life on easy mode. i mean if they even are god’s rules and morals, u cant prove one god is real over another or that any religion even knows about the real god?

Karma comes in diffrent ways and majority of times in the afterlife guess why the celebrity are sinister maybe the imoral things they had to do to become sucsessful you can be sucsefull in this life but in a life where this is a test and the after life is the outcome its only logical to conclude sucsess in this life means nothing compared to the potential in the afterlife

 

[isis_Bleach]

I dont understand this point

wheb people say “everything has a creator so who created the sun and stars” as a proof for god or other things like “something cannot come from nothing” basically all logical proofs of god are useless because that doesn’t have ANYTHING to do with any human religion so the creator could be jesus or allah or whoever and there’s no way to tell when you try to use a logical argument for god.

 

[isis_Bleach]

Karma comes in diffrent ways and majority of times in the afterlife guess why the celebrity are sinister do you know what imoral things they had to do to become sucsessful you can be sucsefull in this life but in a life where this is a test and the after life is the outcome its only logical to conclude sucsess in this life means nothing compared to the potential in the afterlife

the afterlife doesnt exist u live and then its over so u gotta live the best life possible by getting surgeries and injecting roids etc. god is just a cope to make u not take that first step

 

[Mansur]

i have no issues praying 5 times a day, id gladly pray 20 times if i had unwavering belief and trust in god.

i used to do this thing back when i was 16-17 where i went full on deen.

made all 5 prayers daily, memorised juz 30, made sure to follow the sunnah

did that for 4 months. even after all that i still lacked the connection with god, i never believed in him i was just trying to force it. so i ultimately gave up and left. i don’t think it’s for me

Those deeds you do arent necessarily that keeps a bond between you and God

Intentions matter

Thats like your wife kissing you doing the dishes, but if she doesnt love you the whole treatment is useless and worthless for you

What has helped me is seeing his Love and Protection infront of me, and someone who I could trust. Once that thought appeared, I knew who I was aplogizing, beeing thankful to

And remember, if you make a tiny step towards Allah. He makes a bigger step towards you

 

[Azi.org]

who cares what religion says its just made up shit anywaysits just what some guy said. plus the afterlife if it is real doesnt necessarily have to be heaven and hell depending on whether u followed manmade morals or not. it could be anything.

That misses my point i was debating your point that was against religion and i am muslim so your point was illogical against my view and also your just making an agnostic statment yes after life could be anything possible everything could be anything possible you cant prove it however there is still a reality there is a real truth it could be anything that happens after you die but the thing that happens after you die happens

 

[Mansur]

wheb people say “everything has a creator so who created the sun and stars” as a proof for god or other things like “something cannot come from nothing” basically all logical proofs of god are useless because that doesn’t have ANYTHING to do with any human religion so the creator could be jesus or allah or whoever and there’s no way to tell when you try to use a logical argument for god.

You really could use one

If there is a source and everything has started with one thing ultimately

But in order for something to happen, you would need at least 2 particles

Nothing can explain it unless some greater power has caused the effect

 

[Azi.org]

the afterlife doesnt exist u live and then its over so u gotta live the best life possible by getting surgeries and injecting roids etc. god is just a cope to make u not take that first step

I cant prove afterlife neither can you and i choose to believe in it but i can see why you would believe the way you do altough you arent making any logical points your view is still coherent

 

[isis_Bleach]

That misses my point i was debating your point that was against religion and i am muslim so your point was illogical against my view and also your just making an agnostic statment yes after life could be anything possible everything could be anything possible you cant prove it however there is still a reality there is a real truth it could be anything that happens after you die but the thing that happens after you die happens

yea but whatever happens for sure isnt related to some manmade interpretation of correct choices its one of the craziest things that humans are irrelevant in scale to the universe but think they have it all figued out with the god nonsense

 

[Mansur]

nope those people are the people still living in the natural habitat they are the most untouched and closest to god’s design and shoukd be viewed as the default not the exception

And also thats irrelevant since God couldve made any rules, they dont have to follow our interests particularly

 

[isis_Bleach]

I cant prove afterlife neither can you and i choose to believe in it but i can see why you would believe the way you do altough you arent making any logical points your view is still coherent

its all logical