Austrian school economics has saved the world

[FiendFiend]

U guys all say "nothing ever happens" , I wonder why. It's maybe as if Austrian school economics and Austrian School thought in the 80s were adopted by Western countries.

Everyone benefits from mass privatisation. Even a communist country like China has become so centred around the Austrian School economic world order, if you reject it, like venezuela, cuba, your country collapses.

Most countries now pursue capital above all, and if they don't, they are set as an example. Every country operates like a big business, instead of nation-states.

But what about muh mass legal immigration from Austrian school economics? The free market of thoughts and ideas, and statistics prove that these immigrants are costing these countries more than they produce, as well as destroying the social fabric of the country, an unstable society = less economic activity = less foreign investors.

Thank God for the free market for making AI, I can't wait for an abundance of resources, UBI, and to see us actually get to a type 1 civilisation.

 

[JewishNationalist]

caring about economy is cucked as fuck. you should care about expanding your territories not about economy which is secondary at most

 

[FiendFiend]

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U guys all say "nothing ever happens" , I wonder why. It's maybe as if Austrian school economics and Austrian School thought in the 80s were adopted by Western countries.

Everyone benefits from mass privatisation. Even a communist country like China has become so centred around the Austrian School economic world order, if you reject it, like venezuela, cuba, your country collapses.

Most countries now pursue capital above all, and if they don't, they are set as an example. Every country operates like a big business, instead of nation-states.

But what about muh mass legal immigration from Austrian school economics? The free market of thoughts and ideas, and statistics prove that these immigrants are costing these countries more than they produce, as well as destroying the social fabric of the country, an unstable society = less economic activity = less foreign investors.

Thank God for the free market for making AI, I can't wait for an abundance of resources, UBI, and to see us actually get to a type 1 civilisation.

Third worlders benefit, westerners benefit, everyone benefits. I don't know how you could oppose it. Its funny when I see third worlders shit on it, as if their country living standards aren't improving thanks to the global free market.

 

[FiendFiend]

caring about economy is cucked as fuck. you should care about expanding your territories not about economy which is secondary at most

Lol, Venezuela did that. What happened? Muh, it's cucked. Russia was only able to fight sanctions thanks to the free markets in india and china.

Ivan is in his moms basement eating chocolate muffins and tea for breakfest talking about MUH territorial expansion. Go die in the meat grinder then faggot

 

[JewishNationalist]

Lol, Venezuela did that. What happened? Muh, it's cucked. Russia was only able to fight sanctions thanks to the free markets in india and china.

Ivan is in his moms basement eating chocolate muffins and tea for breakfest talking about MUH territorial expansion. Go die in the meat grinder then faggot

no arguments
well i get why though
you cannot expand so you cope with muh economy

 

[FiendFiend]

no arguments
well i get why though
you cannot expand so you cope with muh economy

Saar yes real territorial expansion saar of course

 

[JewishNationalist]

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Saar yes real territorial expansion saar of course

????
completely retarded to compare all that when its a war of attrition not the blitzkrieg lmfao

 

[FiendFiend]

????
completely retarded to compare all that when its a war of attrition not the blitzkrieg lmfao

3 years of said territorial expansion. BROOO SAAR ITS WAR OF ATTRITION RUSSIA WILL WIN EVENTUALLY AFTER 10,000,000 CASAULTIES

 

[JewishNationalist]

3 years of said territorial expansion. BROOO SAAR ITS WAR OF ATTRITION RUSSIA WILL WIN EVENTUALLY AFTER 10,000,000 CASAULTIES

we can conquer your country in less than a day bro
its like we did that in 1940 lmfao
your ethnicity is inferior

 

[FiendFiend]

we can conquer your country in less than a day bro
its like we did that in 1940 lmfao
your ethnicity is inferior

Maybe beat ukraine first retard

3 years of "territorial expansion" cant even beat fucking ukraine Im dead

 

[Hess]

Not true, capitalism is affected but majority of mass development and extremely rapid industrialization was done in a more keynesian manner, south africa under apartheid was an economic powerhouse prescisely because it never privitaized everything and actively used state ran companies to empower and work alongside its private sector, not to mention countries like singapore and south korea experienced their economic miracles via state-led capitalism as opposed to free market austrian economics, keynesians won, austrian sissies lost

 

[JewishNationalist]

Maybe beat ukraine first retard

3 years of "territorial expansion" cant even beat fucking ukraine Im dead

so? its not just ukraine its russia vs. nato (nato still loses)
and ur talking like ur country isn't 10x times weaker than UKRAINE im dead

 

[Hess]

Not true, capitalism is affected but majority of mass development and extremely rapid industrialization was done in a more keynesian manner, south africa under apartheid was an economic powerhouse prescisely because it never privitaized everything and actively used state ran companies to empower and work alongside its private sector, not to mention countries like singapore and south korea experienced their economic miracles via state-led capitalism as opposed to free market austrian economics, keynesians won, austrian sissies lost

Also china's capitalism is the complete opposite of austrian free market capitalism and is more heavily state led and interventionist form of it incorporating even economic models like corporatism, its the complete antithesis of Austrian economic thought

 

[xye]

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U guys all say "nothing ever happens" , I wonder why. It's maybe as if Austrian school economics and Austrian School thought in the 80s were adopted by Western countries.

Everyone benefits from mass privatisation. Even a communist country like China has become so centred around the Austrian School economic world order, if you reject it, like venezuela, cuba, your country collapses.

Most countries now pursue capital above all, and if they don't, they are set as an example. Every country operates like a big business, instead of nation-states.

But what about muh mass legal immigration from Austrian school economics? The free market of thoughts and ideas, and statistics prove that these immigrants are costing these countries more than they produce, as well as destroying the social fabric of the country, an unstable society = less economic activity = less foreign investors.

Thank God for the free market for making AI, I can't wait for an abundance of resources, UBI, and to see us actually get to a type 1 civilisation.

I’m an anarcho capitalist I agree

 

[JewishNationalist]

Also china's capitalism is the complete opposite of austrian free market capitalism and is more heavily state led and interventionist form of it incorporating even economic models like corporatism, its the complete antithesis of Austrian economic thought

Not true, capitalism is affected but majority of mass development and extremely rapid industrialization was done in a more keynesian manner, south africa under apartheid was an economic powerhouse prescisely because it never privitaized everything and actively used state ran companies to empower and work alongside its private sector, not to mention countries like singapore and south korea experienced their economic miracles via state-led capitalism as opposed to free market austrian economics, keynesians won, austrian sissies lost

how could us ancap cucks even cope

 

[Hess]

how could us ancap cucks even cope

just a meme ideology, but I do quite like hoppe's writing on democracy he did produce a very coherent argument for monarachies having a better track record of preserving freedom and such rather than democracy which I found to be a very interesting argument

 

[Amuzant]

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U guys all say "nothing ever happens" , I wonder why. It's maybe as if Austrian school economics and Austrian School thought in the 80s were adopted by Western countries.

Everyone benefits from mass privatisation. Even a communist country like China has become so centred around the Austrian School economic world order, if you reject it, like venezuela, cuba, your country collapses.

Most countries now pursue capital above all, and if they don't, they are set as an example. Every country operates like a big business, instead of nation-states.

But what about muh mass legal immigration from Austrian school economics? The free market of thoughts and ideas, and statistics prove that these immigrants are costing these countries more than they produce, as well as destroying the social fabric of the country, an unstable society = less economic activity = less foreign investors.

Thank God for the free market for making AI, I can't wait for an abundance of resources, UBI, and to see us actually get to a type 1 civilisation.

lambach abbey too

 

[JewishNationalist]

just a meme ideology, but I do quite like hoppe's writing on democracy he did produce a very coherent argument for monarachies having a better track record of preserving freedom and such rather than democracy which I found to be a very interesting argument

monarchy obviously mogs democracy and even the high T ancients like aristotle were saying that democracy is just retarded since plebs are too retarded to run the state properly while a high T monarch with good genetics for being a leader will obviously be more effective
but my political philosophy is realpolitik/might makes right

 

[FiendFiend]

I’m an anarcho capitalist I agree

I'm not anarcho capitalist , I believe it does require military backing a lot of the time, I just think we waste a shit ton of money on really pointless shit if I'm going to be honest. I'm right-wing economically; I just think some more authority is required. In borders , as well as stopping third worldism and socialism from spreading.

Other than that I agree with basically every other tenet of it. So much shit and spending needs to be cut. We are basically paying people to do nothing in government jobs a lot of the time; unnecessary bureaucracy, I don't see why we don't make a UBI system at this point instead of paying retarded desk fags 6 figures for basically adult day cares in where they produce nothing.

I could name so much government jobs that should just straight up not exist or can be automated.

 

[FiendFiend]

monarchy obviously mogs democracy and even the high T ancients like aristotle were saying that democracy is just retarded since plebs are too retarded to run the state properly while a high T monarch with good genetics for being a leader will obviously be more effective
but my political philosophy is realpolitik/might makes right

If democracy is so retarded why has it stood the test of time in the first world war, then second world war, and the cold war. Let me know retard

 

[JewishNationalist]

If democracy is so retarded why has it stood the test of time in the first world war, then second world war, and the cold war. Let me know retard

in first world war no country was democractic (all were monarchies)
in second world war no country was democratic (all were either dictatorships or monarchies which is also a dictatorship but an ancestral one)
in coldwar no country war democratic it was a high T dictatorship vs. soycuck shitlib republic (republic is also shit but a bit better than democracy)

 

[nuc]

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Saar yes real territorial expansion saar of course

just bullshitting lmao

 

[FiendFiend]

just a meme ideology, but I do quite like hoppe's writing on democracy he did produce a very coherent argument for monarachies having a better track record of preserving freedom and such rather than democracy which I found to be a very interesting argument

hoppe was retarded for writing that sorry. Democracy takes longer time to produce results, but it still does. He has been proven wrong constantly. The rise of dissident right wing populist parties proves the free market place of ideas exist, and its not just getting a "random person who has the same policies every 4 years".

He was a staunchly anti-nato figure and anti interventionist he is a fucking retard

 

[FiendFiend]

in first world war no country was democractic (all were monarchies)
in second world war no country was democratic (all were either dictatorships or monarchies which is also a dictatorship but an ancestral one)
in coldwar no country war democratic it was a high T dictatorship vs. soycuck shitlib republic (republic is also shit but a bit better than democracy)

Britain was a democracy, so was France, so was the US, so was canada, so was australia. So was Italy. Could you mind reminding me, did the absolute monarchy in turkey, russia stand the test of time? No. Did Germanys or Austria Hungaries? No.

Democracy is the best system we have.

 

[Hess]

hoppe was retarded for writing that sorry. Democracy takes longer time to produce results, but it still does. He has been proven wrong constantly. The rise of dissident right wing populist parties proves the free market place of ideas exist, and its not just getting a "random person who has the same policies every 4 years".

He was a staunchly anti-nato figure and anti interventionist he is a fucking retard

What parties? republicans are not all that even if they have a minor dissident base, restore britain and AFD are great and all but they are not at all as relevant with in the case of germany every single party left and conservative forming a firewall just to block out a little more right wing party that doesnt want immigrants, even germany's intelligence agencies work against the AFD its all just fake and gay, and NATO and policies in the ME have been a complete mess (intial interventions via operation desert storm, supporting the shah in iran and overthrowing them was a huge benefit but other than that it has been an extremely messy operation draining resources)

 

[Hess]

Britain was a democracy, so was France, so was the US, so was canada, so was australia. So was Italy. Could you mind reminding me, did the absolute monarchy in turkey, russia stand the test of time? No. Did Germanys or Austria Hungaries? No.

Democracy is the best system we have.

Britain wasnt a democracy as we knew it, voting was explicitly tied to social status, wealth and amount of property you owned with itt only being appealed after ww1, germany was also not an absolute monarchy either it was a parliamentary monarchy that actually was in many ways how britain operated in its prime, parliaments had real power but the PM was chosen by the monarch and the parliament, PM and kaiser all acted as counter balances toward each other (like how american executive, judicial and legislative branch counter balance each other)

 

[Hess]

Britain wasnt a democracy as we knew it, voting was explicitly tied to social status, wealth and amount of property you owned with itt only being appealed after ww1, germany was also not an absolute monarchy either it was a parliamentary monarchy that actually was in many ways how britain operated in its prime, parliaments had real power but the PM was chosen by the monarch and the parliament, PM and kaiser all acted as counter balances toward each other (like how american executive, judicial and legislative branch counter balance each other)

Germany lost because it's foreign policy alienated potential allies on both sides forcing it into a shitty bloc of decaying states (Russia would of happily allied with Germany if they wanted to antagonize britain and rival them and britain would of allied with germany if they focused purely on antaganzing russia and expanding east ward but they chose both which fucked them over)

 

[FiendFiend]

Britain wasnt a democracy as we knew it, voting was explicitly tied to social status, wealth and amount of property you owned with it

that is still a democracy lol?

 

[FiendFiend]

Germany lost because it's foreign policy alienated potential allies on both sides forcing it into a shitty bloc of decaying states (Russia would of happily allied with Germany if they wanted to antagonize britain and rival them and britain would of allied with germany if they focused purely on antaganzing russia and expanding east ward but they chose both which fucked them over)

authotarianism naturally alienates everyone jfl. As well as being too nationalistic. Preserving your race for the sake of preserving it is stupid. If ur race is backwards what is there to preserve? If you were black you would be a black nationalist.

That is stupid. I don't believe in race I believe in merit.

 

[Hess]

that is still a democracy lol?

A fairly limited one that is much different to ones we have considering the vast majority of its voting rights disenfranchised the working class and didint give them the right to vote due to not meeting property requirements or wealth requirements

 

[FiendFiend]

A fairly limited one that is much different to ones we have considering the vast majority of its voting rights disenfranchised the working class and didint give them the right to vote due to not meeting property requirements or wealth requirements

Democracy is meant to be for private individuals, women not voting was not anti democratic since they didn't have rights, women first needed rights and to own shit to even be able to have a right to vote.

It was still a democracy in where millions of people voted. You can consider that a democracy not everyone under the sun needs to have the right to vote for it to be some form of a democracy.

 

[Hess]

authotarianism naturally alienates everyone jfl.

Britain only got alienated because they felt threatened when germany decided building up its own navy to rival the royal navy, not because it alienated them due to them being authoritarian, france was against them because germany previously won a war against them taking the lands of alsace lorraine, if germany was more democratic the same issues would of prevailed regardless as these were foreign policy based for the most part not some crusade against authoritarians

As well as being too nationalistic. Preserving your race for the sake of preserving it is stupid. If ur race is backwards what is there to preserve? If you were black you would be a black nationalist.

That is stupid. I don't believe in race I believe in merit.

"I am for the whites because I am white; I have no other reason, and that one is good," - Napoleon Bonaparte, I don't need my people to be the best to want to heavily advocate for advancing their interests, but even then race is biologically real and aligns with hereditary features that are beneficial like IQ (if you want to learn abt basic HBD or race realism (which is even being brought back into academic mainstreams via ppl like nathan cofnas,) Im more than happy to send you stuff on it in dms)

 

[Hess]

Democracy is meant to be for private individuals, women not voting was not anti democratic since they didn't have rights, women first needed rights and to own shit to even be able to have a right to vote.

It was still a democracy in where millions of people voted. You can consider that a democracy not everyone under the sun needs to have the right to vote for it to be some form of a democracy.

My point was not that they were not a democracy, but that it was a limited democracy and other opposing powers were democratic to a degree as well, youre trying to paint a black and white picture for a very complex topic, but even then limited democracies were far more effective than the ones we have today

 

[Hess]

My point was not that they were not a democracy, but that it was a limited democracy and other opposing powers were democratic to a degree as well, youre trying to paint a black and white picture for a very complex topic, but even then limited democracies were far more effective than the ones we have today

Also I didnt bring up women sufferage, I brought up wealth and property requirements, which made huge chunks of the working class not eligible to vote

 

[FiendFiend]

My point was not that they were not a democracy, but that it was a limited democracy and other opposing powers were democratic to a degree as well, youre trying to paint a black and white picture for a very complex topic, but even then limited democracies were far more effective than the ones we have today

it isnt complicated lol the authotarian powers couldn't withstand the First World War, and it permanently shifted the world to democracy. The Second World War wasn't about fascism vs democracy, not at all. The first world war ended that fight already. It was a bunch of revanchist powers who got the bad end of the stick of the first world war fighting because they were humiliated too badly. It was a civil war in the western world.

Time will tell. We have mass abundance, mass technological reform, I believe democracy will fix the immigration problem and bring around remigration, the free market place of ideas works. Fascism only happens when there is no military alliances, as well as massive humiliation.

I'd say Russia in a way is a fascist revanchist country, because they were mistreated, thats why its important to reach a good agreement in ukraine , Russia needs to feel like its not humiliated. Other than that, China has boomed from the fall of the USSR, the only revanchist countries are Iran, Russia and North Korea. They are far too weak to take down the western world order.

I stand by my beliefs, countries like the US that constitutionally defend free speech to the fullest are reversing replacement, cant say the same for canada or these limited democracies.

These limited democracies serve the interests of the same elitist and royal families who wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. The royal family is giga fucking cucked and deserve Oliver Cromwell treatment for their failures. It needs to serve the people or go

 

[Hess]

it isnt complicated lol the authotarian powers couldn't withstand the First World War, and it permanently shifted the world to democracy. The Second World War wasn't about fascism vs democracy, not at all. The first world war ended that fight already. It was a bunch of revanchist powers who got the bad end of the stick of the first world war fighting because they were humiliated too badly. It was a civil war in the western world.

It very much was, fascism wasnt just authoritarianism and explicitly deemed itself as far different to the old aristocratic order and even heavily critiqued and barred full influence by the old german aristocrats in the state while preserving their estates/properties, and the reason powers like AH or the ottomans fell were not because of authoritarianism, austria-hungary was a mess of an extremely small austrian minority ruling over vast amounts of other europeans who wanted freedom and their own nation state, ottomans failed because they never modernized and germany failed because although it performed well its only allies were extremely incompetent and it had to carry them through the war, if they had different allies such as being alligned with russia against france or being alligned against russia with britain then they very much would of done far better, especially since these possible outcomes were very much possible with even lots of late 1800s and early 1900s british leaders,statesmen and intellectuals beliving in an anglo-german alliance and considered them a brother nation

Time will tell. We have mass abundance, mass technological reform, I believe democracy will fix the immigration problem and bring around remigration, the free market place of ideas works. Fascism only happens when there is no military alliances, as well as massive humiliation.

Democracy brought the immigration problem in the first place, the people you defend also vastly support manipulating democracy for their benefit (look at how conservatives in the german parliament join up with leftists to prevent the AFD from coming to power or how their intelligence agency labels them as extremists)

I'd say Russia in a way is a fascist revanchist country, because they were mistreated, thats why its important to reach a good agreement in ukraine , Russia needs to feel like its not humiliated. Other than that, China has boomed from the fall of the USSR, the only revanchist countries are Iran, Russia and North Korea. They are far too weak to take down the western world order.

Russia isnt fascist whatsoever, just a very limited and corrupt democracy which putin uses to manipulate the constitution to favor him, but also this exact policy of supporting ukraine heavily and expanding nato eastward caused this implicitly, russia pulled the trigger but this conflict was brewing since 2014, because they antagonized russia and werent willing to make consessions it has caused them to join into a bloc with china, which is the actual threat to america, also the revanchist countries you list are very much alligned with china which is a direct competitor with america, NATO willingly caused tearing russia from being alligned with a euro bloc to joing up with china

I stand by my beliefs, countries like the US that constitutionally defend free speech to the fullest are reversing replacement, cant say the same for canada or these limited democracies.

The US is also 52 percent white, and canada isnt a limited democracy what lol? the countries I actually see hope in is a return of a far right wing in europe considering that a huge chunk of eastern europe is like this already and if one of the actually powerful influential states in the EU became far right like germany with the AFD it would be far more of a win than the continuing trump administration.

These limited democracies serve the interests of the same elitist and royal families who wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. The royal family is giga fucking cucked and deserve Oliver Cromwell treatment for their failures. It needs to serve the people or go

they were well run with flaws but those elites were very much alligned with british interests until the systematic wiping out of the elite in ww1 (the british aristocracy were represented far more on the frontline than any other class and willingly volunteered for the war despite it killing almost all of them, same with the german aristocrats) , but yes the royal family deserves cromwell like figures but figures like that always explicitly drew funding from lower level elites and even segments of the higher elite (hitler was famous with prussian aristocrats even despite alienating them with rhetoric and not caving to all their demands and pursued a more radical nationalist state that pursued meritocracy, cromwell was similar in this regard)

 

[Hess]

It very much was, fascism wasnt just authoritarianism and explicitly deemed itself as far different to the old aristocratic order and even heavily critiqued and barred full influence by the old german aristocrats in the state while preserving their estates/properties, and the reason powers like AH or the ottomans fell were not because of authoritarianism, austria-hungary was a mess of an extremely small austrian minority ruling over vast amounts of other europeans who wanted freedom and their own nation state, ottomans failed because they never modernized and germany failed because although it performed well its only allies were extremely incompetent and it had to carry them through the war, if they had different allies such as being alligned with russia against france or being alligned against russia with britain then they very much would of done far better, especially since these possible outcomes were very much possible with even lots of late 1800s and early 1900s british leaders,statesmen and intellectuals beliving in an anglo-german alliance and considered them a brother nation

Democracy brought the immigration problem in the first place, the people you defend also vastly support manipulating democracy for their benefit (look at how conservatives in the german parliament join up with leftists to prevent the AFD from coming to power or how their intelligence agency labels them as extremists)

Russia isnt fascist whatsoever, just a very limited and corrupt democracy which putin uses to manipulate the constitution to favor him, but also this exact policy of supporting ukraine heavily and expanding nato eastward caused this implicitly, russia pulled the trigger but this conflict was brewing since 2014, because they antagonized russia and werent willing to make consessions it has caused them to join into a bloc with china, which is the actual threat to america, also the revanchist countries you list are very much alligned with china which is a direct competitor with america, NATO willingly caused tearing russia from being alligned with a euro bloc to joing up with china

The US is also 52 percent white, and canada isnt a limited democracy what lol? the countries I actually see hope in is a return of a far right wing in europe considering that a huge chunk of eastern europe is like this already and if one of the actually powerful influential states in the EU became far right like germany with the AFD it would be far more of a win than the continuing trump administration.

they were well run with flaws but those elites were very much alligned with british interests until the systematic wiping out of the elite in ww1 (the british aristocracy were represented far more on the frontline than any other class and willingly volunteered for the war despite it killing almost all of them, same with the german aristocrats) , but yes the royal family deserves cromwell like figures but figures like that always explicitly drew funding from lower level elites and even segments of the higher elite (hitler was famous with prussian aristocrats even despite alienating them with rhetoric and not caving to all their demands and pursued a more radical nationalist state that pursued meritocracy, cromwell was similar in this regard)

If I were to accept a democracy in the modern age then I would make securing demographic majorities and preservation of the ethnic group of the land a clause in the consitution so that it could never be amended or reversed, thats how I see democracy surviving in this day without failing to subversion

 

[Hess]

If I were to accept a democracy in the modern age then I would make securing demographic majorities and preservation of the ethnic group of the land a clause in the consitution so that it could never be amended or reversed, thats how I see democracy surviving in this day without failing to subversion

BTW im not a full on authoritarian, i think the best authoritarian states were one that accepted gradual democratic reforms while preserving authority very successful (IE let people vote and have a parliament that represents their interests and does have power to advance it to a degree while retaining the general authoritarian system and benefits of it while also diversifying power so its not all concentrated into one person (having a parliament, prime minister and authoritarian leader all with varying levels of power counterbalancing each other)

 

[FiendFiend]

If I were to accept a democracy in the modern age then I would make securing demographic majorities and preservation of the ethnic group of the land a clause in the consitution so that it could never be amended or reversed, thats how I see democracy surviving in this day without failing to subversion

Even south africa which is 6% white now will shift to the right and will become more white. JFL if I am wrong I will concede. Im just viewing demographic patterns, voting patterns, successive leftist government failures, and I know a right wing alternative will be brought in South Africa.

The white voting bloc accounts for 20% , not to mention the mixed who follow with the whites and vote more on average as well as the ur country being 1 in 5 illegals who can't vote. As long as democracy is maintained in SA and it doesnt fall to genuine communist dictatorship, u will see I am right.

 

[Hess]

Even south africa which is 6% white now will shift to the right and will become more white. JFL if I am wrong I will concede. Im just viewing demographic patterns, voting patterns, successive leftist government failures, and I know a right wing alternative will be brought in South Africa.

The white voting bloc accounts for 20% , not to mention the mixed who follow with the whites and vote more on average as well as the ur country being 1 in 5 illegals who can't vote. As long as democracy is maintained in SA and it doesnt fall to genuine communist dictatorship, u will see I am right.

I am relatively hopeful for the security of whites here but not because somehow I believe the south african state will become right wing but because actual afrikaner nationalists and right wingers have forgone normal parliamentry politics to pursue creating parallel insitutions, independent afrikaner only towns like orania being built up and funded to the point where its becoming a city as well as building up our own universities while doing so all around the northern cape which is an explicitly desolate area with sparse population that if all whites were concentrated in they would consitute the majority if we wanted to pursue independence and the creation of our volkstaat, the blacks however are an external threat and will always vote ANC or EFF no matter what because they view us afrikaners as their eternal enemies, even if both coloured and whites kept maintaining the agenda for more right wing policies it would not be enough to overcome their demographic majority, which is exactly why the former NP and apartheid state fought hard to oppose allowing them to vote, also parties like the DA are not right wing whatsoever they are akin to liberal parties in europe, they descend from the party that opposed the NP

 

[FiendFiend]

It very much was, fascism wasnt just authoritarianism and explicitly deemed itself as far different to the old aristocratic order and even heavily critiqued and barred full influence by the old german aristocrats in the state while preserving their estates/properties, and the reason powers like AH or the ottomans fell were not because of authoritarianism, austria-hungary was a mess of an extremely small austrian minority ruling over vast amounts of other europeans who wanted freedom and their own nation state, ottomans failed because they never modernized and germany failed because although it performed well its only allies were extremely incompetent and it had to carry them through the war, if they had different allies such as being alligned with russia against france or being alligned against russia with britain then they very much would of done far better, especially since these possible outcomes were very much possible with even lots of late 1800s and early 1900s british leaders,statesmen and intellectuals beliving in an anglo-german alliance and considered them a brother nation

Democracy brought the immigration problem in the first place, the people you defend also vastly support manipulating democracy for their benefit (look at how conservatives in the german parliament join up with leftists to prevent the AFD from coming to power or how their intelligence agency labels them as extremists)

Russia isnt fascist whatsoever, just a very limited and corrupt democracy which putin uses to manipulate the constitution to favor him, but also this exact policy of supporting ukraine heavily and expanding nato eastward caused this implicitly, russia pulled the trigger but this conflict was brewing since 2014, because they antagonized russia and werent willing to make consessions it has caused them to join into a bloc with china, which is the actual threat to america, also the revanchist countries you list are very much alligned with china which is a direct competitor with america, NATO willingly caused tearing russia from being alligned with a euro bloc to joing up with china

The US is also 52 percent white, and canada isnt a limited democracy what lol? the countries I actually see hope in is a return of a far right wing in europe considering that a huge chunk of eastern europe is like this already and if one of the actually powerful influential states in the EU became far right like germany with the AFD it would be far more of a win than the continuing trump administration.

they were well run with flaws but those elites were very much alligned with british interests until the systematic wiping out of the elite in ww1 (the british aristocracy were represented far more on the frontline than any other class and willingly volunteered for the war despite it killing almost all of them, same with the german aristocrats) , but yes the royal family deserves cromwell like figures but figures like that always explicitly drew funding from lower level elites and even segments of the higher elite (hitler was famous with prussian aristocrats even despite alienating them with rhetoric and not caving to all their demands and pursued a more radical nationalist state that pursued meritocracy, cromwell was similar in this regard)

Aristocracy is retarded and braindead, Do you think the british crown will piss on you if you were on fire? No. Because monarchs and authotarians enrich themselves, are backwards and desire comfort, not whats best for the people. Its why the british crown has been pushing super hard for mass immigration to make their profits go up.

The british crown sees more brown people and they don't think, "I as a monarch should stop in and end this" they think, well I don't want to be deposed , so how can I be more popular with the future generations. They lead from behind, not the front. The modern kings aren't Napoleon. They sit in their mansions.

Monarchies failed because they used to fight on horseback with their men, they don't do that. If your leader is going to sit in a mansion or comfy house as war goes on, would u not want a pragmatic workhorse, elected by the people every 4 years, and not some dumb inbred retard who doesn't go to war.

Because of modern warfare, and just how unstable it is to have a king on frontlines, (for instance rome, most the emperors were military leaders who died in war eventually), it is best we elect Kings. That is what a president is. A president with total executive power. Unlike some eurocuck Prime minister, who answers to some King or President, has 1000 red tape.

If global capital is so in favour of mass immigration why is the richest man in the world, anti immigration? Because they seek profits, they know it is not sustainable, they want to protect their profits. Some left wing billionaires drank on their own kool aid too much to the point they have become diehard leftists, like Soros, or are old money freaks who board themself up, are too lazy to get out there and make new money, thankfully their wealth is going away. The rothschilds and these old noble families are going broke and venture capital is taking them over.

The US is not 52% white jfl. It is more so around 65% white if u include latin american whites. Is pitbull an ethnic man to u? Lol.

Hitler was popular with the aristocracy because they were all grifting faggots who will suck the next cock that helps them give social status and money for some fucking bloodline they had and not on merit. The aristocracy can go fuck themselves, they are the same retards who scream about how they are WASP, vote for more mass immigration because they don't know how to make money outside of buying up a bunch of property, building it for dirt cheap and exploiting the record high house prices from the new millions of people they brought over.

Stop glazing people who would not piss on you if u were on fire. Not an aristocratic family has come out to stop the raping of europe. Only Switzerland which put a population cap and, which is one of the oldest republics in Europe. Well well well.

 

[FiendFiend]

I am relatively hopeful for the security of whites here but not because somehow I believe the south african state will become right wing but because actual afrikaner nationalists and right wingers have forgone normal parliamentry politics to pursue creating parallel insitutions, independent afrikaner only towns like orania being built up and funded to the point where its becoming a city as well as building up our own universities while doing so all around the northern cape which is an explicitly desolate area with sparse population that if all whites were concentrated in they would consitute the majority if we wanted to pursue independence and the creation of our volkstaat, the blacks however are an external threat and will always vote ANC or EFF no matter what because they view us afrikaners as their eternal enemies, even if both coloured and whites kept maintaining the agenda for more right wing policies it would not be enough to overcome their demographic majority, which is exactly why the former NP and apartheid state fought hard to oppose allowing them to vote, also parties like the DA are not right wing whatsoever they are akin to liberal parties in europe, they descend from the party that opposed the NP

Millions will be deported out of SA, the economy will be liberalized, causing black birth rates to go into the toilets and whites and mixed to be higher, because right wing economic policies leads to the new money middle and upper class being able to reproduce and not apes.

Apartheid fell because it was a PR stunt for America, Henry Kissinger had immense regret of his role in it, but saw it as a necessary evil.

You are thinking about how you can lock yourself up in barbed wire and live in "peace", meanwhile other whites like elon are thinking about how to stop western civilisation declining and how to achieve a type 1 civilisation.

We must not fall into laziness, or being content. Colonialism succeded in developing a lot of countries, that is why their populations exploded, it is now our duty to give them starlink, develop them so much to the point their birth rates go into the fucking toilet , and from the ashes white people through the free market place of ideas will get back their countries.

History does not reward isolationaism and just want to be "left alone man". Look at the Qing. We need more data centers and venture capital.

 

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3 years of said territorial expansion. BROOO SAAR ITS WAR OF ATTRITION RUSSIA WILL WIN EVENTUALLY AFTER 10,000,000 CASAULTIES

poutine just wants to fill his pockets he doesn't give af about muh history

 

[Hess]

Aristocracy is retarded and braindead, Do you think the british crown will piss on you if you were on fire? No. Because monarchs and authotarians enrich themselves, are backwards and desire comfort, not whats best for the people. Its why the british crown has been pushing super hard for mass immigration to make their profits go up.

You're conflating the aristocratic class with the elite bourgeosie class, the aristocrat class were literally overrepresented on the frontline during ww1 lol as they explicitly saw it as their duty and culture to lead their people into battle, and the british crown is ZOGGED to high hell no one is arguing against that but mostly because they are subservient to an elite bourgeoise and not an actual aristocracy which is entrenched in their nation's future, even self interested ones are more invested in their nation presicely because their properties and wealth are explicitly tied only to the nation and state which makes them inherently loyal as well even if you have extremely selfish ones, not to mention the aristocrats were the ones behind funding and helping the fascist movements despite disagreeing with them, king edward of the british crown was also massively pro hitler before being forced to abdicate, you conflate aristocrats with merchant elites

The british crown sees more brown people and they don't think, "I as a monarch should stop in and end this" they think, well I don't want to be deposed , so how can I be more popular with the future generations. They lead from behind, not the front. The modern kings aren't Napoleon. They sit in their mansions.

The british crown has zero political power but I dont disagree with hating the british royal family, but even then its mostly because they are subservient to the actual current ruling class which is capitalistic elites and politicians far removed from the interests of their people, not to mention napoleon was a monarch himself and even capitivated and cultivated loyalty with lots of the former aristocratic elite in france

Monarchies failed because they used to fight on horseback with their men, they don't do that. If your leader is going to sit in a mansion or comfy house as war goes on, would u not want a pragmatic workhorse, elected by the people every 4 years, and not some dumb inbred retard who doesn't go to war.

Im not a monarchist, i support aristocracy but not full on monarchy, also these pragmatic workhorses dont care they run campaigns promising shit then dont deliver, not to mention they actively support advancing their own financial interests via insider trading

Because of modern warfare, and just how unstable it is to have a king on frontlines, (for instance rome, most the emperors were military leaders who died in war eventually), it is best we elect Kings. That is what a president is. A president with total executive power. Unlike some eurocuck Prime minister, who answers to some King or President, has 1000 red tape.

See my other point above.

If global capital is so in favour of mass immigration why is the richest man in the world, anti immigration? Because they seek profits, they know it is not sustainable, they want to protect their profits. Some left wing billionaires drank on their own kool aid too much to the point they have become diehard leftists, like Soros, or are old money freaks who board themself up, are too lazy to get out there and make new money, thankfully their wealth is going away. The rothschilds and these old noble families are going broke and venture capital is taking them over.

Elon musk literally defend H1B immigrants coming to america, he loves his little indian wagies just as much and he is a complete grifter who was a liberal lovechild just years prior to this, his father is more right wing than him JFL (errol musk explicitly defend apartheid, said us becoming more non white was bad and is a far better figure than him, i hope his emerald mines kill more african children for the volkstaat cause), not to mention his father owned him and rightfully pointed out that elon's turn to trump was caused by being snubbed by biden admin and is politically a retarded centrist while his dad is an actual white nationalist

The US is not 52% white jfl. It is more so around 65% white if u include latin american whites. Is pitbull an ethnic man to u? Lol.

Latinos are not white JFL, as for pitbull he is part of a very rare caste of south americans which are called criollos, who are of full spanish descent, the vast majority of them are just half white and half brown which is not white, this is if i tried claiming the retarded coloureds here as white.

Hitler was popular with the aristocracy because they were all grifting faggots who will suck the next cock that helps them give social status and money for some fucking bloodline they had and not on merit. The aristocracy can go fuck themselves, they are the same retards who scream about how they are WASP, vote for more mass immigration because they don't know how to make money outside of buying up a bunch of property, building it for dirt cheap and exploiting the record high house prices from the new millions of people they brought over.

We could argue that sure, but the people you are now bring up abt importing vast amounts of immigrants arent aristocrats but are just rich people wanting to pursue their financial interests, as for aristocrats opposing immigration here is some examples listed here

 

[Hess]

Millions will be deported out of SA, the economy will be liberalized, causing black birth rates to go into the toilets and whites and mixed to be higher, because right wing economic policies leads to the new money middle and upper class being able to reproduce and not apes.

Fantasy, if this actually happens I would happily concede but i do not see this happening whatsoever.

Apartheid fell because it was a PR stunt for America, Henry Kissinger had immense regret of his role in it, but saw it as a necessary evil.

Ya because your country conveniently tries to oppose any pro white nation, we dont care for your need for a pr stunt if your interests are explicitly against ours.

You are thinking about how you can lock yourself up in barbed wire and live in "peace", meanwhile other whites like elon are thinking about how to stop western civilisation declining and how to achieve a type 1 civilisation.

Gaining our own actual nation in which we achieve independence and can aggressively pursue our interests is not isolationism or locking ourselves up, why should we be beholden to an african state that pursues only black interests while threatining to steal our land as well as encouraging farm murders, if we had our own state we would able to turn the desolate northern cape into a financial powerhouse and lead to even expansion if opportunities come up.

We must not fall into laziness, or being content. Colonialism succeded in developing a lot of countries, that is why their populations exploded, it is now our duty to give them starlink, develop them so much to the point their birth rates go into the fucking toilet , and from the ashes white people through the free market place of ideas will get back their countries.

Fuck no lol, our mistake was trying to be moral and do good for racial enemies and inferior peoples, we should of wiped them off the planet and genocided them off the face of the earth, not give them better living conditions lmfao, american colonization was great presicely because they obiliterated and genocided the native americans into being an insignificant minority, same with australian and NZ colonization.

History does not reward isolationaism and just want to be "left alone man". Look at the Qing. We need more data centers and venture capital.

I have not once advocated for isolationism, just for a nation state that can be used as a platform to actually advocate for our interests aggressively