Avoid polyunsaturated fats if you do not want to age

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Some redpilled quotes from Ray Peat:


The remarkable resistance of “essential fatty acid deficient” animals to shock (Cook, et al., 1981; Li et al., 1990; Autore, et al., 1994) shows that the polyunsaturated fats are centrally involved in the maladaptive reactions of shock. The cellular changes that occur in shock–calcium retention, leakiness, reduced energy production–are seen in aging and the degenerative diseases; the stress hormones and free fatty acids tend to be chronically higher in old age, and an outstanding feature of old age is the reduced ability to tolerate stress and to recover from injuries…


Many older studies found that rats which were deficient in the "essential fatty acids" had the signs of hyperthyroidism, and were in a hyper-metabolic state. The avoidance of oxidatively toxic heavy metals, and the maintenance of respiration, with an absence of the highly peroxidizable unsaturated fats in the diet (and a lower level of them in the storage tissues) would probably make the animals tolerate stress better (EFA deficient mitochondria are more resistant to oxidative injury, and vitamin E prevents many stress-associated problems), and might inhibit the age-related oxidative changes in serum albumin, red blood cells, and other tissues.


When animals are made "deficient" in the polyunsaturated fatty acids, their wounds heal, with normal or accelerated collagen synthesis, and with more vigorous collagen breakdown (parnham, et aI., 1977). Their blood vessels are more resistant, preventing shock that would otherwise be caused by many factors. All phases of development, from gestation to aging, are altered by the presence of the unsaturated fats, and these effects correspond closely to the loss of the regenerative capacity, the ability to replenish and restore tissues


PUFAs are in almost all processed foods (anything with oil that isn't coconut or palm). But you also want to avoid nuts and fish (oil) (this might still be too redpilled for some). You also don't want to overindulge in foods that are "high in saturated fats" such as meat or whole milk, because these foods contain more PUFAs than you might think (they are not nearly as bad as vegetable oils of course).

Some of you might think, ray peat looks as old as he is. This is a valid concern, but don't forget that he only got into this way of eating at 40 or so, and he is not avoiding PUFAs as much as optimal (he still eats eggs, butter and lamb).
 
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Yeah let's listen to someone who thinks coca cola sugar is healthy and who looks like shit. What next, post ramblings by Dr Greger about the health benefits of veganism?
 
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any other alternative
 
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just eat grass theory
 
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Not trying to convince anyone. Just giving some info for people that want to look into it more.
dont forget that PUFAs are literally necessary to produce PGE2 (think balding), “age pigment” is literally a combination of iron and PUFA, and that PUFA concentration in tissues increase with age. PUFAs may just play a crucial role in aging.
 
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what about sat fats cause i have those a lot
 
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what about sat fats cause i have those a lot
Sat fats don’t cause damage, the problem is that those foods come with PUFA if you eat a lot
 
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Yeah let's listen to someone who thinks coca cola sugar is healthy and who looks like shit. What next, post ramblings by Dr Greger about the health benefits of veganism?
tufano detected
 
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what about sat fats cause i have those a lot
everything causes damage but of all fats, transfats and PUFAs are the worst
they stagnate your metabolism, cause lipid peroxidation and damage proteins 20x more than sugar

The problem is, when you avoid PUFAs but eat more SFAs then you need to get adequate B vitamins, especially Biotin

I am partially siding with Peat because his PUFA theorie makes sense to me more than mainstream thoughts about PUFA

on some things he is indeed very questionable
 
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everything causes damage but of all fats, transfats and PUFAs are the worst
they stagnate your metabolism, cause lipid peroxidation and damage proteins 20x more than sugar

The problem is, when you avoid PUFAs but eat more SFAs then you need to get adequate B vitamins, especially Biotin

I am partially siding with Peat because his PUFA theorie makes sense to me more than mainstream thoughts about PUFA

on some things he is indeed very questionable
so margarine is pretty much death sentence as has lots of trans fats
 
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so margarine is pretty much death sentence as has lots of trans fats
as for Ray Peat = yes

you have to decide which way you go, I have been on modern diet for too long and I know I could do better

If I can keep it simple for laymen, the most convincing part about Peat PUFA theory was a shower thought of mine:
PUFAs keeps the bodyworking, and intervall fasting is pretty much that you dont eat for some time until your body has processed all the PUFAs (and everything else you ate), then you enter fasting state with autophagy, so your metabolism gets faster again and your body can heal itself also.

So if you dont eat PUFAs, your metabolism doesnt really get slowed down that much, you may enter autophagy quicker besides other benefits
 
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Ray Peat is an idiot, but he's right about this
 
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This can't be right
 
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This can't be right
This has to be the stupidest shit I have ever heard. Saturated fats aren't really bad for you because they aren't going to raise bad cholesterol by a significant amount unless if you go overboard. Trans fats are horrible. You should never ever consume trans fat tbh. Unsaturated fats PROMOTE heart health, collagen, and are always in foods high in vitamin E (You know the things called...ANTIOXIDANTS?).
 
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This has to be the stupidest shit I have ever heard. Saturated fats aren't really bad for you because they aren't going to raise bad cholesterol by a significant amount unless if you go overboard. Trans fats are horrible. You should never ever consume trans fat tbh. Unsaturated fats PROMOTE heart health, collagen, and are always in foods high in vitamin E (You know the things called...ANTIOXIDANTS?).
Tell me how much vitamin E is in processed canola oil you use to fry your garbage chicken breasts.
 
Tell me how much vitamin E is in processed canola oil you use to fry your garbage chicken breasts.
Ok to be fair, I'm talking about things like nuts. That's where I get my unsaturated fats from and they are loaded with vitamin E. Cooking oil is always a different story
 
Ok to be fair, I'm talking about things like nuts. That's where I get my unsaturated fats from and they are loaded with vitamin E. Cooking oil is always a different story
Vitamin E is what protects against the damaging effects of PUFAs. The lower your PUFA intake the lower your vitamin E requirement. However it can’t compensate for all the damage, so avoiding PUFAs is your safest bet. You can always supplement a little vitamin E
 

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any other alternative
Not right now really. My ultimate goal is to create a pill that can saturate (fully hydrogenate) PUFAs inside the stomach or intestine, that would be amazing.
I’m not sure PUFAs are the sole cause of aging, but people shouldn’t shrug it off either. Eventually aging is a degenerative response to the environment. It’s not like your body has a stopwatch and just ages randomly. Something has to cause it. I think iron has a lot to do with it too.
 
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