Balding=It's Over

[samskeyti]

I've been doing research on androgenetic alopecia for +5 years as a mpb sufferer myself.I somehow managed to slow down it with ru58841+minoxidil+microneedling.However these treatments are just cope.It's still progressing and it will progress for anyone unless chemically castrated by bullshit drugs such as finasteride,dutasteride,cyproterone acetate,bicalutamide etc.Hair transplantation is just another bullshit as well.There is a very good chance that it may go wrong and even if you somehow luckily manage to have a good transplant,you will lose that hair as well since it won't change the androgenic activity on the follicle level.Balding is a losing battle.If you are balding,you're fucked.If you're balding and trying to reverse it,you will be chemically castrated and fucked further.

 

[Deleted member 685]

Just get a hair transplant ffs it's pretty cheap and you can always get a new one

 

[john435]

Just get a hair transplant ffs it's pretty cheap and you can always get a new one

Lmao it's both one of the most expensive surgeries and least likely to provide a desirable outcome. Even if it does go well aesthetically you need to be on tranny drugs for life or there's no point.

Currently on fin+RU+derma+minox and rather be chemically castrated than bald tbh. have witnessed my 24-year-old brother gone from 6'4 chad to 42-yr-old gay alien skull genetic prisoner in a matter of 3 yrs. No hair = no life will rope b4 i reach nw4..

 

[Pubertymaxxer3]

WATER

 

[Vidyacoper]

lol youre letting yourself go completely bald because "muhh castration wahh wahh i dont wanna take fin! that drug is bullshit!"

enjoy losing all the hair on your head and no woman will ever see you as a man or possibly be attracted to u again

 

[samskeyti]

Good luck having a limp,numb dick as the corpus cavernosum solely depens on dht and dht starvation deteriorates all the penile function over time.
The only solution is somehow antogonizing the androgen receptors on the scalp while making sure that the serum androgen levels and the androgen receptors found in the rest of the body is intact.Not even cb-03-01 can do that

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

lol youre letting yourself go completely bald because "muhh castration wahh wahh i dont wanna take fin! that drug is bullshit!"
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enjoy losing all the hair on your head and no woman will ever see you as a man or possibly be attracted to u again

he's right, rather try the 30 or so natural remedies available before you completely fuck yourself up. it's not like 1-2 years make that much of a difference if they don't produce desired results

 

[Deleted member 4577]

lol youre letting yourself go completely bald because "muhh castration wahh wahh i dont wanna take fin! that drug is bullshit!"
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enjoy losing all the hair on your head and no woman will ever see you as a man or possibly be attracted to u again

Hmm yikes sweaty, the rock is bald and woman like him! Just be confident.

 

[diggbicc]

lol youre letting yourself go completely bald because "muhh castration wahh wahh i dont wanna take fin! that drug is bullshit!"
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enjoy losing all the hair on your head and no woman will ever see you as a man or possibly be attracted to u again

nibba with these tranny drugs you ain't gonna be no man

 

[samskeyti]

Balding is definitely a curse nobody denies that,and if someone does he's just lying to himself.That's the bitter truth.I personally know a urologist professor who wrote his thesis on the comparison of penile function&penile tissue reactions to castration-finasteride-dutasteride.Castration is of course the worst but fin-dut reactions are quite terrible and resembles to that of castration over time.

 

[Vidyacoper]

nibba with these tranny drugs you ain't gonna be no man

id rather have a youthful, luscious full head of hair and be completely dickless than bald

 

[Deleted member 5912]

what about hair transplant surgery

 

[diggbicc]

he's right, rather try the 30 or so natural remedies available before you completely fuck yourself up. it's not like 1-2 years make that much of a difference if they don't produce desired results

whats the point of destroying your libido if you try to keep your hair to attract women in the first place? Thats like those tren blasters with fell muh big mussccless bebe, and pull their pants down to two shriveled raisins and a twig?

 

[MaxillaHeadroom]

Lmao it's both one of the most expensive surgeries and least likely to provide a desirable outcome. Even if it does go well aesthetically you need to be on tranny drugs for life or there's no point.

Currently on fin+RU+derma+minox and rather be chemically castrated than bald tbh. have witnessed my 24-year-old brother gone from 6'4 chad to 42-yr-old gay alien skull genetic prisoner in a matter of 3 yrs. No hair = no life will rope b4 i reach nw4..

It depends on the level of balding. If you're one of those guys who has a slowly receding hairline, you don't need to be on finasteride.

 

[diggbicc]

id rather have a youthful, luscious full head of hair and be completely dickless than bald

this site has fags who would rather keep hair than sexual function JFL. Tranniest gay shit I have ever heard. If you are gonna take so many drugs, might as well get a hair patch, better results and now with newer patches and glues you need to change them once every 3 months or so.. Even a HT will at least make you have hair till 30-35 guaranteed, beyond that point money and status matter more, none of you are gonna be looking like pitt or O'Pry at 40 JFL

Mogs those drugs to oblivion in terms of time, effort, health and results.

 

[Nosecel]

JUST SHAVE IT BRO

 

[Vidyacoper]

this site has fags who would rather keep hair than sexual function JFL. Tranniest gay shit I have ever heard. If you are gonna take so many drugs, might as well get a hair patch, better results and now with newer patches and glues you need to change them once every 3 months or so..

i think hair systems are legit if youre like nw3+ or so, but otherwise you might as well hop on fin (gives a bit of regrowth) and also get a hair transplant depending on if u need it, the chance of side effects from fin are very low, and if you start from a low dose for a few months you could decrease that chance further

 

[Equinox]

Lmao it's both one of the most expensive surgeries and least likely to provide a desirable outcome. Even if it does go well aesthetically you need to be on tranny drugs for life or there's no point.

Currently on fin+RU+derma+minox and rather be chemically castrated than bald tbh. have witnessed my 24-year-old brother gone from 6'4 chad to 42-yr-old gay alien skull genetic prisoner in a matter of 3 yrs. No hair = no life will rope b4 i reach nw4..

Stop talking horseshit.

Legit hair transplants in Turkey (below) are only $4000 and incredibly successful these days. Since the hair is taken from the donor hair at the back of the head - YOU DON'T NEED TO BE ON DRUGS AFTER. Stop this fucking myth already.

It is not necessary take any medication whatsoever after to the hair transplant surgery. The donor area from where the hair are taken for transplantation are independent of any influence of DHT and are permanent and never fall. They do not need any medication.

 

[MaxillaHeadroom]

Stop talking horseshit.

Legit hair transplants are only $3000 and incredibly successful these days. Since the hair is taken from the donor hair at the back of the head - YOU DON'T NEED TO BE ON DRUGS AFTER. Stop this fucking myth already.



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You can probably find hair transplants for like 3000-5000$, but Hasson & Wong will raise your SMV more than the 3000-5000$ one.

 

[Seth Walsh]

You can probably find hair transplants for like 3000-5000$, but Hasson & Wong will raise your SMV more than the 3000-5000$ one.

Nice username haha

 

[samskeyti]

I'm a diffuse tinner any I got no recession in my temples but only in the crown and mid area.Someone can barely notice I'm thinning unless they examine my crown.But I was diagnosed in 2014 by a dermatologist,slowly thinning out in those areas since that day.Treatments(ru+min+needling) did really slow down the process but they are to no avail in terms of completely halting&reversing the balding

 

[Deleted member 5912]

Lmao it's both one of the most expensive surgeries and least likely to provide a desirable outcome. Even if it does go well aesthetically you need to be on tranny drugs for life or there's no point.

Currently on fin+RU+derma+minox and rather be chemically castrated than bald tbh. have witnessed my 24-year-old brother gone from 6'4 chad to 42-yr-old gay alien skull genetic prisoner in a matter of 3 yrs. No hair = no life will rope b4 i reach nw4..

its 3 to 9 dollars per graft depending on the procedure
and it can go from 1500grafts. to 10000grafts depending on how much hair you want

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

Why not just get a Hair System?

 

[samskeyti]

I'm not sure if it's possible to have a hair transplantation surgery while you're not completely fucked up.A transplant would return me to my baseline nw1 because I didn't recess at all in the temples and a tiny amount of grafts transplated into the area of crown and mid area would completely restore it.I can retain it something like 4-5 years with treatments like ru,minox,microoneedling,alfatradiol etc then I would return to what I have right now as I'd be slowly thinning again.I'm not sure if i can benefit from that because I don't think researchers and scientists give a fuck about male pattern baldness.I can't see a good,promising treatment coming in the next five years that can replace finasteride without nasty sides.

 

[Mr Norwood]

Stop talking horseshit.

Legit hair transplants in Turkey (below) are only $4000 and incredibly successful these days. Since the hair is taken from the donor hair at the back of the head - YOU DON'T NEED TO BE ON DRUGS AFTER. Stop this fucking myth already.

The drugs aren't to stop the transplanted hair from falling out. It's to stop the rest of your hair from falling out. So unless the whole top of your head has been covered with transplanted donor hair, you will need a hair loss prevention regimen. That raises the question of can a transplant achieve good density when they have to cover the while of the top of your head? It's questionable.

If you're a Norwood 3 and they fix your hairline, you will carry on receding behind the transplanted hair.

 

[Guterstein]

I've been doing research on androgenetic alopecia for +5 years as a mpb sufferer myself.I somehow managed to slow down it with ru58841+minoxidil+microneedling.However these treatments are just cope.It's still progressing and it will progress for anyone unless chemically castrated by bullshit drugs such as finasteride,dutasteride,cyproterone acetate,bicalutamide etc.Hair transplantation is just another bullshit as well.There is a very good chance that it may go wrong and even if you somehow luckily manage to have a good transplant,you will lose that hair as well since it won't change the androgenic activity on the follicle level.Balding is a losing battle.If you are balding,you're fucked.If you're balding and trying to reverse it,you will be chemically castrated and fucked further.

First of all, before you go into hormone altering drugs, you must need baseline exams.
E.g: Free & Total Test
Free & total DHT
Estradiol sensitive
Prolactin
SHBG

You need this sheet to compare how (un)castrated you'll become. Don't be autistic and believe muh doctor MD that doesnt even takes fin or knows a sheet about hormone optimization.

Must understand that:
*Fin will "kill" up to 70% of type II Alpha Reductase.
*Fin will spike Testosterone and by aromatization estrogen by about 15%
*Dutasteride will "kill" 99% of type I & type II Alpha Reductase, but no Testosterone
*Testorone will still have an androgenic effect on the scalp
*RU58841 (not the one from Kane) will have about the same binding affinity to "outcompete" Testosterone on the receptor level.
*Estrogen sweetspot would be 20-30pg/ml
*Estrogen can be manipulated by aromatization suppressors & by diet.
*If you microneedle and don't have rivers of blood flowing from your scalp, your not doing it right.

Pro tip: 3 ways to achieve follicle neogenesis. Bloody microneedling, Lithium Chloride (no + than 1x week), Valproic Acid 5-7mg/ml (Depakene)

Ascent from idioticy before ascending to a slayer.
Further read: Finasteride Gyno https://moreplatesmoredates.com/finasteride-gynecomastia/

 

[Guterstein]

I'm not sure if it's possible to have a hair transplantation surgery while you're not completely fucked up.A transplant would return me to my baseline nw1 because I didn't recess at all in the temples and a tiny amount of grafts transplated into the area of crown and mid area would completely restore it.I can retain it something like 4-5 years with treatments like ru,minox,microoneedling,alfatradiol etc then I would return to what I have right now as I'd be slowly thinning again.I'm not sure if i can benefit from that because I don't think researchers and scientists give a fuck about male pattern baldness.I can't see a good,promising treatment coming in the next five years that can replace finasteride without nasty sides.

You count with the luck not many have. On normal people with templates and temporal peak recession, we should aim to undergo surgery with Doctors that are knowledgeble and got experience treating those areas, since they are problematic zones.

Run away from any doctor not willing to work on the above mentioned zones. Norwood 5, 6, 7 could have frontotemporal peaks FUE transplants and stick a hair system, on the rest, for more of a natural result.