Bass Ascension Discussion (Surgery Or Not)

[IDontBlameAnybody]

So me and @async had a discussion about Bass (you probably all know who he is).

In my opinion, he 100% got surgery done, @async is kind of 50/50 and thought that puberty might've done it for him and that he got lucky.

Before:

After:

So me personally, I think the lower third difference is unachievable without any surgical intervention, whether it's implants or fillers.
Also his supras came down so much and got straighter, I think puberty cannot make your dogshit supras high tier supras. That's what I think he got done.

He himself claimed "braces and palate expander" fixed his lower third, but that is bullshit, palate expander won't make your jaw wider and neither do braces.

He does have naturally a really good PFL and lower eyelid. I'm not hating on the guy at all, I like him, he looks really good and I'm happy for him.
What do you think?

 

[async]

experts get in here

 

[Aqualad]

I’d bet he didn’t get surgery simply because of the fact that he’s looked that good since like early 2024 or something whereas surgery is only just now going mainstream in young people who aren’t actual incels because of Linoob, Timothy, Brae etc. literally just the fact that the only people who were getting surgery 1 year ago were omega middle age looksmax rotters already makes the odds low

And when it comes to osteotomies and/or implants you can pretty much always tell whether someone’s had something done if you know what to look for. I’ve seen bass in motion and implants/osteotomies don’t look or move like that

At the very most he got fillers which can look very natural e.g Blackgymmax or cheatwin

 

[IDontBlameAnybody]

I’d bet he didn’t get surgery simply because of the fact that he’s looked that good since like early 2024 or something whereas surgery is only just now going mainstream in young people who aren’t actual incels because of Linoob, Timothy, Brae etc. literally just the fact that the only people who were getting surgery 1 year ago were omega middle age looksmax rotters already makes the odds low

And when it comes to osteotomies and/or implants you can pretty much always tell whether someone’s had something done if you know what to look for. I’ve seen bass in motion and implants/osteotomies don’t look or move like that

At the very most he got fillers which can look very natural e.g Blackgymmax or cheatwin

Well I'm getting surgeries, gotten 3 procedures already, currently recovering, and I joined org 1 year ago, maybe lurked a very tad bit in late 2023. I got my first surgery a year ago and I'm not an omega middle age looksmax rotter .

I mean you are right, many people don't get surgeries, but purely going on his before and after, I don't see how one can make such big differences to his looks NATURALLY.

 

[Aqualad]

Well I'm getting surgeries, gotten 3 procedures already, currently recovering, and I joined org 1 year ago, maybe lurked a very tad bit in late 2023. I got my first surgery a year ago and I'm not an omega middle age looksmax rotter .

I mean you are right, many people don't get surgeries, but purely going on his before and after, I don't see how one can make such big differences to his looks NATURALLY.

You joined org 1 year ago but got your first surgery 1 year ago wym, also most hardmaxxers are indeed middle aged rotters prior 2024

Also I wouldn’t deny that bass got fillers, I mean the skull change is very noticeable. I’m just arguing he definitely didn’t get osteotomies or implants. The heavy frauding is amplifying it

 

[IDontBlameAnybody]

You joined org 1 year ago but got your first surgery 1 year ago wym

Well you said "people who were getting surgery 1 year ago were omega middle age looksmax rotters already makes the odds low". I joined a year ago and immediately went straight to business.

Though I get your point, people who usually get surgeries have rotted here long enough and are OG's.

Yeah he might've just gotten fillers for the jaw, but the supras are definitely very suspicious. Though the way he gained so much ramus and also widened his jaw at the same time looks like a classical wrap around jaw implant, though the same is still achievable with fillers. And yes I agree that he didn't get any osteotomies.

Yeah he is wearing make up n shit so he is in fact frauding and so am I everyday lol.

 

[IDontBlameAnybody]

he didn’t get surgery

He is 17 on the before pic. Firstly, getting any extreme CCW rotation or mandibular development at this age is very very rare and unlikely. Also, the ramus is much taller on the 2nd pic. While ramus grows throughout the puberty, seeing any extreme ramus growth like that at 17 is theoretically possible, but also extremely unlikely, even some very small ramus growth at that age is unlikely, but straight up drastic growth is something very very very unlikely. So I think it's 100% fillers or implants.

I posted 2 pictures of his front aswell, where you can see his eyebrows becoming drastically lower set. With puberty, your eyebrows do not become drastically lower set. Yes your browridge develops and becomes more prominent, which might visually make your lower eyebrows seem lower set MAYBE, but a drastic dropdown like he had + straightening of the eyebrows is a really obvious implant IN MY UNPROFESSIONAL OPINION. By really obvious I mean in an analytical context, not that you look at him and that it's obvious in a bad way that he has gotten work done. As I said, I think he looks great and natural.

So if he truly is natural, this is some extreme luck and not replicable by probably 99% of the population.

 

[IDontBlameAnybody]

He also said that palate expander and braces were the reason he ascended so hard, but that makes exactly 0 sense. Neither will palate expander or braces make your jaw wider. Palate expander widens the upper arch, which is mostly completely unrelated to your lower jaw width.

Orthodontics can give you more forward growth in early puberty, but it won't do shit at 16 or 17, and orthodontics will never widen your jaw at any fucking age lmao.

@Ogionth any opinions?
@lurking truecel

 

[Animepilled]

different people

 

[IDontBlameAnybody]

different people

exactly lol, he looks amazing though

 

[Animepilled]

exactly lol, he looks amazing though

yeah the after guy is a 10/10. Probably can't walk around in the street without bitches bothering.

 

[murad.89]

yeah the after guy is a 10/10. Probably can't walk around in the street without bitches bothering.

Maybe its puberty?

 

[Animepilled]

Maybe its puberty?

maybe brother, maybe

 

[murad.89]

yeah the after guy is a 10/10. Probably can't walk around in the street without bitches bothering.

İf he didnt get any surgery then only good option is puberty
Dont know how tho improve bones like that

 

[cutecel1337]

So me and @async had a discussion about Bass (you probably all know who he is).

In my opinion, he 100% got surgery done, @async is kind of 50/50 and thought that puberty might've done it for him and that he got lucky.

Before:
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After:
View attachment 5321411

So me personally, I think the lower third difference is unachievable without any surgical intervention, whether it's implants or fillers.
Also his supras came down so much and got straighter, I think puberty cannot make your dogshit supras high tier supras. That's what I think he got done.

He himself claimed "braces and palate expander" fixed his lower third, but that is bullshit, palate expander won't make your jaw wider and neither do braces.

He does have naturally a really good PFL and lower eyelid. I'm not hating on the guy at all, I like him, he looks really good and I'm happy for him.
What do you think?

Looks like fillers+ he is fraud

 

[ilikefish]

Surgery

 

[vermicel]

I hate those TikTok fraudmaxxers so fucking much.

@IDontBlameAnybody it's IMPOSSIBLE to judge whatever he has done or not to his face because of the constant and extreme fraud involved.
Makeup-fraud
Filter-fraud
Editing-fraud
Angle-fraud
Lighting-fraud
Jutt/clench/cheek-bite/squint-fraud
Hair-fraud
etc.

What is shown in his feed looks nothing like reality. Only the "before" is usually reliable, although those faggots tend to pick the worst ones possible (basically reverse-frauding).

This is a better quality "before" :

And another one, still going through puberty's ugly duckling phase :

The looksmaxxing phase starts :

This is him some time later, already heavily frauding (makeup, filter, angle, hair), but to a lesser extent than his most recent content :

Anyway, while his facial bone structure may have naturally improved in his late teens, you are right, it CANNOT have changed to such a large extent without surgical intervention. The most likely explanation is a mix of fillers and cheek lipo/BFR, as both allow very quick recovery & results. That's usually what these fraudmaxxers go for. Add all the aforementioned frauds on top of that, and you get striking before/after's. But, unless he has a very tight social media timeline ruling out this possibility, DJS and implants could be involved too.
We will never know the truth, unless he comes out with all the info, and/or is caught at least partially unfrauded (as what happened to Nocturnal Kent).

 

[Lookologist003]

always tell whether someone’s had something done if you know what to look for

What is there to look for? Suifuel us who need osteotomies. This lookmaxing needs to look inborn to integrate well into our lackluster personalities.

 

[Aqualad]

What is there to look for? Suifuel us who need osteotomies. This lookmaxing needs to look inborn to integrate well into our lackluster personalities.

im not saying osteotomies look unnatural I had bsso + genio and infraorbital implants and they look great. Im just saying if bass got that much advancement it'd be pretty obvious and his face wouldn't look as harmonious as it currently does, just no

the biggest reason significant advancements dont always mimic a natural skull is because soft tissue doesnt perfectly follow the bone, like the skin fat muscles etc move forward but not in a perfect 1:1 ratio and this is very apparent if you look at DJS results. for example the upper lip might only move forward 40-80% of the maxillary advancement. On top of this bimax moves the maxilla and mandible forward but it doesnt change the bones that normally co-develop with them like brow support or zygomatic arches

this is pretty exaggerated tho most DJS performed by good surgeons are essentially indistinguishable from natural anatomy so i wouldnt worry

 

[ibIameweight]

He just got braces (according to him) but i dont think they should change his lower 3rd THAT much

 

[Aqualad]

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He is 17 on the before pic. Firstly, getting any extreme CCW rotation or mandibular development at this age is very very rare and unlikely. Also, the ramus is much taller on the 2nd pic. While ramus grows throughout the puberty, seeing any extreme ramus growth like that at 17 is theoretically possible, but also extremely unlikely, even some very small ramus growth at that age is unlikely, but straight up drastic growth is something very very very unlikely. So I think it's 100% fillers or implants.

I posted 2 pictures of his front aswell, where you can see his eyebrows becoming drastically lower set. With puberty, your eyebrows do not become drastically lower set. Yes your browridge develops and becomes more prominent, which might visually make your lower eyebrows seem lower set MAYBE, but a drastic dropdown like he had + straightening of the eyebrows is a really obvious implant IN MY UNPROFESSIONAL OPINION. By really obvious I mean in an analytical context, not that you look at him and that it's obvious in a bad way that he has gotten work done. As I said, I think he looks great and natural.

So if he truly is natural, this is some extreme luck and not replicable by probably 99% of the population.

my only guess is filler, i will explain by just showing some chuds who got fillers themself and im sure youll get my point

 

[bornover]

i hate this world

 

[asuframe]

So me and @async had a discussion about Bass (you probably all know who he is).

In my opinion, he 100% got surgery done, @async is kind of 50/50 and thought that puberty might've done it for him and that he got lucky.

Before:
View attachment 5321409
After:
View attachment 5321411

So me personally, I think the lower third difference is unachievable without any surgical intervention, whether it's implants or fillers.
Also his supras came down so much and got straighter, I think puberty cannot make your dogshit supras high tier supras. That's what I think he got done.

He himself claimed "braces and palate expander" fixed his lower third, but that is bullshit, palate expander won't make your jaw wider and neither do braces.

He does have naturally a really good PFL and lower eyelid. I'm not hating on the guy at all, I like him, he looks really good and I'm happy for him.
What do you think?

If you see his side profile he had no ramus and now that’s his strong profile he definitely got surgery

 

[midfacedeficient]

I hate those TikTok fraudmaxxers so fucking much.

@IDontBlameAnybody it's IMPOSSIBLE to judge whatever he has done or not to his face because of the constant and extreme fraud involved.
Makeup-fraud
Filter-fraud
Editing-fraud
Angle-fraud
Lighting-fraud
Jutt/clench/cheek-bite/squint-fraud
Hair-fraud
etc.

What is shown in his feed looks nothing like reality. Only the "before" is usually reliable, although those faggots tend to pick the worst ones possible (basically reverse-frauding).

This is a better quality "before" :

View attachment 5322451

And another one, still going through puberty's ugly duckling phase :

View attachment 5322491

The looksmaxxing phase starts :

View attachment 5322570

This is him some time later, already heavily frauding (makeup, filter, angle, hair), but to a lesser extent than his most recent content :

View attachment 5322514

Anyway, while his facial bone structure may have naturally improved in his late teens, you are right, it CANNOT have changed to such a large extent without surgical intervention. The most likely explanation is a mix of fillers and cheek lipo/BFR, as both allow very quick recovery & results. That's usually what these fraudmaxxers go for. Add all the aforementioned frauds on top of that, and you get striking before/after's. But, unless he has a very tight social media timeline ruling out this possibility, DJS and implants could be involved too.
We will never know the truth, unless he comes out with all the info, and/or is caught at least partially unfrauded (as what happened to Nocturnal Kent).

one of these fraudmaxsters needs to give a tutorial on how to do all that

 

[iblamezyg0s]

my only guess is filler, i will explain by just showing some chuds who got fillers themself and im sure youll get my point

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Damn, didn't know fillers can do all that change, but what about the migration?

 

[lurking truecel]

Damn, didn't know fillers can do all that change, but what about the migration?

You can prob do fillers for 20 years before it migrates

 

[lurking truecel]

Obv the jaw is edited more narrow here

This is a closer up selfie so his jaw shoukd be more narrow, but it is as wide as it is now.

The only change is long hair and clear skin. Slight filler touch up. But most of genetics so no need to study

 

[IDontBlameAnybody]

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Obv the jaw is edited more narrow here
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This is a closer up selfie so his jaw shoukd be more narrow, but it is as wide as it is now.

The only change is long hair and clear skin. Slight filler touch up. But most of genetics so no need to study

Imo the main thing is his supras, his supras changed so much, scroll up you can see how much they dropped and changed shape. Look at the first before and after I posted of his document photo.

 

[iblamezyg0s]

Imo the main thing is his supras, his supras changed so much, scroll up you can see how much they dropped and changed shape. Look at the first before and after I posted of his document photo.

Maybe fat grafting or implants

 

[polubinski]

Better he fix teeth

 

[klqa]

Super gay

 

[hypergamousmoidinal]

You can prob do fillers for 20 years before it migrates

i have never heard of this. Does the repeated use of fillers weaken your tissue or something? Everyone i know who has done jaw/chin filler has had zero migration issues

 

[lurking truecel]

i have never heard of this. Does the repeated use of fillers weaken your tissue or something? Everyone i know who has done jaw/chin filler has had zero migration issues

I mean ifnyoubdont overfill you never have amy problems, but after 20 years your tissue obv wont hold together overall

 

[Lookologist003]

His brow is weak as hell. He needs that fringe to look decent. He needs a big fringe that looks stupid. Usually if we can't see the parts of the face, we assume that the brow is as strong as the jawline. But that isn't always the case. This is why guys who have shit temporal plane angles can have their appeal stolen by a gust of wind.

So with a low angle of view in passport photography where his hair obscures just the right places, looks slayer.

 

[IDontBlameAnybody]

His brow is weak as hell. He needs that fringe to look decent. He needs a big fringe that looks stupid. Usually if we can't see the parts of the face, we assume that the brow is as strong as the jawline. But that isn't always the case.

So with a low angle of view in passport photography where his hair obscures just the right places, looks slayer.

Nah I don’t think it is weak at all. You can clearly see that his eyebrows came a lot more lower set, you can’t really fraud that on a document photo like that.

 

[Lookologist003]

Nah I don’t think it is weak at all. You can clearly see that his eyebrows came a lot more lower set, you can’t really fraud that on a document photo like that.

You're misunderstanding. The hair covers his temple bones and the "tail of the browbone". A strong brow bone is what makes chadly eye areas look as such. So the biggest part of the ascension was finding out how to frame his face, because his brow is not as chadly as his cheekbones or jaw. Finding out how to frame his face meant tossing hair over the sides of his head to hide his weak browbone.

 

[IDontBlameAnybody]

You're misunderstanding. The hair covers his temple bones and the "tail of the browbone" which is what makes chadly eye areas look as such. So the biggest part of the ascension was finding out how to frame his face, because his brow is not as chadly as his cheekbones or jaw. Finding out how to frame his face meant tossing hair over the sides of his head.

i mean yeah the hair alters the eyebrow shape and maybe frauds a little, but you can so clearly see the eyebrows are physically lower set.

Even on his other photos. Maybe he frauds. Maybe ur right lol I’m kinda losing hope in myself rn, I think I should find something better to do now