Being a psl authist and having surgery is not it

[Deleted member 165250]

but- but OBO

 

[Lefor3Laser]

if you want the best angularity you need implants for zygos , hard to recreate the same angularity with fillers you'll be bloated soon with constant use but you can always dissolve ofc so both options are decent depends if you are willing to get constantly touch ups with fillers or not. One thing is that implants come with much more risk and if you don't like them for any reason it will be a pain in the ass to deal with

Am sorry but my female cousin did the fillers to my cousin and it looked realistical and angular even after months.

 

[Lefor3Laser]

What’s your opinion on eye color depigmentation with laser

Risky and not worth it, yet.

 

[Sicilian Cyclops]

For jaw you just need small implants actually, if you look at any CT, they don't have extremely flared gonions, just a bit flared, then the muscles aka masseters play the big part.

"NOOOOH BRO I NEEID PIZZA SLAICES DRILLED ONTO MAI SKUELL TO BECUM GEOMETRIC OBJEKT SO THAEN I CAEN BE SUPER CHAED PSL ULTRA GOD"

 

[sham66]

Am sorry but my female cousin did the fillers to my cousin and it looked realistical and angular even after months.

did ya get it yet my brother?

 

[ltn_looksminner]

Risky and not worth it, yet.

Why ? I heard there’s no case of blindness , for a t50 cel i think it’s worth it no?

 

[Deleted member 228717]

Risky and not worth it, yet.

I asked to the one in barcelona or smth and they say it's safe you say that because of anectodes or are there some ufficial info somewhere? I didn't expect them to be completely honest ofc

 

[AustrianMogger]

The good results usually aren't on the internet to see.

Yes easier and more performed procedures have a higher level of success, but take into consideration that anything could still happen, even if it is performed 1000 times, there's no surgeon without botches, the one's who don't have any should not be trusted or they just started (this excludes the requests of patients).

For a reliable ascension, you need to forget your goals you want to reach most of the times since many of them are not possible and risky (bad ROI and many more), go for something realistic and conservative and always take in mind that a botch is possible, even if it's a tooth extraction, bone graft or anything like that.

About giant, the red flag about him is that he calls himself perfect, a good surgeon/designer doesn't call himself the best of the best and also talks about risks and his past botches (depends on how many botches) , this is also a surgeon you can trust.

The key is to just ascend few things and don't think about the rest, know when to stop and always do semi conservative moves, a failed expectation is better than a botched face wich can't be fixed anymore.

Also welcome back lurkingcel

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[LEFORT17]

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the last pic edited or is this a real person

 

[AustrianMogger]

You guys are all to riskaverse.
Truth is either gamble in life or loose anyways.
A life of 60 years at normie smv is not worth even 1 second as chadlite.
The reward is exponential.
Can you get botched?
Sure
Can you die?
Sure
But then again even worst surgerys have decent sucessrates.
Even 1% chance of sucess is worse then 0.

 

[Deleted member 228717]

You guys are all to riskaverse.
Truth is either gamble in life or loose anyways.
A life of 60 years at normie smv is not worth even 1 second as chadlite.
The reward is exponential.
Can you get botched?
Sure
Can you die?
Sure
But then again even worst surgerys have decent sucessrates.
Even 1% chance of sucess is worse then 0.

very low black and white thinking tbh you wan't to optimize your surgeries by having the highest return with lowest risk

 

[Lefor3Laser]

did ya get it yet my brother?

Still waiting for my female cousin to come, since my relatives moved back to the country and will get a shop she'll come when the shop is ready.

But probably will get it sooner at a clinic if my family business works.

 

[Lefor3Laser]

I asked to the one in barcelona or smth and they say it's safe you say that because of anectodes or are there some ufficial info somewhere? I didn't expect them to be completely honest ofc

Not anecdotal, i remember people who did it saying that they had their eyes very sensitive when coming in contact with the light.

 

[Deleted member 228717]

Not anecdotal, i remember people who did it saying that they had their eyes very sensitive when coming in contact with the light.

Sounds very reasonable tbh

 

[ltn_looksminner]

You guys are all to riskaverse.
Truth is either gamble in life or loose anyways.
A life of 60 years at normie smv is not worth even 1 second as chadlite.
The reward is exponential.
Can you get botched?
Sure
Can you die?
Sure
But then again even worst surgerys have decent sucessrates.
Even 1% chance of sucess is worse then 0.

Mogs me

 

[Sicilian Cyclops]

the last pic edited or is this a real person

real. i think he posted on the lookism days, there are other pics of him.

 

[sham66]

Still waiting for my female cousin to come, since my relatives moved back to the country and will get a shop she'll come when the shop is ready.

But probably will get it sooner at a clinic if my family business works.

oo i see. i hope the fillers mog, lmk how it goes!

 

[adarsh arya]

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isnt this design was done by giant implants ?

 

[Skry]

In 4-5 years we'll be saying different stuff, remember even trimax was considered crazy to do for aesthetics not that long ago. It's dangerous and risky now because it's a relatively new concept and if you do it now you're basically the guinea pig for surgeons and designers to practice their craft.. but eventually they WILL get good, and surgeons around the world will hop on the bandwagon and make it safer and more reputable, cuz they want autist looksmaxxer money.

 

[Josesito]

If you actually want to ascend safely and without being botched. You want to play with the surgeries that are regularly performed and have a high reliability. For example with a rhinoplasty, some things are possible but not regularly performed which makes it risky. Doing a leforte 2+ and obo is not done regularly so the risk is not worth it. Even paranasal with rhino is not performed often so its risky to get a good result. Doing jaw implants is risky because not many surgeon do it and is good with it. (If it was good many good results would be out there)

Its basically just logic, the more rare the surgery the higher the botch rate as their are no data on it and recalibrating from surgeons. Sure you can allways hope and be the "test case" but is it worth it?

I think for a good and reliable ascension you want to look at before and after from common procedures and play with those as your cards on hand and do the best possible with those.

And allways know that a surgeon who doesnt have result on their website or socials is hiding something and is not proud of their result. This is not true all the time but most of the time. Thats why giant is red flag for example. Its like a good looking dude wouldn't hide behind his screen and not show himself if people asked for it, esp if it is a relevant and important situation.

But the thing is i think no guy is ugly enough that doing the normal and commonly done surgeries like fat graft, rhino, infras, maybe jaw implants, normal bimax, cantho, lower eyelid repair, bleoh, genio, genio glossus, chin implant, brow lift, braces, segmental, fme cant ascend enough

Hey bro, how can I get in contact you with you, do you sell any service or ratings? Need some help before I proceed surgery maxxing

 

[smartstyle]

In 4-5 years we'll be saying different stuff, remember even trimax was considered crazy to do for aesthetics not that long ago. It's dangerous and risky now because it's a relatively new concept and if you do it now you're basically the guinea pig for surgeons and designers to practice their craft.. but eventually they WILL get good, and surgeons around the world will hop on the bandwagon and make it safer and more reputable, cuz they want autist looksmaxxer money.

Trimax is just bimax with genioplasty. Most of good surgeons do it all the time.

Implants are kinda still rare though, I found only maybe 2-3 supra implants results on internet.

 

[Skry]

Trimax is just bimax with genioplasty. Most of good surgeons do it all the time.

Implants are kinda still rare though, I found only maybe 2-3 supra implants results on internet.

I know that, but you are forgetting the past if you think that it's not a new thing for normal looking people to easily get jaw surgery at all. Used to be it was generally only recommended to people who had functional issues, then it started being popular for those with recession, nowadays you can easily get it if you have a little money, even if you look "normal", lots of surgeons will let you do it for mogger projection. Genio itself has been seen as pretty low risk and easy to get for forever now but even then, there was a time when plastic surgeons would just give you an implant and ruin your structure instead
According to google the first lefort 1 osteotomy was a century ago, lots of progress has been made since then especially recently. I have no doubt in my mind both LF2/3 and eye area implants will become popularized in the future.

 

[lurking truecel]

I know that, but you are forgetting the past if you think that it's not a new thing for normal looking people to easily get jaw surgery at all. Used to be it was generally only recommended to people who had functional issues, then it started being popular for those with recession, nowadays you can easily get it if you have a little money, even if you look "normal", lots of surgeons will let you do it for mogger projection. Genio itself has been seen as pretty low risk and easy to get for forever now but even then, there was a time when plastic surgeons would just give you an implant and ruin your structure instead
According to google the first lefort 1 osteotomy was a century ago, lots of progress has been made since then especially recently. I have no doubt in my mind both LF2/3 and eye area implants will become popularized in the future.

Its not easy to get jaw surgery, most surgeon will def not do it for just a slight improvement unless you pay 20k+ with a black pilled money hungry surgeon from this site. Mogger projection is cope, if you dont have functional issues or extreme sfs or something. You should never get it, having braces for a 2 years and being in recovery for atleast 6 months where you are swollen and all the risks that happens all the time. You need to be mentally retarded if you get bimax when you aren't a obvious case. And lf2/lf3 will not be popular in the near future. Those are 12+ hour surgeries

 

[LEFORT17]

Its not easy to get jaw surgery, most surgeon will def not do it for just a slight improvement unless you pay 20k+ with a black pilled money hungry surgeon from this site. Mogger projection is cope, if you dont have functional issues or extreme sfs or something. You should never get it, having braces for a 2 years and being in recovery for atleast 6 months where you are swollen and all the risks that happens all the time. You need to be mentally retarded if you get bimax when you aren't a obvious case. And lf2/lf3 will not be popular in the near future. Those are 12+ hour surgeries

6 months post surgery swelling is pretty unlikely, obv its different from person to person and you also got infras.

 

[Skry]

Its not easy to get jaw surgery, most surgeon will def not do it for just a slight improvement unless you pay 20k+ with a black pilled money hungry surgeon from this site. Mogger projection is cope, if you dont have functional issues or extreme sfs or something. You should never get it, having braces for a 2 years and being in recovery for atleast 6 months where you are swollen and all the risks that happens all the time. You need to be mentally retarded if you get bimax when you aren't a obvious case. And lf2/lf3 will not be popular in the near future. Those are 12+ hour surgeries

Well we have different definitions of easy, cause to me even if I was broke, it's just 20k lol. Looks are literally priceless, you only get to live once. Difficult is when you search the whole world and cant find any good surgeon willing to operate (which is probably what it was like 50 years ago for people without medical problems). If you can literally just show up with money and half decent surgeons like ramieri will make the effort to ascend you, thats pretty easy.

 

[DonaldJTrump]

6 months post surgery swelling is pretty unlikely, obv its different from person to person and you also got infras.

6 months swelling is normal, u need to wait a year to see how u truly look

Its not easy to get jaw surgery, most surgeon will def not do it for just a slight improvement unless you pay 20k+ with a black pilled money hungry surgeon from this site. Mogger projection is cope, if you dont have functional issues or extreme sfs or something. You should never get it, having braces for a 2 years and being in recovery for atleast 6 months where you are swollen and all the risks that happens all the time. You need to be mentally retarded if you get bimax when you aren't a obvious case. And lf2/lf3 will not be popular in the near future. Those are 12+ hour surgeries

OP what surgeries have u done so far

 

[lurking truecel]

6 months swelling is normal, u need to wait a year to see how u truly look

OP what surgeries have u done so far

Bimax + infra and yea for most people after bimax they have swelling 6 months post op