Being clingy/desperate is not a real concept

[LightSkinNoob]

When I started learning about dating, I learnt about “abundance mindset” and how one should “act” in dating to display high SMV or the illusion of it.

One of the key tactics of frauding “abundance mindset” is to be sporadic with response frequency, seem disengaged, and rarely making the first move, or chasing, when the women is already attracted to you/it has been established.

Anecdotally, I’ve realised this is bullshit, if a women is attracted to you, you can be all of the above, as long as it matches her vibe/level of interest, especially in the modern generation, girls love “whirlwind” “toxic” type encounters where the hot guy is crazy, obsessive and clingy to an extent.

Just look at the music that women listen to (zoomer girls) and Netflix shows, it’s literally unspoken to fucking/obsessed with each other within days, my experiences relate to this, the relationship dies pretty fast after, but it’s easy to nail this dynamic with charisma.

Thoughts?

 

[Deleted member 15854]

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[Deleted member 15854]

When I started learning about dating, I learnt about “abundance mindset” and how one should “act” in dating to display high SMV or the illusion of it.

One of the key tactics of frauding “abundance mindset” is to be sporadic with response frequency, seem disengaged, and rarely making the first move, or chasing, when the women is already attracted to you/it has been established.

Anecdotally, I’ve realised this is bullshit, if a women is attracted to you, you can be all of the above, as long as it matches her vibe/level of interest, especially in the modern generation, girls love “whirlwind” “toxic” type encounters where the hot guy is crazy, obsessive and clingy to an extent.

Just look at the music that women listen to (zoomer girls) and Netflix shows, it’s literally unspoken to fucking/obsessed with each other within days, my experiences relate to this, the relationship dies pretty fast after, but it’s easy to nail this dynamic with charisma.

Thoughts?

na jk, good thread and i agree

 

[Deleted member 24940]

High IQ post.

I've noticed this too. In every popular Netflix show the Chad guy is literally obsessed with the average looking girl and showers her with affection and obsession.

Women are NOT attracted to abundance mentality, they just are attracted to Chad. Usually these Chads have abundance mentality naturally because they have so many options and this makes women mad and that's why they complain about fuck boys.

Women hate abundance mentality, they just like Chad and try to deal with it and make him obsessed with them.

 

[JovenCansao]

It always comes down to looks
A Chad obsessed with a woman? Romantic
An incel obsessed with a woman? Pathetic with no other options

 

[LightSkinNoob]

It always comes down to looks
A Chad obsessed with a woman? Romantic
An incel obsessed with a woman? Pathetic with no other options

Of course, however most girls, would appreciate an obsessive chad over a disinterested chad, at least younger less jaded women.

 

[darkness97]

Of course, however most girls, would appreciate an obsessive chad over a disinterested chad, at least younger less jaded women.

interesting, however the way i approach relationships is to not give the women a reason to be weirded out or afraid of you.
i can understand the logic here but the pattern that you are drawing here isn't a recipe for success. feigning obsession that is not existent is a lame strat but guys here barely give a fuck so it may ironically help them. you're definition of obsession may not actually be obsession but just people who like each other a lot.

obsession for some people here may be actually texting and calling the women they are interested in haha. drawing a dating strat from a tv depicting a 99% percentile chad isn't the best idea. in your IRL scenarios it was most likely pretty tame and normal in the beginning. obsession and emotions usually come later naturally so it isn't a question of if this strat will be implemented but when based on a users self control.

i would rather just let people do whatever the feel is right in a situation.

 

[JovenCansao]

Of course, however most girls, would appreciate an obsessive chad over a disinterested chad, at least younger less jaded women.

Would it be a turn of to act this way with multiple girls?

 

[LightSkinNoob]

interesting, however the way i approach relationships is to not give the women a reason to be weirded out or afraid of you.
i can understand the logic here but the pattern that you are drawing here isn't a recipe for success. feigning obsession that is not existent is a lame strat but guys here barely give a fuck so it may ironically help them. you're definition of obsession may not actually be obsession but just people who like each other a lot.

obsession for some people here may be actually texting and calling the women they are interested in haha. drawing a dating strat from a tv depicting a 99% percentile chad isn't the best idea. in your IRL scenarios it was most likely pretty tame and normal in the beginning. obsession and emotions usually come later naturally so it isn't a question of if this strat will be implemented but when based on a users self control.

i would rather just let people do whatever the feel is right in a situation.

I like this response; it shows that with any take on dating, nuance exists; through my experience, if you gauge a women's interest as wanting to hang out with u (have sex), you can take the strategy of making her believe most of your attention subtly is on her, I found anything insulating I'm hanging out with other girls, turns the women I'm with off, they know I have options due to my looks, no reason to brag.

Obsession creates sexual excitement; when you get them in bed, the sex is way more enjoyable for them; women, create a story/context where they are the main character, and sex is the central character moment; you help build that illusion by feigning the obsession, even if you don't feel at all.

The obsession to me is vulnerability combined with wittiness, which allows a girl to let her guard down entirely and invest in you as quickly as she invested in her first-ever partner; that guy imprinted her, of course, to a much smaller extent.

 

[LightSkinNoob]

Would it be a turn of to act this way with multiple girls?

You do it to every girl, but of course don't mention that fact.

 

[Deleted member 21735]

imagine having to analyze dating, a natural human process, so much lmao

 

[Deleted member 24940]

however the way i approach relationships is to not give the women a reason to be weirded out or afraid of you.

The most popular Romance Netflix show for the last 3 years was about a literal stalker psychopath Chad. Every girl you know has watched this series.



Women like clingy men like OP said, as long as it's Chad.

 

[Deleted member 24940]

Obsession creates sexual excitement;

Its so effective of a manipulation tactic that psychologists even invented a term for it.

It's called "love bombing", google it for more info if you want. It's very interesting topic and very effective in women if they like you.

 

[darkness97]

The most popular Romance Netflix show for the last 3 years was about a literal stalker psychopath Chad.

what about this reply a refute to what i just said?

do you think that as someone who isn't joegoldberg you should obsess and stalk women, and let them know you're doing it to elicit excitement?

this only works if you're significantly more attractive than the girl your obsessing over hence having to feign obsessiveness.

obsession is pretty normal to an extent from both men and women which is why i didn't bash it immediately. but i dont really know to be honest. it comes naturally overtime when you feel like you found something unique that you don't want to lose. my advice was, ajlsdjk never mind

 

[darkness97]

Its so effective of a manipulation tactic that psychologists even invented a term for it.

It's called "love bombing", google it for more info if you want. It's very interesting topic and very effective in women if they like you.

love bombing isn't obsession, and you are misquoting the tactic. love bombing usually happens after incredibly toxic and abusive behavior that creates a cycle of resolution and conflict that creates a very toxic dynamic. the people who do that have no idea what love bombing even is and do it naturally. which is why i say do whatever feels right.

playing an act to be in a relationship isn't the way to go, just be urself unironically.

 

[Gonthar]

When I started learning about dating, I learnt about “abundance mindset” and how one should “act” in dating to display high SMV or the illusion of it.

One of the key tactics of frauding “abundance mindset” is to be sporadic with response frequency, seem disengaged, and rarely making the first move, or chasing, when the women is already attracted to you/it has been established.

There is no mindset for your face. There is no purpose for your height. There is no hobbies for your race. - IncelTV.

 

[Deleted member 24940]

love bombing isn't obsession, and you are misquoting the tactic. love bombing usually happens after incredibly toxic and abusive behavior that creates a cycle of resolution and conflict that creates a very toxic dynamic. the people who do that have no idea what love bombing even is and do it naturally. which is why i say do whatever feels right.

playing an act to be in a relationship isn't the way to go, just be urself unironically.

Yes it is. Love bombing literally means bombing the girl you just recently met with affection, attention, and love.

 

[Deleted member 24940]

what about this reply a refute to what i just said?

do you think that as someone who isn't joegoldberg you should obsess and stalk women, and let them know you're doing it to elicit excitement?

this only works if you're significantly more attractive than the girl your obsessing over hence having to feign obsessiveness.

obsession is pretty normal to an extent from both men and women which is why i didn't bash it immediately. but i dont really know to be honest. it comes naturally overtime when you feel like you found something unique that you don't want to lose. my advice was, ajlsdjk never mind

Acting aloof only works if your Chad. Love bombing works if your a normie.

 

[Alton]

I am so sorry to be pessimistic, but when you are good-looking, you can get away with most things with relative ease - this very matter is just a small glimpse into the life of attractive people.

When I started learning about dating, I learnt about “abundance mindset” and how one should “act” in dating to display high SMV or the illusion of it.

One of the key tactics of frauding “abundance mindset” is to be sporadic with response frequency, seem disengaged, and rarely making the first move, or chasing, when the women is already attracted to you/it has been established.

Anecdotally, I’ve realised this is bullshit, if a women is attracted to you, you can be all of the above, as long as it matches her vibe/level of interest, especially in the modern generation, girls love “whirlwind” “toxic” type encounters where the hot guy is crazy, obsessive and clingy to an extent.

Just look at the music that women listen to (zoomer girls) and Netflix shows, it’s literally unspoken to fucking/obsessed with each other within days, my experiences relate to this, the relationship dies pretty fast after, but it’s easy to nail this dynamic with charisma.

Thoughts?