Being skinny and lean unironically looks better than being big and lean

[AstroSky]

So I've been looking at the covers of all the best selling romance novels, and none of them show the guy on the cover.

It's really only the cheap smutty novels, that don't sell super well, and hire some roided guy with tattoos to be on their cover.

So, that makes me think that women's preferences vary considerable, which is why there can't be any specific guy on the covers of the best selling romance novels.

I know I've seen a lot of different builds do extremely well for Chad-fish accounts, not only the roided ones but some skinny builds as well.

If people stop comparing two different people and start look at themselves as the comparison this wouldnt be so confusing, take you skinny, now fix your frame and build some muscle you now mog the old you. That's why this argument has been going on for so long, the mental mindset of looking at others as the comparison is what makes this such a COGNITIVE DISSONANCE shit show, a ugly guy with a better body MOGS his preself regardless if he is still UGLY the concept of saying BUT HES NOT MODEL THOOOOo look at this guy he mogs is pointless, we are asking what looks better and half the time people are not showing someone BEFORE they worked out but rather who they currently are, even the guys people show off here with a good body fail to realize they don't naturally look like that either they are playing a sport, doing pushups and pullups, working out basically,. The only fair point you could make is find someone who sits on their ass all day and just passively exits and he is fucking ripped and fit them I'll shut the fuck up but guess what IT DOESNT EXIST. The spectrum is do nothing and you will look shit , be active and you will look better, workout and you will look strong and better, roid out and you will look massive but STILL BETTER than you who never did anything active. 1-10 on how much effort you wish to put into it, but dont think chads are at level 1 and somehow look level 10 naturally its a cope. They are playing sports and working out just like the rest of us, they just are not eating alot to gain muscle like body builders.

 

[Deleted member 15778]

If people stop comparing two different people and start look at themselves as the comparison this wouldnt be so confusing, take you skinny, now fix your frame and build some muscle you now mog the old you. That's why this argument has been going on for so long, the mental mindset of looking at others as the comparison is what makes this such a COGNITIVE DISSONANCE shit show, a ugly guy with a better body MOGS his preself

What we're discussing here, is what counts as a "better body"

regardless if he is still UGLY the concept of saying BUT HES NOT MODEL THOOOOo

I never said that.

look at this guy he mogs is pointless,

I never said that either.

we are asking what looks better and half the time people are not showing someone BEFORE they worked out but rather who they currently are, even the guys people show off here with a good body fail to realize they don't naturally look like that either they are playing a sport, doing pushups and pullups, working out basically,. The only fair point you could make is find someone who sits on their ass all day and just passively exits and he is fucking ripped and fit them I'll shut the fuck up but guess what IT DOESNT EXIST.

When I say "Skinny build" I'm still talking about guys who exercise and lift. Skinny build is a guy who works out, has other aspects of his health on point, but doesn't do steroids or have good muscle building genetics.

The spectrum is do nothing and you will look shit , be active and you will look better, workout and you will look strong and better, roid out and you will look massive but STILL BETTER than you who never did anything active.

1-10 on how much effort you wish to put into it, but dont think chads are at level 1 and somehow look level 10 naturally its a cope. They are playing sports and working out just like the rest of us, they just are not eating alot to gain muscle like body builders.

I'm completely aware of this.

The only question is, do you need to do roids to reach your maximum SMV, or can you reach it playing sports and/or lifting/exercising?

There are no Chads that don't exercise, but my point is there are Chads that don't do steroids, aka "skinny build".

Take Tom Hiddleston for example, many girls like his build. He does running, jumping, pushing, pulling, and lifting. It's very unlikely that he does steroids. Or Benedict Cumberbatch, another skinny build. He does weight lifting, calistenics/body building exercises, and yoga, but my point is he still lifts. He however, likely doesn't do steroids.

I could go on and on with guys that probably don't do steroids, that women still swoon for. The question is, would those guys get more girls if they did steroids?

Maybe, but I'm not sure the answer is so clear. They might even do worse.

 

[AstroSky]

What we're discussing here, is what counts as a "better body"


I never said that.

I never said that either.


When I say "Skinny build" I'm still talking about guys who exercise and lift. Skinny build is a guy who works out, has other aspects of his health on point, but doesn't do steroids or have good muscle building genetics.




I'm completely aware of this.

The only question is, do you need to do roids to reach your maximum SMV, or can you reach it playing sports and/or lifting/exercising?

There are no Chads that don't exercise, but my point is there are Chads that don't do steroids, aka "skinny build".

Take Tom Hiddleston for example, many girls like his build. He does running, jumping, pushing, pulling, and lifting. It's very unlikely that he does steroids. Or Benedict Cumberbatch, another skinny build. He does weight lifting, calistenics/body building exercises, and yoga, but my point is he still lifts. He however, likely doesn't do steroids.

I could go on and on with guys that probably don't do steroids, that women still swoon for. The question is, would those guys get more girls if they did steroids?

Maybe, but I'm not sure the answer is so clear. They might even do worse.

It depends on how they look, if you are ogre naturally, you will become very ogre after roid, I started out pretty boy to cute before working out roid just pushed into something More masc but I still have my hairline thick hair and good skin and good bones. It aged me but I wouldn't say it was a bad thing as women and the amazing girl I'm with seems to respond positive to muscle she is saying I'm at the right size right now where its not too much and she suggests I stop trying to get bigger now and instead just lean up if I wanna be even better I went from 156lbs to 210 thats almost 50 pounds of weight with most being muscle I believe lots here have good wiggle room with out it being a issue.

 

[Deleted member 15778]

It depends on how they look, if you are ogre naturally, you will become very ogre after roid, I started out pretty boy to cute before working out roid just pushed into something More masc but I still have my hairline thick hair and good skin and good bones. It aged me but I wouldn't say it was a bad thing as women and the amazing girl I'm with seems to respond positive to muscle she is saying I'm at the right size right now where its not too much and she suggests I stop trying to get bigger now and instead just lean up if I wanna be even better I went from 156lbs to 210 thats almost 50 pounds of weight with most being muscle I believe lots here have good wiggle room with out it being a issue.

I guess the question is, would it be possible for you to achieve that without illegal hormone use.

For example cycling legal anabolics with compounds that decrease mystatin and Laxogenin for example which may promote muscle in humans, creatine which has been shown to increase muscle mass beyond the amount you can consume from food, and other things. Plus optimizing nutrition for muscle building.

My belief is that ideal might be in the range of what's legally possible, without a prescription for steroids, or illegally steroid use.

 

[AstroSky]

I guess the question is, would it be possible for you to achieve that without illegal hormone use.

For example cycling legal anabolics with compounds that decrease mystatin and Laxogenin for example which may promote muscle in humans, creatine which has been shown to increase muscle mass beyond the amount you can consume from food, and other things. Plus optimizing nutrition for muscle building.

My belief is that ideal for most average and attractive women, is close to what is legally achievable without exogenous hormones.

I personally don't have legal issues as i use testosterone legally prescribed my levels is 1300 on avg without much fluctuations.

 

[Deleted member 15778]

I personally don't have legal issues as i use testosterone legally prescribed my levels is 1300 on avg without much fluctuations.

Even if it's technically legal, you're still frauding your T-levels by staying up all night or whatever you do before the test, so that you can get it prescribed. Or you found an extremely shadey doctor.

 

[AstroSky]

Even if it's technically legal, you're still frauding your T-levels by staying up all night or whatever you do before the test, so that you can get it prescribed.

I didnt have to do that and it's not frauded. I'm almost 30 lol. Most body builders are blasting themselves into the range of 3000 NG/dl to look even half my size. 1300 is peak natty levels in an ideal world. Just my opinion though. Anything higher is overkill

 

[the atrain]

 

[AstroSky]

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Good ole jack. Years of training. Though he's made some progress recently

 

[the atrain]

Good ole jack. Years of training. Though he's made some progress recently

On mk-667 and fails to bench 50kgs over for him he will never be big or ascend

 

[AstroSky]

On mk-667 and fails to bench 50kgs over for him he will never be big or ascend

They said the same about me.......yet here I am.