believing in god is genuinely comical, think about it

[134applesauce456]

Why

how old was Muhammad's wife?

 

[zhilwan_]

it wasn’t created accidentally, Muhammad knew what he was doing. From the Catholic Church perspective it was definitely not what they wanted.

This is exactly why I find Muslims to be extremely retarded. They give the Quran, a book that was written a 1000 something years after the old testament and 500 years after the new testament more credit while all it does is copy and change the story to fit Muhammad made perspective.

Christ was not just a messenger, he was the son of God and he didn’t call people to worship “allah”, he called the Israelites only.

Islam is a fake joke of a religion and Muslims are so cringe

Firstly there is zero serious historical evidence that the Catholic Church created Islam and Islam was a byproduct of Catholic Church
Islam does not copy the bible it just corrects and restores earlier revelations that were altered over time
Yes Islam emerges later if it were copying it wouldn’t reject the trinity or crucifixion and plus Islam contradicts the foundation of Christianity
Christianity said Jesus was not just the messenger of God he was the son
Islam said Jesus was a prophet not a divine
And Islam said worships belongs to one God alone NOT JESUS

 

[zhilwan_]

how old was Muhammad's wife?

Basically yes aishah was 9 when Muhammad married here but in the ancient world puberty = adulthood
And for some extra knowledge Mary the mother of Jesus was known to be 12-14

 

[zhilwan_]

Got anything to say now I’m willing to hear. Just trying to prove Islam is the one and only true religion

 

[Deleted member 22511]

what kind of god allows miscarriages and rape

God doesn't just "allow" it, he made it happen.
That baby probably rejected the holy spirit and rape isn't real lol try harder next time

 

[Incelforeever]

Firstly there is zero serious historical evidence that the Catholic Church created Islam and Islam was a byproduct of Catholic Church
Islam does not copy the bible it just corrects and restores earlier revelations that were altered over time
Yes Islam emerges later if it were copying it wouldn’t reject the trinity or crucifixion and plus Islam contradicts the foundation of Christianity
Christianity said Jesus was not just the messenger of God he was the son
Islam said Jesus was a prophet not a divine
And Islam said worships belongs to one God alone NOT JESUS

This is what a Muslim brain fails to understand. Ur entire book takes things from the previous books and changes them sometimes a little bit, sometimes more than a little bit.

Even so, the words that u used “it just corrects and restores earlier revelations that were altered over time” according to who u? The Quran of courses. The Quran says the bible was corrupted and guess who also came to fix the alleged corruption? The Quran how can people for that bullshit lol.

Anyways it doesn’t matter what Christianity said, it matters what’s written in the bible. The bible is a book only for the Israelites. Christ said “I only came to the lost sheep of the house of Israel” he didn’t come for u, much less desert niggas.

Point being, the Quran came about 600 years after the New Testament. It has no authority to “restore/correct” the bible. No chance. If some bibles were altered as u might argue, we have other copies so it’s all good and we can figure out what’s the alternate version and fix it

 

[death2foids]

Proving God existence by saying this xoxo

this might be top 3 most retarded responses oat

 

[iblamexyz]

this might be top 3 most retarded responses oat

stfu grey go back to tik tok

 

[maxx92765]

Fuck God hasnt done shit for me

JFL

 

[nonstop]

it takes a TRUE idiot to believe in it

most people only follow it to cope, or for the morals, they think the morals that come with is good

or for simple philosophy, and live by it metaphorically

or just in case, they don’t wanna get thrown in hell

but imagine the idiots that genuinely believe and supposedly truly “love” god. it’s nearly impossible to love something you can’t truly sense, purely psychologically and biologically, so for you to convince yourself that hard it takes a lot of effort and stupidity, mirin dedication nonetheless.

Coping that religion is cope is just cope.

 

[Banana ★ 🍌]

it takes a TRUE idiot to believe in it

most people only follow it to cope, or for the morals, they think the morals that come with is good

or for simple philosophy, and live by it metaphorically

or just in case, they don’t wanna get thrown in hell

but imagine the idiots that genuinely believe and supposedly truly “love” god. it’s nearly impossible to love something you can’t truly sense, purely psychologically and biologically, so for you to convince yourself that hard it takes a lot of effort and stupidity, mirin dedication nonetheless.

I feel like “pizza gate” and the “epstine files” kind of confirmed Christianity with all the demonic stuff there doing

 

[Deleted member 337128]

god makes a LOT of sense if you view him as a bored psychopath who creates hellish conditions for entertainment

 

[Deleted member 86840]

Coping that religion is cope is just cope.

ur retarded

 

[Deleted member 86840]

god makes a LOT of sense if you view him as a bored psychopath who creates hellish conditions for entertainment

true. i used to see it like that

 

[NatureEnjoyer_]

Dnr and also You’re a retard

 

[Gamerspyy786]

it takes a TRUE idiot to believe in it

most people only follow it to cope, or for the morals, they think the morals that come with is good

or for simple philosophy, and live by it metaphorically

or just in case, they don’t wanna get thrown in hell

but imagine the idiots that genuinely believe and supposedly truly “love” god. it’s nearly impossible to love something you can’t truly sense, purely psychologically and biologically, so for you to convince yourself that hard it takes a lot of effort and stupidity, mirin dedication nonetheless.

Sounds like an emotional response to your understanding of the world. You made zero real arguments to your claim that God doesn’t exist.


I highly recommend you go on a real spiritual journey. Not some monk Buddhist thing, but get on your knees tonight and sincerely as God to show you the truth.

 

[Deleted member 86840]

Sounds like an emotional response to your understanding of the world. You made zero real arguments to your claim that God doesn’t exist.


I highly recommend you go on a real spiritual journey. Not some monk Buddhist thing, but get on your knees tonight and sincerely as God to show you the truth.

attempting to debate with you people is useless, ive done it many times and it always lands towards "god moves mysterious ways" "youre not supposed to fully understand him" "free will" whatever the fuck

its ok boyo, i was christian my whole life and i get why its so easy to fall deep into religion, been there. hope reality hits you, nothing bad ofc, just realization, or not, i dont really care

 

[getratioedbozo]

how old was Muhammad's wife?

9

 

[Gamerspyy786]

attempting to debate with you people is useless, ive done it many times and it always lands towards "god moves mysterious ways" "youre not supposed to fully understand him" "free will" whatever the fuck

its ok boyo, i was christian my whole life and i get why its so easy to fall deep into religion, been there. hope reality hits you, nothing bad ofc, just realization, or not, i dont really care

Lol again I was literally just about to say ur viewing things from the Christian perspective

I’m not a Christian myself because I know it isn’t the truth. Not feeling, but facts. The bible has been corrupted.

I would never say something like “God works in mysterious ways.”

Im Muslim and I believe this life is a test. Us humans have the free will to chose to do good or bad, which will either benefit or cause our loses on the day of judgement.

 

[zhilwan_]

This is what a Muslim brain fails to understand. Ur entire book takes things from the previous books and changes them sometimes a little bit, sometimes more than a little bit.

Even so, the words that u used “it just corrects and restores earlier revelations that were altered over time” according to who u? The Quran of courses. The Quran says the bible was corrupted and guess who also came to fix the alleged corruption? The Quran how can people for that bullshit lol.

Anyways it doesn’t matter what Christianity said, it matters what’s written in the bible. The bible is a book only for the Israelites. Christ said “I only came to the lost sheep of the house of Israel” he didn’t come for u, much less desert niggas.

Point being, the Quran came about 600 years after the New Testament. It has no authority to “restore/correct” the bible. No chance. If some bibles were altered as u might argue, we have other copies so it’s all good and we can figure out what’s the alternate version and fix it

Broski learn something about the Bible first
Christianity itself reinterprets the Hebrew Bible and changes its meaning around Jesus. Islam does the same thing with Christianity. You can say it’s false but calling it ‘copying’ ignores how religions actually develop
If you don’t want to argue ideas and just want to insult Muslims, that’s fine but then we’re not having a serious conversation.
I get why you reject Islam but saying Muslims are stupid or Islam is an accident is absurd
Neither can prove their case using other scripts
You reject the Qur’an because it comes later that’s a Christian position, and it’s valid. But Muslims aren’t irrational for accepting a later revelation any more than Christians are irrational for accepting the New Testament after the Torah.

 

[zhilwan_]

it takes a TRUE idiot to believe in it

most people only follow it to cope, or for the morals, they think the morals that come with is good

or for simple philosophy, and live by it metaphorically

or just in case, they don’t wanna get thrown in hell

but imagine the idiots that genuinely believe and supposedly truly “love” god. it’s nearly impossible to love something you can’t truly sense, purely psychologically and biologically, so for you to convince yourself that hard it takes a lot of effort and stupidity, mirin dedication nonetheless.

Calling believers idiots because they love something they can’t physically sense is weak reasoning. Humans love abstract things all the time justice, truth, freedom, nations, even future versions of themselves. None of those are biologically tangible are they?

 

[85/15beef]

atheist r bots and dont do actual research into spirituality or anything in general and love to throw the cope word around even though thats exactly what yall do urselves

 

[GoErOnFoids]

it takes a TRUE idiot to believe in it

most people only follow it to cope, or for the morals, they think the morals that come with is good

or for simple philosophy, and live by it metaphorically

or just in case, they don’t wanna get thrown in hell

but imagine the idiots that genuinely believe and supposedly truly “love” god. it’s nearly impossible to love something you can’t truly sense, purely psychologically and biologically, so for you to convince yourself that hard it takes a lot of effort and stupidity, mirin dedication nonetheless.

finally someone is on the same page

 

[Incelforeever]

Broski learn something about the Bible first
Christianity itself reinterprets the Hebrew Bible and changes its meaning around Jesus. Islam does the same thing with Christianity. You can say it’s false but calling it ‘copying’ ignores how religions actually develop
If you don’t want to argue ideas and just want to insult Muslims, that’s fine but then we’re not having a serious conversation.
I get why you reject Islam but saying Muslims are stupid or Islam is an accident is absurd
Neither can prove their case using other scripts
You reject the Qur’an because it comes later that’s a Christian position, and it’s valid. But Muslims aren’t irrational for accepting a later revelation any more than Christians are irrational for accepting the New Testament after the Torah.

The bible is not a book about religion thats already a mistake ur making. If u claim ur religion "evolved" than its already bullshit. The truth doesnt change, nothing is new under the sun u heard that?

"christianity itself reinterprets the hebrew bible" Im not a christian, they are retarded aswell. Idc about christianity or any religion i care about what the books says. The new testamant is perfectly in line with the old testamant. The term new and old are supposed to convey the new testmant outdating and overwriting the old testamant but thats not the case.

I find muslim to be annoyingly stupid because most of u disrespect the people written about in the bible by saying they were muslims jfl like i legit heard plenty of muslim say adam was a muslim and jacob and abrahm were lol. I also understand why they think they can say it because supposedly "being a muslim means submiting urself to God" right? but thats a circuler reasoning and i wont tolerate such stupid talking points sorry.


Islam is a religion, just by it being a "religion" makes it false and if u cant understand that than thats on u. The bible never talks about following a religion, never. Its a history book and its not about u, or me. Whether its true or not we will see when we die but ik damn sure no fucking new book is gonna come out 600 years later, make complete changes to the previous books and now this is supposdly the new true book we should follow

 

[GoErOnFoids]

Religion isn’t cope

The fact that you’re depressed proves that you need God in ur life

or you need to get rid of electronics and school and go outside

 

[Lefty Rankin]

what kind of god allows miscarriages and rape

A just God. Mankind reaps what it sows.

 

[Rabbi]

God promised me world domination 3000 years ago

 

[Deleted member 6089]

Think of it this way:

If there is an afterlife and you don’t believe in anything, your cooked

If there is an afterlive, you are essentially going to heaven, but you didn’t lose anything in this life

Also at the islam copers in this thread. Jesus christ is the ONLY true god. Turn to christianity and stop living in that miserable religion. Pray and repent for your salvation.

 

[OldSpice]

what kind of god allows miscarriages and rape

rape is a bad thing and is looked down upon.


The free will argument is what can be used here, would you rather trap some1 in a cage where they don't have any choice and can only do good things or let some1 be free and they can do whatever they want, let it be good or bad.

Just to clarify I don't promote miscarriages or rape

 

[fuckantifa]

it takes a TRUE idiot to believe in it

most people only follow it to cope, or for the morals, they think the morals that come with is good

or for simple philosophy, and live by it metaphorically

or just in case, they don’t wanna get thrown in hell

but imagine the idiots that genuinely believe and supposedly truly “love” god. it’s nearly impossible to love something you can’t truly sense, purely psychologically and biologically, so for you to convince yourself that hard it takes a lot of effort and stupidity, mirin dedication nonetheless.

Ethical hacker(Red team offensive sec) for 3 years, QA engineer for 2 years, Back-end developer for a year, degree in history and you'd actually cope hard to enough to think I'm an idiot for believing in world not just randomly falling into it's place, can hold a long discussion but it's not called out for

 

[daunas]

Proving God existence by saying this xoxo

saw someone say on tiktok that the bible is fake and the info is from epstein file

 

[OldSpice]

Basically yes aishah was 9 when Muhammad married here but in the ancient world puberty = adulthood
And for some extra knowledge Mary the mother of Jesus was known to be 12-14

first of all I'm pretty sure 9 isn't puberty

secondly, where does it say mary was 12-14?

 

[fuckantifa]

Well there are lots of ways to prove that God is there but what is your arguments against the miracles of the Quran?

Quran's even wrong about how a kid develops in the belly, bone first meat second, while it actually develops together, "Miracle" book can't even describe gift of life kek

 

[zhilwan_]

atheist r bots and dont do actual research into spirituality or anything in general and love to throw the cope word around even though thats exactly what yall do urselves

They state

The bible is not a book about religion thats already a mistake ur making. If u claim ur religion "evolved" than its already bullshit. The truth doesnt change, nothing is new under the sun u heard that?

"christianity itself reinterprets the hebrew bible" Im not a christian, they are retarded aswell. Idc about christianity or any religion i care about what the books says. The new testamant is perfectly in line with the old testamant. The term new and old are supposed to convey the new testmant outdating and overwriting the old testamant but thats not the case.

I find muslim to be annoyingly stupid because most of u disrespect the people written about in the bible by saying they were muslims jfl like i legit heard plenty of muslim say adam was a muslim and jacob and abrahm were lol. I also understand why they think they can say it because supposedly "being a muslim means submiting urself to God" right? but thats a circuler reasoning and i wont tolerate such stupid talking points sorry.


Islam is a religion, just by it being a "religion" makes it false and if u cant understand that than thats on u. The bible never talks about following a religion, never. Its a history book and its not about u, or me. Whether its true or not we will see when we die but ik damn sure no fucking new book is gonna come out 600 years later, make complete changes to the previous books and now this is supposdly the new true book we should follow

Then the disagreement is simple: you reject the possibility of later revelation by definition. That’s a philosophical assumption, not something the Bible objectively proves.

Calling Islam false just because it’s a ‘religion’ or later in time isn’t an argument — Jews use the same logic to reject the New Testament.

You don’t have to accept Islam, but pretending billions of people are idiots because they don’t share your closed-revelation assumption is just ego, not reasoning.

You’ve already decided no new revelation is possible. Fine. But don’t confuse that assumption with proof, and don’t mistake insults for arguments.

 

[ccwb]

what kind of god allows miscarriages and rape

Rope low iq

 

[Daddy's Home]

Same god btw..

 

[accinr]

Well there are lots of ways to prove that God is there but what is your arguments against the miracles of the Quran?

that boy said
miracles of the quran

 

[alwazzab]

Well there are lots of ways to prove that God is there but what is your arguments against the miracles of the Quran?

That the nigga Mohammed raped a 9 year old. God itself is a retarded concept. If Allah is omnipotent and all knowing, he knew my destiny before creating me. Therefore when he puts me in an ultimatum between heaven and hell, he knew where I would go. No difference in that than sentencing me right away. A god that creates eternal fire for people to go in, for the lack of certainty and conviction in his existence is worse than satan.

 

[inversions]

lol at trying to reasonably argue with religious people

The elites are all satanic so people believe there is a God

So that people are controlled

[High IQ]

 

[irrumator praetor]

what kind of god allows miscarriages and rape

I would, if I was god. Are you guys pussies?

 

[zhilwan_]

first of all I'm pretty sure 9 isn't puberty

secondly, where does it say mary was 12-1

9 can be puberty for girls btw

that boy said
miracles of the quran

Well here is a simple one
Quran said water is a dominant figure of the earth
We know water is about 71% of the earth surface
Life comes from water and human cannot survive without it

 

[zhilwan_]

That the nigga Mohammed raped a 9 year old. God itself is a retarded concept. If Allah is omnipotent and all knowing, he knew my destiny before creating me. Therefore when he puts me in an ultimatum between heaven and hell, he knew where I would go. No difference in that than sentencing me right away. A god that creates eternal fire for people to go in, for the lack of certainty and conviction in his existence is worse than satan.

Again you guys provide no evidence just straight words coming out

 

[GoErOnFoids]

oooh my gaad *goatis voice*

 

[GoErOnFoids]

Again you guys provide no evidence just straight words coming out

prove to me how god is real i havent seen him? not a sign in 18 years

 

[Incelforeever]

They state

Then the disagreement is simple: you reject the possibility of later revelation by definition. That’s a philosophical assumption, not something the Bible objectively proves.

Calling Islam false just because it’s a ‘religion’ or later in time isn’t an argument — Jews use the same logic to reject the New Testament.

You don’t have to accept Islam, but pretending billions of people are idiots because they don’t share your closed-revelation assumption is just ego, not reasoning.

You’ve already decided no new revelation is possible. Fine. But don’t confuse that assumption with proof, and don’t mistake insults for arguments.

U need to stop using the world religion, its a history book and should be taken as that if anything. I reject the quran because it doesnt line up with the previous pillars.

Two books, written by the same people (israelites) about their history, their covanant with God. Following each other through the timeline perfectly.

The Quran cant be a new revelation in anyway shape or form, it doesnt add up because 1. it tries to follow the biblical timeline in a sense which already contradict itself, and 2. it doesnt follow the same pillars of the two biblical books, it keeps some things and changes others and why? because allegedly the bible was altered according to who? the Quran (slight translation mistakes are irrlevent)

So it just breaks down as a book that tries to associate itselfs with the bible but also completly builds on different pillars

 

[alwazzab]

Again you guys provide no evidence just straight words coming out

”Bro just believe that Mohamed split the moon in two, have conviction in a god that created a prophet to rape a child, believe that god is all good yet will place people in eternal hell, also, believe that the god himself knew whether you would go to heaven or hell, yet chose to create you so that you will be forever burning in flames”

Here is proof that mohammed raped a 9 year old

Sahih al-Bukhari 5134 - Wedlock, Marriage (Nikaah) - كتاب النكاح - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم)

Hadith of the Prophet Muhammad (saws) in English and Arabic

sunnah.com

 

[zhilwan_]

prove to me how god is real i havent seen him? not a sign in 18 years

If God were a physical object you could see, He wouldn’t be God He’d be part of the universe. The claim is that God explains why the universe exists at all, not that He’s a character inside it.

Not seeing something isn’t proof it doesn’t exist. You’ve never seen consciousness, gravity, or time either you infer them from effects. God is argued for the same way: by cause, order, and necessity, not visibility.

 

[accinr]

9 can be puberty for girls btw

Well here is a simple one
Quran said water is a dominant figure of the earth
We know water is about 71% of the earth surface
Life comes from water and human cannot survive without it

caged brah, ancient greeks knew this
muh miracles

 

[alwazzab]

9 can be puberty for girls btw

LMAOOOO BAN THIS PEDOPHILIC NIGGER

 

[GoErOnFoids]

If God were a physical object you could see, He wouldn’t be God He’d be part of the universe. The claim is that God explains why the universe exists at all, not that He’s a character inside it.

Not seeing something isn’t proof it doesn’t exist. You’ve never seen consciousness, gravity, or time either you infer them from effects. God is argued for the same way: by cause, order, and necessity, not visibility.

nice