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[Deleted member 23558]

The study is a bit specific but it shows in essence that GABA is dependent on salt (sodium chloride) to function, and that the strength of GABA activation in the mammalian body can be controlled to an extent by controlling salt intake. It also is another piece of evidence showing the comprehensive view Ray has, and that it's all connected. 8% salt (which I assume is weight of total food) is insane but you don't have to go that high to feel the effects.

They feed the rats different levels of salt for 3 weeks and then measured their responses to GABAergic drugs. As an example, the high salt group had a stronger response to baclofen (chlorinated phenibut) at the same dose than the low salt group.

So, up your salt intake (while keeping your diet the same but upping water to match), and you should in theory feel more relaxed.

Effect of a high-salt diet on gamma-aminobutyric acid-mediated responses in the nucleus tractus solitarius of Sprague-Dawley rats

Effect of a high-salt diet on gamma-aminobutyric acid-mediated responses in the nucleus tractus solitarius of Sprague-Dawley rats - PubMed

Abstract
Previous study using an indirect gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA) agonist indicated that high salt intake enhances sensitivity of nucleus tractus solitarius (NTS) projecting inhibitory input to rostral ventrolateral medulla sympathoexcitatory neurons. We further investigated the relationship between salt intake and the GABA system in NTS. Sprague-Dawley (S-D) rats consuming high dietary salt (8%) or low dietary salt (0.3%) for 3 weeks were used. Under chloralose-anesthesia, baseline arterial pressure (AP) and heart rate (HR) were similar in both groups. Bilateral injection into NTS of nipecotic acid, GABA(A) receptor agonist (muscimol), or GABA(B) receptor agonist (baclofen) elicited greater pressor responses in high-salt group. GABA(A) receptor antagonist, bicuculline and GABA(B) receptor antagonist, CGP-35348 elicited greater depressor responses. Phenylephrine or nitroprusside (i.v.) elicited similar respective increases or decreases in AP in both groups. Baroreflex sensitivity was similar. Thus, high-salt intake enhances both GABA(A) receptor- and GABA(B) receptor-mediated responses within NTS, thereby inhibiting elevation of AP.

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@the BULL @Bewusst @apocalypse

 

[the BULL]

Tldr? I Just want to ldar since taking benzos

 

[Deleted member 23359]

nerd shit

 

[Deleted member 23558]

Tldr? I Just want to ldar since taking benzos

dont take benzos. take baclofen/ phenibut or progesterone derivates/progesterone itself. All these act on GABA-B receptors and increase 5 alpha progesterone in the brain which leads to low inhib and better mood. Benzos made me drowsy and numb , they are so shit. The study is about taking salt to enhance the effects of benzos and GABAergic compounds

 

[Deleted member 21863]

i realised I was using clonazepam wrong by taking it with water, it's sublingual apparently and hits way harder
comparable to being slightly drunk

 

[Deleted member 30254]

just bloatmaxx your face theory

 

[the BULL]

dont take benzos. take baclofen/ phenibut or progesterone derivates/progesterone itself. All these act on GABA-B receptors and increase 5 alpha progesterone in the brain which leads to low inhib and better mood. Benzos made me drowsy and numb , they are so shit.

I cannot not take benzos the hospital controls my levels
I take Depakin and risperidone

 

[Deleted member 23558]

I cannot not take benzos the hospital controls my levels
I take Depakin and risperidone

brutal, say goodbye to dopamine levels. no wonder you want to rot.

 

[Deleted member 23558]

just bloatmaxx your face theory

you are subhuman if salt makes ur bones disappear

 

[Deleted member 20399]

I cannot not take benzos the hospital controls my levels
I take Depakin and risperidone

Stay strong bull… you will make it

 

[Deleted member 21863]

dont take benzos. take baclofen/ phenibut or progesterone derivates/progesterone itself. All these act on GABA-B receptors and increase 5 alpha progesterone in the brain which leads to low inhib and better mood. Benzos made me drowsy and numb , they are so shit. The study is about taking salt to enhance the effects of benzos and GABAergic compounds

Jfl

 

[Deleted member 23558]

Jfl

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and?

 

[the BULL]

brutal, say goodbye to dopamine levels. no wonder you want to rot.

Isn't dopamine by rotting the ultimate level? Only zog controlled subhumans Need a position and girls. I can be Happy Just laying on the bed

 

[SubSigma]

dont take benzos. take baclofen/ phenibut or progesterone derivates/progesterone itself. All these act on GABA-B receptors and increase 5 alpha progesterone in the brain which leads to low inhib and better mood. Benzos made me drowsy and numb , they are so shit. The study is about taking salt to enhance the effects of benzos and GABAergic compounds

So phenibut and salt= less anxious with no withdrawal or dependency?

 

[Deleted member 23558]

So phenibut and salt= less anxious with no withdrawal or dependency?

Improving GABAergic tone is probably the mechanism. Taking both salt and magnesium glycinate should reduce withdrawal and dependency. Maybe even cycling progeseterone in between phenibuy days

 

[the BULL]

Improving GABAergic tone is probably the mechanism. Taking both salt and magnesium glycinate should reduce withdrawal and dependency. Maybe even cycling progeseterone in between phenibuy days

You shouldn't take this stuff without medical conditions
I'm diagnosed paranoid schizo

 

[SubSigma]

Improving GABAergic tone is probably the mechanism. Taking both salt and magnesium glycinate should reduce withdrawal and dependency. Maybe even cycling progeseterone in between phenibuy days

That shit is too sophisticated. Im just gonna stick to benzos, molly, ssris, and alcohol.

//SedatedSigma

 

[mortis]

The study is a bit specific but it shows in essence that GABA is dependent on salt (sodium chloride) to function

 

[Deleted member 41079]

you need help

 

[ropemax]

you need help

Low thyroid comment

 

[Deleted member 41079]

Low thyroid comment

please rephrase, you're talking to a retard

 

[Deleted member 16275]

please rephrase, you're talking to a retard

Huh? Please don't tell me rl sold this account as well wtf

 

[Deleted member 41079]

Huh? Please don't tell me rl sold this account as well wtf

money is money

 

[horizontallytall]

dont take benzos. take baclofen/ phenibut or progesterone derivates/progesterone itself. All these act on GABA-B receptors and increase 5 alpha progesterone in the brain which leads to low inhib and better mood. Benzos made me drowsy and numb , they are so shit. The study is about taking salt to enhance the effects of benzos and GABAergic compounds

Why do u need all this though? Also whats your genuine thoughts regarding pedos ?

 

[Deleted member 23558]

You shouldn't take this stuff without medical conditions
I'm diagnosed paranoid schizo

They are poisoning you.

 

[Deleted member 5815]

I cannot not take benzos the hospital controls my levels
I take Depakin and risperidone

The hospital is forcing you to be a benzo addict that will eventually go through severe benzos withdrawals and have a permanently worsened mental state? It's so messed up it should be for acute use only

 

[the BULL]

They are poisoning you.

The hospital is forcing you to be a benzo addict that will eventually go through severe benzos withdrawals and have a permanently worsened mental state? It's so messed up it should be for acute use only

i feel better than before.

 

[BloodClot]

dont take benzos. take baclofen/ phenibut or progesterone derivates/progesterone itself. All these act on GABA-B receptors and increase 5 alpha progesterone in the brain which leads to low inhib and better mood. Benzos made me drowsy and numb , they are so shit. The study is about taking salt to enhance the effects of benzos and GABAergic compounds

Is phenibut or progesterone derivatives even comparable to the potency of benzos? I’m wondering since I have chronic anxiety.

 

[Deleted member 23558]

Is phenibut or progesterone derivatives even comparable to the potency of benzos? I’m wondering since I have chronic anxiety.

Not as hardcore but yes. For me phenibut is miles better than Ativan or clonazepam

 

[BloodClot]

Not as hardcore but yes. For me phenibut is miles better than Ativan or clonazepam

What are your thoughts on anti histamines for anxiety such as hydroxyzine

 

[Deleted member 23558]

What are your thoughts on anti histamines for anxiety such as hydroxyzine

It’s alright problem is they make you drowsy . Theamine, magnesium, progesterone, pregnenolone, cbd oil with 4:1 thc etc are alternatives

 

[LampPostPrime]

and?

You're still here promoting retarded shit lol. Why are curries and chinks so smart in everything but medicine lmfaoo

 

[Deleted member 23558]

You're still here promoting retarded shit lol. Why are curries and chinks so smart in everything but medicine lmfaoo

You don’t know how to respond except calling people retarded. It’s cause you have no actual argument

 

[LampPostPrime]

The hospital is forcing you to be a benzo addict that will eventually go through severe benzos withdrawals and have a permanently worsened mental state? It's so messed up it should be for acute use only

Benzo withdrawal isnt permanent lol i swear there shud be rules against all the idiotic broscience here its legit harmful misinformation

 

[LampPostPrime]

You don’t know how to respond except calling people retarded. It’s cause you have no actual argument

The guy literally posted actual science and your response was "and"

Nigga

Thought curries were high iq jfl

 

[Deleted member 23558]

The guy literally posted actual science and your response was "and"

Nigga

Thought curries were high iq jfl

You’re decreasing my estimation of your iq every second thing you post

 

[LampPostPrime]

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Yea he same dude probably promoting laser helmets for baldness lol

 

[LampPostPrime]

You’re decreasing my estimation of your iq every second thing you post

Yottaprojection from mumbai

 

[LampPostPrime]

You shouldn't take this stuff without medical conditions
I'm diagnosed paranoid schizo

Ironic how one of the most insane users here has the most reasonable post

 

[Deleted member 23558]

Yottaprojection from mumbai

What projection? You think of the world in black and white you are just another normie

 

[Deleted member 5815]

Benzo withdrawal isnt permanent lol i swear there shud be rules against all the idiotic broscience here its legit harmful misinformation

Scaring someone off using benzos for months on end is HARMFUL misinformation? I've gone through benzo withdrawal but it wasn't that bad because I wasn't stupid and only used for 14 days in a row If he has been using them for months and stops suddenly he will get seizures and possibly permanent brain damage, you have to taper off very slowly the cons outweigh the pros no one needs benzos long term

 

[LampPostPrime]

What projection? You think of the world in black and white you are just another normie

You dont understand studies lol.

 

[Deleted member 23558]

You dont understanding studies lol.

Doing the same thing again. Making accusations without addressing anything about the topic at hand. One trick pony shit innit crony

 

[LampPostPrime]

Scaring someone off using benzos for months on end is HARMFUL misinformation? I've gone through benzo withdrawal but it wasn't that bad because I wasn't stupid and only used for 14 days in a row If he has been using them for months and stops suddenly he will get seizures and possibly permanent brain damage, you have to taper off very slowly the cons outweigh the pros no one needs benzos long term

Source for benzo withdrawal being permanent please

 

[the BULL]

Scaring someone off using benzos for months on end is HARMFUL misinformation? I've gone through benzo withdrawal but it wasn't that bad because I wasn't stupid and only used for 14 days in a row If he has been using them for months and stops suddenly he will get seizures and possibly permanent brain damage, you have to taper off very slowly the cons outweigh the pros no one needs benzos long term

You don't suddenly stop you gradually lower the dose

 

[LampPostPrime]

Doing the same thing again. Making accusations without addressing anything about the topic at hand. One trick pony shit innit crony

Youre oversimplifying one of the most complex scientific topics jfl

 

[BloodClot]

It’s alright problem is they make you drowsy . Theamine, magnesium, progesterone, pregnenolone, cbd oil with 4:1 thc etc are alternatives

Interesting, btw this is off topic but do you know of anyways to increase androgen receptors and senditivity?

 

[LampPostPrime]

This much more relevant .

Eating Too Much Salt Could Cause Stress Levels to Rise

Holiday feasts tend to be salt-heavy—but early animal experiments are finding that overindulging in the condiment could take an emotional toll.

www.wired.com

 

[Deleted member 23558]

Youre oversimplifying one of the most complex scientific topics jfl

Detail Por favore

 

[Deleted member 23558]

This much more relevant .

Eating Too Much Salt Could Cause Stress Levels to Rise

Holiday feasts tend to be salt-heavy—but early animal experiments are finding that overindulging in the condiment could take an emotional toll.

www.wired.com

Ok take your advice from wired.com this discussion is over