BEST ANDROGEN FOR HEIGHT GROWTH

[samuel$$]

What is the single best androgen for height and dimorphism with an ai?

 

[uglyretardednigga]

androgens and height growth in the same sentence

 

[samuel$$]

yeah stay 5,6 buddy

 

[yahgamy]

yeah stay 5,6 buddy

why are you replying to yourself

 

[uglyretardednigga]

yeah stay 5,6 buddy

ad hominem, androgens will do nothing but rape your bone age and maybe acclerate your growth velicity for a few months and ultimately making you shorter than if you didnt touch them

 

[samuel$$]

But aren’t you 5,6 obviously I’m not gonna take advise from you goofy ever heard of letrozole and tamoxifen. So not only are you short you are 0 iq

 

[yahgamy]

ad hominem, androgens will do nothing but rape your bone age and maybe acclerate your growth velicity for a few months and ultimately making you shorter than if you didnt touch them

just ignore him this guy is clearly retarded

 

[yahgamy]

@samuel$$ idk why u liked my comment i was referring to YOU

 

[uglyretardednigga]

But aren’t you 5,6 obviously I’m not gonna take advise from you goofy ever heard of letrozole and tamoxifen. So not only are you short you are 0 in

learn to click on the reply button and stop spammng ad hominems, my height doesn't change the fact that i'm more educated on pharma than you will ever be.

run AIs while your bone age is getting raped mf

''androgens for height growth'' kill yourself nigga

 

[satanicplayground]

yeah stay 5,6 buddy

can u stop hating on 5'6 ok 5'6 is tall hate on 5'4

 

[samuel$$]

Yeah your so educated then why are you 5,6 lol

 

[uglyretardednigga]

Yeah your so educated then why are you 5,6 lol

genetics, keep coping and seething with that 80iq of yours, also click on the reply button of something you want to reply to tard

 

[satanicplayground]

Yeah your so educated then why are you 5,6 lol

stop hating on 5'6 faggot u r 5'8 you are aint tall enough to hate we are in the same boat

 

[PSLgodBlackPerson]

But aren’t you 5,6 obviously I’m not gonna take advise from you goofy ever heard of letrozole and tamoxifen. So not only are you short you are 0 iq

Yeah you're retarded, go listen to him. It still rapes your bone age via excess signaling of this other pathway ( I forgot) which is primarily how e2 also rapes your bone ages, even if you use letrozole or some AI, serm, or e2 degrader.

 

[Gudlifer]

androgens and height growth in the same sentence

they can actually accelerate growth velocity


what he's saying isn't completely retarded


aromatizing androgens can be counterproductive, but that doesn't make all androgens implicitly bad

 

[uglyretardednigga]

they can actually accelerate growth velocity


what he's saying isn't completely retarded


aromatizing androgens can be counterproductive, but that doesn't make all androgens implicitly bad

until bone age walks in

 

[samuel$$]

stop hating on 5'6 faggot u r 5'8 you are aint tall enough to hate we are in the same boat

Yeah but my bone age is 14 unlike yours keep coping nigga

 

[PSLgodBlackPerson]

they can actually accelerate growth velocity


what he's saying isn't completely retarded


aromatizing androgens can be counterproductive, but that doesn't make all androgens implicitly bad

Androgenic signaling inheritedly whether with or without aromatizing accelerate bone age and reduce your growth window. A paper I read which I will link later, even showed the use of AAS with AI or estrogen degrader and the excess androgenic signaling still caused premature bone fusion. It is completely retarded, unless you use another anc (I forgot the name of it) to counter this its not so much retarded but 99% of roid ngas like op aren't aware of this and think "muh ai" will do sum

 

[Gudlifer]

until bone age walks in

Androgenic signaling inheritedly whether with or without aromatizing accelerate bone age and reduce your growth window. A paper I read which I will link later, even showed the use of AAS with AI or estrogen degrader and the excess androgenic signaling still caused premature bone fusion. It is completely retarded, unless you use another anc (I forgot the name of it) to counter this its not so much retarded but 99% of roid ngas like op aren't aware of this and think "muh ai" will do sum

Androgen signaling of gp senescence is almost insignifcant, especially if we take into account it's height velocity benefits

You would have to use extremely high doses for the cons to overweigh the pros


but testosterone levels should be low, and you shouldnt use any aromatizing androgens at all


If you have high testosterone levels, bone age will advance even if you use an ai or tamoxifen



what im saying is that saying "androgens are bad for height" is incorrect, you could say "some androgens under certain circumstances r bad for height"

 

[nbfmyb]

Androgen signaling of gp senescence is almost insignifcant, especially if we take into account it's height velocity benefits

You would have to use extremely high doses for the cons to overweigh the pros


but testosterone levels should be low, and you shouldnt use any aromatizing androgens at all


If you have high testosterone levels, bone age will advance even if you use an ai or tamoxifen



what im saying is that saying "androgens are bad for height" is incorrect, you could say "some androgens under certain circumstances r bad for height"

What non aromatizing androgens would you recommend I use for muscle if 19nors aren’t an option

 

[Gudlifer]

What non aromatizing androgens would you recommend I use for muscle if 19nors aren’t an option

injectable winstrol (or oral but organ damage from an equivalent dose would be unreasonable), primobolan for muscle specifically

ig u could do anavar too

and proviron/masteron (wont rlly give u muscle by itself but its good)


just keep doses moderate

 

[The Night Stroker]

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What is the single best androgen for height and dimorphism with an ai?

Tren Or Rather NPP because theres actual studies with NPP, the ai you always have to go with Letrozole, its the best thing out there.

 

[nbfmyb]

injectable winstrol (or oral but organ damage from an equivalent dose would be unreasonable), primobolan for muscle specifically

ig u could do anavar too

and proviron/masteron (wont rlly give u muscle by itself but its good)


just keep doses moderate

Actually if I was to use tren for like 3 months then cruise on test for another 3 months then pct after that, do you think I could bounce back to normal fairly quickly

 

[aac21]

its nuanced, just like gudlifer said aromatizable androgens have an impact on bone age. naaas, not so much. its quite insignificant compared to e2 induced fusion. you will be running low doses anyway which will give your chondrocytes time to go through diffrentiation cycles and stages and not skip to ossification.

and of course not to mention the height velocity from androgens.

 

[Gudlifer]

Actually if I was to use tren for like 3 months then cruise on test for another 3 months then pct after that, do you think I could bounce back to normal fairly quickly

why would you do test and pct while your plates are open? just wait till ur satisfied w ur height or ur plates have closed (and itll also fuse ur clavicles' gps which is pretty much the most important for an aesthetic physique, so not worth it)

you will be able to recover endogenous production even if u take roids for like 3 years within a month or 2 of proper pct

just dont do crazy doses




if ur asking for muscle only, disregarding bones, i cant rly tell u what to do, im not an expert

 

[aac21]

Actually if I was to use tren for like 3 months then cruise on test for another 3 months then pct after that, do you think I could bounce back to normal fairly quickly

not a bad cycle but u would prolly need 9-12 months if u arent planning to do big cycles after this.