Best european countries to move to

[quakociaptockh]

The thinkgs i have seen are completly differentt between Poland and Spain

What cities did you live in?

 

[LastGerman]

I was thinking Germany/Austria due to speaking German, good infrastructure/quality of life and lower cost of living

That is not true at all.

 

[Deleted member 6111]

That is not true at all.

all of those things are true

 

[Charles the Fat]

Ngl, the reason I wanna leave Norway is because of fucking darkness in winter, depressing as hell, unsocial culture, and there is a lot of loneliness and depression here. And I just want something new, a fresh start, maybe begin anew and leave from where I in past failed. I’m thinking of studying in a foreign country just to get away for some time. Maybe I’d just move to Oslo or something as well, Idk

 

[Deleted member 6111]

Ngl, the reason I wanna leave Norway is because of fucking darkness in winter, depressing as hell, unsocial culture, and there is a lot of loneliness and depression here. And I just want something new, a fresh start, maybe begin anew and leave from where I in past failed. I’m thinking of studying in a foreign country just to get away for some time

justgoonvikingraidsTHEORY

a lot of people would envy you living in norway ngl but yeah i also hate the darkness

 

[Charles the Fat]

justgoonvikingraidsTHEORY

a lot of people would envy you living in norway ngl but yeah i also hate the darkness

Yeah, I know many foreigners dream of living in Norway. Norway is the only thing I experienced though, so Idk how life is in other countries. I’d have to see for myself I guess. Problem is, many immigrants here struggle to make friends and stuff because of said unsocial culture, and end up in loneliness, etc. We’re bigger than the UK and we’re only 5 million people lol. I guess my dream is to move somewhere more central, somewhere I don’t feel like I live at the edge of the world away from everyone, but maybe living among many people makes you even more lonely. Idk

 

[disillusioned]

Just lol if you are planning on moving to ANY european country that isn't in eastern europe. The future is there, even if it may not seem like it right now. The entirety of the western world is done for. The population there are brainwashed braindead cucks who are willingly destroying their own countries while allowing them to be taken over by corrupt globalists and corporations that hate them. The west is done. Get out if possible.

 

[LastGerman]

all of those things are true

No, it is not true at all. In fact, it is a great misconception when it comes to this topic. I mean, I get it, other media and people are talking good things about Germany and yet at the same time they also hold up a lot of cliches which are unfortunately not true. I wish they were true though.
In Germany you have to:
- Pay a lot for living
- Much work for little money
- Food and so on is quite expensive, even products made in Germany
- Cities are multicultural shitholes
- Also more and more homeless men on the street
- Trash and bad smell around train areas and subways
- Driver licence costs more than 2000 Euro
- Public transportation is also not that good, it cost a lot of money and even in cities you might have to change trains and bus often in order to arrive at your destination
- In more rural areas you basically need to drive otherwise you might wait hours for the bus to arrive
- Also public transportation is full of younger people, so you will get mogged on a daily basis

If you come to Germany, you will see it for yourself. Germany is not the worst place, but also not the best place to live in.

 

[LastGerman]

Ngl, the reason I wanna leave Norway is because of fucking darkness in winter

Sounds actually good to me.

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

Bulgaria + digital company seems ideal

 

[Deleted member 2968]

Balkan or Death

 

[owlofathena]

@20Nobragger01 is Oslo still kinda dark in winter? I am thinking moving to Norway eventually

 

[Alexanderr]

JFL, I love how everyone’s just shitting on their own countries and telling you not to go there.

 

[Marsiere214]

if u go to australia u might meet ritalincel

 

[Charles the Fat]

@20Nobragger01 is Oslo still kinda dark in winter? I am thinking moving to Norway eventually

Idk, I live much further north, but I think it’s similar, maybe not that different from Scotland either maybe, 3 pm

 

[owlofathena]

Idk, I live much further north, but I think it’s similar, maybe not that different from Scotland either maybe, 3 pm

You must be from Trondheim then

 

[Deleted member 6111]

No, it is not true at all. In fact, it is a great misconception when it comes to this topic. I mean, I get it, other media and people are talking good things about Germany and yet at the same time they also hold up a lot of cliches which are unfortunately not true. I wish they were true though.
In Germany you have to:
- Pay a lot for living
- Much work for little money
- Food and so on is quite expensive, even products made in Germany
- Cities are multicultural shitholes
- Also more and more homeless men on the street
- Trash and bad smell around train areas and subways
- Driver licence costs more than 2000 Euro
- Public transportation is also not that good, it cost a lot of money and even in cities you might have to change trains and bus often in order to arrive at your destination
- In more rural areas you basically need to drive otherwise you might wait hours for the bus to arrive
- Also public transportation is full of younger people, so you will get mogged on a daily basis

If you come to Germany, you will see it for yourself. Germany is not the worst place, but also not the best place to live in.

1) Rent and housing prices are much lower in the two cities ive mentioned and throughout the German speaking world (apart from possibly switzerland) than they are in London and the South East of England. subsidised housing is much harder to come across in the UK (ie virtually impossible); we have a 4 million housing shortage
2) The median German wage is higher than the median British wage, and these collapse if you go outside of unliveable london. German work life balance is also significantly better
3) Food is cheaper in Germany than the uk. Ive lived in both. Germans literally introduced low cost supermarkets to the uk. London food prices are much much much higher than any German city
4) all cities in britain are multicultural. most of the big cities in england are majority minority at this point. London has been majority minority for a decade now, and it isnt even the worst case. only 3 german cities are majority minority, and most of your immigrants are european. we have whole immigrant communities dedicated to the wholesale rape of 10,000s of english children and they are actively supported by the police. you barely even have any black africans. we have a significantly higher rate of violent crime than germany
5) Britain has a far worse problem with rough sleeping than germany, which has one of the best shelter systems in europe
6) Britain is just obviously dirtier than Germany
7) This is your only valid point and it isnt even that much higher than the uk. also i dont really care.
8) The only UK city which has passable public transport is London, and its much more expensive than any german city. no other uk city has a metro or even light rail. some have trams but theyre appallingly run, dont cover most of the city and are very expensive. the fact you think its strange to have to change buses and trains in cities says it all really. buses are unusable in most of london due to the violence (akin to the paris metro). intercity trains in the UK are notoriously bad and extremely expensive (east coast line has actually improved in the last few years but overall theyre still terrible). commuter trains just stop working pretty much once a year and its a major political issue. german roads are better.
9) this is the case everywhere. in the uk you need to drive in suburban areas and frankly most cities because public transport is either almost non-existent or not fit for purpose.
10) oh no what a shame. young people. british public transport is full of crackheads and criminals

The fact these are the examples you can come up with for why not to live in Germany, when Germany is better than britain in all but the most trivial category, just makes me want to move to munich even more

 

[Alexanderr]

Idk, I live much further north, but I think it’s similar, maybe not that different from Scotland either maybe, 3 pm

Is studying in Bodø a good choice or should I go somewhere else in Norway?

 

[Deleted member 6111]

as a side note are norwegian universities good? i know one can do a masters for free there, and masters are much cheaper or free in much of europe than in the uk or us, but idk how legit euro unis are. the only one ive ever considered if i were to do a sabbatical or something is lmu, and the range of subjects there seems pretty limited

 

[randomuser2407]

Switzerland is #1

 

[LastGerman]

1) Rent and housing prices are much lower in the two cities ive mentioned and throughout the German speaking world (apart from possibly switzerland) than they are in London and the South East of England. subsidised housing is much harder to come across in the UK (ie virtually impossible); we have a 4 million housing shortage
2) The median German wage is higher than the median British wage, and these collapse if you go outside of unliveable london. German work life balance is also significantly better
3) Food is cheaper in Germany than the uk. Ive lived in both. Germans literally introduced low cost supermarkets to the uk. London food prices are much much much higher than any German city
4) all cities in britain are multicultural. most of the big cities in england are majority minority at this point. London has been majority minority for a decade now, and it isnt even the worst case. only 3 german cities are majority minority, and most of your immigrants are european. we have whole immigrant communities dedicated to the wholesale rape of 10,000s of english children and they are actively supported by the police. you barely even have any black africans. we have a significantly higher rate of violent crime than germany
5) Britain has a far worse problem with rough sleeping than germany, which has one of the best shelter systems in europe
6) Britain is just obviously dirtier than Germany
7) This is your only valid point and it isnt even that much higher than the uk. also i dont really care.
8) The only UK city which has passable public transport is London, and its much more expensive than any german city. no other uk city has a metro or even light rail. some have trams but theyre appallingly run, dont cover most of the city and are very expensive. the fact you think its strange to have to change buses and trains in cities says it all really. buses are unusable in most of london due to the violence (akin to the paris metro). intercity trains in the UK are notoriously bad and extremely expensive (east coast line has actually improved in the last few years but overall theyre still terrible). commuter trains just stop working pretty much once a year and its a major political issue. german roads are better.
9) this is the case everywhere. in the uk you need to drive in suburban areas and frankly most cities because public transport is either almost non-existent or not fit for purpose.
10) oh no what a shame. young people. british public transport is full of crackheads and criminals

The fact these are the examples you can come up with for why not to live in Germany, when Germany is better than britain in all but the most trivial category, just makes me want to move to munich even more

When it comes to rent, Germany and Britain are pretty much similar (on average). Both are pretty much expensive, even 1 bedroom. If you want to come back to Germany in order to save some money, you actually have to move to a more rural area. In this regard you would actually indeed save some money here, so, I do agree on that one. The next problem is public transportation. As you already said, you basically have to drive. If you are not capable of driving, you have to rely on the bus/train and so on. The bad part is, that public transportation is actually a bit more expensive here in Germany (on average), but if you are capable of driving, this point does not apply to you.

When it comes to food though, Germany might be a bit cheaper here and there but in the end it is not that much actually, specially due to the fact that even mediocre food is quite expensive as well.

Minimum salary is 9,49 Euro in Germany. There are also temporary contracts which means, that every 6 month you will get a new employment contract. So, there is no rise in salary, regardless of how good you are.

Overall, the "cost of living index" says, that there is only a difference of around 2 to 3 points between Londong and Munich for example.

All I want to say is, that Germany is not actually that good. Sure, it is not the worst place, but also not the best place either. People in general seem to have really high expectations. But perhaps you have an elaborated plan or already a foundation you can rely on.

 

[eduardkoopman]

JFL about cucked France any big city is barely livable

7 years ago on holiday in Paris. Fealt like I rarely saw a native-native French person. More, tourists, immigrants, expats, and foreign investors.

 

[Deleted member 3679]

Switzerland is #1

Isn't it hard as hell to immigrate there? Even if you're from an EU or western (US, Oz, Canada) country they make it damn near impossible to live there permanently. Also, you will need to speak French, German, and Italian to get any decent job in one of the big cities. I remember back before the Roosh forum turned crazy the guys who went there said the women were mediocre looking stuck up uber cunts.

 

[randomuser2407]

Isn't it hard as hell to immigrate there? Even if you're from an EU or western (US, Oz, Canada) country they make it damn near impossible to live there permanently. Also, you will need to speak French, German, and Italian to get any decent job in one of the big cities. I remember back before the Roosh forum turned crazy the guys who went there said the women were mediocre looking stuck up uber cunts.

Switzerland is the best place to live in because of the economy and the alps where you can do the best skiing of your life and the culture is very good there too. And with their trains you can visit the entire country. If you want to visit other countries in Europe, cheap airline companies like Easyjet sell one way tickets to Iceland for 100$ and the cost is quite low for the distance travelled. With Easyjet you can travel to any country in Europe from within Europe for very cheap.

I wish I was living in Europe so I would be able to go on such trips during the weekend, in Quebec I am stranded because I am limited to either travelling within my own country or going to nearby states of the USA. Since each country has its own culture, Europe has a lot more things to do, and sure you could go live in any country in Europe but Switzerland has very low income taxes and the jobs pay very well.

It's not impossible to get a job there, it depends on your industry, if you are in high demand and highly skilled in your field with a good resume, it shouldn't be too difficult to find a job in Switzerland but if you're just the average employee at a company, of course you'll never stand a chance. Swiss employers pick swiss citizens first, then people from the EU, then the rest of the world, so if you live in the EU, your chance of getting a job there is much greater. I recommend Switzerland because I lived there for 7 years and travelled the world a lot so I know about this stuff.

 

[Deleted member 6111]

When it comes to rent, Germany and Britain are pretty much similar (on average). Both are pretty much expensive, even 1 bedroom. If you want to come back to Germany in order to save some money, you actually have to move to a more rural area. In this regard you would actually indeed save some money here, so, I do agree on that one. The next problem is public transportation. As you already said, you basically have to drive. If you are not capable of driving, you have to rely on the bus/train and so on. The bad part is, that public transportation is actually a bit more expensive here in Germany (on average), but if you are capable of driving, this point does not apply to you.

When it comes to food though, Germany might be a bit cheaper here and there but in the end it is not that much actually, specially due to the fact that even mediocre food is quite expensive as well.

Minimum salary is 9,49 Euro in Germany. There are also temporary contracts which means, that every 6 month you will get a new employment contract. So, there is no rise in salary, regardless of how good you are.

Overall, the "cost of living index" says, that there is only a difference of around 2 to 3 points between Londong and Munich for example.

All I want to say is, that Germany is not actually that good. Sure, it is not the worst place, but also not the best place either. People in general seem to have really high expectations. But perhaps you have an elaborated plan or already a foundation you can rely on.

Clearly, Germany is not a perfect country, and has in many ways declined somewhat in recent years/decades, but i can assure you it is nowhere near as bad as the uk, or, as far as i am aware, the rest of the anglosphere. Firstly, nowhere in Germany, in none of the cities or lander, is rent comparable to London and the South East of England. Yes, house prices outside of London are much cheaper but economic opportunity is also negligible unless you can work remotely. Germany is a much more balanced country geographically; im aware that the former GDR is poorer but Germany doesnt have the same concentration of wealth in one city/region - most of Germany, at least the west, has similar levels of economic opportunity, even though there are obvious differences they arent anywhere near as dramatic. so taking averages housing/rent costs is misleading because either you live in London, where the costs are extremely high and make up almost 80% of the average salary, or you live outside the south east where theres nothing to do for good money.

This regional disparity also applies to infrastructure. London is the only uk city with public transport that is fit for service, but this only applies to the tube (definitely not the buses), which is much more expensive than, say, the berlin U-bahn. basically, you either live in London, which is unaffordable for the vast majority of people, and comes with so many problems of its own, or you dont have access to economic opportunity. 9.49 euros is £8.60, which is about the same as the UK minimum wage but for anyone under 25 its much lower. £8.60 is also much much lower than the london living wage, which is the wage youd need to earn in order to realistically be able to pay rent, afford food and occasionally socialise without going into debt. the cost of living difference obviously means 8.60/9.49 is much more valuable in Germany, but there is also the issue of wealth inequality. London is basically only affordable for people with very high paying jobs eg in the city. many many people in london are working at, just above or even below the minimum wage, whereas Germany has far more people earning good/normal salaries, with fewer people earning the extremely high salaries common in London or, say, somewhere like New York. Germany also has much better access to subsidised housing, including housing for students etc; there is a chronic shortage of british housing (of 4 MILLION HOUSES) and native people are the last priority. you wont get subsidised housing in the uk. not gonna happen.
btw that cost of living index is nonsense. everything i can think of is much cheaper in Munich, and frankfurt, also a more expensive german city: clothes, groceries, eating out, beer, nightclubs, cinema, takeway, gyms. when I was working in frankfurt my parents came to visit me, and decided to go on a shopping spree because everything was so much cheaper than London. thats CENTRAL FRANKFURT ffs, hardly some eastern, semi-rural rural backwater.

also we have zero hours contracts, which are like your "six month contracts" on steroids. you have no guarantee of hours at all and no job stability. this is how most young people and many older people eg in retail work.

 

[Deleted member 6111]

7 years ago on holiday in Paris. Fealt like I rarely saw a native-native French person. More, tourists, immigrants, expats, and foreign investors.

i actually quite liked paris. the girls are fit, the city is beautiful, the weather was nice which helps and i like the fact that the foreigners live in the suburbs not the inner city (obviously i dont like it but its preferable). wouldnt want to live there though jfl

 

[Deleted member 3679]

Switzerland is the best place to live in because of the economy and the alps where you can do the best skiing of your life and the culture is very good there too. And with their trains you can visit the entire country. If you want to visit other countries in Europe, cheap airline companies like Easyjet sell one way tickets to Iceland for 100$ and the cost is quite low for the distance travelled. With Easyjet you can travel to any country in Europe from within Europe for very cheap.

I wish I was living in Europe so I would be able to go on such trips during the weekend, in Quebec I am stranded because I am limited to either travelling within my own country or going to nearby states of the USA. Since each country has its own culture, Europe has a lot more things to do, and sure you could go live in any country in Europe but Switzerland has very low income taxes and the jobs pay very well.

It's not impossible to get a job there, it depends on your industry, if you are in high demand and highly skilled in your field with a good resume, it shouldn't be too difficult to find a job in Switzerland but if you're just the average employee at a company, of course you'll never stand a chance. Swiss employers pick swiss citizens first, then people from the EU, then the rest of the world, so if you live in the EU, your chance of getting a job there is much greater. I recommend Switzerland because I lived there for 7 years and travelled the world a lot so I know about this stuff.

Yes if you can get a job there can just go bang EE sluts on the weekend probably

 

[Deleted member 6111]

When it comes to rent, Germany and Britain are pretty much similar (on average). Both are pretty much expensive, even 1 bedroom. If you want to come back to Germany in order to save some money, you actually have to move to a more rural area. In this regard you would actually indeed save some money here, so, I do agree on that one. The next problem is public transportation. As you already said, you basically have to drive. If you are not capable of driving, you have to rely on the bus/train and so on. The bad part is, that public transportation is actually a bit more expensive here in Germany (on average), but if you are capable of driving, this point does not apply to you.

When it comes to food though, Germany might be a bit cheaper here and there but in the end it is not that much actually, specially due to the fact that even mediocre food is quite expensive as well.

Minimum salary is 9,49 Euro in Germany. There are also temporary contracts which means, that every 6 month you will get a new employment contract. So, there is no rise in salary, regardless of how good you are.

Overall, the "cost of living index" says, that there is only a difference of around 2 to 3 points between Londong and Munich for example.

All I want to say is, that Germany is not actually that good. Sure, it is not the worst place, but also not the best place either. People in general seem to have really high expectations. But perhaps you have an elaborated plan or already a foundation you can rely on.

at one point i was living in a second/third rate German city, earning a much higher wage than I would have in London, and paying 300 euros/month for a large room in a non-subsidised private flat, and walking to work. so the idea youd need to move to the countryside to save money in Germany just isnt true.

 

[Matheus]

7 years ago on holiday in Paris. Fealt like I rarely saw a native-native French person. More, tourists, immigrants, expats, and foreign investors.

This city is an absolute shithole. Every big city is full with sandniggers, niggers and their children but Paris is this tenfold. The mayor is an absolute crackhead socialist too. Third world with marxist oppression on top of it. Absolute shame given what it used to be. France is cucked to a point anyone from even ten years ago cannot comprehend

 

[Maxout]

Italy, Portugal or even France are good options.

 

[Deleted member 6111]

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considering the French led to Crusades to liberate the Holy Land, we europeans kinda owe them one

 

[Maxout]

considering the French led to Crusades to liberate the Holy Land, we europeans kinda owe them one

your gunna have to convert in to pagan

 

[DownSyndromeBBC]

I've had my eye on moving to Poland.

 

[LastGerman]

at one point i was living in a second/third rate German city, earning a much higher wage than I would have in London

Oh ok, that is nice. By the way, what was your job back then? Do you have any skills/qualifications?

and paying 300 euros/month for a large room in a non-subsidised private flat

That is actually quite cheap though. How much m^2?

so the idea youd need to move to the countryside to save money in Germany just isnt true.

What I was trying to say is, that the the rural area is way cheaper than the city area, also compared to Britain.

 

[Deleted member 6111]

Oh ok, that is nice. By the way, what was your job back then? Do you have any skills/qualifications?



That is actually quite cheap though. How much m^2?



What I was trying to say is, that the the rural area is way cheaper than the city area, also compared to Britain.

but the rural area presumably has less economic opportunity, especially if you arent from there (idk im not so familiar with the german countryside). and yes but even so german cities are all much cheaper than london/the south east, and you have a much better chance of getting a good wage in most of them than anywhere in the uk.

I dont wanna say what i was doing. it was a fairly skilled job but i didnt have actual qualifications for it, and i didnt have a degree at the time. i was working at the VW factory, but not as an engineer. there are no jobs comparable to that in the uk outside of London - we have barely any industry left and the ones we do have usually dont pay that well and dont employ that many people, whereas most lander have at least one big employer who pays decent wages and provides a meaningful career, or they have a prosperous services/financial sector eg frankfurt. in london its literally you work in law/banking etc in London or you, for the most part, dont have a good job with prospect of progression. and even many people in those professions, especially those in their 20s, cant afford to live a good life in london. even things like tech companies are largely bullshit and pay wages which dont facilitate a decent lifestyle. there are whole swathes of good professions eg teaching which will leave you barely able to survive throughout your whole life, not just 20s. good luck raising a family

 

[Deleted member 6111]

Oh ok, that is nice. By the way, what was your job back then? Do you have any skills/qualifications?



That is actually quite cheap though. How much m^2?



What I was trying to say is, that the the rural area is way cheaper than the city area, also compared to Britain.

look i get that Germany and places like Norway also have problems, and you have every right to be annoyed and want to stop and reverse them, im just saying theyre not as far down the road as the uk and theyre much nicer places to live

 

[Deleted member 9288]

wtf bro
finland is more modern than uk
the women are top tier blonde qts

finns are gooks, ugly mfin mongols

 

[Deleted member 8765]

Italy, Portugal or even France are good options.

Portugal not so much tbh

 

[Deleted member 8765]

finns are gooks, ugly mfin mongols

I thought black people couldnt be racist

 

[Deleted member 6111]

Portugal not so much tbh

i loved portugal, i considered doing an MIM there, idk what the economic opportunity is like though?

 

[Deleted member 8765]

i loved portugal, i considered doing an MIM there, idk what the economic opportunity is like though?

I heard from someone that it is shit. Pure dog shit.

 

[Deleted member 6111]

I heard from someone that it is shit. Pure dog shit.

who? im presuming youre southern european? porto was one of the nicest cities ive been. only drawbacks i can think of would be lack of well paid jobs and their disastrous drug policy, although tbh i didnt see much evidence of that in Porto or Lisbon. probably didnt go to the shit bits

 

[LastGerman]

I dont wanna say what i was doing. it was a fairly skilled job but i didnt have actual qualifications for it, and i didnt have a degree at the time. i was working at the VW factory

Ah ok, to be fair, VW is a really good company, specially when it comes to salary. So, it is no surpsie that you want to come back if you can get a job like this once again. But I also want to say, it is really hard to get a job like this now. In fact, the German car industry is under attack and plenty of people lost their jobs. But due to the fact that you worked for VW, you might be lucky and you can work for Tesla, although I despise Tesla because they are destroying everything. Funny is, they are currently building their company in a rural area.

in london its literally you work in law/banking etc in London or you, for the most part, dont have a good job with prospect of progression. and even many people in those professions, especially those in their 20s, cant afford to live a good life in london.

You either work for a decent company like VW, Mercedes, BMW, Siemens or perhaps even a company like DHL or you will work in a low-level job. Hard work for little money. It is indeed brutal.

 

[Deleted member 9511]

All Western Europe is uninhabitable or will soon be, I recommend poorer Eastern European countries who aren't cucked yet like Albania, Moldova, Serbia, etc.

literally suggesting a country whose main export is organized crime and drugs

 

[Deleted member 9511]

Estonia - cold nice nature, english & russian speaking, low taxes, good education & infrastructure & healthcare, guns are allowed, very low immigration, ideal for having digital income, hot females

i tried to speak russian in Tallinn and nobody understood my russian or my english which are both accentless

 

[Gonthar]

literally suggesting a country whose main export is organized crime and drugs

There's not much crime in these countries or drugs, because people are too poor to afford them.

 

[6ft8InTheNetherlands]

If you never want to have sex italy is a very good option

I lived in Valencia Spain for almost a year and the same goes here.

Tinder was absolutely horrible and the local girls didn't show me much affection. Whereas I get laid without much issue in here the Netherlands and Germany.

I'm Latino/mixed looking however. I bet blond guys would do better in Southern Europe because many people in Spain tend to look up to Northerners, at least on a subconscious level. They even market products there as "calidad Alemana", which means German quality.

You might have a bigger chance with the Erasmus girls in the club though, or the girls on holiday just walking around in the city.

 

[RAITEIII]

I lived in Valencia Spain for almost a year and the same goes here.

Tinder was absolutely horrible and the local girls didn't show me much affection. Whereas I get laid without much issue in here the Netherlands and Germany.

I'm Latino/mixed looking however. I bet blond guys would do better in Southern Europe because many people in Spain tend to look up to Northerners, at least on a subconscious level. They even market products there as "calidad Alemana", which means German quality.

You might have a bigger chance with the Erasmus girls in the club though, or the girls on holiday just walking around in the city.

Lmao nigger how many languages do you even speak fluently.

I didn't think Valencia would be hard specially for someone with 6ft8 halo.

 

[6ft8InTheNetherlands]

Lmao nigger how many languages do you even speak fluently.

I didn't think Valencia would be hard specially for someone with 6ft8 halo.

Lol I actually went there because I wanted to get my Spanish to B2/C1 level and not for the girls. Haven't spoken a word in Spanish since I lived there in 2019 though so my Spanish is shit now.

Being 6ft8 is a bigger deal and more important here in NL or Germany. I get way more girls here who like my height. Girls in spain are midgets and not even that attractive. People think spain has hot girls because they go on a summer holiday and see lots of tourists and hot girls always flock to busy/nice places.

I did have 1 girl there though as I was in a LTR with a girl there in VLC and she is from a village, most girls are ugly-average there. But try going to a village in western europe and see the difference for yourself.

However the quality of life, weather etc is MUCH better in Spain than here.

Social life here in western europe is a big joke. I haven't had a real conversation with anyone (excluding girls i date) in 2020 yet except saying hello to a cashier or a gym clerk.

 

[RAITEIII]

Lol I actually went there because I wanted to get my Spanish to B2/C1 level and not for the girls. Haven't spoken a word in Spanish since I lived there in 2019 though so my Spanish is shit now.

Being 6ft8 is a bigger deal and more important here in NL or Germany. I get way more girls here who like my height. Girls in spain are midgets and not even that attractive. People think spain has hot girls because they go on a summer holiday and see lots of tourists and hot girls always flock to busy/nice places.

I did have 1 girl there though as I was in a LTR with a girl there in VLC and she is from a village, most girls are ugly-average there. But try going to a village in western europe and see the difference for yourself.

However the quality of life, weather etc is MUCH better in Spain than here.

Social life here in western europe is a big joke. I haven't had a real conversation with anyone (excluding girls i date) in 2020 yet except saying hello to a cashier or a gym clerk.

There are some pretty foids, like in any other country but yh this idea of spanish hot girls is a misconception.

The quality of life is relative. There are far less financial opportunities compared to other countries JFL. You might have more time for yourself and such but I personally get bored easily. I guess it's ideal for LTR cels.

I consider Spanish to be a subhuman language compared to English tbh. The only way I'm making use of it nowdays is deal with bluepilled low iq people