Bigger failo: recessed maxilla or recessed jaw?

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First one looks worse :Comfy: he looks deformed, the other one Just looks like a birdcel:Comfy:
 
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Jaw by far
 
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maxilla
 
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Btw IRL you'll see plenty of birdcels like the right, but underbite like that is pretty rare.

IRL jaw/chin is much more important issue generally. Having a passable jaw/chin is a necessity to be a human being as a male esp.
 
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i think my maxilla is slightly recessed, that's what causes my chud like lips @Gengar what do you think?
 
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i think my maxilla is slightly recessed, that's what causes my chud like lips @Gengar what do you think?
Is your lower lip overly ptrouding? It could be cause by it not having enough bone support from jaw/chin
 
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First one looks worse :Comfy: he looks deformed, the other one Just looks like a birdcel:Comfy:
Btw IRL you'll see plenty of birdcels like the right, but underbite like that is pretty rare.

IRL jaw/chin is much more important issue generally. Having a passable jaw/chin is a necessity to be a human being as a male esp.
Yeah I think the example was too extreme. This is what an undergrown maxilla usually looks like
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i think my maxilla is slightly recessed, that's what causes my chud like lips @Gengar what do you think?
I think lips remain unaffected by that, different genes are responsible for that.
 
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I think lips remain unaffected by that, different genes are responsible for that.
recession in maxilla causes muscles to sag, i did research into it, since i always got bullied for my lips
 
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recession in maxilla causes muscles to sag, i did research into it, since i always got bullied for my lips
It's true that full lips were seen as a bad trait to have, but since the 2020s, full lips have become something women find attractive. You will notice that prettyboys all have lips like that.
 
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recession in maxilla causes muscles to sag, i did research into it, since i always got bullied for my lips
Can you show an example of what ur lips look like around
 
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It's true that full lips were seen as a bad trait to have, but since the 2020s, full lips have become something women find attractive. You will notice that prettyboys all have lips like that.
is the downtunedness that noticeable? i'll have to show you some below shots and stuff
 
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He has maxilla and chin both not very forward
my side profile is bad too, looks like the first guy but not as far back, it used to be way worse but i started mewing
 
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my side profile is bad too, looks like the first guy but not as far back, it used to be way worse but i started mewing
How old are you
 
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27, i softened my sutures though
Mewing won't do anything, not that it would even if you were 17 or 15. Atleast that's my opinion
 
realize that you maxilla is apart of your jaw as well as your mandible and both examples are recessed jaws? would make more sense to title the thread recessed maxilla or recessed mandible
Good point. Which one do you think is worse though?
 
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Both over
 
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Depends how severe the recession is. If your other features are good I think you can get away with forward growth that’s a little below average.
 
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mandible
 
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Fixing recessed jaw should be less invasive
 
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a lot of people have recessed jaws irl. maybe not to that extent but its very common. second pic is worse
 
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Good point. Which one do you think is worse though?
probs better to have a recessed lower jaw/mandible since its more common and looks less obvious
 
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