BIMAX NEXT WEEK.

[normie_joe]

Going in with low expectations.

I'll post results if it goes well and looks good, or looks like shit and get botched because everybody in here starved for surgerymaxxed results.

Hell I'll post it if I die in the operating table.

I'm going with a local surgeon. Plan is 10mm bsso + 5mm lefort + 4mm genio with vertical height as well. There's a slight CCW for the jaws apparently.

I really want Ramieri but damn man, dude is double what I'm paying and that's not considering travel and flight.

Ask me anything.

 

[puffer234234]

Tag me in your before and after pls saar

 

[kevinwang19991@gmai]

may the PSL gods be with you.

 

[yhapojj]

GL

 

[champagnepapi]

good luck dude

 

[Anth0ny]

Gl wish you the best

 

[Sodoku]

You will ascend

 

[rance]

Good lucky buddy boyo

 

[Foreverbrad]

I guess the only thing you are missing by not going with Ramieri is:

1. Possibility to have some implants placed in same surgery.
2. Custom plates for jaw widening.

But if basic trimax is all you need then it should all be fine.

I take it with those movements you were Class 2 Division 1? Were you in braces?

 

[HostSamurai]

Tag me too. I am curious.

 

[normie_joe]

I guess the only thing you are missing by not going with Ramieri is:

1. Possibility to have some implants placed in same surgery.
2. Custom plates for jaw widening.

He has no functional botches afaik. My surgeon had a case with a girl who had a kidney failure after surgery and she sued him for it.

But if basic trimax is all you need then it should all be fine.

I take it with those movements you were Class 2 Division 1? Were you in braces?

Class 2 division 2 actually, because I had deepbite. The presurgical orthodontics kind of mitigated that.

Here's my profile essentially with the molars touching.

Honestly I'll take just average, normal looking jaws instead of looking like this

 

[HostSamurai]

How are you financing this?

 

[normie_joe]

How are you financing this?

Taking time off from college to work. I'm already 2 years behind my graduation schedule.

This shit is 20k CAD split 50/50 with the surgeon and orthodontist. I really wanted Ramieri but that would cost me roughly 35k which I can't afford.

Whatever the fuck happens, I just want to be done with it.

 

[HostSamurai]

Taking time off from college to work. I'm already 2 years behind my graduation schedule.

This shit is 20k CAD split 50/50 with the surgeon and orthodontist. I really wanted Ramieri but that would cost me roughly 35k which I can't afford.

Whatever the fuck happens, I just want to be done with it.

I am in a similar spot. 24 and still have yet to graduate.

 

[normie_joe]

I am in a similar spot. 24 and still have yet to graduate.

Are you working now and saving up for something? What's your situation?

I'm doing CS and I literally chose it at the worst fucking time when it's oversaturated. FML.

 

[Foreverbrad]

He has no functional botches afaik. My surgeon had a case with a girl who had a kidney failure after surgery and she sued him for it.



Class 2 division 2 actually, because I had deepbite. The presurgical orthodontics kind of mitigated that.

Here's my profile essentially with the molars touching.

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Honestly I'll take just average, normal looking jaws instead of looking like this

I guess kidney failure would be something to do with the anesthesia or other drugs? You might want to research that but probably too late now. I think it’s important to go into surgery as healthy as you possibly can, I’m focusing heavily on cardio this year.

Since we are both class 2 division 2, can I ask you for more details of your pre surgical orthodontic plan?

I am about 4 months into Ortho and he has placed blocks behind my front teeth so the molars don’t touch, which is supposed to make them erupt and eliminate the deep bite. Also general straightening and arch expansion.

I always wondered if the lower jaw was rotated independently of the upper jaw to correct deep bite during the Bimax but as far as I can tell this is never done and any CCW/CW movements are always the same for both jaws.

 

[Snicket]

I guess the only thing you are missing by not going with Ramieri is:

1. Possibility to have some implants placed in same surgery.
2. Custom plates for jaw widening.

Neither of these things are exclusive to Ramieri. He’s not one of the one of the best maxfacs in the world.

 

[HostSamurai]

Are you working now and saving up for something? What's your situation?

I'm doing CS and I literally chose it at the worst fucking time when it's oversaturated. FML.

Dropped out this semester and going back in the summer. Doing stats/data science.

 

[mtn/zygos]

Going in with low expectations.

I'll post results if it goes well and looks good, or looks like shit and get botched because everybody in here starved for surgerymaxxed results.

Hell I'll post it if I die in the operating table.

I'm going with a local surgeon. Plan is 10mm bsso + 5mm lefort + 4mm genio with vertical height as well. There's a slight CCW for the jaws apparently.

I really want Ramieri but damn man, dude is double what I'm paying and that's not considering travel and flight.

Ask me anything.

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Hope you become a chadlite and good luck in training your jaw for a month never stop ascending

 

[Foreverbrad]

Neither of these things are exclusive to Ramieri. He’s not one of the one of the best maxfacs in the world.

True but he’s still a level above random local surgeons unless you get very lucky.
Especially from my UK perspective.

 

[normie_joe]

I guess kidney failure would be something to do with the anesthesia or other drugs? You might want to research that but probably too late now. I think it’s important to go into surgery as healthy as you possibly can, I’m focusing heavily on cardio this year.

I have no clue as to the details, but she mentioned talk of a raptured sinus and breathing issues.

Man this is so fucking frustrating. But then again, even Gunson got sued so I don't know.

Since we are both class 2 division 2, can I ask you for more details of your pre surgical orthodontic plan?

Sure.

I am about 4 months into Ortho and he has placed blocks behind my front teeth so the molars don’t touch, which is supposed to make them erupt and eliminate the deep bite. Also general straightening and arch expansion.

That's precisely what they did to me. They put bite blocks behind my front teeth while they brought my canine down. My right canine was overlapping the other teeth.

I always wondered if the lower jaw was rotated independently of the upper jaw to correct deep bite during the Bimax but as far as I can tell this is never done and any CCW/CW movements are always the same for both jaws.

To my understanding any rotation involves both jaws unless the teeth are in place to allow for one.

 

[iseeblue9]

goodluck

 

[normie_joe]

Hope you become a chadlite and good luck in training your jaw for a month never stop ascending

Likely will still be a normie bro, but respect the optimism.

I think the chadifying stuff is in the realm of implants.

 

[Foreverbrad]

That's precisely what they did to me. They put bite blocks behind my front teeth while they brought my canine down. My right canine was overlapping the other teeth.

So I take it you still have the incorrect molar occlusion prior to surgery? I’ll just add a photo to explain more easily - correct class 1 occlusion would mean the lower jaw should move forward to align the back of the lower molar with the centreline of the upper molar (disregard the wisdom tooth, it’s gone).

 

[normie_joe]

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So I take it you still have the incorrect molar occlusion prior to surgery? I’ll just add a photo to explain more easily - correct class 1 occlusion would mean the lower jaw should move forward to align the back of the lower molar with the centreline of the upper molar (disregard the wisdom tooth, it’s gone).

Not only do they not align at the molars, but my midline is also off.

 

[Foreverbrad]

Not only do they not align at the molars, but my midline is also off.

Even after ortho? Does that mean they will move your maxilla (or mandible) sideways to correct? Or will that be covered by post surgery Ortho.

 

[mtn/zygos]

Likely will still be a normie bro, but respect the optimism.

I think the chadifying stuff is in the realm of implants.

And my bad for typo I meant training your jaw for a year and you won’t be able to speak you know that right and the real chadifiying is getting fillers cause implants will degrade your bone most of the time

 

[normie_joe]

And my bad for typo I meant training your jaw for a year and you won’t be able to speak you know that right

I've heard you will be able to talk and eat normally after 3-4 months. I think the year part is for the swelling.

 

[normie_joe]

Even after ortho? Does that mean they will move your maxilla (or mandible) sideways to correct? Or will that be covered by post surgery Ortho.

Yeah my movements are asymmetric. It's not the same mm for both sides. One side will move like 2 mm more or something.

The full plan wasn't talked about yet but it's asymmetric movement.

 

[mtn/zygos]

I've heard you will be able to talk and eat normally after 3-4 months. I think the year part is for the swelling.

hopefully lets wish for the best