Bimax or Implants?

[enchanted_elixir]

I recently saw this thread:

HIGH EFFORT: “CAMOUFLAGE SURGERY?” BETTER THAN BIMAX?

Many people on this forum love to prescribe anyone who has recession on this forum: BIMAX. -BUT THIS IS NOT GOOD ADVICE FOR ALOT OF PEOPLE TLDR IS AT THE END While bimax is a good option, I often see underwhelming results aesthetically, even with large movements that include CCW/CW rotation...

looksmax.org

It had me wondering. Since I'm recessed (recessed chin, and maxilla, but more so chin), would jaw and chin + zygo implants be more cost effective while achieving similar results result?

 

[ltn_looksminner]

if you're actually recessed i'd do both, bimax is very helpful functionally

 

[pashanimair]

I recently saw this thread:

HIGH EFFORT: “CAMOUFLAGE SURGERY?” BETTER THAN BIMAX?

Many people on this forum love to prescribe anyone who has recession on this forum: BIMAX. -BUT THIS IS NOT GOOD ADVICE FOR ALOT OF PEOPLE TLDR IS AT THE END While bimax is a good option, I often see underwhelming results aesthetically, even with large movements that include CCW/CW rotation...

looksmax.org

It had me wondering. Since I'm recessed (recessed chin, and maxilla, but more so chin), would jaw and chin + zygo implants be more cost effective while achieving similar results result?

Definitely bimax but the recovery process is a bit painful

 

[enchanted_elixir]

if you're actually recessed i'd do both, bimax is very helpful functionally

You're very right. My breathing does indeed feel more "suffocated".
I don't know if that's worth the money though...
Do you know of any alternative surgeries that benefit functionally?

I know this since if I face my head directly up and project my chin as much as possible and project my nose such that my nose doesn't look hooked, I breathe much better.

 

[enchanted_elixir]

Definitely bimax but the recovery process is a bit painful

But I've heard that bimax may be underwhelming. Some people may not have the bones to get the intended result + implants seem to guarantee a desired result at a lower cost.

 

[kingofkings]

Post a pic bro and help us inform you

 

[enchanted_elixir]

Post a pic bro and help us inform you

Can't post pics. Sorry.

 

[ltn_looksminner]

You're very right. My breathing does indeed feel more "suffocated".
I don't know if that's worth the money though...
Do you know of any alternative surgeries that benefit functionally?

I know this since if I face my head directly up and project my chin as much as possible and project my nose such that my nose doesn't look hooked, I breathe much better.

yes you can do palatal expansion , if you're under 15 it's pretty cheap and easy , otherwise it'll need either screws or a mini surgery , either way it's cheaper and less invasive then bimax

 

[enchanted_elixir]

Post a pic bro and help us inform you

I've given enough detail such that others can use their imagination and assist me

 

[enchanted_elixir]

yes you can do palatal expansion , if you're under 15 it's pretty cheap and easy , otherwise it'll need either screws or a mini surgery , either way it's cheaper and less invasive then bimax

How would that help if the breathing issue is mostly bones migrating back into positions that partially obstruct the esophagus?

 

[ltn_looksminner]

How would that help if the breathing issue is mostly bones migrating back into positions that partially obstruct the esophagus?

hmmm i don't think so , mainly it improves the airway

 

[enchanted_elixir]

hmmm i don't think so , mainly it improves the airway

I'm so sorry, not the esophagus but the pharynx.

 

[ltn_looksminner]

I'm so sorry, not the esophagus but the pharynx.

i'm not an expert , but from xrays on the internet before and after expansion , the pharynx seems to get larger

 

[enchanted_elixir]

i'm not an expert , but from xrays on the internet before and after expansion , the pharynx seems to get larger

Of course they would. The maxilla and the mandile is no longer in the way.
Seems like only bimax could do that.

 

[slaters]

Well if it hurts your health you could probably get bimax under insurance

But any aesthetics would come purely from implants or genio

 

[william.]

I recently saw this thread:

HIGH EFFORT: “CAMOUFLAGE SURGERY?” BETTER THAN BIMAX?

Many people on this forum love to prescribe anyone who has recession on this forum: BIMAX. -BUT THIS IS NOT GOOD ADVICE FOR ALOT OF PEOPLE TLDR IS AT THE END While bimax is a good option, I often see underwhelming results aesthetically, even with large movements that include CCW/CW rotation...

looksmax.org

It had me wondering. Since I'm recessed (recessed chin, and maxilla, but more so chin), would jaw and chin + zygo implants be more cost effective while achieving similar results result?

doesnt fix maxilla tho

 

[greycel]

It depends how recessed you are. But unless you have a rotated jaw from say Orthodontics growing up, or if you have a lot of maxilla recession, I would say stick to Genio + rhino.
Also you wouldn't need zygo implants in this case.

 

[enchanted_elixir]

But unless you have a rotated jaw from say Orthodontics growing up

i did

 

[greycel]

i did

Hmm well can you get chatgpt to trace your side profile then send it here or in DM
It'll help a lot seeing the side profile

 

[Deleted member 172421]

Hmm well can you get chatgpt to trace your side profile then send it here or in DM
It'll help a lot seeing the side profile

Let me try