Bimaxillary Protrusion, braces, and CCW rotation help

[yukinofan]

How would i go about ascending? Should I go and extract 4 premolars just like in this video to fix my bimaxillary protrusion? This is an xray from 1 year before i started my braces and TMJ journey and so far I still have the same subhuman protrusion. This shit is causing my lower face to be subhuman af and unremovable nasolabial folds. Im concerned about the side effects of extracting pre molars but aside from fixing the bimax protrusion i actually want it to make my face slimmer and smaller since im trying to go for the asian pretty boy look.

Also im not that knowledgeable but based on the xray i need CCW rotation right? How would i achieve this and maybe convince my ortho to get it done. Earlier at the dentist my ortho just went on about some bluepill shit saying i dont need to fix it for solely aesthetic purposes only and that my protrusion was not severe enough to have to be fixed since it was in the "normal" functionality range.

 

[Loruki]

bros struggling more than me

 

[Loruki]

How would i go about ascending? Should I go and extract 4 premolars just like in this video to fix my bimaxillary protrusion? This is an xray from 1 year before i started my braces and TMJ journey and so far I still have the same subhuman protrusion. This shit is causing my lower face to be subhuman af and unremovable nasolabial folds. Im concerned about the side effects of extracting pre molars but aside from fixing the bimax protrusion i actually want it to make my face slimmer and smaller since im trying to go for the asian pretty boy look.
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Also im not that knowledgeable but based on the xray i need CCW rotation right? How would i achieve this and maybe convince my ortho to get it done. Earlier at the dentist my ortho just went on about some bluepill shit saying i dont need to fix it for solely aesthetic purposes only and that my protrusion was not severe enough to have to be fixed since it was in the "normal" functionality range.

extract them for less cost or get mse and more appliances

 

[killyourselfASAP]

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[Tenzen Thenziro]

How would i go about ascending? Should I go and extract 4 premolars just like in this video to fix my bimaxillary protrusion? This is an xray from 1 year before i started my braces and TMJ journey and so far I still have the same subhuman protrusion. This shit is causing my lower face to be subhuman af and unremovable nasolabial folds. Im concerned about the side effects of extracting pre molars but aside from fixing the bimax protrusion i actually want it to make my face slimmer and smaller since im trying to go for the asian pretty boy look.
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Also im not that knowledgeable but based on the xray i need CCW rotation right? How would i achieve this and maybe convince my ortho to get it done. Earlier at the dentist my ortho just went on about some bluepill shit saying i dont need to fix it for solely aesthetic purposes only and that my protrusion was not severe enough to have to be fixed since it was in the "normal" functionality range.

What about your maxilla

 

[Loruki]

How would i go about ascending? Should I go and extract 4 premolars just like in this video to fix my bimaxillary protrusion? This is an xray from 1 year before i started my braces and TMJ journey and so far I still have the same subhuman protrusion. This shit is causing my lower face to be subhuman af and unremovable nasolabial folds. Im concerned about the side effects of extracting pre molars but aside from fixing the bimax protrusion i actually want it to make my face slimmer and smaller since im trying to go for the asian pretty boy look.
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Also im not that knowledgeable but based on the xray i need CCW rotation right? How would i achieve this and maybe convince my ortho to get it done. Earlier at the dentist my ortho just went on about some bluepill shit saying i dont need to fix it for solely aesthetic purposes only and that my protrusion was not severe enough to have to be fixed since it was in the "normal" functionality range.

get the 4 premolars removed. might be risky if you dont grow in ur wisdom teeth because ur jaw is beyond subhuman

 

[yukinofan]

What about your maxilla

Ye thats what im worried about the extractions and pulling the teeth back. It might descend me but based on my face rn and the results I see from other people like this guy indian ascension and some other cases. I think it would ascend me instead

 

[yukinofan]

get the 4 premolars removed. might be risky if you dont grow in ur wisdom teeth because ur jaw is beyond subhuman

Im actually insecure of my mandible rn from being too forward grown/downgrown lmao. Already had the 2 wisdom teeth at the bottom removed a year ago. My jaw is alot sharper now and during the XRAY I had shit posture and huge hyoid skin while having a lopsided face with my right side being way bigger than my left

 

[Loruki]

Im actually insecure of my mandible rn from being too forward grown/downgrown lmao. Already had the 2 wisdom teeth at the bottom removed a year ago. My jaw is alot sharper now and during the XRAY I had shit posture and huge hyoid skin while having a lopsided face with my right side being way bigger than my left

DO NOT GET THE PREMOLARS REMOVED. YOU WILL LOOK LIKE A SUBHUMAN CUCK FOREVER. NEVER LET UR ORTHO TAKE MORE THAN 2 TEEETH. THEY ARE JEWS

 

[yukinofan]

DO NOT GET THE PREMOLARS REMOVED. YOU WILL LOOK LIKE A SUBHUMAN CUCK FOREVER. NEVER LET UR ORTHO TAKE MORE THAN 2 TEEETH. THEY ARE JEWS

earlier you were saying to remove them lmao. is it because i already had the wisdom teeth removed. My ortho was actually against removing them to fix the bimax protrusion and it might cause some functionality problems but i cant fucking live with this huge bimax protrusion. literally my biggest failo since it makes my nose even worse and overall lower half face worse

 

[Loruki]

earlier you were saying to remove them lmao. is it because i already had the wisdom teeth removed. My ortho was actually against removing them to fix the bimax protrusion and it might cause some functionality problems but i cant fucking live with this huge bimax protrusion. literally my biggest failo since it makes my nose even worse and overall lower half face worse

get appliances, never let them take out more than 2 teeth. i was saying get them removed if u still had alll 4 wisdom teeth

 

[yukinofan]

@Allornothing @cantbreaktheice

 

[yukinofan]

get appliances, never let them take out more than 2 teeth. i was saying get them removed if u still had alll 4 wisdom teeth

i have wide lower half face and the wisdom teeth removal actually made me look better since it made it slimmer compared to it being "minecraft blocky" like before. also MSE is the last thing i want since i have a wide palate already and if i get MSE it will make my face wider and nose wider. Is there any other appliances for me except MSE

 

[Loruki]

i have wide lower half face and the wisdom teeth removal actually made me look better since it made it slimmer compared to it being "minecraft blocky" like before. also MSE is the last thing i want since i have a wide palate already and if i get MSE it will make my face wider and nose wider. Is there any other appliances for me except MSE

palatal expander, correctors, etc. you should tell your ortho you want facial aesthetics and dont wanna remove anymore teeth. be honest and straightforward with them so they can give u the best option. like literally tell them you want to expand your face and they will because they like money.

 

[Tenzen Thenziro]

Ye thats what im worried about the extractions and pulling the teeth back. It might descend me but based on my face rn and the results I see from other people like this guy indian ascension and some other cases. I think it would ascend me instead

He had a Bimax or something like a chin implant, it also pushed both of his jaw forward, just an idea, maybe you should try to fix the downgrown form, then expand the upper and lower jaw, then fixing teeth with braces..

 

[Tenzen Thenziro]

He had a Bimax or something like a chin implant, it also pushed both of his jaw forward, just an idea, maybe you should try to fix the downgrown form, then expand the upper and lower jaw, then fixing teeth with braces..

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Or something like that, need more research tho.

 

[yukinofan]

He had a Bimax or something like a chin implant, it also pushed both of his jaw forward, just an idea, maybe you should try to fix the downgrown form, then expand the upper and lower jaw, then fixing teeth with braces..

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"First of alk i started with mewing , then i got 4 premolars extracted and put on braces , i slept without a pillow and kept a correct neck posture. Ate food slowly and chewed properly. Whenever i was not doing anything, i laid down on the bed. Stopped gaming and shit. Dropped down a computer course and pursed chemistry so that i dont have to sit in front of computer all day long. Did meckenzie chin tuck and tried to sing whenever i was free , singing actually activates your tounge posture . And use to swallow a lot."


He was just fat and bloated before his glow up which hid his bones pretty sure.

The best solution i can come up for me rn is 4 molar extraction to fix the protrusion then do whatever i can for CCW rotation like hard mewing since I CANNOT get the big boy surgeries (im 18 and in 3rd world country)