Blog post about the history of the moral panic of sex offenders and pedophiles.

[MewingJBP]

not gonna read but 15ys old

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

you know boys can have kids by like 12-13 right? it doesn't mean they logically should, and it's genuinely physically harmful for girls instead. Teenagers being children isn't a legal thing, they're just not fully developed both mentally and physically. The age of childbirth went down after the neolithic due to people using marriage and sex as a bargaining tool (arranged marriages and such), but also because children were needed to be produced as soon as possible. The age of first birth in hunter gatherer societies is 19-20.

Age at First Reproduction | Center for Academic Research and Training in Anthropogeny (CARTA)

carta.anthropogeny.org

Among hunter-gatherers teen-agers are often sexually active, but age at first birth averages around 19.

16 year old girls aren't finished growing at all, both mentally and physically. Even with women their body develops until around 20 very often (men noticeably much later, mandible grows until 22 or so for example). The facts are that teenage mothers correlate with low birth weight, numerous health problems for the baby commonly, cesareans, higher instance of mortality than with actual developed women. Teenagers can reproduce, like you and me said, but it doesn't mean they should. It's just retarded and unsafe in every way.
I consider 21 year olds pretty close to teenagers. There's a clear difference between a 27 year old and a 21 year old.

It's not a myth in any way, the fact is that teenagers noticeably haven't developed mentally to an adult level and the fact that teenagers were often forced to take adult roles doesn't change this. I don't even know how anyone could idealize this as so many problems were caused by this back then. No one will ever be an adult by 18 and you can't change this because it's a biologically human thing to have a long childhood. You just want a 16 year old sex maid.

They aren't biologically adults because even 21-22 year old young adults are still adolescent seeming very often. You have an obsession with cutting short childhood and adolescence, is that a coping mechanism for something? People at any time knew that 18 year olds still were developing, they just had to cut it short

1. whataboutism is a logical fallacy. we aren't talking about 12-13 year olds. Also, 19 is the AVERAGE age. which means there could be some 18 or even 17 year olds becoming parents back then.

2. 16 year olds ARE finished growing. and so what if men don't finish their mandile until 22 (which you didn't give sources for)? Many men don't finish having a deeper voice until their 30s and don't have their frame or facial full grown until 30. so men in their 20s aren't men yet?

2. 16 year olds ARE done growing. Women do NOT finish growing at 20, that's just some societal bullshit because 20 is no longer a teen. also, i already told you that complications in pregnancy among teens is due to lack of prenatal care, and the fact that many pregnant teens smoke. studies have shown that if a pregnant teen has good prenatal care, good nutrition and avoiding smoking and drugs, they have a very high chance of giving birth to a healthy baby. in fact, the percent of teens with complications of low birth weight is like only 14% or something based on data i read compared to maybe only 8% of women in their 20s. also, it's YOUNGER teens (13-14) who have more complications, NOT older teens (15-19). also, teenagers, according to research, are the LEAST LIKELY to require c-sections. and c-sections didn't always exist and when they first did, they weren't safe.

it IS A MYTH. and teens were FORCED to have adult roles??? really??? nowadays they're FORCED TO HAVE child roles you fool. they all have come biologically adults by finishing puberty so their brain tells them it's time to do adult shit, that's why they fuck, smoke, drink, watch porn, and like their independence, but we take away their adult rights like drinking, sex, the ability to be independent and extend their childhood to 25. THAT is forced, NOT them being allowed adult roles in the old days. and NO, it did NOT cause consequences back then. if it did, society would've never had survived back then, which they DID. studies show that when teens are infantilized it causes psychopathology in them. OUR CURRENT system of infantilizing teens is what is harmful.

and NO, people did NOT "know" that 18 year olds were "children". back then, even 12 year olds were considered adults in some societies (biologically a 12 year old is an adolescent). In many preindustrial societies, studies found ZERO traits of turmoil or immaturity among teens. If we are biologically supposed to be children for the first quarter of our life, we wouldn't finish puberty in our older teens

16 year old girls ARE done growing. No, do NOT say "but muh 20s" because many 20-23 year old women aren't as grown as 30 year olds but they're still adults. Guys in their 20s often don't become hairier and have deeper voices until 30, but they're still adults.

The BIOLOGICAL definition of an adult is someone who reached sexual maturity. and the idea of adolescence is flawed because it now has been extended by experts to ages up to 25. so now 24 year olds are adolescents now. but the essential definition of adolescence is changing from child to adult. That's also fundamentally what puberty is. Once you're done with puberty, you're biologically an adult, because puberty is when you reach sexual maturity and change into adulthood. Biologically, childhood is between birth and the beginning of puberty.

Look it up, girls begin puberty at typically age 10-11 and finish it at 15-17 (usually 16). boys start it usually at 11-12 and finish it at 16-17 (usually 17).

the teen brain is a MYTH. society's infantilization of teenagers caused them to have underdeveloped brains. even young adults act immature because they're growing up so slowly nowadays. that's why in the 50s, 24 year olds were parents and married but now they still act like teens and couldn't handle being parents. Look up Robert Epstein's The Case Against Adolescence.

 

[Deleted member 9837]

1. whataboutism is a logical fallacy. we aren't talking about 12-13 year olds. Also, 19 is the AVERAGE age. which means there could be some 18 or even 17 year olds becoming parents back then.

2. 16 year olds ARE finished growing. and so what if men don't finish their mandile until 22 (which you didn't give sources for)? Many men don't finish having a deeper voice until their 30s and don't have their frame or facial full grown until 30. so men in their 20s aren't men yet?

2. 16 year olds ARE done growing. Women do NOT finish growing at 20, that's just some societal bullshit because 20 is no longer a teen. also, i already told you that complications in pregnancy among teens is due to lack of prenatal care, and the fact that many pregnant teens smoke. studies have shown that if a pregnant teen has good prenatal care, good nutrition and avoiding smoking and drugs, they have a very high chance of giving birth to a healthy baby. in fact, the percent of teens with complications of low birth weight is like only 14% or something based on data i read compared to maybe only 8% of women in their 20s. also, it's YOUNGER teens (13-14) who have more complications, NOT older teens (15-19). also, teenagers, according to research, are the LEAST LIKELY to require c-sections. and c-sections didn't always exist and when they first did, they weren't safe.

it IS A MYTH. and teens were FORCED to have adult roles??? really??? nowadays they're FORCED TO HAVE child roles you fool. they all have come biologically adults by finishing puberty so their brain tells them it's time to do adult shit, that's why they fuck, smoke, drink, watch porn, and like their independence, but we take away their adult rights like drinking, sex, the ability to be independent and extend their childhood to 25. THAT is forced, NOT them being allowed adult roles in the old days. and NO, it did NOT cause consequences back then. if it did, society would've never had survived back then, which they DID. studies show that when teens are infantilized it causes psychopathology in them. OUR CURRENT system of infantilizing teens is what is harmful.

and NO, people did NOT "know" that 18 year olds were "children". back then, even 12 year olds were considered adults in some societies (biologically a 12 year old is an adolescent). In many preindustrial societies, studies found ZERO traits of turmoil or immaturity among teens. If we are biologically supposed to be children for the first quarter of our life, we wouldn't finish puberty in our older teens

16 year old girls ARE done growing. No, do NOT say "but muh 20s" because many 20-23 year old women aren't as grown as 30 year olds but they're still adults. Guys in their 20s often don't become hairier and have deeper voices until 30, but they're still adults.

The BIOLOGICAL definition of an adult is someone who reached sexual maturity. and the idea of adolescence is flawed because it now has been extended by experts to ages up to 25. so now 24 year olds are adolescents now. but the essential definition of adolescence is changing from child to adult. That's also fundamentally what puberty is. Once you're done with puberty, you're biologically an adult, because puberty is when you reach sexual maturity and change into adulthood. Biologically, childhood is between birth and the beginning of puberty.

Look it up, girls begin puberty at typically age 10-11 and finish it at 15-17 (usually 16). boys start it usually at 11-12 and finish it at 16-17 (usually 17).

the teen brain is a MYTH. society's infantilization of teenagers caused them to have underdeveloped brains. even young adults act immature because they're growing up so slowly nowadays. that's why in the 50s, 24 year olds were parents and married but now they still act like teens and couldn't handle being parents. Look up Robert Epstein's The Case Against Adolescence.

Stop trying to justify being a kid fucker if she’s younger than 16 back the fuck up wierdo

i don’t even know why you want to get at anyone younger than 16 teenage girls are the most toxic immature annoying fucks Ive encountered while dating. The clear mental immaturity not even the physical should be a clear thing of disgust to deal with

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

Stop trying to justify being a kid fucker if she’s younger than 16 back the fuck up wierdo

i don’t even know why you want to get at anyone younger than 16 teenage girls are the most toxic immature annoying fucks Ive encountered while dating. The clear mental immaturity not even the physical should be a clear thing of disgust to deal with

a kid is a 10 year old you moralfag not a 16 year old. and stop saying teenagers are immature. so are people in their 20s? for example, you're using way more vulgar and aggressive language than most teens i've met. people in their 20s are just as immature. you just don't notice it because you're in your 20s. and stop saying they're physiclaly immature. many teen girls look 21.
if you want a mature woman go date an elder

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Stop trying to justify being a kid fucker if she’s younger than 16 back the fuck up wierdo

i don’t even know why you want to get at anyone younger than 16 teenage girls are the most toxic immature annoying fucks Ive encountered while dating. The clear mental immaturity not even the physical should be a clear thing of disgust to deal with

a 13-15 is a child? 14 and 15 are common ages of consent in most of europe.

yeah 10 and under is prepubescent but once they hit puberty they are biologically ready to breed.

adolescent=/=child

 

[Deleted member 9837]

a kid is a 10 year old you moralfag not a 16 year old. and stop saying teenagers are immature. so are people in their 20s? for example, you're using way more vulgar and aggressive language than most teens i've met. people in their 20s are just as immature. you just don't notice it because you're in your 20s. and stop saying they're physiclaly immature. many teen girls look 21.
if you want a mature woman go date an elder

Lol at thinking 16 year olds are mature You said it yourself that even most 20 year olds are immature

and don’t pull the whole moral fag shit of Muh language. some of you guys are advocating for fucking girls under 16 it’s absolutely disgusting. Like how are you physically attracted to that.

Yeah most girls stop growing at 16 which I specified not any fucking younger.

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

a 13-15 is a child? 14 and 15 are common ages of consent in most of europe.

yeah 10 and under is prepubescent but once they hit puberty they are biologically ready to breed.

adolescent=/=child

god why are there so many agecucks on looksmax

 

[Deleted member 9837]

a 13-15 is a child? 14 and 15 are common ages of consent in most of europe.

yeah 10 and under is prepubescent but once they hit puberty they are biologically ready to breed.

adolescent=/=child

It’s not common at all only in a few european ones and even then they have legal clauses stopping older people like you aiming for them which hold you accountable to the law.

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

Lol at thinking 16 year olds are mature You said it yourself that even most 20 year olds are immature

and don’t pull the whole moral fag shit of Muh language. some of you guys are advocating for fucking girls under 16 it’s absolutely disgusting. Like how are you physically attracted to that.

Yeah most girls stop growing at 16 which I specified not any fucking younger.

if people in their 20s are immature why is teenagers too far? and also some 15 year old girls look 21. it depends on the person

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

It’s not common at all only in a few european ones and even then they have legal clauses stopping older people like you aiming for them.

in italy it's legal for 14-15

 

[Deleted member 4612]

It’s not common at all only in a few european ones and even then they have legal clauses stopping older people like you aiming for them which hold you accountable to the law.

not all the countries do, only some do

most european countries are 14 or 15 btw, so "not common" is bullshit

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

not all the countries do, only some do

most european countries are 14 or 15 btw, so "not common" is bullshit

why does looksmax.me have a lot of agecucks?

@Mainländer

 

[Deleted member 4612]

It’s not common at all only in a few european ones

most european countries are 14 or 15

 

[Deleted member 2157]

1. whataboutism is a logical fallacy. we aren't talking about 12-13 year olds. Also, 19 is the AVERAGE age. which means there could be some 18 or even 17 year olds becoming parents back then.

2. 16 year olds ARE finished growing. and so what if men don't finish their mandile until 22 (which you didn't give sources for)? Many men don't finish having a deeper voice until their 30s and don't have their frame or facial full grown until 30. so men in their 20s aren't men yet?

2. 16 year olds ARE done growing. Women do NOT finish growing at 20, that's just some societal bullshit because 20 is no longer a teen. also, i already told you that complications in pregnancy among teens is due to lack of prenatal care, and the fact that many pregnant teens smoke. studies have shown that if a pregnant teen has good prenatal care, good nutrition and avoiding smoking and drugs, they have a very high chance of giving birth to a healthy baby. in fact, the percent of teens with complications of low birth weight is like only 14% or something based on data i read compared to maybe only 8% of women in their 20s. also, it's YOUNGER teens (13-14) who have more complications, NOT older teens (15-19). also, teenagers, according to research, are the LEAST LIKELY to require c-sections. and c-sections didn't always exist and when they first did, they weren't safe.

it IS A MYTH. and teens were FORCED to have adult roles??? really??? nowadays they're FORCED TO HAVE child roles you fool. they all have come biologically adults by finishing puberty so their brain tells them it's time to do adult shit, that's why they fuck, smoke, drink, watch porn, and like their independence, but we take away their adult rights like drinking, sex, the ability to be independent and extend their childhood to 25. THAT is forced, NOT them being allowed adult roles in the old days. and NO, it did NOT cause consequences back then. if it did, society would've never had survived back then, which they DID. studies show that when teens are infantilized it causes psychopathology in them. OUR CURRENT system of infantilizing teens is what is harmful.

and NO, people did NOT "know" that 18 year olds were "children". back then, even 12 year olds were considered adults in some societies (biologically a 12 year old is an adolescent). In many preindustrial societies, studies found ZERO traits of turmoil or immaturity among teens. If we are biologically supposed to be children for the first quarter of our life, we wouldn't finish puberty in our older teens

16 year old girls ARE done growing. No, do NOT say "but muh 20s" because many 20-23 year old women aren't as grown as 30 year olds but they're still adults. Guys in their 20s often don't become hairier and have deeper voices until 30, but they're still adults.

The BIOLOGICAL definition of an adult is someone who reached sexual maturity. and the idea of adolescence is flawed because it now has been extended by experts to ages up to 25. so now 24 year olds are adolescents now. but the essential definition of adolescence is changing from child to adult. That's also fundamentally what puberty is. Once you're done with puberty, you're biologically an adult, because puberty is when you reach sexual maturity and change into adulthood. Biologically, childhood is between birth and the beginning of puberty.

Look it up, girls begin puberty at typically age 10-11 and finish it at 15-17 (usually 16). boys start it usually at 11-12 and finish it at 16-17 (usually 17).

the teen brain is a MYTH. society's infantilization of teenagers caused them to have underdeveloped brains. even young adults act immature because they're growing up so slowly nowadays. that's why in the 50s, 24 year olds were parents and married but now they still act like teens and couldn't handle being parents. Look up Robert Epstein's The Case Against Adolescence.

there was probably 17-18 year olds but this is the actual state people have been in most of the time they've existed, not the few thousand years of current societal pedophilia and such

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/tswj/2014/301501/ (male cheekbones, jaw, chin etc grow into 20s)

16 year olds are not finished growing physically for the vast vast majority of people, not even height for 99% of the population. puberty in girls lasts for a shorter time than boys but physical changes alone still occur up to 20 and most girls look quite childlike until 17. also you haven't linked the studies either, but regardless of that being true this is still an increased risk and it still fucks up their bodies far more than it actually would to an adult.
that point is so retarded, you know so many 13-14 year old boys are getting into that shit right? how is that a good thing for any party involved? i was one of them and i look so insanely different it's not funny (i'm 17 now). how the fuck was i even close to an adult then when14 year old boys look nothing like 16 year olds even? Childhood is considered to be longer now because people know more now and aren't in such a drive to have children. Society had masses and masses of problems back then that were just waved for numerous reasons. You haven't linked any study.

Yes, they did know they were. 20 year olds were viewed as youths almost always back then too. Also 12 year olds have only just begun their pubertal stage for both males and females - they're closer to 10 year olds than teenagers. They're all very short and have pre-pubertal proportions, kid faces etc. Also no you just pulled that out of your ass, teenagers have always and will always continue to be like that in some way because they're just children and still in development.

They're not done growing, not even in height for many of them as the height censuses of countries show. There is a world of difference between a 23 year old (which is still quite young) and an 18 year old for women especially mentally. Changes happen physically onto 30 for men but a mid 20s man is just a full adult still.

No, it doesn't simply mean that. It means someone who's fully grown and developed
''a person who is fully grown or developed.''
You are trying to worm your way out of it, there's so many differences between a 22 year old and a late teenager. The definition is correct and will stay that way.

Girls in a healthy state begin it at 11 and boys 12-13 for most people, but neither have completed most of the hard tissue (bone) and muscle growth until their late teens, more like 20 or so for boys. This point is regardless because 18 year olds are still not mentally developed to their full capacity at all, which makes actual adults having relationships with them very bad.
Also, many 24 year olds have children and families. It is not uncommon at all.

 

[Deleted member 2157]

god why are there so many agecucks on looksmax

This place isn't .co and never will be. Go back there with the other pedocels that want to fuck pubertal kids JFL

 

[Deleted member 2157]

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most european countries are 14 or 15

Retards like you don't understand that those are set that age for kids of the same age, not for adults.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

This place isn't .co and never will be. Go back there with the other pedocels that want to fuck pubertal kids JFL

keep changing the definition of words to suit your agenda.

its funny how you go out of your way with all the "studies", yet you refuse to acknowledge what pedophilia actually is.

 

[Deleted member 2157]

Stop trying to justify being a kid fucker if she’s younger than 16 back the fuck up wierdo

i don’t even know why you want to get at anyone younger than 16 teenage girls are the most toxic immature annoying fucks Ive encountered while dating. The clear mental immaturity not even the physical should be a clear thing of disgust to deal with

this is true in every way. These people have retarded concepts of teenage girls from moeshit anime or hentai obviously, because if they knew what teenage girls acted like on average LMAO. Most of them act and sound like children (like teenage boys)

 

[Deleted member 2157]

keep changing the definition of words to suit your agenda.

its funny how you go out of your way with all the "studies", yet you refuse to acknowledge what pedophilia actually is.

Hebe and ephebophilia are still pedophilia because teenagers are children

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Hebe and ephebophilia are still pedophilia because teenagers are children

pedophilia is exclusive or primary attraction to prepubescents, not minors.

by your logic attraction to an 18 year old is also "pedophilia", because 18 year olds are children to you. just fucking lol

 

[Deleted member 2157]

pedophilia is exclusive or primary attraction to prepubescents, not minors.

by your logic attraction to an 18 year old is also "pedophilia", because 18 year olds are children to you. just fucking lol

keep pretending that a 25 year old man dating an 18-19 year old girl is normal

dating someone who is still in development as an adult is pedophilia

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Retards like you don't understand that those are set that age for kids of the same age, not for adults.

no, a lot of those countries allow people who have reached the age of consent to fuck adults of any age

 

[Deleted member 2157]

no, a lot of those countries allow people who have reached the age of consent to fuck adults of any age

No they don't, it's meant for people around the same age

 

[hairyballscel]

The life expectancy back then was much younger people had to breed em while they were prime

its not as young as you think, miscarriages bring the average down a ton

 

[Deleted member 4612]

No they don't, it's meant for people around the same age

nope

Hungary Age of Consent & Statutory Rape Laws

www.ageofconsent.net

 

[Deleted member 4612]

keep pretending that a 25 year old man dating an 18-19 year old girl is normal

dating someone who is still in development as an adult is pedophilia

no, that's not what pedophilia is at all you stupid feminist. a 25 year old dating a 19 year old is actually very common in the world

 

[Kevin Logan]

no, that's not what pedophilia is at all you stupid feminist. a 25 year old dating a 19 year old is actually very common in the world

Why do you even waste your time replying to a retarded?

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Why do you even waste your time replying to a retarded?

true tbh

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

there was probably 17-18 year olds but this is the actual state people have been in most of the time they've existed, not the few thousand years of current societal pedophilia and such

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/tswj/2014/301501/ (male cheekbones, jaw, chin etc grow into 20s)

16 year olds are not finished growing physically for the vast vast majority of people, not even height for 99% of the population. puberty in girls lasts for a shorter time than boys but physical changes alone still occur up to 20 and most girls look quite childlike until 17. also you haven't linked the studies either, but regardless of that being true this is still an increased risk and it still fucks up their bodies far more than it actually would to an adult.
that point is so retarded, you know so many 13-14 year old boys are getting into that shit right? how is that a good thing for any party involved? i was one of them and i look so insanely different it's not funny (i'm 17 now). how the fuck was i even close to an adult then when14 year old boys look nothing like 16 year olds even? Childhood is considered to be longer now because people know more now and aren't in such a drive to have children. Society had masses and masses of problems back then that were just waved for numerous reasons. You haven't linked any study.

Yes, they did know they were. 20 year olds were viewed as youths almost always back then too. Also 12 year olds have only just begun their pubertal stage for both males and females - they're closer to 10 year olds than teenagers. They're all very short and have pre-pubertal proportions, kid faces etc. Also no you just pulled that out of your ass, teenagers have always and will always continue to be like that in some way because they're just children and still in development.

They're not done growing, not even in height for many of them as the height censuses of countries show. There is a world of difference between a 23 year old (which is still quite young) and an 18 year old for women especially mentally. Changes happen physically onto 30 for men but a mid 20s man is just a full adult still.

No, it doesn't simply mean that. It means someone who's fully grown and developed
''a person who is fully grown or developed.''
You are trying to worm your way out of it, there's so many differences between a 22 year old and a late teenager. The definition is correct and will stay that way.

Girls in a healthy state begin it at 11 and boys 12-13 for most people, but neither have completed most of the hard tissue (bone) and muscle growth until their late teens, more like 20 or so for boys. This point is regardless because 18 year olds are still not mentally developed to their full capacity at all, which makes actual adults having relationships with them very bad.
Also, many 24 year olds have children and families. It is not uncommon at all.

1. actually teenagers DID used to have adult roles and rights. have you ever studied history? look up the case against adolescence by robert epstein

2. 16 year olds ARE FINISHED growing taller. girls usually finish full height at 15 and for boys 16-18. you are so dumb holy shit

3. LOL many 16 year old girls look 21. LOL fucking LOL at you. also, physical changes continue in your 20s. many guys look much older in their 30s and have deeper voices in their 30s. hell, most 22 year olds look like teenagers but then look much older at 30. they even have teenage voices in their earlymid 20s and then have older voices in their 30s. THEY ARE STILL ADULTS BECAUSE THEY FINISHED PUBERTY. otherwise you aren't adult until 30 which is dumb because that's when you begin to age and develop wrinkles and become less energetic

4. also, no, teen pregnancy does NOT result in damage to the teen body. i have read research papers. they said that if pregnant teens have good prenatal care, have good nutrition, avoid smoking and drugs, etc they have a HIGH CHANCE of giving birth to a healthy baby and their body will NOT be damaged. you're dumb for thinking that the vast majority of pregnant teens will die or give birth to low birth weight babies because it is NOT a large majority. most pregnant teens who give birth and have prenatal care, avoid smoking etc do just fine.

5. no, teens/young adults WERE NOT viewed as "youth" back then they were viewed as young adults. hell, even 12-13 year olds were called adults back then (but 12 or 13 is irrelevant to this). look it up. adolescence is a new phenomenon. prepubescent children were even viewed as little adults. and no, teenagers were NOT always like this. hell, back in the day, in the 1950s, many women in their early 20s (sometimes late teens) got married and had kids. now, even people in their mid 20s don't do this and still act like teenagers, now you got 24 year olds using cuss words and screaming at others online over political differences, being interested in memes while 24 year olds then were married and had kids. people are growing up slowly now, and teenagers centuries ago were definitely more mature. i already told you how in many preindustrial societies they found NO immaturity or turmoil among teens in those societies.

6. postpubescent IS fully grown and developed. puberty is literally defined as when you change from child to adult. if you finished puberty you're an adult. otherwise you wouldn't be an adult until 30. the word "fully grown" is ambiguous. do they mean you have to be 20? 25? 30? 35? what age does this definition choose as "fully grown". but since puberty is defined as changing from child to an adult, i think when you finish puberty you're an adult and thus are fully grown enough.

7. now you used a special pleading fallacy. "teens aren't adults because they aren't as physically grown as a 25 year old. but 25 year olds are still adults even though they aren't as grown as a 35 year old".

8. there is barely a difference between 22-23 year olds and late teenagers. i've met 18 year old men who are working to get later a phd and finish college and good grades and then met some 24 year old men who share memes all day about no nut november and cuss others out online. you can't expect everyone in the same age group to be as mature as each other. that isn't realistic.

9. no. 24 year olds don't have families anymore. it's rare. most people don't do that shit nowadays until 30. what you said would've been correct if this was the 1950s.

10. again, the teen brain is a myth. society extending adolescence to 25 and infantilizing teenagers and forcing them into being excluded from adulthood is what made them immature. it isn't intrinsic in teenagers. if 18 year olds are old enough to go to war and fight for their country, they can handle a relationship with older people. 18 year olds used to marry older men all the time and nothing bad happened. age gaps weren't stigmatized until the 1970s or something.

11. people finish puberty at 15-17 for girls and 16-17 for boys. look it up.

this is true in every way. These people have retarded concepts of teenage girls from moeshit anime or hentai obviously, because if they knew what teenage girls acted like on average LMAO. Most of them act and sound like children (like teenage boys)

yeah like people in their early 20s don't act that way.

Hebe and ephebophilia are still pedophilia because teenagers are children

teenagers are NOT children. the biological definition of a child is someone below puberty. adolescence is defined as when you aren't a child but aren't an adult yet. you can't go from child at 20 to adult at 21 or child at 17 to adult at 21. nature doesn't work that way. the biological definition of children is someone between birth and the onset of puberty. if you started puberty you aren't a child anymore. and no, pedophilia is attraction to PREPUBESCENT CHILDREN. so it isn't pedophilia. and most men DO find teen girls attractive. even sexologists confirm this is common among men. it isn't even remotely rare.

Retards like you don't understand that those are set that age for kids of the same age, not for adults.

actually in many countries it's legal to fuck a 16 year old even if you're 90. it's legal to even fuck a 14 year old in italy. i looked it up. there are exceptions, like japan saying the AOC is 13 but the youngest age to fuck there is 18-20.

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

keep pretending that a 25 year old man dating an 18-19 year old girl is normal

dating someone who is still in development as an adult is pedophilia

it IS normal. also, 18-19 year olds ARE ADULTS. both biologically and legally. they are finished with puberty. and how is it wrong to date them? people nowadays are so close-minded about age gaps. you know, back in early-mid 20th century this shit wasn't even frowned on. it was common back then. age gaps didn't get stigmatized until the 1970s or something.

if you can go to war and fight for your country, you can handle dating someone older than you. full stop.

society keeps infantilzing and infantilizing young people and they wonder why they still act immature until their 30s

 

[Deleted member 2157]

Why do you even waste your time replying to a retarded?

kill yourself

you stupid feminist. a 25 year old dating a 19 year old is actually very common in the world

Not in the western world at all (barely seen at all), it's only somewhat common in poor countries but it's becoming more rare thankfully and like the western world in that aspect.

nope

your post is saying what I am saying. it's meant for teenagers, not gross incel subhumans in their 20s who want to fuck kids like you.

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

kill yourself


Not in the western world at all (barely seen at all), it's only somewhat common in poor countries but it's becoming more rare thankfully and like the western world in that aspect.

your post is saying what I am saying. it's meant for teenagers, not gross incel subhumans in their 20s who want to fuck kids like you.

Having sex with 16 year olds is legal in some countries even if you’re 50 look it up

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

kill yourself


Not in the western world at all (barely seen at all), it's only somewhat common in poor countries but it's becoming more rare thankfully and like the western world in that aspect.

your post is saying what I am saying. it's meant for teenagers, not gross incel subhumans in their 20s who want to fuck kids like you.

Nothing wrong with a 25 year old dating 18-19 year olds. The only reason it’s rare in America is because it’s more stigmatized these days

seriously nobody gave a shit about age gaps being “bad” back in the day. Before the late 20th century nobody cared if a 18 year old dated a 25 year old

 

[Deleted member 4612]

your post is saying what I am saying. it's meant for teenagers, not gross incel subhumans in their 20s who want to fuck kids like you.

wrong, in hungary and other countries, a 14 year old can consent with a person in their 20's and beyond

sure, in certain countries, like germany, there are restrictions on dating 14-15 year olds, but in other countries, 14 year olds are fair game for anyone

 

[Deleted member 7776]

tl;dr pls, I wanna know why

 

[Deleted member 4612]

tl;dr pls, I wanna know why

basically the feminists wanna stigmatize male attraction to teenage girls so used up hags in their early 30's have options and aren't seen as undesirable roasties

 

[Deleted member 2157]

actually teenagers DID used to have adult roles and rights.

no they didn't, you have no proof of this because it wasn't a thing. teenagers were never considered real adults, they were just forced into those positions.

16 year olds ARE FINISHED growing taller.

no they aren't, 50% of people grow taller than what they were at 19 too

The final phase of growth in height - PubMed

Among 221 boys investigated, only 54% had the same (+/- 1 cm) body height at age 27 years as they had at age 19. Longitudinal observations of those boys indicate that the increment from 18 to 27 years is strongly dependent on skeletal maturation and even on such a distant event as age at peak...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

99% of women are taller than they were at 15 too, height growth stops at more like 17 for girls

3. LOL many 16 year old girls look 21. LOL fucking LOL at you. also, physical changes continue in your 20s. many guys look much older in their 30s and have deeper voices in their 30s. hell, most 22 year olds look like teenagers but then look much older at 30. they even have teenage voices in their earlymid 20s and then have older voices in their 30s. THEY ARE STILL ADULTS BECAUSE THEY FINISHED PUBERTY. otherwise you aren't adult until 30 which is dumb because that's when you begin to age and develop wrinkles and become less energetic

4. also, no, teen pregnancy does NOT result in damage to the teen body. i have read research papers. they said that if pregnant teens have good prenatal care, have good nutrition, avoid smoking and drugs, etc they have a HIGH CHANCE of giving birth to a healthy baby and their body will NOT be damaged. you're dumb for thinking that the vast majority of pregnant teens will die or give birth to low birth weight babies because it is NOT a large majority. most pregnant teens who give birth and have prenatal care, avoid smoking etc do just fine.

5. no, teens/young adults WERE NOT viewed as "youth" back then they were viewed as young adults. hell, even 12-13 year olds were called adults back then (but 12 or 13 is irrelevant to this). look it up. adolescence is a new phenomenon. prepubescent children were even viewed as little adults. and no, teenagers were NOT always like this. hell, back in the day, in the 1950s, many women in their early 20s (sometimes late teens) got married and had kids. now, even people in their mid 20s don't do this and still act like teenagers, now you got 24 year olds using cuss words and screaming at others online over political differences, being interested in memes while 24 year olds then were married and had kids. people are growing up slowly now, and teenagers centuries ago were definitely more mature. i already told you how in many preindustrial societies they found NO immaturity or turmoil among teens in those societies.

6. postpubescent IS fully grown and developed. puberty is literally defined as when you change from child to adult. if you finished puberty you're an adult. otherwise you wouldn't be an adult until 30. the word "fully grown" is ambiguous. do they mean you have to be 20? 25? 30? 35? what age does this definition choose as "fully grown". but since puberty is defined as changing from child to an adult, i think when you finish puberty you're an adult and thus are fully grown enough.

7. now you used a special pleading fallacy. "teens aren't adults because they aren't as physically grown as a 25 year old. but 25 year olds are still adults even though they aren't as grown as a 35 year old".

8. there is barely a difference between 22-23 year olds and late teenagers. i've met 18 year old men who are working to get later a phd and finish college and good grades and then met some 24 year old men who share memes all day about no nut november and cuss others out online. you can't expect everyone in the same age group to be as mature as each other. that isn't realistic.

9. no. 24 year olds don't have families anymore. it's rare. most people don't do that shit nowadays until 30. what you said would've been correct if this was the 1950s.

10. again, the teen brain is a myth. society extending adolescence to 25 and infantilizing teenagers and forcing them into being excluded from adulthood is what made them immature. it isn't intrinsic in teenagers. if 18 year olds are old enough to go to war and fight for their country, they can handle a relationship with older people. 18 year olds used to marry older men all the time and nothing bad happened. age gaps weren't stigmatized until the 1970s or something.

11. people finish puberty at 15-17 for girls and 16-17 for boys. look it up.

literally no 16 year old girl looks like a women in her 20s except for some east asians/other neotenous ethnicities maybe where bone growth stops early. Truth is that 18 year old girls aren't fully developed and 18 year old boys even more so. Your paragraphs won't change that.

You've read research papers but you won't show them at all. The fact as shown by anything you can look up is that teen births are dangerous for both the mother and child, far more than a birth by an actual adult is.

They were viewed as youths back then, they were just forced to be in adult roles often due to situations in those time periods. And no, 12-13 year olds especially weren't but 18-19 year olds were more forced into those positions. Adolescence is biological and was always known to be such, again it was just cut short often by force. Stop considering these horrible decayed time periods of poverty and famine at ideal, it's literally retarded and there were reasons why children were forced into these things. Many 24 year olds have children and families now, it's literally not uncommon anywhere in europe or north america. It's less common than before but not rare at all.

It's not fully developed, especially because puberty can be considered in different ways. You are making this far more complicated than it actually is - the point is that a person under 20 in a relationship with a person quite a lot older than them is prone to numerous predatory issues for the young person due to them not being developed enough. It also lines up with what you think because 20 is where puberty has 99% finished for both sexes. You again just want to fuck kids.

Nice way of deliberately misunderstanding that JFL. Teens will never be adult.

Of course, since development happens slower for some people and manchildren exist but there's always a large difference between 18 and 23-24 for everyone, mentally and physically. You are likely one of those mid 20s men who share memes about no nut november and related so idek why you are so specific about that

It's not rare. 24 year olds with families are common.

They should always be excluded from adulthood because they're not adults and still developing. This is the point you can't change because it's innate. Teenagers have always been immature because they are by definition not matured etc. They aren't old enough to put their lives at risk for dumb meaningless shit either (modern military), 18 year olds join it because they have no other option due to poverty, family alienation, being mentally ill etc. It almost never happens now anyways. Large age gaps weren't the norm back then even (all my grandparents-great grandparents were close in age and yours likely were too)

The last point is wrong and you have been given sources that show this.

Stop making your answers so drawn out or I'll get too bored to reply

 

[Deleted member 2157]

wrong, in hungary and other countries, a 14 year old can consent with a person in their 20's and beyond

it is not viewed as normal there at all (I have been to said country and there were no teenagers in relationships with adults visible) it's not mentioned because it happens so rarely, because most people know it's wrong. no one is asking you to date women in their 40s, subhuman pedocel

the feminists wanna stigmatize male attraction to teenage girls

it will always be stigmatized by males too because it is disgusting for an adult to find kids attractive

 

[Deleted member 2157]

Nothing wrong with a 25 year old dating 18-19 year olds. The only reason it’s rare in America is because it’s more stigmatized these days

seriously nobody gave a shit about age gaps being “bad” back in the day. Before the late 20th century nobody cared if a 18 year old dated a 25 year old

there are numerous things wrong in every way about it. power dynamic, mental immaturity of the 18-19 year old for example. It is stigmatized in countries without mass poverty for a reason.

People back then knew it was bad, they just were unable to do anything about it half the time

 

[Deleted member 2157]

why do subhuman virgin adult men crawl out of the woodwork whenever someone tells them wanting to fuck children is bad jfl
any pedo that tries to justify their mental illness should just be locked somewhere

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

no they didn't, you have no proof of this because it wasn't a thing. teenagers were never considered real adults, they were just forced into those positions.

no they aren't, 50% of people grow taller than what they were at 19 too

The final phase of growth in height - PubMed

Among 221 boys investigated, only 54% had the same (+/- 1 cm) body height at age 27 years as they had at age 19. Longitudinal observations of those boys indicate that the increment from 18 to 27 years is strongly dependent on skeletal maturation and even on such a distant event as age at peak...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

99% of women are taller than they were at 15 too, height growth stops at more like 17 for girls


literally no 16 year old girl looks like a women in her 20s except for some east asians/other neotenous ethnicities maybe where bone growth stops early. Truth is that 18 year old girls aren't fully developed and 18 year old boys even more so. Your paragraphs won't change that.

You've read research papers but you won't show them at all. The fact as shown by anything you can look up is that teen births are dangerous for both the mother and child, far more than a birth by an actual adult is.

They were viewed as youths back then, they were just forced to be in adult roles often due to situations in those time periods. And no, 12-13 year olds especially weren't but 18-19 year olds were more forced into those positions. Adolescence is biological and was always known to be such, again it was just cut short often by force. Stop considering these horrible decayed time periods of poverty and famine at ideal, it's literally retarded and there were reasons why children were forced into these things. Many 24 year olds have children and families now, it's literally not uncommon anywhere in europe or north america. It's less common than before but not rare at all.

It's not fully developed, especially because puberty can be considered in different ways. You are making this far more complicated than it actually is - the point is that a person under 20 in a relationship with a person quite a lot older than them is prone to numerous predatory issues for the young person due to them not being developed enough. It also lines up with what you think because 20 is where puberty has 99% finished for both sexes. You again just want to fuck kids.

Nice way of deliberately misunderstanding that JFL. Teens will never be adult.

Of course, since development happens slower for some people and manchildren exist but there's always a large difference between 18 and 23-24 for everyone, mentally and physically. You are likely one of those mid 20s men who share memes about no nut november and related so idek why you are so specific about that

It's not rare. 24 year olds with families are common.

They should always be excluded from adulthood because they're not adults and still developing. This is the point you can't change because it's innate. Teenagers have always been immature because they are by definition not matured etc. They aren't old enough to put their lives at risk for dumb meaningless shit either (modern military), 18 year olds join it because they have no other option due to poverty, family alienation, being mentally ill etc. It almost never happens now anyways. Large age gaps weren't the norm back then even (all my grandparents-great grandparents were close in age and yours likely were too)

The last point is wrong and you have been given sources that show this.

Stop making your answers so drawn out or I'll get too bored to reply

1. no. height stops at 14-15. look it up on google. i googled it now and it says women finish their height at 14-15. for boys it's usually 16-18.

2. LOL many 16 year old girls look like they're in their 20s. maybe you just go to a school where its different
here's some shit i found on google
http://www.cromwellalumni.com/2009/2009in08.htm (not my hs i just googled 11th grade yearbook)

3. 18 year olds ARE fully developed. they're POST PUBESCENT. if you're finished with puberty you're post-pubescent. and don't say but muh brain development muh facial bones because men don't reach emotional maturity until 43 and women don't reach emotional maturity until 32. and men and women don't lose their teenage looks and voices until 30.

4. i can't find the research papers because i don't save them but believe me, the percentage of low birth weights premature births etc is NOT THAT HIGHER. it said only like 14% or some shit for teen girls and only like 8% of women in their 20s. STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT IF TEENS HAVE GOOD PRENATAL CARE AND AVOID SMOKING AND SHIT LIKE THAT THEY HAVE A HIGH CHANCE OF GIVING BIRTH TO A HEALTHY BABY HOW MANY TIMES DO I NEED TO EXPLAIN?

5. no they were viewed as ADULTS. even in ancient israel, a 12 year old girl was a woman and a 13 year old boy was a man. in many societies hitting puberty was considered adulthood. and prepubescent children (actual children) were little adults. also, they weren't "forced" into these roles. you think forcing people to be in high school and refusing to hire them or something if they don't finish college isn't "force"? it is. you won't get good jobs or any shit if you don't go to college. and high school is mandatory. we extend adolescence up to 25 and take away their adult rights. we don't let them vote, drink or do anything but they're finished with puberty so their brain tells them they're supposed to do these things, that's why teens rebel. THAT'S force.

6. 24 year olds having families IS rare now. look it up. most people don't get married until 30 these days. if it was common. i would've seen tons of 24 year old parents. and no the average first birth age being 26 isn't proof due to lower outliers.

7. puberty is defined in different ways? moving the goalpost fallacy much? nope. puberty has only one definition. girls finish puberty at 15-17 and boys finish it at 16-17. that's a fact no matter how much it hurts your feelings. various studies have shown this consistently.

8. there is barely a difference between 18 and 23. i've met so many 23 year olds in my life and they all are very immature, they use vulgar language, cuss people out on social media, and tweet about no nut november, stupid memes, sex memes, etc. they tweet jokes. insult others over political differences. you're just brainwashed by society. you can't expect all people in the certain age group to be the same in maturity levels. i've met mature 18 year olds and immature 23 year olds. in fact, going to college for 4 years doesn't mean you're suddenly more mature. your actions determine your maturity NOT age. this idea a 23 year old is extremely different is an illusion, and you're under the illusion because you blindly listen to society. most 23 year olds i've met act like teenagers and listen to top 40 music, share internet memes, cuss all day, scream at others online, binge drink, etc, and so do 18 year olds. they aren't different.

9. AGE GAPs were very common back then. your grandparents don't represent them all. look up anecdotal fallacy. besides, my grandma and grandpa were 19 and 32 respectively anyway.

look up marriage age in other time periods. it was very common. age differences weren't rare or stigmatized until the late 20th century. nobody cared decades ago if an 18 year old married a 25 year old. in fact, the average age difference used to be like 3 or 4 years and that's only average.

10. teenagers used to be much more mature. i already explained that studies shown they were much more mature in previous societies.

11. nope. many 18 year olds voluntarily choose to join the military. they've been joining for years and nothing bad happened. many suburban teens join the military. it's not cuz of poverty or some shit

12. what source disproved my last point? look up puberty on wikipedia and read the citations. they finish it at ages 15-17.

13. if age differences in relationships were never healthy, then why did they prosper throughout history? many people join age gap relationships and they do just fine. the only reason they break up is because of society's stigma against age gaps. when age gap couples are accepted by society and their family, they're more likely to stay together.

there are numerous things wrong in every way about it. power dynamic, mental immaturity of the 18-19 year old for example. It is stigmatized in countries without mass poverty for a reason.

People back then knew it was bad, they just were unable to do anything about it half the time

people knew back then it was bad? can you show surveys back then or other data confirming that age gaps were always frowned upon?

also, people in their 20s are super immature too. you don't realize it because you're young. in your 30s, you'll finally notice how immature 25 year olds are. also, the power imbalance is a myth. many young people want a powerful person for protection or financial reasons. power imbalances can be used for beneficial reasons. if you can go to war and fight for your country, vote, etc. you should be allowed all adult rights, including drinking and dating someone much older. this infantilization of young people is the reason why people still act childish until their 30s.

it is not viewed as normal there at all (I have been to said country and there were no teenagers in relationships with adults visible) it's not mentioned because it happens so rarely, because most people know it's wrong. no one is asking you to date women in their 40s, subhuman pedocel

it will always be stigmatized by males too because it is disgusting for an adult to find kids attractive

most men DO find teen girls attractive. our biology doesn't respond to laws. even sexologists confirm it's normal and common to find teen girls attractive. it isn't rare

The Myth of the Teen Brain - Scientific Americanwww.scientificamerican.com › article › the-myth-of-the...

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

no they didn't, you have no proof of this because it wasn't a thing. teenagers were never considered real adults, they were just forced into those positions.

no they aren't, 50% of people grow taller than what they were at 19 too

The final phase of growth in height - PubMed

Among 221 boys investigated, only 54% had the same (+/- 1 cm) body height at age 27 years as they had at age 19. Longitudinal observations of those boys indicate that the increment from 18 to 27 years is strongly dependent on skeletal maturation and even on such a distant event as age at peak...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

99% of women are taller than they were at 15 too, height growth stops at more like 17 for girls


literally no 16 year old girl looks like a women in her 20s except for some east asians/other neotenous ethnicities maybe where bone growth stops early. Truth is that 18 year old girls aren't fully developed and 18 year old boys even more so. Your paragraphs won't change that.

You've read research papers but you won't show them at all. The fact as shown by anything you can look up is that teen births are dangerous for both the mother and child, far more than a birth by an actual adult is.

They were viewed as youths back then, they were just forced to be in adult roles often due to situations in those time periods. And no, 12-13 year olds especially weren't but 18-19 year olds were more forced into those positions. Adolescence is biological and was always known to be such, again it was just cut short often by force. Stop considering these horrible decayed time periods of poverty and famine at ideal, it's literally retarded and there were reasons why children were forced into these things. Many 24 year olds have children and families now, it's literally not uncommon anywhere in europe or north america. It's less common than before but not rare at all.

It's not fully developed, especially because puberty can be considered in different ways. You are making this far more complicated than it actually is - the point is that a person under 20 in a relationship with a person quite a lot older than them is prone to numerous predatory issues for the young person due to them not being developed enough. It also lines up with what you think because 20 is where puberty has 99% finished for both sexes. You again just want to fuck kids.

Nice way of deliberately misunderstanding that JFL. Teens will never be adult.

Of course, since development happens slower for some people and manchildren exist but there's always a large difference between 18 and 23-24 for everyone, mentally and physically. You are likely one of those mid 20s men who share memes about no nut november and related so idek why you are so specific about that

It's not rare. 24 year olds with families are common.

They should always be excluded from adulthood because they're not adults and still developing. This is the point you can't change because it's innate. Teenagers have always been immature because they are by definition not matured etc. They aren't old enough to put their lives at risk for dumb meaningless shit either (modern military), 18 year olds join it because they have no other option due to poverty, family alienation, being mentally ill etc. It almost never happens now anyways. Large age gaps weren't the norm back then even (all my grandparents-great grandparents were close in age and yours likely were too)

The last point is wrong and you have been given sources that show this.

Stop making your answers so drawn out or I'll get too bored to reply

also, finishing growing at 27 or something doesn't mean you're not an adult yet. we reach full height at 14-15 for girls and 16-18 for boys. reaching couple inches taller at 27 doesn't mean you aren't adult until 27 or some shit. it's like saying 27 year olds aren't adults because some men that age still have a teen voice and then have a deeper voice 10 years later.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

why do subhuman virgin adult men crawl out of the woodwork whenever someone tells them wanting to fuck children is bad jfl
any pedo that tries to justify their mental illness should just be locked somewhere

it's not "pedophilia" at all though. you keep changing the definition because your argument is shit

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

@TRUE_CEL this is the agecuck

 

[Gengar]

why do subhuman virgin adult men crawl out of the woodwork whenever someone tells them wanting to fuck children is bad jfl
any pedo that tries to justify their mental illness should just be locked somewhere

whats it with you losers crying about muh pee dough when you dont even know what pedophilia is lmfao

 

[Deleted member 4612]

whats it with you losers crying about muh pee dough when you dont even know what pedophilia is lmfao

he's probably an infiltrator

 

[Gengar]

he's probably an infiltrator

no doubt. only a soyboy infiltrator would argue.

 

[Kevin Logan]

If the law chang

he's probably an infiltrator

I think that KostyaRin is a foid

 

[Deleted member 4612]

I think that KostyaRin is a foid

probably, he called ER mentalcel

 

[Deleted member 8576]