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What is my bf percentage? Im 18yrs old, would a test + hgh cycle help with maximising my clavicles growth or is it alr too late?



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around 19-21 percent, u can definitely grow ur clavicles they close much later around 23-25
 
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19%. Before getting on test, get lean first. Most respond better when lean in terms of aromatization and other factors. Test would actually do the opposite of what you're asking. It doesn't grow bones. HGH I guess could in theory help but I wouldn't rely on it to actually grow the bone. Get on test to max out your frame with delts and a V taper.
 
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And what i forgot to say, i’ve never seen my abs in my whole life is this bcs i don’t train them or mainly genetics?
 
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bobymax said:
And what i forgot to say, i’ve never seen my abs in my whole life is this bcs i don’t train them or mainly genetics?
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Ur not close to lean enough i would recommend u take Reta with ur cycle
 
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Bishoplol said:
19%. Before getting on test, get lean first. Most respond better when lean in terms of aromatization and other factors. Test would actually do the opposite of what you're asking. It doesn't grow bones. HGH I guess could in theory help but I wouldn't rely on it to actually grow the bone. Get on test to max out your frame with delts and a V taper.
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What bf percantage do i aim for?
 
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bobymax said:
What is my bf percentage? Im 18yrs old, would a test + hgh cycle help with maximising my clavicles growth or is it alr too late?



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18-20% dont hop on gear before you achieve anything naturally, you will just be the loser teenager on gear who still looks like shit and has the downsides of gear. by the way. the physique that 90% of young women find attractive is almost always achievable naturally within 3-5 years dedicated training and diet.
 
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bobymax said:
Holy that’s lean, so it’s best to be lean before first cycle? And if i weigh 85kg right now what weight do i aim for if i want to be 10%
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75-77kg would be ideal. Reta will be a game changer tho, consider that.
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by the way. the physique that 90% of young women find attractive is almost always achievable naturally within 3-5 years dedicated training and diet.
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key point: 3-5 years. Literally everyone recovers from a test cycle. Everyone. I don't mean 90%, everyone. It's just a matter of time and if you do PCT, even faster than those who don't. Literally 0 downsides if you don't abuse it
 
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Bishoplol said:
75-77kg would be ideal. Reta will be a game changer tho, consider that.

key point: 3-5 years. Literally everyone recovers from a test cycle. Everyone. I don't mean 90%, everyone. It's just a matter of time and if you do PCT, even faster than those who don't. Literally 0 downsides if you don't abuse it
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the thing is that it never stays at one cycle.
 
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Finn said:
the thing is that it never stays at one cycle.
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Even then, the worst option is TRT of which the only downside is dependency. Most people can recover from several cycles if they hadn't abused super high doses of 19-nors.
 
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Bishoplol said:
Even then, the worst option is TRT of which the only downside is dependency. Most people can recover from several cycles if they hadn't abused super high doses of 19-nors.
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even if this plan would work out and it would be more efficient. it just wont suit this man situation and goals
 
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Finn said:
then explain. in my mind this just doesnt make sense
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You think all that is built on steroids is water and glycogen? If you build actual muscle tissue, it's staying unless it's too much for your body to retain at natty levels which only happens when you're above natty limit (5-8 years of training seriously). What's lost after PCT is water and glycogen and some mass that was never retainable to begin with like on superdrol or other steroids for shows and cosmetic purposes.

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even if this plan would work out and it would be more efficient. it just wont suit this man situation and goals
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Test works for literally everyone. Even if he ended up pinning now, at 19% bodyfat, test would help him with nutrient partitioning for a recomp effect.

Please never again comment on topics you don't have a clue about.
 
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Bishoplol said:
You think all that is built on steroids is water and glycogen? If you build actual muscle tissue, it's staying unless it's too much for your body to retain at natty levels which only happens when you're above natty limit (5-8 years of training seriously). What's lost after PCT is water and glycogen and some mass that was never retainable to begin with like on superdrol or other steroids for shows and cosmetic purposes.


Test works for literally everyone. Even if he ended up pinning now, at 19% bodyfat, test would help him with nutrient partitioning for a recomp effect.

Please never again comment on topics you don't have a clue about.
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So i can start with test now but it wont be ideal, best thing to do is reta first and then do hgh+test?
 
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bobymax said:
So i can start with test now but it wont be ideal, best thing to do is reta first and then do hgh+test?
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You can but you shouldn't. Only reta for like 2-3 months while going to the gym and learning how to do exercises properly and then hop on test. You don't even need hgh because you aren't growing your bones. At least not to the extent you want. Invest in more test to increase muscle mass rather than hoping for a miracle on GH.
 
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Bishoplol said:
You think all that is built on steroids is water and glycogen? If you build actual muscle tissue, it's staying unless it's too much for your body to retain at natty levels which only happens when you're above natty limit (5-8 years of training seriously). What's lost after PCT is water and glycogen and some mass that was never retainable to begin with like on superdrol or other steroids for shows and cosmetic purposes.


Test works for literally everyone. Even if he ended up pinning now, at 19% bodyfat, test would help him with nutrient partitioning for a recomp effect.

Please never again comment on topics you don't have a clue about.
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thank you for the answer.

my answer to him wasnt about how steroids work. i just find it dumb to suggest a steroid cycle in any form to and untrained 18 year old, that most likely wants to have a body that can be obtained naturally and to attract girls without ANY side effects even when you claim that there arent any, you can get addicted too, as i said wont stay one cycle or go crazy about the dose.
 
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Finn said:
thank you for the answer.

my answer to him wasnt about how steroids work. i just find it dumb to suggest a steroid cycle in any form to and untrained 18 year old, that most likely wants to have a body that can be obtained naturally and to attract girls without ANY side effects even when you claim that there arent any, you can get addicted too, as i said wont stay one cycle or go crazy about the dose.
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Well i have been training for 2 years but i have never cut in my whole life. I can bench 105kg tho and i know how to train. Natural bodybuilding is just a pain in the ass ngl
 
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Well i have been training for 2 years but i have never cut in my whole life. I can bench 105kg tho and i know how to train. Natural bodybuilding is just a pain in the ass ngl
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yeah sry bro i saw that you have some muscle just now. arms are pretty big. your problem is the fat. lets start like that, what are your goals?
 
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Bishoplol said:
You can but you shouldn't. Only reta for like 2-3 months while going to the gym and learning how to do exercises properly and then hop on test. You don't even need hgh because you aren't growing your bones. At least not to the extent you want. Invest in more test to increase muscle mass rather than hoping for a miracle on GH.
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You can but you shouldn't. Only reta for like 2-3 months while going to the gym and learning how to do exercises properly and then hop on test. You don't even need hgh because you aren't growing your bones. At least not to the extent you want. Invest in more test to increase muscle mass rather than hoping for a miracle on GH.
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I mean if it helps even a little i would consider taking it ngl, hgh can also help w my sleep and shit with not a lot of side effects if i do like 4Iu
 
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bobymax said:
I mean if it helps even a little i would consider taking it ngl, hgh can also help w my sleep and shit with not a lot of side effects if i do like 4Iu
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If you have the bread for it then sure go for it but don't expect crazy results like those you'd get with on test only.
 
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