Brutal honesty pls just pick apart my looks and maybe do some ratios on my face so i know what to work on other than hair and bf%

[artex]

I better wake up to people ripping apart my looks fr so I srsly know what's my biggest flaws and what it woukd cost ro fix them

 

[w2firework]

Your biggest flaw is high bf%.

Good features at a glance:

Good colouring

White sclera

Good pfl/pfh

Medium Low Set eyebrows

Good supra orbital fat

Positive canthal tilt

Bad features at a glance:

Negative/neutral(?) orbital vector

Below average maxilla

Bad gonial angle

Mandible recession

Chin lacks projection

Bulbous nose

Asymmetry in the jaw

Longish philtrum

Bad nasal frontal angle

Short ramus

Nose too upturned

Your eyebrow on the left side stops short of your medial canthus but the right doesn't for some reason. Either way your left eyebrow needs to extend ever so slightly past your medial.

If you're serious about getting better looking, lose weight. Second, DJS would be your best bet but would be pricey. DJS would fix your maxilla and lower jaw. You would most likely benefit from a genioplasty too but you'd want to get that after or alongside DJS so the Doctor doesn't botch you.

 

[artex]

I swear my jaw isn't as bad as in the images I think my fat cheeks make it look way worse, idk ill go on a 6 to 8 week cut and then send you and update pic so you have a better view as its not covered in fat. Its probably cope ill just save up 50k for DJS or however much id need

 

[artex]

Your biggest flaw is high bf%.

Good features at a glance:

Good colouring

White sclera

Good pfl/pfh

Medium Low Set eyebrows

Good supra orbital fat

Positive canthal tilt

Bad features at a glance:

Negative/neutral(?) orbital vector

Below average maxilla

Bad gonial angle

Mandible recession

Chin lacks projection

Bulbous nose

Asymmetry in the jaw

Longish philtrum

Bad nasal frontal angle

Short ramus

Nose too upturned

Your eyebrow on the left side stops short of your medial canthus but the right doesn't for some reason. Either way your left eyebrow needs to extend ever so slightly past your medial.

If you're serious about getting better looking, lose weight. Second, DJS would be your best bet but would be pricey. DJS would fix your maxilla and lower jaw. You would most likely benefit from a genioplasty too but you'd want to get that after or alongside DJS so the Doctor doesn't botch you.

Apologies for how shit the photo is but I think it kinda shows what I mean

 

[w2firework]

Apologies for how shit the photo is but I think it kinda shows what I mean

This isn't a good picture to objectively rate. Just take a photo from the frankfurt plane without headphones/beanie and I'll tell you if its that bad

 

[artex]

This isn't a good picture to objectively rate. Just take a photo from the frankfurt plane without headphones/beanie and I'll tell you if its that bad

Yea mb gimme 5 minutes

 

[artex]

This isn't a good picture to objectively rate. Just take a photo from the frankfurt plane without headphones/beanie and I'll tell you if its that bad

Nvm ur right I definitely need something done my jaw starts too close to my ear

 

[artex]

This isn't a good picture to objectively rate. Just take a photo from the frankfurt plane without headphones/beanie and I'll tell you if its that bad

Is there anything I can do before DJS to improve it or does me being 18 make DJS my only option

 

[ceilingfandust]

I better wake up to people ripping apart my looks fr so I srsly know what's my biggest flaws and what it woukd cost ro fix them

I better wake up to people ripping apart my looks fr so I srsly know what's my biggest flaws and what it woukd cost ro fix them

Your eyebrows look like a 90s women did them for you. They need to be fuller.

I better wake up to people ripping apart my looks fr so I srsly know what's my biggest flaws and what it woukd cost ro fix them

I better wake up to people ripping apart my looks fr so I srsly know what's my biggest flaws and what it woukd cost ro fix them

 

[artex]

Your eyebrows look like a 90s women did them for you. They need to be fuller.

Yea everyone in my family has thin brows i just did my best with what I had

 

[w2firework]

Is there anything I can do before DJS to improve it or does me being 18 make DJS my only option

I don't wanna fill you up with hopium. DJS is most likely your only real option. From the picture though you could get away with a genio, but it'd be a meh fix since your maxilla needs to come forward.

You can see your maxilla sucks from here too, especially given your ethnicity you should have way more maxilla projection than this.

Your convexity angle is fine at 172 but that's because everything is recessed together.

So yeah to conclude, DJS is the only real option you have for this since you need to bring both the maxilla and the jaw forward.

 

[ceilingfandust]

If you have hair loss might aswell just buzz it unless you plan on doing something about it.. imo buzz cut is better/ more clean looking than holding onto scraps.

 

[artex]

How much would it cost and is it do able in the next 2 years if my parents have a yearly income of £200k and I probably make around 13k to 15k un the next year

 

[artex]

If you have hair loss might aswell just buzz it unless you plan on doing something about it.. imo buzz cut is better/ more clean looking than holding onto scraps.

I makes me look like a nazi and im gonna get a transplant in the next year probably

 

[artex]

I don't wanna fill you up with hopium. DJS is most likely your only real option. From the picture though you could get away with a genio, but it'd be a meh fix since your maxilla needs to come forward.

You can see your maxilla sucks from here too, especially given your ethnicity you should have way more maxilla projection than this.

Your convexity angle is fine at 172 but that's because everything is recessed together.

So yeah to conclude, DJS is the only real option you have for this since you need to bring both the maxilla and the jaw forward.

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Idk if i can get any medical coverage on that idk and if I have to take out a loan of say 10k to cover everything im willing aswell

 

[w2firework]

Idk if i can get any medical coverage on that idk and if I have to take out a loan of say 10k to cover everything im willing aswell

That on you to figure out boss. I'm just here to be judgmental about your flaws, not be a financial adviser.

GOD BLESS

 

[artex]

That on you to figure out boss. I'm just here to be judgmental about your flaws, not be a financial adviser.

GOD BLESS

Thank yo brother I will be going into debt to mog because everyone knows attractive people cannot be poor

 

[artex]

That on you to figure out boss. I'm just here to be judgmental about your flaws, not be a financial adviser.

GOD BLESS

One last thing what type of maxilla break would i need like a level 1 or 2?

 

[artex]

Thank yo brother I will be going into debt to mog because everyone knows attractive people cannot be poor

I know you said youre not like a financial adviser but what would be a rough overall cost to get everything bad about be fixed

 

[w2firework]

One last thing what type of maxilla break would i need like a level 1 or 2?

2, but most surgeons will only agree to a one so you'd have to travel.

Lefort 1 would still benefit you though, it's just a very invasive surgery so maximizing gains would be best IMO.

 

[w2firework]

I know you said youre not like a financial adviser but what would be a rough overall cost to get everything bad about be fixed

If insurance won't cover it, European max it. You'll save like 50k no joke and enjoy the best continent on Earth, otherwise, Kidney max to the Chinese and sell a testicle too and you'll be able to have 100k to drop on it.

 

[artex]

2, but most surgeons will only agree to a one so you'd have to travel.

Lefort 1 would still benefit you though, it's just a very invasive surgery so maximizing gains would be best IMO.

You know what place I should ask on here to get in contact with a surgeon that can max me out?

 

[artex]

If insurance won't cover it, European max it. You'll save like 50k no joke and enjoy the best continent on Earth, otherwise, Kidney max to the Chinese and sell a testicle too and you'll be able to have 100k to drop on it.

What's European max?

 

[w2firework]

You know what place I should ask on here to get in contact with a surgeon that can max me out?

I've researched it before and there's some really good surgeons but I can't remember any of them now and not in the mood to do a 2 hour dive looking for them.

Just do your own research before consulting any of them, so you can at least suss out a butcher with a medical license. Learn the basics of CW vs CCW, is the chin lacking projecting or the mandible recessed, what a good maxilla looks like etc.

Make a bad choice here and DJS will fuck you up for life whilst the surgeon cheats on his wife with his new Porsche whilst you rope. Take it seriously. It's your life.

 

[w2firework]

What's European max?

European surgeries are cheaper than American ones especially when you factor in insurance vs no insurance so European max is just to fly to Europe, receive surgery from a Doctor just as good as an American one, and then fly back having saved money and explored the world.

 

[artex]

I've researched it before and there's some really good surgeons but I can't remember any of them now and not in the mood to do a 2 hour dive looking for them.

Just do your own research before consulting any of them, so you can at least suss out a butcher with a medical license. Learn the basics of CW vs CWW, is the chin lacking projecting or the mandible recessed, what a good maxilla looks like etc.

Make a bad choice here and DJS will fuck you up for life whilst the surgeon cheats on his wife with his new Porsche whilst you rope. Take it seriously. It's your life.

Okay I will, I gotta mog my gf and become normal looking

 

[artex]

European surgeries are cheaper than American ones especially when you factor in insurance vs no insurance so European max is just to fly to Europe, receive surgery from a Doctor just as good as an American one, and then fly back having saved money and explored the world.

I mean i live in europe so ig im in luck