BRUTAL. What retractive orthodontics can do to you.

ivan.kuk

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who cares tbh
 
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Invisalign fucked me up similar but at least it got me ready for bimax.
Was it worth the latter half of my teenage years though? :feelswhy:
 
Invisalign fucked me up similar but at least it got me ready for bimax.
Was it worth the latter half of my teenage years though? :feelswhy:
did they remove any teeth?
 
did they remove any teeth?
No it was normal aligners but they tipped and brought my teeth back hella. My occlusal plane turned downwards, mandible went backwards, etc. Literally narrowed my airway it feels like there's always something stuck in my throat and can never get a full breath, can't do intensive cardio anymore either.
Free surgery tho! :eek::eek::eek:
 
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No it was normal aligners but they tipped and brought my teeth back hella. My occlusal plane turned downwards, mandible went backwards, etc. Literally narrowed my airway it feels like there's always something stuck in my throat and can never get a full breath, can't do intensive cardio anymore either.
Free surgery tho! :eek::eek::eek:
Make sure you have good tongue and posture habits after the surgery
 
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Can reverse this with myobrace or any flat plane mouthguard, it’s cuz the dentists will use IPR and flare the teeth inwards so the smile looks good. But it gives a stupid overbite when you bite into occlusion.

The benefit of how the dentists position the teeth like this is not destroying your incisor teeth and no grinding. However, a mouthguard takes care of that too. it can also help fix crossbite if that’s an issue. Only time a mouthguard seems to reduce teeth flare is if the person has bimax protrusion.

Edit: I’m curious what the girls frontal looks like before after, sometimes that ascends during braces. She got braces for a reason Yknow I doubt she had perfect development. Just something to think about.
 
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This one is much much more brutal, and probably less fixable at least without severe intervention on the persons entire body and mouth posture. Basically mutilation.
 
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Can reverse this with myobrace or any flat plane mouthguard, it’s cuz the dentists will use IPR and flare the teeth inwards so the smile looks good. But it gives a stupid overbite when you bite into occlusion.

The benefit of how the dentists position the teeth like this is not destroying your incisor teeth and no grinding. However, a mouthguard takes care of that too. it can also help fix crossbite if that’s an issue. Only time a mouthguard seems to reduce teeth flare is if the person has bimax protrusion.

Edit: I’m curious what the girls frontal looks like before after, sometimes that ascends during braces. She got braces for a reason Yknow I doubt she had perfect development. Just something to think about.
surpirised to see someone here knowing about the use case of a flat mouthguard. What is the source of your overal knowledge on this? What is your opinion on inter oral work like facepulling and such? I have seen promising change on myself in a very short time.
 
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This one is much much more brutal, and probably less fixable at least without severe intervention on the persons entire body and mouth posture. Basically mutilation.
It is tragic.
 
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surpirised to see someone here knowing about the use case of a flat mouthguard. What is the source of your overal knowledge on this? What is your opinion on inter oral work like facepulling and such? I have seen promising change on myself in a very short time.
Face pulling has to be done with your entire body (posterior chain, SCM muscles) in order to be sustained. You’ll notice this type of posture with Barrett and depoot (and this emoji 🚶)

Flat plane mouthguard has been helping me so far but only about 3.5 weeks in. Hurts like hell but my incisors are starting to flare about out and it’s actually moved my jaw into a crossbite. My teeth only occlude on my more recessed asymmetrical side.

I think myobrace and posture can do a lot of damage recovery.
 
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Holy shit, I never seen a case like that
 
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Face pulling has to be done with your entire body (posterior chain, SCM muscles) in order to be sustained. You’ll notice this type of posture with Barrett and depoot (and this emoji 🚶)

Flat plane mouthguard has been helping me so far but only about 3.5 weeks in. Hurts like hell but my incisors are starting to flare about out and it’s actually moved my jaw into a crossbite. My teeth only occlude on my more recessed asymmetrical side.

I think myobrace and posture can do a lot of damage recovery.
Exactly. I have found intensive chin tucks to be very good for maintaining posture. I ordered the Reviv 2 mouthguard and curious to see results. I have severe Div2 Clas2 maloclusion, so I don't know what to expect as I've noticed myobrace in adults is mainly with moderate maloclusion. I also ofcourse have a big overbite.

Do you have any pictures of your teeth or jaw? I'm curious about your case.
 
Face pulling has to be done with your entire body (posterior chain, SCM muscles) in order to be sustained. You’ll notice this type of posture with Barrett and depoot (and this emoji 🚶)

Flat plane mouthguard has been helping me so far but only about 3.5 weeks in. Hurts like hell but my incisors are starting to flare about out and it’s actually moved my jaw into a crossbite. My teeth only occlude on my more recessed asymmetrical side.

I think myobrace and posture can do a lot of damage recovery.
Also, you might already be aware of this but remodeling of craniofacial structures is greatly influenced by fascia. I would look into that if you haven't already. A gropu called Human Garage on youtube are pioneering this well.
 
Face pulling has to be done with your entire body (posterior chain, SCM muscles) in order to be sustained. You’ll notice this type of posture with Barrett and depoot (and this emoji 🚶)

Flat plane mouthguard has been helping me so far but only about 3.5 weeks in. Hurts like hell but my incisors are starting to flare about out and it’s actually moved my jaw into a crossbite. My teeth only occlude on my more recessed asymmetrical side.

I think myobrace and posture can do a lot of damage recovery.
This is one of the members after fascia work
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Face pulling has to be done with your entire body (posterior chain, SCM muscles) in order to be sustained. You’ll notice this type of posture with Barrett and depoot (and this emoji 🚶)

Flat plane mouthguard has been helping me so far but only about 3.5 weeks in. Hurts like hell but my incisors are starting to flare about out and it’s actually moved my jaw into a crossbite. My teeth only occlude on my more recessed asymmetrical side.

I think myobrace and posture can do a lot of damage recovery.
asdf is right, Jason also has the ideal posture according to asdf
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Face pulling has to be done with your entire body (posterior chain, SCM muscles) in order to be sustained. You’ll notice this type of posture with Barrett and depoot (and this emoji 🚶)

Flat plane mouthguard has been helping me so far but only about 3.5 weeks in. Hurts like hell but my incisors are starting to flare about out and it’s actually moved my jaw into a crossbite. My teeth only occlude on my more recessed asymmetrical side.

I think myobrace and posture can do a lot of damage recovery.
Spamming a bit, but here's a good body fascia stretch routine too
 
I hope the difference between the first and second pic are just her jutting, if it isn't, I genuinely feel bad man
 
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I hope the difference between the first and second pic are just her jutting, if it isn't, I genuinely feel bad man
Thanks for reminding me of this brutal thread
 

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