Bulking is extremely unnatural

[TsarTsar444]

Just lol, 3 months into my bulk, my apetite shut down and for the past few days i have been eating even slighty below maintenance because thats my natural limit.

Your ideal bf is dictated by your hunger unless you have subhuman hormones like fatcels or mental illnesses like anorexiacels

 

[Deleted member 17829]

True thats probably why it feels like fucking tortue

 

[Vermilioncore]

Gym shit is subhuman ngl, girls want skinny tall white boys who smoke with bleached hair and tattoos like Pete Davidson

 

[Deleted member 18361]

Gym shit is subhuman ngl, girls want skinny tall white boys who smoke with bleached hair and tattoos like Pete Davidson

You end up being in the ‘gym culture’ and that creates the possibility of fucking girls who work out. Better bodies

 

[sub5inchcel]

how do you struggle wiht bulking just drink oil

 

[Deleted member 18819]

Gym shit is subhuman ngl, girls want skinny tall white boys who smoke with bleached hair and tattoos like Pete Davidson

Those guys have big frames though

A skinny small frame guy can only have a shred of hope if he’s gymmaxed

 

[Vermilioncore]

Those guys have big frames though

A skinny small frame guy can only have a shred of hope if he’s gymmaxed

Skinny small framed cucks just have to give up and kill themselves.

 

[randomuser2407]

Keep coping

 

[Deleted member 18819]

Skinny small framed cucks just have to give up and kill themselves.

It’s important to mention that part.

Too many people are like muh girls like skinny they forget to mention they like skinny in big lengthy frames.

 

[randomuser2407]

Skinny small framed cucks just have to give up and kill themselves.

Dude, I started at 138 lbs, I am now 205 lbs with a flat stomach, I look much bigger.

Starting point ≠ Genetic potential

 

[Vermilioncore]

Dude, I started at 138 lbs, I am now 205 lbs with a flat stomach, I look much bigger.

Starting point ≠ Genetic potential

Meanwhile Pete Davidson didn’t have to “start” from anywhere. Wakes up, gets his dick sucked and enjoys his millions of dollars. It’s so over…

 

[randomuser2407]

You only need a slight surplus.

Unless you are anorexic, you don't need to gain more than 0.5 lbs per week, if you overdo it as a natural, you will gain mostly fat.
It is much better to lean bulk for years than to constantly switch between cut and bulk cycles like a moron.

 

[randomuser2407]

Meanwhile Pete Davidson didn’t have to “start” from anywhere. Wakes up, gets his dick sucked and enjoys his millions of dollars. It’s so over…

Yes, he did have to start somewhere, he had to get famous.

He didn't wake up famous, he worked hard for it, like most actors.

 

[TsarTsar444]

how do you struggle wiht bulking just drink oil

Muh how do you struggle, resorting to pure fat is proof how unnatural overeating is (not like i need to say this tho)

 

[Vermilioncore]

Yes, he did have to start somewhere, he had to get famous.

He didn't wake up famous, he worked hard for it, like most actors.

I don’t think he did.

You see, in this life you don’t have to work for shit. You either have it or you don’t. It was his fate to have a good life. It’s my fate to have a shit life. We live the lives that we were always meant to live and there’s no other way around it.

 

[TsarTsar444]

You only need a slight surplus.

Unless you are anorexic, you don't need to gain more than 0.5 lbs per week, if you overdo it as a natural, you will gain mostly fat.
It is much better to lean bulk for years than to constantly switch between cut and bulk cycles like a moron.

Muh small surplus, yes cause in nature you have a scale and autistically measure 214.32 calories so you gain approximately 0.49879 lbs per week hew hew hew

 

[sub5inchcel]

Muh how do you struggle, resorting to pure fat is proof how unnatural overeating is (not like i need to say this tho)

do you feel the same about cutting

 

[TsarTsar444]

do you feel the same about cutting

Yes jfl, cutting is literally starving yourself on purpose, pure mental illness . Only people that need to cut are fat people but even then their problems can be fixed with a blood work and proper meds (mostly T3 or T4)

 

[lutte]

Dude, I started at 138 lbs, I am now 205 lbs with a flat stomach, I look much bigger.

Starting point ≠ Genetic potential

Slay count?

 

[andy9432]

Slight bulking is fine. Im having a problem with force feeding bulking

 

[randomuser2407]

I don’t think he did.

You see, in this life you don’t have to work for shit. You either have it or you don’t. It was his fate to have a good life. It’s my fate to have a shit life. We live the lives that we were always meant to live and there’s no other way around it.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Most actors come from poverty, not wealth. They succeed because they have talent, hard work, dedication, ambition, consistency and they really commit themselves to their craft. They have to go to a ton of auditions while working wagie jobs just to make ends meet, and most don't succeed so it is a huge sacrifice but because they love what they do, they commit to it.

Not everybody can succeed obviously, but if those people had settled for an average job and hadn't even tried to succeed, they never would have gotten to where they are today.

Also, not all actors are good looking or extremely talented, for every DiCaprio, there are lots of very average actors, it's simply a matter of building a good portfolio by being in tv shows and movies to show people that you have what it takes.

Some actors start very young like Scartlett Johansson, Leonardo DiCaprio and Robert Downey Jr.
Other actors start very old like Alan Rickman, who had his first big role as Hans Gruber in Die Hard 1 at the age of 42.
And he was 55 in Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. And he was never a particularly good looking guy, but he was a great actor.

Except for the people who come from rich families, nobody just wakes up rich, they have to work for it, some legally while others through illegal means. Even Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckberg, Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, Ray Kroc, Larry Page, and Sergey Brin had to work hard to get really rich, since they didn't come from wealth.

 

[Beetlejuice]

Legit

 

[Vermilioncore]

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Most actors come from poverty, not wealth. They succeed because they have talent, hard work, dedication, ambition, consistency and they really commit themselves to their craft. They have to go to a ton of auditions while working wagie jobs just to make ends meet, and most don't succeed so it is a huge sacrifice but because they love what they do, they commit to it.

Not everybody can succeed obviously, but if those people had settled for an average job and hadn't even tried to succeed, they never would have gotten to where they are today.

Also, not all actors are good looking or extremely talented, for every DiCaprio, there are lots of very average actors, it's simply a matter of building a good portfolio by being in tv shows and movies to show people that you have what it takes.

Some actors start very young like Scartlett Johansson, Leonardo DiCaprio and Robert Downey Jr.
Other actors start very old like Alan Rickman, who had his first big role as Hans Gruber in Die Hard 1 at the age of 42.
And he was 55 in Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. And he was never a particularly good looking guy, but he was a great actor.

Except for the people who come from rich families, nobody just wakes up rich, they have to work for it, some legally while others through illegal means. Even Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckberg, Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, Ray Kroc, Larry Page, and Sergey Brin had to work hard to get really rich, since they didn't come from wealth.

Dn rd
Life is about fate and you either have shit fate or good fate. That’s it. All else is cope

 

[randomuser2407]

Slay count?

0.

To be honest, I still have no clue how to meet women without having big social circles.

Also, I still don't look huge at 205 lbs, because I am very tall. In 1 year, I will have an above average physique, and in 2-3 years, I will look really big.

 

[randomuser2407]

Dn rd
Life is about fate and you either have shit fate or good fate. That’s it. All else is cope

Keep drinking that copium

 

[Vermilioncore]

Keep drinking that copium

You overdosed on copium damn brutal bozo

 

[TsarTsar444]

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Most actors come from poverty, not wealth. They succeed because they have talent, hard work, dedication, ambition, consistency and they really commit themselves to their craft. They have to go to a ton of auditions while working wagie jobs just to make ends meet, and most don't succeed so it is a huge sacrifice but because they love what they do, they commit to it.

Not everybody can succeed obviously, but if those people had settled for an average job and hadn't even tried to succeed, they never would have gotten to where they are today.

Also, not all actors are good looking or extremely talented, for every DiCaprio, there are lots of very average actors, it's simply a matter of building a good portfolio by being in tv shows and movies to show people that you have what it takes.

Some actors start very young like Scartlett Johansson, Leonardo DiCaprio and Robert Downey Jr.
Other actors start very old like Alan Rickman, who had his first big role as Hans Gruber in Die Hard 1 at the age of 42.
And he was 55 in Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. And he was never a particularly good looking guy, but he was a great actor.

Except for the people who come from rich families, nobody just wakes up rich, they have to work for it, some legally while others through illegal means. Even Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckberg, Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, Ray Kroc, Larry Page, and Sergey Brin had to work hard to get really rich, since they didn't come from wealth.

Either be a lean non gymceling guy or a roided gymcel. Natty gymceling is cope jfl

 

[Deleted member 13787]

@copingvolcel can you give me some gym tips? how do i start? how do i stick with it? any tips for mentality?

 

[randomuser2407]

@lutte When I said 1 year, I meant 6-8 months, so basically by the end of this year, I will look like I lift.

I also plan to maybe become a firefighter because I will meet the strength standards for that in a few months, I just have to improve my cardio and I will be able to do it. It will give me a very good income, more than enough to live on my own and get a good retirement fund when I will be too old to work and it is something I could actually do, unlike college, which I failed many times.

 

[randomuser2407]

Either be a lean non gymceling guy or a roided gymcel. Natty gymceling is cope jfl

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Look at this:

As a True Ecto you cannot look big on camera

I can curl 70 lbs for 9 reps and I have 13 inch arms with no fat on my arms. dumbell curl right? Wtf how are you so strong yet only have 13 inch arms?!? Height?

looksmax.org

 

[TsarTsar444]

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Look at this:

As a True Ecto you cannot look big on camera

I can curl 70 lbs for 9 reps and I have 13 inch arms with no fat on my arms. dumbell curl right? Wtf how are you so strong yet only have 13 inch arms?!? Height?

looksmax.org

Didn't get your point, testosterone isn't that bad for your health at all, its the other roids that are much worse. Zyzz has the ideal body all around and it can be achieved in 3-4- cycles of T while fooling around with your training and eating

 

[randomuser2407]

@copingvolcel can you give me some gym tips? how do i start? how do i stick with it? any tips for mentality?

You can read my full updated post on gymmaxxing here: https://looksmax.org/threads/help-me-looks-max.481766/post-7927218

It is a 3x per week full body program.

With this program, every month, you will add:
+5-10 lbs to your curl and overhead extension
+10-20 lbs to your overhead press
+20-30 lbs to your bench press, yates row and squat
+35-40 lbs to your deadlift

As a result, every month, you will gain 2 lbs of muscle. In 1 year, that means a total of 24 lbs of muscle gained.
That will give you an above average physique.

 

[EasternRightWinger15]

Muh small surplus, yes cause in nature you have a scale and autistically measure 214.32 calories so you gain approximately 0.49879 lbs per week hew hew hew

posting on looksmax is unnatural

you should end it

 

[randomuser2407]

Didn't get your point, testosterone isn't that bad for your health at all, its the other roids that are much worse. Zyzz has the ideal body all around and it can be achieved in 3-4- cycles of T while fooling around with your training and eating

If that was true, we wouldn't be seeing so many steroid users dying at a young age from heart attacks, strokes, or overdosing.

Drug use is bad. The only time you should use steroids is if you are a hollywood actor who needs to do it temporarily for a movie role, or a pro bodybuilder, powerlifter or strongman competing in an industry where everyone else is injecting.

For a recreational lifter who only wants to look good and be strong, you don't need steroids to do that.

 

[Deleted member 18436]

I never have an issue with eating i just eat slightly more protein and carbs check my weight weekly log my water consumption. People make it out to be allot more complex that it is Or just lack the genetics to eat allot which is possible genetics is not just purely muscle it can be to do if your body is even capable of consuming masses of food.

 

[TsarTsar444]

If that was true, we wouldn't be seeing so many steroid users dying at a young age from heart attacks, strokes, or overdosing.

Drug use is bad. The only time you should use steroids is if you are a hollywood actor who needs to do it temporarily for a movie role, or a pro bodybuilder, powerlifter or strongman competing in an industry where everyone else is injecting.

For a recreational lifter who only wants to look good and be strong, you don't need steroids to do that.

Nobody dies from just Testosterone, thats unheard of jfl, almost every you guy that died was stacking with other roids too.

Also its absolutely worth it considering you will pack on more muscle then a gymcel by just sitting and not even going to gym.

There are multiple studies on this, you gain muscles on TRT just by existing and the amount is significant

 

[TsarTsar444]

I never have an issue with eating i just eat slightly more protein and carbs check my weight weekly log my water consumption. People make it out to be allot more complex that it is Or just lack the genetics to eat allot which is possible genetics is not just purely muscle it can be to do if your body is even capable of consuming masses of food.

Ecto bodies are naturally made for endurance so they reject huge amounts of food for this reason

 

[randomuser2407]

Nobody dies from just Testosterone, thats unheard of jfl, almost every you guy that died was stacking with other roids too.

Also its absolutely worth it considering you will pack on more muscle then a gymcel by just sitting and not even going to gym.

There are multiple studies on this, you gain muscles on TRT just by existing and the amount is significant

Yes, but you shut down your natural testosterone production in the process and shrink your testicles, and then you have to keep injecting to maintain your gains, so if you want to travel, you're fucked because you can't carry that on a plane.

My point is simply that I can get a physique that I would be satisfied with as a natural so I don't need to take steroids to be satisfied with my results. I just need to get really strong.

 

[EasternRightWinger15]

If that was true, we wouldn't be seeing so many steroid users dying at a young age from heart attacks, strokes, or overdosing.

Drug use is bad. The only time you should use steroids is if you are a hollywood actor who needs to do it temporarily for a movie role, or a pro bodybuilder, powerlifter or strongman competing in an industry where everyone else is injecting.

For a recreational lifter who only wants to look good and be strong, you don't need steroids to do that.

it's much more complicated than just "muh drugs bad"

why I personally don't really like roiding is because you have to suddenly worry about much more things than just to watch your diet, micronutrients and how are you training during gymcelling

 

[randomuser2407]

Ecto bodies are naturally made for endurance so they reject huge amounts of food for this reason

That's bullshit, there is no such thing as an ectomorph. It's all simply a matter of appetite which is adapted to how much you weigh.

If you get bigger, your appetite will increase with time and your weight will become more permanent.

 

[Deleted member 18436]

Ecto bodies are naturally made for endurance so they reject huge amounts of food for this reason

You know the whole ecto meso body types was purely based on studies done on rats right ? But on another note Body types are a real thing the lean boys who struggle to put muscle on but can be lean much easier have their own battle. Myself being about to put on muscle like nothing but weight piles on i can't eat anything bad so i guess it's just a luck of the draw king

 

[randomuser2407]

it's much more complicated than just "muh drugs bad"

why I personally don't really like roiding is because you have to suddenly worry about much more things than just to watch your diet, micronutrients and how are you training during gymcelling

Actually, you have to worry about those things even more when you are natural because you won't get results otherwise.

Most guys who use steroids just increase the dose to get bigger because they don't know that if they were to get stronger, they would be able to be bigger at the same dose.

 

[randomuser2407]

You know the whole ecto meso body types was purely based on studies done on rats right ? But on another note Body types are a real thing the lean boys who struggle to put muscle on but can be lean much easier have their own battle. Myself being about to put on muscle like nothing but weight piles on i can't eat anything bad so i guess it's just a luck of the draw king

Yes exactly, there is such a thing as genetics for body composition but not specific body types.

 

[EasternRightWinger15]

Actually, you have to worry about those things even more when you are natural because you won't get results otherwise.

Most guys who use steroids just increase the dose to get bigger because they don't know that if they were to get stronger, they would be able to be bigger at the same dose.

you have to worry the same if you want to maximize the results

aside from things I mentioned while roiding you have to worry about much more, for example like kidney health and other health indicators, pct after cycle, dosages, combinations of roids and so on (unless you are a stupid fuck and just blast whatever and just higher the dose endlessly)

also strenght doesn't equal size, atleast not in 1:1 ratio, what kind of bullshit is that

 

[randomuser2407]

you have to worry the same if you want to maximize the results

aside from things I mentioned while roiding you have to worry about much more, for example like kidney health and other health indicators, pct after cycle, dosages, combinations of roids and so on (unless you are a stupid fuck and just blast whatever and just higher the dose endlessly)

also strenght doesn't equal size, atleast not in 1:1 ratio, what kind of bullshit is that

I know it's not a 1:1 ratio but it's because of genetics, not training style.

There are some steroids that can make you look bigger without getting stronger but if you remain at the same dose, or if you are natural, you need to get stronger to get bigger.

This is why if you go in the same gym for 10 years, you will see that the people there look the same if they have been lifting the same weights or have barely made any progress in strength.

Now, of course, some guys are really strong and look small but that is because of their leverages, and their muscle insertions.
The longer your insertions are, the smaller your muscles will look, even with a big measurement.
Also, the range of motion depends on the length of your limbs.
Long legs and long arms give you an advantage for deadlifts and rows
Short arms give you an advantage for the bench press
Short legs give you an advantage for the squat.

So of course, it's not a 1:1 ratio because of this, but strength and size are still directly linked because progressive overload is essential for muscle growth.

 

[EasternRightWinger15]

I know it's not a 1:1 ratio but it's because of genetics, not training style.

There are some steroids that can make you look bigger without getting stronger but if you remain at the same dose, or if you are natural, you need to get stronger to get bigger.

This is why if you go in the same gym for 10 years, you will see that the people there look the same if they have been lifting the same weights or have barely made any progress in strength.

Now, of course, some guys are really strong and look small but that is because of their leverages, and their muscle insertions.
The longer your insertions are, the smaller your muscles will look, even with a big measurement.
Also, the range of motion depends on the length of your limbs.
Long legs and long arms give you an advantage for deadlifts and rows
Short arms give you an advantage for the bench press
Short legs give you an advantage for the squat.

So of course, it's not a 1:1 ratio because of this, but strength and size are still directly linked because progressive overload is essential for muscle growth.

yeah I know all that obvously, but then explain (and I think that's well agreed on in the fitness field) why smaller amount of reps is better to get you stronger, while more reps are better to increase your size

what influences the strenght alot is muscle mind connection, which you can improve at faster rate while doing fewer reps

obviously progressive overload is a must, that's for sure, so seeing it from this angle stronger means bigger obviously, but you can still get much stronger without getting much bigger and vice versa, that's my point

 

[randomuser2407]

yeah I know all that obvously, but then explain (and I think that's well agreed on in the fitness field) why smaller amount of reps is better to get you stronger, while more reps are better to increase your size

what influences the strenght alot is muscle mind connection, which you can improve at faster rate while doing fewer reps

obviously progressive overload is a must, that's for sure, so seeing it from this angle stronger means bigger obviously, but you can still get much stronger without getting much bigger and vice versa, that's my point

You sound like you've been listening to a lot of fake natties like Ryan Humiston.







The only difference between low reps and high reps is the intensity vs volume aspect. If you do low reps, you get less volume and more intensity, if you do high reps, you get more volume and less intensity.

The best way to make an optimal program is to use evolving rep ranges by using both high reps and low reps in the program to maximize the rate of progression. There are many videos on this topic.





The main reason why powerlifters don't look very aesthetic is because they tend to be at a very high body fat percentage and they restrict their training to the big 3 (bench press, low bar squat and deadlift) and in doing so they neglect muscles like the lats, shoulders, biceps, triceps and quads which makes them look more narrow and small.
Also, they tend to have genetics that give them better relative strength by giving them more strength than size pound for pound.

 

[EasternRightWinger15]

You sound like you've been listening to a lot of fake natties like Ryan Humiston.







The only difference between low reps and high reps is the intensity vs volume aspect. If you do low reps, you get less volume and more intensity, if you do high reps, you get more volume and less intensity.

The best way to make an optimal program is to use evolving rep ranges by using both high reps and low reps in the program to maximize the rate of progression. There are many videos on this topic.





The main reason why powerlifters don't look very aesthetic is because they tend to be at a very high body fat percentage and they restrict their training to the big 3 (bench press, low bar squat and deadlift) and in doing so they neglect muscles like the lats, shoulders, biceps, triceps and quads which makes them look more narrow.
Also, they tend to have genetics that give them better relative strength by giving them more strength than size pound for pound.

nah I never heard about him tbh and I'm too tired to countinue with this discussion today, what I'll just say that personally I do combination of these two approaches because I like variety, and while I try to focus more on the size, getting that new PR on benchpress is just a too good feeling to get rid of that for me completely

yeah and that with powerlifters and bodyfat, that's obvious

 

[randomuser2407]

nah I never heard about him tbh and I'm too tired to countinue with this discussion today, what I'll just say that personally I do combination of these two approaches because I like variety, and while I try to focus more on the size, getting that new PR on benchpress is just a too good feeling to get rid of that for me completely

yeah and that with powerlifters and bodyfat, that's obvious

What are your numbers on bench press, squat, deadlift, overhead press, row, pull up, curl, and overhead extension?

 

[EasternRightWinger15]

What are your numbers on bench press, squat, deadlift, overhead press, row, pull up, curl, and overhead extension?

one reps maxes: benchpress 140 kg, squat 160 kg, deadlift 180 kg, overhead press 95 kg and others I even don't know 1 rep max or don't do these excercises

pullups I have 14 reps with my bw, I can generally press much better than pull because of my shorter arms

what about you?