But but LL will cripple you. But but if you go over 12cm you will be a cripple

[AustrianMogger]

Guys.
You are all bluepilled cucks
Anyone who says you will be crippled after LL IF YOUR BONES ARE FUSED
is a FUCKING MORON.
I have YET to see a case where this has happend.
You guys are all coping hard.
He did actually 22cm 11cm femur, 11cm tibia. Not sure why he says 20cm.
First time LON FEMUR. Then tibia with becker.
Both everyone was coping saying he will be crippled.
Yet this "cripple" has a higher smv than 99% of you guys.
You will never learn.
No bones no life.
If your bones are healed after LL you are healed.
At worst you will get joint problems if your T/F Ratio is too shit at fucking 70.

 

[iwishpeoplewerekind]

nigga went from 5'7 to 6'4 and looks great asff, LL is lifefuel

 

[popocel]

I have YET to see a case where this has happend.
You guys are all coping hard.

This has happened to many people who got nonunion or bone infection that hasn't gotten treated in the right time so its depends on ur luck i guess

 

[Aloof]

he walks weird tbh

 

[koops]

Hopefully one day we will reach 30cm, I need it so bad

 

[AustrianMogger]

This has happened to many people who got nonunion or bone infection that hasn't gotten treated in the right time so its depends on ur luck i guess

Yes again if you get non Union its over.
But non unions are tretable easily even

 

[AustrianMogger]

he walks weird tbh

Cope

 

[popocel]

Yes again if you get non Union its over.
But non unions are tretable easily even

It depends but if the bone is still not fusing together after treatment they usually remove the nail and put ur bones back together so you'll lose all the height u gained from LL

 

[AustrianMogger]

It depends but if the bone is still not fusing together after treatment they usually remove the nail and put ur bones back together so you'll lose all the height u gained from LL

no they use a bone graft or give you a tansport nail

 

[Jgns]

Guys.
You are all bluepilled cucks
Anyone who says you will be crippled after LL IF YOUR BONES ARE FUSED
is a FUCKING MORON.
I have YET to see a case where this has happend.
You guys are all coping hard.
He did actually 22cm 11cm femur, 11cm tibia. Not sure why he says 20cm.
First time LON FEMUR. Then tibia with becker.
Both everyone was coping saying he will be crippled.
Yet this "cripple" has a higher smv than 99% of you guys.
You will never learn.
No bones no life.
If your bones are healed after LL you are healed.
At worst you will get joint problems if your T/F Ratio is too shit at fucking 70.

Dude looks way better now holy shit and i mean who reallly cares if u walk a lil wonky at 6’4 tall guys walk wonky alot of the time

 

[Saint Casanova]

They’re coping because most people are broke here. It’s pretty safe, very high ROI but very expensive.

Thats why priority should be getting your money up

 

[AustrianMogger]

It depends but if the bone is still not fusing together after treatment they usually remove the nail and put ur bones back together so you'll lose all the height u gained from LL

And again.
The topic of this thread was:
Show me a guy that got crippled once his bones healed.
If the surgeon uses a proper breaking device (drill) and you arent a subhuman (those who just cant heal)
Then when you do exogen + hbot + trizerpatide you are guranteed to heal.
Heck i healed in 1 month after lengthening ended and i drank during it.

 

[Lookologist003]

The joke for manlets just keeps getting worse. Imagine the manlet who is 5'6 is sharing the room with a 5'10 normie. Yeeouch! If that manlet could walk he'd probably go to the roof and toss himself off.

 

[Lookologist003]

Dude looks way better now holy shit and i mean who reallly cares if u walk a lil wonky at 6’4 tall guys walk wonky alot of the time

What if you wanted to play sport or kick a ball with your son?

 

[Centurion Hunter]

Guys.
You are all bluepilled cucks
Anyone who says you will be crippled after LL IF YOUR BONES ARE FUSED
is a FUCKING MORON.
I have YET to see a case where this has happend.
You guys are all coping hard.
He did actually 22cm 11cm femur, 11cm tibia. Not sure why he says 20cm.
First time LON FEMUR. Then tibia with becker.
Both everyone was coping saying he will be crippled.
Yet this "cripple" has a higher smv than 99% of you guys.
You will never learn.
No bones no life.
If your bones are healed after LL you are healed.
At worst you will get joint problems if your T/F Ratio is too shit at fucking 70.

did this guys proportions improve?

 

[Jeiko]

T/F Ratio

What is this T/F ratio, how to measure it and how can you have problems in the future with that after a LL ?

 

[Lookologist003]

What is this T/F ratio, how to measure it and how can you have problems in the future with that after a LL ?

Tibia to femur. How long your shins are compared to how long your thighs are. You measure it with tape.

 

[AustrianMogger]

What if you wanted to play sport or kick a ball with your son?

he can??

 

[abr0812]

Guys.
You are all bluepilled cucks
Anyone who says you will be crippled after LL IF YOUR BONES ARE FUSED
is a FUCKING MORON.
I have YET to see a case where this has happend.
You guys are all coping hard.
He did actually 22cm 11cm femur, 11cm tibia. Not sure why he says 20cm.
First time LON FEMUR. Then tibia with becker.
Both everyone was coping saying he will be crippled.
Yet this "cripple" has a higher smv than 99% of you guys.
You will never learn.
No bones no life.
If your bones are healed after LL you are healed.
At worst you will get joint problems if your T/F Ratio is too shit at fucking 70.

doesnt lls give u permanent arthritis?

 

[Paul.jnxy]

Guys.
You are all bluepilled cucks
Anyone who says you will be crippled after LL IF YOUR BONES ARE FUSED
is a FUCKING MORON.
I have YET to see a case where this has happend.
You guys are all coping hard.
He did actually 22cm 11cm femur, 11cm tibia. Not sure why he says 20cm.
First time LON FEMUR. Then tibia with becker.
Both everyone was coping saying he will be crippled.
Yet this "cripple" has a higher smv than 99% of you guys.
You will never learn.
No bones no life.
If your bones are healed after LL you are healed.
At worst you will get joint problems if your T/F Ratio is too shit at fucking 70.

Austrian mogger go away, be a pedo another day (high quality thread)

 

[async]

haha he is walking like a retard, have fun with ur broken legs to still get no slays.

 

[Jason5000]

Guys.
You are all bluepilled cucks
Anyone who says you will be crippled after LL IF YOUR BONES ARE FUSED
is a FUCKING MORON.
I have YET to see a case where this has happend.
You guys are all coping hard.
He did actually 22cm 11cm femur, 11cm tibia. Not sure why he says 20cm.
First time LON FEMUR. Then tibia with becker.
Both everyone was coping saying he will be crippled.
Yet this "cripple" has a higher smv than 99% of you guys.
You will never learn.
No bones no life.
If your bones are healed after LL you are healed.
At worst you will get joint problems if your T/F Ratio is too shit at fucking 70.

exactly. LL is a godsend and it has been around for 30 years the techniques have improved since then. Complications are rare and if managed properly by the right surgeons and recovery is done correctly it should be fine. I am saving up for it.

 

[Jgns]

What if you wanted to play sport or kick a ball with your son?

Niggaaa fuck my son

 

[TheEndTimesAreHere]

Guys.
You are all bluepilled cucks
Anyone who says you will be crippled after LL IF YOUR BONES ARE FUSED
is a FUCKING MORON.
I have YET to see a case where this has happend.
You guys are all coping hard.
He did actually 22cm 11cm femur, 11cm tibia. Not sure why he says 20cm.
First time LON FEMUR. Then tibia with becker.
Both everyone was coping saying he will be crippled.
Yet this "cripple" has a higher smv than 99% of you guys.
You will never learn.
No bones no life.
If your bones are healed after LL you are healed.
At worst you will get joint problems if your T/F Ratio is too shit at fucking 7

The main danger of LL is the stretching of muscles, tendons and neurons. Not bone, an increase of an inch in shin and femur is possible and very safe. 20cm increase of the legs however stretches the neurons to their limit I'd think. And then you can get stuff like pain, loss of sensation and, scariest of them all, loss of motor control.

As a question, have you thought about this?

I myself btw am going to get at least 4cm, I'm 188cm rn, circa 193 is ideal though.

 

[Peco]

I have YET to see a case where this has happend.

Maybe because they don't post themselves on the internet if things go terribly wrong

 

[Peco]

The main danger of LL is the stretching of muscles, tendons and neurons. Not bone, an increase of an inch in shin and femur is possible and very safe. 20cm increase of the legs however stretches the neurons to their limit I'd think. And then you can get stuff like pain, loss of sensation and, scariest of them all, loss of motor control.

As a question, have you thought about this?

I myself btw am going to get at least 4cm, I'm 188cm rn, circa 193 is ideal though.

Are you seriously thinking about LL at 188 cm ?

 

[Jgns]

Are you seriously thinking about LL at 188 cm ?

Nigga must live in the netherlands hes getting heightmogged by ten year old foids there

 

[Peco]

Nigga must live in the netherlands hes getting heightmogged by ten year old foids there

There is absolutely no reason to get LL at 188 cm, no matter where you live. You are mentally ill if you think otherwise

 

[Jgns]

There is absolutely no reason to get LL at 188 cm, no matter where you live. You are mentally ill if you think otherwise

It was a joke negro 🫩

 

[Peco]

It was a joke negro 🫩

Yeah I know I was just trying to make my point clearer.

 

[TheEndTimesAreHere]

Nigga must live in the netherlands hes getting heightmogged by ten year old foids there

Correct! the 10Yo foids in fact do not heightmog me, but the prevalence of 2m giants is absurd. Does make the rest of the world kind of a heightmog playground! : D

 

[Jgns]

Correct! the 10Yo foids in fact do not heightmog me, but the prevalence of 2m giants is absurd. Does make the rest of the world kind of a heightmog playground! : D

And then i walk in

 

[TheEndTimesAreHere]

Are you seriously thinking about LL at 188 cm ?

As you can read in my initial post, the dangers are quite low the taller you get. It's basically a free (health wise) boost to SMV. I have the finances for it, so it seems like a no brainer.

 

[TheEndTimesAreHere]

And then i walk in

hahaha, in my mind anyone who has an anime pfp will not be amog. No offense

 

[Peco]

As you can read in my initial post, the dangers are quite low the taller you get. It's basically a free (health wise) boost to SMV. I have the finances for it, so it seems like a no brainer.

I think you would much rather spend that on something else rather than a 4cm increase when you are already really tall but it's your money, you do you.

 

[TheEndTimesAreHere]

I think you would much rather spend that on something else rather than a 4cm increase when you are already really tall but it's your money, you do you.

Would generally agree, a higher roi can probably be found somewhere else. But that's the case for the majority of people.

 

[Jgns]

hahaha, in my mind anyone who has an anime pfp will not be amog. No offense

It’s kira Yoshiiage from jojos high t asfff I’m an mmtn rn maybe hmtn Irl sometimes going to hardmax till mhtn soon tho hopefully dude. Gt mogg niggggaaaa

 

[Acquiescence]

Just have 200k theorem brutal brutal

 

[AustrianMogger]

The main danger of LL is the stretching of muscles, tendons and neurons. Not bone, an increase of an inch in shin and femur is possible and very safe. 20cm increase of the legs however stretches the neurons to their limit I'd think. And then you can get stuff like pain, loss of sensation and, scariest of them all, loss of motor control.

As a question, have you thought about this?

I myself btw am going to get at least 4cm, I'm 188cm rn, circa 193 is ideal though.

You are a very stupid and low iq Individual.
Neurons?
You dont know what you are talking about.
You mean NERVES you idiot.
First of all, i have never head of a guy losing Motor control functions due to LL.
How should that even work? Maybe if you lengthen at 3mm a day but your nerven dont snap
At worst they get some nerve pain.
Second or all your take is idiotic.
Muscles, Nerves and tendons grow too. They build new cels. Only Problem might be going too fast. If you dont go to turky no surgeon will let you do over 1.5mm on femur or 1mm on tibia so that doesnt happen.
About the lenghtening i would say if your not some athletic Performance autist like some guys on the ll discord, 7cm femur or 7cm tibia (with a wb nail) are doable and will let you retain all your capbailities.
Also the soft tissue normales a lot. After 1 year it will be like a natural growth from the tissue side if they didnt get damaged too much during distraction.
So 20cm or even 30cm are possible just not in one go.

 

[AustrianMogger]

There is absolutely no reason to get LL at 188 cm, no matter where you live. You are mentally ill if you think otherwise

Nigger

Would generally agree, a higher roi can probably be found somewhere else. But that's the case for the majority of people.

Ur literally this guy
Have never seen such a cucked Individual.

 

[Peco]

You are a very stupid and low iq Individual.
Neurons?
You dont know what you are talking about.
You mean NERVES you idiot.
First of all, i have never head of a guy losing Motor control functions due to LL.
How should that even work? Maybe if you lengthen at 3mm a day but your nerven dont snap
At worst they get some nerve pain.
Second or all your take is idiotic.
Muscles, Nerves and tendons grow too. They build new cels. Only Problem might be going too fast. If you dont go to turky no surgeon will let you do over 1.5mm on femur or 1mm on tibia so that doesnt happen.
About the lenghtening i would say if your not some athletic Performance autist like some guys on the ll discord, 7cm femur or 7cm tibia (with a wb nail) are doable and will let you retain all your capbailities.
Also the soft tissue normales a lot. After 1 year it will be like a natural growth from the tissue side if they didnt get damaged too much during distraction.
So 20cm or even 30cm are possible just not in one go.

It's so obvious that trying to increase the length of your legs by 20 or even 30 cm after you are already done growing cannot be good for you.

 

[AustrianMogger]

It's so obvious that trying to increase the length of your femur and tibia by 20 or even 30 cm after you are already done growing cannot be good for you.

Idiotic.
I dont mean in 1 Session.
Read what i wrote.
If you do 2 osteotomies for 20cm or 3 ostotomies per bone for 30cm it is easily possible.
This surgery has been done on dwarfs for decades externally with this thought process.
Again for your body and bones there is no difference between growing your leg bones by 10cm each during puberty or lenghtening them by 20cm each. Only difference is the speed hence you can get muscle tears or if you are a subhuman then you get nerve pain.
That is why i said dont do more than 7cm in one Session and dont lenghten more than 1mm a day.

Stop the cap

 

[AustrianMogger]

Get LL or cope further

 

[TheEndTimesAreHere]

You are a very stupid and low iq Individual.
Neurons?
You dont know what you are talking about.
You mean NERVES you idiot.
First of all, i have never head of a guy losing Motor control functions due to LL.
How should that even work? Maybe if you lengthen at 3mm a day but your nerven dont snap
At worst they get some nerve pain.
Second or all your take is idiotic.
Muscles, Nerves and tendons grow too. They build new cels. Only Problem might be going too fast. If you dont go to turky no surgeon will let you do over 1.5mm on femur or 1mm on tibia so that doesnt happen.
About the lenghtening i would say if your not some athletic Performance autist like some guys on the ll discord, 7cm femur or 7cm tibia (with a wb nail) are doable and will let you retain all your capbailities.
Also the soft tissue normales a lot. After 1 year it will be like a natural growth from the tissue side if they didnt get damaged too much during distraction.
So 20cm or even 30cm are possible just not in one go.

English is not my first language, neurons are also the building blocks of nerves btw, so I am technically still correct. But let us not get into that.

'First of all, i have never head of a guy losing Motor control functions due to LL.'

Welp, ya retard that doesnt mean it isn't a realistic outcome of agressive lengthening. The axon heal way slower and are the actual danger of the procedure. The guy you showed is really agressive and dangerous in his lengthening. Long term damage to nerves is a very realistic danger of LL.

'Muscles, Nerves and tendons grow too.' I never said that they didn't, but they mainly get stretched, and you hope for as little stretching and as much remodeling as possible. Complete return to original function in unlikely, and long term damage to nerves becomes more and more likely the more you lengthen. Nerves can only stretch 6-8% before structural damage.

The stretching can lower blood flow resulting in scar tissue forming instead of the muscle reforming.

'Also the soft tissue normales a lot. After 1 year it will be like a natural growth from the tissue side if they didnt get damaged too much during distraction.' WTF is this sentence, so IF they didnt get 'damaged too much', nice and specific dickwad! Full normalisation is very unlikely and this remark really shows your knowledge about LL.

Your entire assesment really shows some wishful thinking. You even say a 7 cm increase in both bones is decently safe (which I would agree with) and then cunclude that 30cm! is a safe length if you give it (how much time?) amount of time to heal. With healing periods and the slow nature of LL 30 cm will have you in a wheelchair for years upon years.

To end I'd think you're trying to talk yourself into this whole 30cm increase concept, some real mental illness shit. You do you, but the roi at that point is awful.

 

[TheEndTimesAreHere]

It's so obvious that trying to increase the length of your legs by 20 or even 30 cm after you are already done growing cannot be good for you.

Yea idk what this austrian guy is on. The anime girl pfp kind of gives the mental illness away. I just want to respond since what he's suggesting is dangerous and absurd.

 

[Peco]

Idiotic.
I dont mean in 1 Session.
Read what i wrote.

Yeah obviously

If you do 2 osteotomies for 20cm or 3 ostotomies per bone for 30cm it is easily possible.
This surgery has been done on dwarfs for decades externally with this thought process.
Again for your body and bones there is no difference between growing your leg bones by 10cm each during puberty or lenghtening them by 20cm each.

Obviously not, one is a naturally occurring risk free process that affects the whole body, not only the legs, the other a response to an artificial fracture. It's not the same mechanism

Only difference is the speed hence you can get muscle tears or if you are a subhuman then you get nerve pain.
That is why i said dont do more than 7cm in one Session and dont lenghten more than 1mm a day.

Stop the cap

You won't even be able to run most likely and in some cases walk. Your movements will be impaired. And then there is obviously the risk of nerve damage like you said and I'm sure many others as well, like your bones not healing properly

 

[Peco]

Yea idk what this austrian guy is on. The anime girl pfp kind of gives the mental illness away. I just want to respond since what he's suggesting is dangerous and absurd.

Yeah you definitely know more about LL than me, I never had issues with height so I never even looked into it, so it's good that you replied with a more detailed explanation.

Even then I don't think you need to know much about LL to understand that a 20 or especially 30 cm increase is absurd and not sustainable for someone who is done growing.

 

[TheEndTimesAreHere]

Idiotic.
I dont mean in 1 Session.
Read what i wrote.
If you do 2 osteotomies for 20cm or 3 ostotomies per bone for 30cm it is easily possible.
This surgery has been done on dwarfs for decades externally with this thought process.
Again for your body and bones there is no difference between growing your leg bones by 10cm each during puberty or lenghtening them by 20cm each. Only difference is the speed hence you can get muscle tears or if you are a subhuman then you get nerve pain.
That is why i said dont do more than 7cm in one Session and dont lenghten more than 1mm a day.

Stop the cap

I really dont want to be mean to each other, we just have two different views. If you see nerve pain as possible, then you surely can see that motor function is also at risk. I would say that a 7cm increase in one surgery is reaching. 4 cm per surgery should be the max imo.

 

[TheEndTimesAreHere]

Nigger

View attachment 5188615
Ur literally this guy
Have never seen such a cucked Individual.

Really hoped someone with such a high rep would be more serious. What are your goals in LL?

 

[AustrianMogger]

English is not my first language, neurons are also the building blocks of nerves btw, so I am technically still correct. But let us not get into that.

'First of all, i have never head of a guy losing Motor control functions due to LL.'

Welp, ya retard that doesnt mean it isn't a realistic outcome of agressive lengthening. The axon heal way slower and are the actual danger of the procedure. The guy you showed is really agressive and dangerous in his lengthening. Long term damage to nerves is a very realistic danger of LL.

'Muscles, Nerves and tendons grow too.' I never said that they didn't, but they mainly get stretched, and you hope for as little stretching and as much remodeling as possible. Complete return to original function in unlikely, and long term damage to nerves becomes more and more likely the more you lengthen. Nerves can only stretch 6-8% before structural damage.

The stretching can lower blood flow resulting in scar tissue forming instead of the muscle reforming.

'Also the soft tissue normales a lot. After 1 year it will be like a natural growth from the tissue side if they didnt get damaged too much during distraction.' WTF is this sentence, so IF they didnt get 'damaged too much', nice and specific dickwad! Full normalisation is very unlikely and this remark really shows your knowledge about LL.

Your entire assesment really shows some wishful thinking. You even say a 7 cm increase in both bones is decently safe (which I would agree with) and then cunclude that 30cm! is a safe length if you give it (how much time?) amount of time to heal. With healing periods and the slow nature of LL 30 cm will have you in a wheelchair for years upon years.

To end I'd think you're trying to talk yourself into this whole 30cm increase concept, some real mental illness shit. You do you, but the roi at that point is awful.

This you?

I dont even wanna respond to All this rubish you disgusting grey but you polute the forum with your low iq so i have too.
Again I am not talking about 30cm on one bone in one setting.
However if you legnthen your femur by lets say 7cm. You will lengthen for about 3 months, maybe 2.5. Then you consolidate. If you do certain supplements, use exogen and a HBOT you can fully consolidate in 1 month and walk unassisted by month 4.
If you are a subhuman this will extend to month 6.
If you are in a wheelchair during LL you have choosen a 1. Bad surgeon, 2. You are a fat fuck or 3. Your bone canal is as big as that of a child.
If you are lean you can easily use a walker + crutches.
I for myself never really used the wheelchair much besides going to the surgeon for check ups.
At home i uses crutches or a walker in my bath.
The p 2.2 can withstand using a crutch or walkers easily.
With Pmax you can even walk unassisted so no wheelchair for your ass.
So for lengthening 30cm you would need to do that 3 times.
You lengthen your femurs by 6cm and tibias by 4cm.
Rebreak and retract for the other 2 times.
Would take about 4 months each to heal.
Total of about 12 months.
Sure 12 months without walking in 3 years is not easy but then again you get 30cm.

The 30cm were an extreme example something your tiny brain cant comprehend since you still dont even know what nerves are.
I think you shouldnt do LL as you dont even understand the concept.
Realistically with a 7cm increase if you use pmax in either tibia or femur you wont really see any structural damage or at worst minor.

Can you be a pro athleat after lengtening 20cm in 2x 6cm femur, 4cm tibia? No.
Do you need that in your life?
No.
You will be fine and do Running, jogging, contact sports, climbing at a decent level.

As for the motor function loss this can only happen if your surgeon cuts your nerves.
I have never ever heard of someone getting paralised during lengthening phase.
Also this can be AVOIDED by staying at below 1.5mm a day femur or 1mm tibia (idealy 1mm femur, 0.75mm tibia).